Why on earth would we want to keep AUKUS?? The further we can get away from the US - which is clearly a failed state - the better. Extraordinary that this isn't part of the commentary #auspol
Why on earth would we want to keep AUKUS?? The further we can get away from the US - which is clearly a failed state - the better. Extraordinary that this isn't part of the commentary #auspol
But, but Richard says everything's OK. 🤦♀️
The worst possible person to have as defence minister in this scenario is Richard Marles. I imagine he's got the AUKUS defibrillator out to try and keep this dog of a thing alive
I’m sure not 1 submarine will ever be delivered. Trump knows this and will just keep asking for money and our government will just say “ Oh ok mate” Please accept the next payment?
Hang in there friends, there are more of us than there are of them. But more of us need to realize it.
So surprise surprise a review of AUKUS is underway by the lunatic in the WH. The capacity of the US Navy to deliver was always a major problem. Perhaps the newest recipient of the OAM could provide some clarity on contract cancellation clause by either party. #AUKUS #auspol
Australia should be spending the aukus money on new drone and dual purpose communications systems
Because if you don't - they'll topple the government and put someone else in charge.
Could it possibly be the case that we are waiting for the US and UK to negate AUKUS for their own reasons, thus providing face saving for our own govt and making a moral argument for the return of the squillion $ deposits already paid. Playing Devils Advocate here👿.
In that event, don't expect to get back one cent.
I wouldn't but it will justify enough righteous outrage for Albanese to utilise in place of courage.
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I find it extraordinary that both the UK and the US have announced inquiries into #AUKUS and their ability to deliver it and the impact on their capability. Yet Australia, the only nation that is paying doesn’t have an inquiry into this undeliverable, woefully governed expensive program. #auspol
The DoD procurement projects seem to have no accountability for poor/bad decision making costing $$$s with AUKUS being the biggest & worst. Marles needs to stop sucking up the US military-industrial complex & put Australia at the top of his list. An independent audit is needed. #AUKUS #auspol
It needs to go for the Audit office and the #NACC for investigation. How is Chris Pyne making money from this project. How did Katheryn Campbell get a $900k Job. How are Morrison, Hockey all grifting. Mike Pezzullo … #auspol #AUKUS
I remember the ALP fan club assuring us Albo was playing 3D chess with Katheryn Campbell’s appointment
The NACC? (cough) 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣
Et Al.
Yup … 🤢🤢
Marles needs to be removed from the Ministry and relocated to the back bench. We need people with intelligence, integrity and courage. #auspol
Unfortunately Marles' only skill is sucking up the US military-industrial complex. And no-one in the Albanese Government has the morals or the backbone to stop him. Still - the orange buffoon may cancel #AUKUS! 🙂
We are meant tp be building a new sub base. It's not going to start for 10 years. We are spending on US shipyards for a project that looks like it's not going to happen. Time to stop and buy some subs from Japan.
Exactly or France
It was only ever an announcement, nothing more.
If you make an issue you'd have to tell everyone it was a BIG mistake.
Because Albo is spineless. #DitchAUKUS
Be interesting to know the terms of the contract then.
We just all see it. The lack of transparency is disgraceful. The lack of governance is disgraceful. The program is undeliverable and any Project Manager with their salt would have ceased wasting money 3 years ago. Where is the oversight … #NACC #auspol #WTFAlbo
Still don't understand why Labor did not at the very least express reservations when they inherited this terrible deal. Likelihood of it all going tits up was always on the cards.
They are weak.
Imagine if someone with coding skills were to create an anonymous way to upload documents in the public interest? They could give it a catchy title like Wikileaks, and then their life could be destroyed. Oh.
This exactly! I reckon the idiots somehow contractually locked us in.
Worse than that Australia is angrily rejecting any commentary that we should even consider reviewing it. You should have heard the SA Premier on radio this morning going off at the mere suggestion it should be reviewed.
We paid $500m in January It’s like paying a mortgage on a point piper mansion, but the bank decides if you get a shotgun shack, or maybe nothing at the end
It was $500mUSD/ $800mAUD. We could do any of these. • 2,000 social housing units @ $400,000 each • 400-bed hospital (build + equip) @ $2 million/bed • Annual rent for 20,000 families @ $40,000/year • Employ 10,000 nurses or teachers @ $80,000 salary All = $800 million #auspol #AUKUS
AUKUS will fork us! (spoken with an accent)
No-one in govt wants to alert Trump that we hate AUKUS and want him to dump it. If he knows that he'll never do it.
Trump the extortionist will demand more $$ and promise nothing.
Why? Because if the Asia-Pacific shipping routes end up controlled by the China axis, we'll die.
We should ban politicians from working for weapon companies when they retire from politics.
Don’t worry, they don’t want us either so…yay? bsky.app/profile/nick...
Hope so.
Unfortunately there's very little detail. Are we contractually bound in some way at the mercy of US and UK? How much would it cost us to exit? What idiot signed off on it? How much will it REALLY cost? I have a feeling way more than the 368 billion. French sub fuck up on steroids.
True. The cruel, vindictive, jealous Anti-NATO/Anti-Western Alliance TACO, his Unqualified Moron SECDEF and his Traitor Pretend-Christian Daily Bible Verse Rubio would double-cross you guys and all the allies in a heartbeat. You should run as far away from this Dangerous Regime as possible.
This is why....... www.imdb.com/title/tt3163...
