The Daily Mail is discovering what 14 years of Tory government did to the NHS. Better late then never, I suppose...
The Daily Mail is discovering what 14 years of Tory government did to the NHS. Better late then never, I suppose...
I never give The Daily White Male any promotion.
Whaaat??? Harley street was closed???😱😱😱
Yes all of a sudden they're very concerned....funny that
This disaffection with the Tories just means the Mail is swinging behind Reform who aren’t to blame for any of the 14 years of mismanagement
Except for the minor matter of who's in charge of Reform: bsky.app/profile/call...
Indeed Farage is in it up to his neck but not as a member of government
Just did/does the rabble rousing.
And denies it so he can hardly use it for political advantage as in claiming credit
Next they’ll be discovering that Brexit was a bad thing.
It’s not just the horrific reality of A&E ‘virtual wards’ in corridors but the fact that everyone feels the safety net that we’ve always relied upon at the most difficult times in our lives has been ripped apart.
broken clock you know
They did their part in it too
Interesting Labour has been in charge of the NHS in Wales so WNHS must being doing a stellar job
With funding from Westminster
Been asleep all that time I guess
On the ground the chaos is shocking
It'll still blame Labour.
No idea what article you're talking about but I would bet that they don't come to the right conclusion, do they?
Don’t worry, they’ll forget again tomorrow
It's ultimately a good thing that the Daily Mail is reporting this. The problem is that they should've been doing this years ago. Scrutiny is a good thing and will hopefully result in government action. If the Tories were scrutinised in this way, they would've been far better.
Finally. But we really must push back against Streeting and Reeves are now now. The #NHS does not suck money out if the economy, it breathes life into it. Spend on the NHS multiplies by a factor of 4. Even the FT say so. bsky.app/profile/nyeb...
Freeing up space to start championing Reform 😡😡
Unfortunately the owners won't give a monkeys. So they will probably spin it as a good thing to readers.
They'll probably blame Starmer for it and ask why he hasn't fixed it in 5 months.
Labour have done nothing but kill old people! 😝
‘Breaking News’ suspended Labour MP pleads guilty to beating up a member of the public. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025...
"Let me be clear, Mr JOB is a top radio show presenter. Tory & Dale r Tory cult members. Global is also pro Tory # Sangita M fired because Israel spokesperson was challenged on live radio. Presenters ordered not to discuss or they follow her. LBC also headlines Tory stories on the website.
Or to be more precise, what it did to the older population who bought the newspaper and are now fodder for the grim reaper!
The Mail has form for this. The arsonist returning to the scene of the crime to screech that it was an 'accident' waiting to happen. And their gullible readers fall for it, Every. Single. Time.
They will find a way to blame Labour.
Interestingly that’s not fully Nicks take.
Unlikely but right whingers are going to have to develop patience. They’ve a 4 year wait no matter how much they stamp their feet.
I'm shook
As did the Express…who’d a thought it
Yet, here in Scotland, we’re led to believe the SNP are the sole reason the NHS is a mess 🤔
Please stop saying "tickling the toes of..." It makes a bit of sick come up.
Trying desperately to claw back readers 😫. Don't believe a word that is printed by them without questioning it. Right wing press desperately trying to stay relevant, but their time is over. By the time they print it, the world's moved on. #TaxBillionaires #SaveOurNHS #DailyFail #NeverBuyTheScum
They can’t print it unless they can blame labour tho
Are they?. How nice for them.
Ah yes, but it’s only reporting it now to try and smear the current government
Exactly
Sorry Labour have confirmed they will use the PFI on the NHS. This means parcelling it off to Private Enterprise. But smear or no smear we must stop Streeting from doing it.
That 350million a week would be a great help
You just said "Farage greased Johnson's passage", I've been sick.
That's one for the annals
Just make sure the annal is properly greased first.
Tbh, in Johnsons case.... A mustard covered hessian sack would be appropriate
D'ya think Starmer will be jealous, being so friendly with Farage these days? Perhaps not as the three of them appear to be such good bedfellows.
But I expect they'll blame the state of NHS on Labour.
Sorry, James. You mean "14 years of tory government, and the Mail's willing collusion in its policies,"
DM were part of the Cons breakdown of NHS, there was no campaign to stop it, so is not better. The damage has been done and hundred thousands of people have died and dying!
Timing is everything. It'll all be Wes Streetings' fault.
If I remember correctly, Wes Streeting pledged to have the NHS fixed within 33 minutes and 15.2 seconds of being Health Minister if Labour was elected. So, what happened to that pledge? It’s been 6 and a 1/2 months. 😠
Everyone who voted for the conservatives shouldn’t be allowed to criticise the NHS because they knew the Tories would do this to it, and still they voted for them. They should be ashamed and have a cheek to criticise what they created. The blame lies squarely on Tory voters shoulders.
