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Marxist-Glonzoist @primaryschool.bsky.social

every single one of them was a fun, happy, energetic drunk, it was kind of impressive

aug 31, 2025, 2:44 pm • 10 0

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andrewtheblueskier @andrewtheblueskier.bsky.social

As a fellow Slav (and a teetotaller personally) you should get used to this with us

aug 31, 2025, 2:50 pm • 7 0 • view
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Marxist-Glonzoist @primaryschool.bsky.social

it's far superior to Irish drinking habits I gotta say

aug 31, 2025, 2:53 pm • 7 0 • view
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𐃆 פינחס יוסף מונד @pymundgenealogy.com

I'm very Used to It as a matter of historical memory... It's a touchy subject, you see. We are blamed for it, and it's not entirely baseless...

aug 31, 2025, 2:52 pm • 5 0 • view
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𐃆 פינחס יוסף מונד @pymundgenealogy.com

It's been like 140 years since we last plied you with government-mandated booze, though, I think at this point we can conclude that you like the stuff :)

aug 31, 2025, 2:53 pm • 6 0 • view
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Callalily @callalily57.bsky.social

My family had that history, and also a really absurd number of their descendants became booze distributors and speakeasy owners in Prohibition-era New Jersey.

aug 31, 2025, 9:06 pm • 3 0 • view
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Callalily @callalily57.bsky.social

Like, I was looking at some court records for one of them a few days ago, and noticed a familiar name on the next page -- someone else related to me, very distantly related to the first guy, also being charged with illegal distribution of alcohol.

aug 31, 2025, 9:07 pm • 4 0 • view
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𐃆 פינחס יוסף מונד @pymundgenealogy.com

Look up "propination" if you have no idea what I'm talking about

aug 31, 2025, 2:53 pm • 6 0 • view
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Marxist-Glonzoist @primaryschool.bsky.social

learned something new today!

aug 31, 2025, 2:55 pm • 4 0 • view
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andrewtheblueskier @andrewtheblueskier.bsky.social

Me too. Thank you pymund

aug 31, 2025, 2:57 pm • 4 0 • view
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𐃆 פינחס יוסף מונד @pymundgenealogy.com

You're welcome:) (The propination and related arendator system are practically the stock of both Jewish folklore and all of Jewish records from Eastern Europe - so while only a few nerds know the terms, the vague situation is as familiar to your typical Hasidic kid as Cinderella is in the West)

aug 31, 2025, 3:00 pm • 6 1 • view
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𐃆 פינחס יוסף מונד @pymundgenealogy.com

Everyone's great-n-grandpa was an ‘arender’ whom the local ‘puritz’ (szlachta landowner) threw into his dungeon for falling behind in rent payments... and the math says that these stories are an *underestimate* of how many arendators there were

aug 31, 2025, 3:04 pm • 4 0 • view
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𐃆 פינחס יוסף מונד @pymundgenealogy.com

I was actually surprised, when I started getting into the documents for my professional reasons, how authentic this part of the storytelling was - I always thought the tavern-keeping village Jew was a Hasidic folktale trope exaggerating a relatively rare profession.

aug 31, 2025, 3:09 pm • 6 0 • view
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𐃆 פינחס יוסף מונד @pymundgenealogy.com

But no. In the territory of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, even a century after it was dissolved, the ratio of taverns to people was about 1:~200 (give or take a factor of 2) and the tavern-keepers were disproportionately Jewish - for centuries

aug 31, 2025, 3:09 pm • 8 0 • view