And straight trans women do seem to lean toward the “faggy + conventional femininity” parts, e.g. more interest in drag, makeup lines, art and culture associated with straight women, less high-achieving in academia or tech.
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In my case it has always been:
aug 25, 2025, 1:08 pm • 2 0 • view
Also in I was really athletic but also loved Jane Austen and girly fantasy novels 🤷♀️ ALSO this was a highschool crush of mine:
aug 25, 2025, 1:14 pm • 3 0 • view
But even setting aside exceptions to that pattern, the standout thing about the typology is the way it’s offered as the only viable explanation for these differences. As if any observable distinctions between trans women based on sexuality MUST be proof of the typology exactly as written.
aug 25, 2025, 12:26 pm • 115 8 • view
This flows into my personal take, which is that the typology is based on patterns we can actually observe about sexual cohorts of trans women, and uses that basis to appeal to casual intuition as an obvious explanation.
aug 25, 2025, 12:30 pm • 101 4 • view
yeah. there's a pattern there, but it doesn't match onto the typology cleanly, nor does the typology explanation itself hold water.
aug 25, 2025, 12:32 pm • 1 0 • view
Good example being that age of transition was once considered a key marker of the AGP/HSTS difference, but once sapphic trans women began transitioning much younger, became no longer considered a useful distinction.
aug 25, 2025, 12:31 pm • 112 6 • view
Doctors refuse to help sapphic trans women transition and then claim later transition is a characteristic of Sapphic trans women, it's unhinged
aug 25, 2025, 12:35 pm • 19 1 • view
This is a great example of what I mean. You have people who clocked that a lot of trans women like anime, and a lot of them are sapphic, so a causal link enters the typological milieu. bsky.app/profile/acva...
aug 25, 2025, 12:34 pm • 164 31 • view
I also continue to feel that the HSTS type has more simple basis in truth to it, in that there IS a continuum between feminine gay boys and transhet girls, and we do tend to have similar childhoods and other overlapping qualities. Some people fall right in the middle (think of many drag queens).
aug 25, 2025, 12:40 pm • 84 5 • view
But IMO one reason there have been argued to be so many “AGP subtypes” is that the whole concept of a type here doesn’t really make sense if you don’t expand it to be very large and diverse.
aug 25, 2025, 12:41 pm • 85 6 • view
Could we say that AGP a "all size fits all" term for people who don't fit into the stereotypical view people have of trans women being just a variation of feminine gay men, hence disregarding them as not "actual" trans women?
aug 25, 2025, 2:14 pm • 10 0 • view
For instance, it does seem to be true that on average, sapphic trans women are more likely to have erotic crossdressing experiences, and more interest in thematically similar things like forced feminization stories.
aug 25, 2025, 12:42 pm • 72 2 • view
I don't know that I agree. I know of a lot of accounts of erotic crossdressing among 'gay men' who'd later transition, and the quantity of things like forcefem porn that is straight far dwarfs any lesbian content of that nature
aug 25, 2025, 1:47 pm • 6 0 • view
I think, if this tendency exist, it's more likely sth that manifests due to trans lesbians being more likely to stay in the closet longer--therefore, the only available means of expressing gender becomes sublimation
aug 25, 2025, 1:47 pm • 4 0 • view
Exceptions like these have been brought up, but the argument usually rests on clinical data showing higher rate of erotic cross-dressing among LB transfems. However, as I get to downthread, the idea that AGP is the only explanation for that is part of the sabotage. Erotization is super common
aug 25, 2025, 1:59 pm • 4 0 • view
But not only is there a ton of variation there, it’s more complex to make the same kind of “transhet/fem gay” link between girls like that and straight male crossdressers, because those aren’t “communities” and the latter tends to be defined by secrecy.
aug 25, 2025, 12:47 pm • 69 5 • view
But see the result: they end up arguing that a straight man who dresses as a woman in secret and holds onto male identity elsewhere, and a young trans lesbian who openly embraces social feminization in plain sight with no interest in male identity, have *the same gender psychology.*
aug 25, 2025, 12:50 pm • 87 8 • view
You see how the typological conclusion “leads” all understanding of behavioral differences between trans women, as almost a forgone conclusion if we’re to pay attention to those differences at all?
aug 25, 2025, 12:52 pm • 67 5 • view
And then, of course, there are bi trans women like me, who can use some magic from each school, as well as wear light armor and wield swords. (Plus we get the best hats)
aug 25, 2025, 12:27 pm • 16 1 • view
Ahh the best of both worlds
aug 25, 2025, 9:51 pm • 1 0 • view
aug 25, 2025, 9:53 pm • 2 0 • view
Bi women don’t fit well into Blanchard’s model, and he basically waves the bisexuality away, saying that it’s basically AGP because these trans women aren’t really attracted to men but to the thought of being a woman that sex with men offers them.
aug 25, 2025, 12:34 pm • 11 0 • view
Yeah, male or female, bi people tend not to fit into people's taxonomies 🤣
aug 25, 2025, 12:39 pm • 4 0 • view
(Trans lesbians mistakenly thinking they’re attracted to men because cis male attraction is seen as validation of womanhood is a thing that happens, but that’s called comphet, not being ‘pseudobisexual’, and it doesn’t mean that bi trans women don’t exist)
aug 25, 2025, 12:40 pm • 9 0 • view
This is so funny to me because im basically both (very high femme and very into conventional femininity/beauty/etc, but also a tech nerd who recently made good money in tech who likes nerd culture and plays a lot of games)
aug 25, 2025, 3:53 pm • 2 0 • view