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Joe @boaj.bsky.social

The US and UK didn't break anything in the Budapest memo and I'd advise people to read it. Their obligation was not to invade or coerce Ukraine and if someone else invaded they had a duty to raise it in the UN. Only Russia broke the Budapest memo. It was a bad deal from day 1.

aug 19, 2025, 6:34 pm • 2 0

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Neuro 🇺🇦 🇸🇪 @neuromancer1.bsky.social

Well, the US and UK have supported Ukraine extensively but have obviously refrained from direct military intervention which some argue was in the spirit of the memorandum. The memorandum’s purpose was to provide Ukraine with real security though it did not explicitly guarantee military defense.

aug 19, 2025, 6:56 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joe @boaj.bsky.social

It definitely wasn't the spirit of the memorandum mate. It's really short and quite clear in its language.

aug 19, 2025, 6:59 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joe @boaj.bsky.social

It was a different time, the cold war had just ended. Ukraine got away from Russian captivity. It was a noble goal to disarm and even the US and USSR had serious talks before the dissolution of the latter.

aug 19, 2025, 7:00 pm • 0 0 • view
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Neuro 🇺🇦 🇸🇪 @neuromancer1.bsky.social

True, the text is clear, but Ukraine gave up the world’s 3rd largest nuclear arsenal for credible security guarantees. Even if direct military defense wasn’t explicitly guaranteed the whole purpose was to make Ukraine feel genuinely protected.

aug 19, 2025, 7:12 pm • 1 0 • view
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In his underwear @waif.bsky.social

Didn't break anything? What that "minerals deal" is if not economic coersion?

aug 19, 2025, 7:53 pm • 1 0 • view
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Joe @boaj.bsky.social

PDF available here: treaties.un.org/Pages/showDe...

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aug 19, 2025, 6:37 pm • 2 0 • view
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Albert Hubble @alberthubble.bsky.social

Which means, unless you write down that the guarantors by "law" should use military force to stop the invader, all those papers are meaningless. And they are also meaningless until Europe is willing to use actual force to stop to war now. Because Russia is not interested as of now.

aug 19, 2025, 7:17 pm • 2 0 • view
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Joe @boaj.bsky.social

I agree mate. If it was up to me, we would've joined the war already.

aug 19, 2025, 7:19 pm • 1 0 • view