What does it matter if someone wants to order take out, have dinner delivered, grocery shop & cook at home, or grow an enormous garden and eat all plants? To each their own! What I eat, and whether I cook or not, isn’t causing harm to anyone else. Shame away!
actually every single meal you eat requiring someone to bring it to you in their car is pretty damn negative for society/the world at large. that does not fucking scale.
Well we destroyed the community, multi-generational homes and made everyone work 60+ hours to survive and you expect everyone to cook for themselves all the time? "Takeout" also doesn't mean uber eats or even delivery. American Leftists need to cut it with the purity tests.
everybody doesn't have to work 60+ hours to survive, among many other things. Very few people work anywhere close to that much.
About 18% of Americans work 60+ hours according to Gallup. That number is way too high. Here in Aus it's even higher, but mostly because our housing crisis is even worse than the US. With median house prices recently crossing 900k and bugger all availability.
the % of self-reported 60 hour work weeks is substantially greater among salaried employees, who tend to be *higher* earners. Still not a good or healthy thing (especially when coerced by employers) but a far cry from putting in hours to survive
Yeah and that's probably true in the US. In Aus we have high minimum wages, but due to decades of conservative governments and contracting economic diversity, professional salaries in Aus are abysmal. I worked 80hr weeks in a job that paid 85k p/a because there were no other positions available.
hey dildo if you get in your car to go pick it up, it's the same fucking thing
Or, you know, you're driving home from work and pick it up on the way home. It's fucking telling that you assumed a working class person was at home ordering food. Enjoy the concentration camp you end up in I guess? I'm sure you'll reflect on this as time well spent.
Really loving the juxtaposition of saying that if you tell me not to involve a car in every meal you’re doing a purity test and their bio saying we’re all dead from climate change in 25 years
If they actually read IPCC 6 they'd know The Cool Zone is in the 2038-2045 ballpark 🙄
My door dashers are always on “bikes” (uninsured Nissan Altima)
We need to Keep It in the Ground but also gas should be cheap enough to make burrito taxi super cheap
nihilism is the 21st century's actual greatest challenge and it's upstream of everything else
i dont even expect people to cook for themselves! there's nothing wrong with like jar sauce and pasta, or even a $15 ready made lasagna from the grocery store, but that's not what any of these people are justifying!
Cook here, and I still think people who make pasta with jar sauce count as cooking. Not disagreeing with the rest.
How I got started in college! Pasta and jar sauce, pre-cooked sausage, pre-grated cheese. Plus simple salads and sandwiches. Gradually branched out or got more complex. (Make my own sauce! cook raw sausage! grate my own cheese!)
This is the exact answer. 💯 agree.
So dogshit food with no nutritional value? Got it, no wonder Americans can't string a coherent thought together.
What do you think the nutritional value of most takeout is
Well I'm Australian and when I eat takeout it's usually Pho and rice paper rolls, or good Banh Mi. In fact most of our takeout is good, cheap asian cuisine, Middle-Eastern cuisine and so on.
You know thats not what most people's takeout is
Those are the most popular venues in my working class town. By a mile.
So, you're saying that just because it's an Australia it's better, so Australia is some magical world where the exact same fucking food is suddenly more nutritious?
Higher quality ingredients, less processing, less hormones in meat. Government programs supporting migrants moving to regional areas rather than being concentrated in cities. "Australian" food is mostly established by waves of migration from the Mediterranean, Asia and the Middle East. Come visit
Australian restaurants aren't exactly aiming for health food there, why are you being so profoundly weird, go make a friend
he can't make friends, he has them delivered
What are you talking about? We have some of the best in the world?
I have been to Australia multiple times and can testify that that claim is absolute nonsense.
I live here dipshit. Typical American main character.
An immediate problem with climate change is that it’s too hot outside for weirdos to go touch grass
Everyone in America consumes an unsustainable amount of resources
Actually eh?
Every time you eat it's a negative for society. Yeah, guess what, living involves consuming resources. Crazy.
I'm rewatching The Good Place and am nearing the end after they've discovered that modern life is too complicated for the point system, as every choice has a ton of side consequences and that seems relevant here.
Did I say I had every meal delivered? You’re shaming me without even knowing if I eat out, pick up carry out or cook at home.
i'm not shaming you i'm pointing out that your logic is dumb as shit and many of those options are in fact harmful to society at large if people do them at scale. it's not just about you.
Wow, seriously? How does grocery shopping and cooking at home, growing a large garden and eating plant based or picking up carry out on the way home from work harm anyone else? Should we just not eat then? And you are shaming without knowing a thing about what I eat or if I cook.
xie specially called out "requiring someone to bring it to you in their car"
You never know someone’s reason for ordering a meal to be delivered. Not everyone does it daily or to purposely harm the environment. The person could be recovering from a surgery, going through cancer treatments, exhausted after a long work day and have kids to feed. Have some grace.
Those are special cases. Not everyone doing it all the time, "at scale", which is what xie was calling out.