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James @jamesawr.bsky.social

Reform / Con will happen. The only way to beat this is Lab / Lib / Green. Will Starmer go for it? I doubt it. I would love to see a Lib / Green opportunity.

apr 9, 2025, 9:41 am • 14 0

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CV5480 @cv5480.bsky.social

In which case, Labour could settle the issue with a simple referendum which asks whether people "wish to rejoin the EU, rejoin on a simply economic basis, or continue outside the EU." It would be a far more informed choice now than it was 10 years ago.

apr 9, 2025, 3:36 pm • 5 2 • view
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James @jamesawr.bsky.social

The point is that Labour won’t settle the issue.

apr 9, 2025, 3:49 pm • 2 0 • view
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CV5480 @cv5480.bsky.social

Exactly. But this would be way out for them. At no point since 2016 has there been a debate on this issue where voters have had all the facts. Even last year, the two parties which could win a Parliamentary majority refused to discuss it.

apr 9, 2025, 4:08 pm • 3 0 • view
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Saddletramp🇪🇺 @saddletramp.bsky.social

Good point

apr 9, 2025, 5:20 pm • 1 0 • view
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Boiled Like Frogs @leedsjohnlufc.bsky.social

They have got to be forced by the people!

apr 9, 2025, 5:54 pm • 0 0 • view
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James @jamesawr.bsky.social

Most Labour MP’s want to rejoin. It’s Stammer. The best way to force this is not vote for them. But there is risk in this alone.

apr 9, 2025, 5:56 pm • 1 0 • view
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CV5480 @cv5480.bsky.social

The risk is huge. Not voting Labour would, almost certainly, bring in a right-wing party. And that would make the situation worst. The only other option is putting pressure on Labour backbenchers to change party policy.

apr 9, 2025, 6:23 pm • 1 0 • view
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James @jamesawr.bsky.social

That is a good point. However. Labour won’t win this time. They will need a coalition. So in many ways it’s a vote to ensure a voice about the EU. And if a vote for Labour is a vote for Stammers red lines, there’s no vote from me. Reform and Con are no match to Lab / Lib / Green…..

apr 9, 2025, 6:30 pm • 1 0 • view
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Julie @everyonesmum.bsky.social

This is how the left shoot themselves in the foot in a fptp system. There is no room for compromise - we have to choose just one viable alternative for left voters and stick to it

apr 10, 2025, 7:18 am • 0 0 • view