Literally *anything* happens... LNP: we demand the PM *explain everything* Is basically a broken record in a suit
So your question really is: - Why is AUKUS a fundamental part of the defence policy platform of the ALP? And thus the government. - Why is the ALP continuing to build defense ties to the US? - What is the timeline to change the ALP’s policy or otherwise vote them out of government?
Well, I suppose we could go for a Sweedish model. To gain that level of independence would be a significant uplift in funding, though. I mean, they're going from 2.5 to 3.5 of gdp. Plus, we're very inefficient in producing anything here. So I can't see the govt stepping away from Aukus.
Don't worry. FOTUS has never kept an agreement in his life.
ABC reported AUKUS = Aus to provide bases for US subs and includes Aus being with US in any Taiwan 'defending' activity. ie, AUKUS makes Aus a vassal under the command of USA. Albo has recently sounded independent. Is this why a 'review' suddenly?
To clarify above post. The "ie" is my interpretation/perception, not the ABC journalist's. 🙂
Agree
I couldn't agree more. This is from a guy who, 40 years ago, was working on the control system for the US designed cryptographic communications equipment that was used on Australia's DISCON.
Let’s not forget the $835 million dollars we spent compensating France. That, with the $800 million we’ve paid the US… all that money with nothing to show for it apart from battered allegiances.
Plus bailing out UK's submarine building operation, with nothing to show for it so far. That little deal cost us $4.6 billion.
I wonder if the oligarchs will be there??
Like l said do a deal with Canada. 🫖☕️ Shared values; democracy, Commonwealth and tea.
Do they speak English in Australia??? I'm looking for a place to move. 😆😆😆👍
Trump has made it clear "America First" Australia is throwing money away. Kill AUKUS!
What a waste of taxpayer money and the failure of previous governments to keep updating.
Just said much the same. I’ve always referred to AUKUS as AWKWARDUS. We cannot rely on America. Regional ties should be strengthened.
What's the French word for schadenfreude?
This is a perfect opportunity for Albanese to announce our own review to determine whether AUKUS remains in the national interest.
#ditchaukus
Right? 🤞 the US pulls out of it. Best case scenario.
No way this happens. We send billions for no guaranteed return. This is like saying we hope our gas customers give up their contracts for free gas. Where is the incentive for them? Even tromp is smart enough to keep this one. More likely he'll add a 10 to 100% tariff. And we pay.
I doubt we pay if he increases the price. That’ll be enough for them to pull out (especially since they don’t want it anyway)
CANZUK is where it's at. We'll be your friend.
Morrison left AUKUS as an albatross around Australia’s neck. Albanese embraced it (and paid) to improve his election prospects. Neither of our political duopoly work for the people of Australia.
The US is reviewing AUKUS to see (me borrowing Albo’s mantra) if it meets the US’s National Interest. If the US doesn’t cancel it, it confirms we are paying for nuclear powered submarines that will only be deployed and operated when and where America say so, with some American crew on always board.
Will AUKUS require the ADF to purge women and people of colour from senior positions, like führer Trump has done?
Completely agree. Scumo tied us to this mess. Now Albo has to grow some balls & tear up the agreement. There’s so many things we need to spend money on. Submarines aren’t one of them.
AUKUS is now mentioned as a raison d'être for Morrison receiving the greatest honour the crown and Australia can bestow on a person, bit late to label him a self serving, defence wedging, moral vacuum now, isn't it?
I thought it was for his “Covid leadership!” Whatever. He didn’t deserve a gong for anything he did. He was the worst PM we ever had. By far.
Premiers should have got it for covid leadership. The toll it had on them. No surprise, they are all no longer leaders.
Totally agree .. the deal itself is a joke ... and for anyone to argue that we should keep the US as a "friend" is clearly not reading the tea leaves .. the sooner the US is sent to the rubbish bin of Australian history the better
The American Empire is collapsing! We should NOT be giving them tens of billions of $A for submarines that MIGHT arrive by 2040; maybe by 2045 🙄 #ditchaukus
we won't see any submarines ... questionable resource anyway ... but as the $UD crumbles then tumbles, we'll be sending an increasingly respected $AU by the truckload to the clapped out US ..
We are watching the end of Democracy on our screens & it’s so disturbing. If a military parade for a birthday doesn’t confirm it I don’t know what will
Think of the good we could do with all that money....schools, roads, hospital, medicare.....free beer for all. FUCK ARK ARSE (and tRump)
Media reporting on it is confusing. They're painting it being cancelled as the worst thing ever but all of the evidence shows that we were never going to receive the subs. The US building program is running years behind and won't meet their replacement schedule in any foreseeable timeframe.
A strong government and leadership would have seen us out by now
Exactly my thought.
Should never have cancelled the French option. Australia will not receive a single Virginia Class submarine.
Funny that here in Canada, there was concern that we were being left out - in reality looks like we dodged a bullet!
and if we abandon ANKUS......what other security agreement do we have....? who else can we call on in the Pacific for military assistance.....?
Could any journalist reading this ask the political leaders : what would Trump have to do before You would say “enough is enough we are pulling out of this alliance because it is morally unethical and does not serve our interests?” Will it have to be invasion, the death camps ? Hangings?
We need to be running from the US and aligning closer with the EU, Canada, South Korea and Japan
I think AUCAN sounds way better anyway - #australia #canada
I think if Australia gets out of AUKUS it will send a clear message to the US that they are on the wrong track. We could actually help them wake up to the mess they are creating.
Trump wouldn't care. America First!
Trump will become irrelevant.
Not anytime soon, unfortunately.