I think it's a tell of how difficult it is to integrate these foreign ideas about nationality into the American context that he still finds himself referring to the settlers as having a cause.
I think it's a tell of how difficult it is to integrate these foreign ideas about nationality into the American context that he still finds himself referring to the settlers as having a cause.
The settlers had a cause of being left in peace and leaving others in peace. We've gotten better at it as the decades have gone by until now.
Arguably the single biggest obstacle to the American herrenvolkists is the fact that every single American read the Gettysburg Address and Declaration of Independence when they were in school
I think you're overestimating the amount of Americans who could accurately summarize those documents unfortunately
For how much longer?
American public schools for the win! 🇺🇸🧑🏫👍
yeah 'proposition' in here feels specifically drawn from gettysburg and nation as 'homeland for themselves + their descendants' uncomfortably close to duke's 14 words
Believing in the ideology of this guy (or JD Vance) basically requires believing that Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson were wrong, and I think they are significantly underestimating how difficult it will be to get Americans to think that!
I want to believe this.
“The philosophy of the Declaration of Independence is at war with government and subordination, and the worst enemy with which the people of America are afflicted.” -George Fitzhugh
Not to mention just how outnumbered they are. Like I don’t want to be too rosy about racial integration but it’s just impossible for me to spend time in booming New South suburbs and think that all these Black, Asian, MENA, and Latino families are going away.
One reason I really appreciate @ad-mastro.bsky.social’s work is that he chronicles this suburban transformation — which has been ongoing for decades — but it just makes the white national conservative impulse to somehow destroy this look even more impotent.
I think you’re on to something. After reading it the first thing I did was reread the gettysburg address to remind myself that, yes, indeed, “our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.”
There was a movement for a bit to encourage kids to memorize the address in schools. I wonder if it still exists. It is more or less a perfect encapsulation of american civic piety.
It is still done in our public school. My eldest learned it during Trump 1..0. The first time I heard my son recite it flawlessly from memory, with great feeling, I was unexpectedly overcome with emotion. Tearing up just thinking about it. My youngest will get his turn this year.
I wish I believed that. But there is a sizable chunk of the population willing to throw away any & all public/political/historical figures for the sake of Trump & of white nationalism. They will divorce themselves from family & friends, for heaven's sake, so why would they spare anyone else?
A lot of non-Hispanic, non-immigrant whites believe that. But they are a hardly a majority, and even among them, maybe half (generous) believe something along those lines. So maybe between 25-33% of all Americans believe that, at best. Certainly enough to cause problems, but not overwhelming.
I get the political value of referring to these ideas as foreign, but it does bug me that this essentially brackets out the Chinese Exclusion Act &c as somehow an aberration
I think they're quite literally foreign, these Twittervolk guys are all reading Schmitt and Enoch Powell
Obviously there is an American nativist tradition (which includes Trump himself) but I think it's distinct from what the Claremont freaks are pushing.
I mean I don't think relying on foreign citations to provide an intellectual gloss to native politics is that new, but now I think we're splitting hairs
Well the central European bent is why they're all really hostile to democracy *even for the supposed ethnic group they're trying to protect*
The Western US was built by Chinese people who were largely then pushed out by the populace