Anyone that has had to use the Spanish NHS do realise how bad our own system is. Ask any ex pat and they will tell you that our NHS is appalling in comparison.
you know i still have acquaintances, who i used to regard as friends, who are all over 70, and believe what they read in the Mail and are adamant that this Labour govt is making us a laughing stock around the world. They seem to have forgotten the last 14 years🤦🏻
This may sound awful, but I can no longer speak to a friend of over twenty years they have moved so hard, right. They believe everything from the Daily Fail, but what breaks my heart the most is they struggle with their Trans Gender identity. So they still live as a male in public at work and things
Then, only go to known safe places as the Female Gender they really are. It drives me crazy that they can support people who hate them so much to the point that they are still afraid to be who they truly are. Btw it's not the only reason.
That is really sad
It is very sad, and I wish I didn't have to walk away over politics. I don't care if you vote differently to me, and I don't care if you want to debate it with me. There is a point though. When you're shocking me with racist language, and you're down the Covid rabbit hole. I can't do it.
No. Too exhausting
It was too toxic. I have, no doubt in my mind they will have voted for Reform last time.
When it affects your own mental health then it’s time to call it a day on those who have gone down the rabbit hole, and i am nearly there.
That’s the point i am reaching and don’t know how much longer i can go listening to their drivel.
My OH's Dad died in the Covid Care Home Scandal. I don't like calling it a scandal because people died. It was when they said, “But you can't blame Boris they were going to die anyway.” I just said, “Stop talking.” You know what I will do.
I'm over 70 and I cannot believe that people I have known all of my life buy the Mail or the Sun and spout the crap they read in these fascist rags. The baby boomer generation were totally spoilt.
Exactly how i feel👍
Yet the Mail writes articles about how to keep your hard earned money from Reeves’s grasp.
Is there a sickness problem at the Daily Fail for them to discover what we all knew the NHS is broken and they covered it up.
Aren't they blaming it on 6 months of a Labour government?
....it is beyond unbelievable
Surely the biggest fall in standards has come over the last 6 months? All was so good before. This would be what the mail would like to say.
And the Royal Family secretly making Profits by taxing NHS #Dispatch
Time for the monarchy to bail out the NHS.
Only in 🇬🇧. I guess, it’s because there are too many patriotic people in our political system and country!
They blame the 6 months that labour has been in power. They kept quiet for 14 years.
A quick question: Do the panel think that taking away winter fuel payments has anything to do with the state of A&E. And can the panel find some way to blame the Tories for that?
As they shift their allegiance to Farage?
Is it somehow still Labour’s fault?
Ah, but you'll find Labour had 14 years in opposition and did absolutely nothing about it!!! 14 years in opposition and didn't come to power with a plan to fix in within months. What did they do with their time? Says Bigotted Brexit Bob of the Boris Brothren.
Boris had an 80 seat majority not much they could do
You forgot the"only" Boris "only" had an 80 seat majority... They were utterly powerless.
Or Vanessa Felpz....
I love the new Tory approach.”You knew we were utter crap yet you just sat there ….”
And Labour Cancelled the 40 New Hospitals that would have sorted this mess out. Shouts Transphobic Tammy from the Truss Trust.
We can't afford the NHS, we should go to a private health care system with everyone taking "personal responsibility" for their own medical insurance. Shouts the Frogfaced Fascist Fauxrage - whilst dodging any kind of personal responsibility for his #FarageRiots or #FailedBrexit...
Works very fine in France & Netherlands
The NHS used to work very well in the UK during the Blair Brown years when it was properly funded. We now spend less per capita on health than France and it shows. Many studies have proved the UK model itself is not at fault, just needs more funding and to sort out huge problems in the care sector.
The NHS bureaucracy / office which no other country has is very very expensive. That money should go to nurses, docters, hospitals
And your experience of the NHS management structure is what exactly?
Enough to judge.
So likely you haven't got any then? Surely you need to be able show how you've formed this opinion. Evidence and Explanation please. Because I know several people who work within and along side the NHS who would scoff at your evaluation.
I am only referring to the NHS head office. Not the people working hard in clinics and surgeries
Until recently a senior medical scientist. Worked closely w WHO and health authorities in several countries. Arrogant English never wanted to learn from others. I know several doctors who left UK to avoid the mountain of paperwork asked by NHS middle management. You don’t heal patients w paperwork
And it’s a bloody ruinous nightmare in the USA!!!
Yes and Streeting will parcel off the NHS to PE & it will be finished. You do know Labour Tory and Reform all plan to move to another (not free) model for our health services? All at various times have had donations from foreign health corporations. Streeting is going to start via the PFI.
