You're so suspicious with this, I just want you to know that. You arguing for this is sus as fuck

I've been scrolling through the whole thread trying to figure it out.

They’re not arguing for anything, just describing the reality. Most people figure out the difference between description and endorsement by middle school.

"you know who needs defense here? The devil." White men continue to bring us nothing!!!

How are you going to be on a text-based social media site and still be functionally illiterate?

It’s not a literacy issue…

Ah, there it is.

*Guy says something is bad and unethical, but not illegal* You: WhY ArE YoU ArgUiNg FoR ThIs?!?

Blue sky is blue skying hard on this fine Thursday morning.

And what is there to be “sus” about? It’s like an implication that I hooked them up or something.

It's not even the reality except maybe at startups where there are no rules except the ones the CEO makes up. At my workplace, a manager lost his job for this. Admittedly he was a dick and we were all happy to see him go.

There’s literally nothing preventing it outside of internal policies, which is why shit like can happen - the main “enforcers” (outside of the board who typically wouldn’t give a shit) are the ones involved. Some middle manager isn’t comparable to the c-suite.

Bingo. But this is Blue Sky, where nuance goes to die. We don’t know what the company’s policies are. We don’t know if there is a reporting requirement, and if so, we don’t know if it was reported. It’s always more important to be self-righteous and angry here than it is to use reason.

Who on earth is being angry about it on here? I maybe would've been if I worked for this guy's company, because it's about to go through things. But don't, so I don't care.

The nut calling OP the devil for explaining that there are no external laws preventing this kind of thing? Like 3 or 4 posts above yours in this particular thread?

lol what? I’m not arguing for it. I’m just saying it’s not illegal. Shitty and unethical, yes. Illegal, no.

Is there someone here arguing that it's illegal?

lmao “ethically wrong but isn’t against the law” is such a wild take like dude your system of rules is governed by the rules of people who selfishly preserve their best interests rather than doing what is right for humanity as a whole omg

A business can 100% tell you that you can't date another employee while working for them and if you do, you will be terminated.

Ethically, genocide is bad, yes. But that doesn't mean you "can't" have the ethnic cleansing. That is how dumb you sound.

I’d imagine most countries have laws against murder, kidnapping, etc…

I mean it's a very apparent conflict of interest, something most companies would terminate for if found out.

You can have the relationship, you cannot keep your job tho. In this level of management, this is a known rule. It can lead to lawsuits and internal issues for the company. These relationships are not allowed for a reason. So you can't be a cheif officer of any form and date the HR.

You can drive a car with your feet, but that doesn't mean it's a great idea. Chris Rock

Chris Rock obviously has never driven a car lol.

Men making any excuse to get laid ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hilarious you guys will justify just about everything when you’re thinking with your dick…..

You "can" but there are consequences.

Did I say there aren’t?

Sometimes on this app, people really do not understand nuance. It’s black and white, all the way down for them.

Trained in my current fiancée when I was a manager at a call center. We flirted immediately. She asked me out shortly after. Told her I wanted to date her and couldn't because I was her manager. Asked her out 3 months later so I wouldn't be alone for Christmas. Told management later, they shrugged.

You actually can't. Imagine being a worker trying to get fair treatment at a company where the CEO is boinking the CHRO. You have nowhere to turn. Any complaint you have will be used against you. Same reason you cannot do it w your subordinate, bc of the power differential.

This is generally true regardless of if they're boinking or not though.

I worked at a small local company (30ish employees) where the head of HR was the owner/CEO’s wife. It was such a terrible dynamic.

Hate to break it to you but HR isn’t there to help you.

It is there to help me in the sense that it doesn't want any trouble for the company. So the company cannot be blatantly breaking employment laws, including in ways that screw me over. E.g, if I come to them saying that my manager is forcing me to come to their house after work to

mop their floors and do their laundry, HR cannot just say "that's your boss. What they say go. Mop harder" because if they do, I might go somewhere else that may not end up being a good thing for the company.