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Michel Chartrand @michelchartrand.bsky.social

It's also about pay rate. Same issue in Canada. You'll get anybody to do anything if you pay enough, but if all you're willing to pay is exploitively low wages you'll really only get the exploitable applying.

aug 14, 2025, 11:00 pm • 70 5

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Eat the Rich 🏴‍☠️🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇨🇦 @sburr741600.bsky.social

That’s a great and fair point. I completely agree. But I’ve been on the hiring side of jobs paying $70-$100K and people balking at the basic work being asked of them. But you make a valid point.

aug 14, 2025, 11:02 pm • 32 0 • view
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Crafty Cat Nerd @helenrbwriter.bsky.social

These days, 70k isn't much if you've got kids, and car, and student loans.

aug 15, 2025, 4:09 am • 2 0 • view
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standswithhope.bsky.social @standswithhope.bsky.social

Of all three, it's the student loans that will never, ever diminish it's hold over your life or freedom! I have already paid off my home, but my student loan remains, even while paying extra every month. Because of punitive interest rates, my balance is now larger than when I took it out.

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aug 15, 2025, 4:21 pm • 0 0 • view
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Vivalavoices @vivalavoices.bsky.social

Give me all that and the 70k and I can live happy. Try all that at $27,000/ year; most people are and not making it.

aug 16, 2025, 1:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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Crafty Cat Nerd @helenrbwriter.bsky.social

I hear you. I am in the same boat, but housing can be so expensive. I don't know how much taxes would be deducted, but at 70k, you maybe have $5000 a month and in many cities, more than half of that is rent. Don't resent the guy who is only a bit better off than you. Hate the super rich.

aug 17, 2025, 3:22 am • 3 1 • view
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Vivalavoices @vivalavoices.bsky.social

I don't hate the guy a bit better off than me, because that guy is in debt at higher level is all. It is the greedy rich I do not like because they never did anything to deserve their super riches.

aug 17, 2025, 8:42 pm • 0 0 • view
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Chainmailed Heart @chainmailedheart.bsky.social

If I was physically able to do the job, I'd want to learn to repair wind turbines. Good pay and I believe in renewable energy. I just know my body, and it would break down. I come home from my current job in pain every time.

aug 15, 2025, 2:23 am • 13 0 • view
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Susan Campbell @susbaby223.bsky.social

Exactly — fair pay is the foundation of attracting and keeping good people. When wages are too low, you’re not valuing the work, and you end up creating a system that only benefits from those who have no other choice. follow me back so we can keep this conversation up

aug 15, 2025, 12:52 pm • 0 0 • view
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hubie5511.bsky.social @hubie5511.bsky.social

Nope. This also happened in Georgia in the 90’s and it didn’t matter what the wage was, US workers either would not or could not harvest peaches. Some farmers about lost it all with fruit rotting in the orchard.

aug 15, 2025, 12:12 am • 1 0 • view
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Michel Chartrand @michelchartrand.bsky.social

I always wonder what happens with migrants when they become citizens, which makes them no longer want to do that work? Does becoming "an American" suddenly make them lazy or incapable? Or is it something else?

aug 15, 2025, 12:25 am • 2 0 • view
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hubie5511.bsky.social @hubie5511.bsky.social

Nope, around it in Texas. 1st generation works hard jobs for life hoping to educate kids into easier life. A lot don’t escape it for generations. Small town beef plants pay better than the rest of employers. They have hope for their kids, though

aug 15, 2025, 12:29 am • 2 0 • view
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Michel Chartrand @michelchartrand.bsky.social

I mean, if it's something one hopes to 'escape' can you really blame anybody for not wanting to do it?

aug 15, 2025, 12:46 am • 2 1 • view
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Chainmailed Heart @chainmailedheart.bsky.social

Citizenship means they can get better paying jobs that don't break their bodies down to the point of being disabled by the time they're 60. Most hard physical labor gets you injured regularly. Construction workers are way more likely to get hooked on opiates b/c of job injuries.

aug 15, 2025, 2:26 am • 2 0 • view
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Fabulous Abomination @fababomination.bsky.social

EXACTLY!

aug 15, 2025, 2:50 am • 1 0 • view
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Metsgirl84 @metsgirl84.bsky.social

Maybe, there were growers in CA offering up to $25/hour plus health benefits. They still couldn’t get anyone but migrant workers to show up.

aug 15, 2025, 12:11 am • 1 0 • view
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Michel Chartrand @michelchartrand.bsky.social

Maybe $25 was just still too low for that region for that kind of work.

aug 15, 2025, 12:22 am • 2 0 • view
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SuperMarina @supermarina.bsky.social

$25 an hour is too low anywhere in CA. For any kind of work, unless it is something you can do while also doing another $25 an hour job. There are a few places in CA where $50 an hour is sufficient to survive.

aug 15, 2025, 3:30 pm • 1 0 • view