Not my first rodeo… nhs for over 35 years, mate I’ve seen all the bluster, the consultations, the plans, we just keep hanging on!
I so hope the NHS does hang on. My life was saved last year not for the first time by open heart surgery. I could not afford private health insurance or the operation which cost nearly £200000. Who could?
Private insurance in Holland and France is around € 150 a month. No questions asked.
Not true.
Sad thing is UK still first looks at US for ideas, solutions. And refuses to look at European countries for ideas I needed a consultant Waiting time in UK was 12 months. In France 6 weeks. Costs of consult € 28,00. French national health paid 20, private insurance remaining 8. Compare that w US
My sister lives in Iran. Their medical bills are very small compared to European let alone American. Ironically many Dr's from that country now work here in the NHS. We can't give in. We must campaign to save the NHS and it's public funding.
I’m sure you follow Good Doctor on here. If not, do!
Not heard of "Good Doctor". There's guys called "The Good Doctor" and other variations but not aware of anyone called "Good Doctor" here. Strangly none of them post about this subject. Tell me about why you follow Good Doctor. Are they on BSky or on TV or have a column somewhere?
As I am discovering, the system In France is absolutely great provided you are loaded. Seriously make me wonder what you get for your taxes in France.
You are wrong on all accounts. I get roads without potholes for the taxes I pay and basic medical care for free. I pay €120/month for extra care AND dental work without waiting lists. I get a median pension. Miles away from loaded. Get yourself better informed by not only reading English newspapers
Far from it - French wife about to get almost bankrupted by the French system having to pay for care for her frail mother.
Worked very fine in the UK until 2010.
OK OK. Only believe words and views from within the British islands. Don’t ever look outside your Times/BBC bubble.
I had enough with the Brexit establishment and the millionaire Elites like Farage and the rest of the Putinites. I would like to go back to the 2010 NHS, before the Tories and the Brexit elite destroyed our health service.
I can see why some would prefer to see an insurance based system for funding healthcare. In a tax based system, the wealthy pay more. In an insurance based system, those at most risk pay more. Wealthy people are typically more healthy people.
Its illegal in Europe ( but standard in US) that a risk increases the insurance costs. Previous health issues are not allowed to influence acceptance or pricing.
Even if previous health issues, or predicted health issues, or postcode, or... are not allowed to impact insurance prices, if there's an excess, those with health issues will pay more. If everyone pays the same insurance rate, with no co-pay/excess charges, then it's still the wealthy that benefit.
I admit that €120 per month is a seizable burden if your income is 2000 a month than for someone coming home with 20.000 a month. But everyone in European countries can afford to pay it. Social contributions for health are - like tax- % increasing w revenue
If insurance prices increase with salary, then why not simplify everything, cut out the middle man (the insurance company, whether it's profit based, or non-profit) & fund the health system through general taxation?
Bespoke options preferred by population. I might not want dental or ivf covered. Non smoking discounts.
Brilliant, but that's not the version Tories/Fauxrage want to bring is it? Let's look at how the American System works... Profit First.
Correct; Both.
Got nothing done? Apart from the Lords Reform, £22bn for the NHS, ended strikes, renter reform, zero hours, Schools bill, Employability Rights Bill, non-Doms loopholes, devolved regions, assisted dying bill, free breakfast clubs, green energy launch, resetting EU relation, defence spending up....
Ferrari too. Well said
There's been a change in the type of beds available, with fewer overnight beds & more for day cases. Between 1987/88 & 2023/24 overnight beds decreased by 56% whilst day-only beds increased by 531% as medical innovations led to an increase in same-day procedures www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-...
Like robbing a bank then walking back in and complaining there's no money.
Never stop letting them know the part they played They are responsible and we should never forget that
No it isn’t. It’s trying to blame labour again.
14yrs of Tory policy breaking the NHS A question I have about this particular winter issue is whether the anti vax lobby have persuaded people not to have the flu & covid boosters this winter?
They seem to behind most of the time…
Plastered all over ITV and local news. Plastered all over Good Morning Britain. yet, they don't put the blame on anything.... why? Who is to blame? Who was in power for 14 years? Who under funded the NHS then gave out millions of PPE contracts and included THAT money within the NHS budget line?
Better late then never? Really?
Some of us just lived it for that time, fighting in a system that was slowly and inexorably failing us and those we were trying to care for.
Are they, though? Or have they waited what they feel is long enough to just pin it on Labour?
Seems like your LBC presenter NF is also very much in the Daily Fail camp. What has Labour done to fix this crisis he shouts. It’s pathetic to listen to but I doubt if you’ll ever challenge him.
I can't listen to P£!ck Ferrari anymore! Following the Mail's headlines is pretty lazy journalism too.