Not sending them money for the iron dome would not cause that and if anyone retaliates due to the aggression THEY started that’s on them. Why does she care more about the genocidal nation than their victims? That’s why it’s gaslighting.
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She clearly explains her reasoning, that cutting defensive aid to Israel does nothing to curtail sending them offensive weaponry that is actually being used to bomb Palestinians, and only makes Israel less defended against rocket ttacks from Hamas and other proxies, which DO happen.
jul 22, 2025, 2:55 am • 9 0 • view
Newsflash: SUPPORTING ISRAEL IS NOT A PROGRESSIVE VALUE. I DO NOT WANT MY TAX DOLLARS TO CONTINUE TO KILL BABIES. SHE VOTED TO CONTINUE THAT. POINT. BLANK. SHE. IS. A. TURNCOAT.
jul 22, 2025, 2:59 am • 1 0 • view
Damn yeah it’s really fair we pour millions into defending Israel while they’re committing genocide and we don’t give the same defensive capabilities to the folks they’re commiting genocide against.
jul 22, 2025, 2:58 am • 0 0 • view
I'm not even saying I agree or support it. But she's pushing heavily for cutting sending BOMBS to Israel while not supporting cutting SHIELDS to Israel. Yes, Israel is led by genocidal authoritarians right now. Yes, the whole situation is fucked. Could we probably wash our hands of the whole?
jul 22, 2025, 2:55 am • 7 0 • view
You cannot say you’re against their genocide and for the victims while finding the very reason they’re able to commit their genocide without retaliation or impact. Point blank. Suggesting otherwise is gaslighting.
jul 22, 2025, 3:04 am • 2 0 • view
'israel is aggressively expansionist and committing war crimes in their effort to conquer territory' and 'israel is surrounded and beset on all sides by ideological enemies who would exterminate their cultural group if given the opportunity ' are NOT actually exclusive statements. Both are true.
jul 22, 2025, 3:12 am • 1 0 • view
Newsflash: defunding our aid to the iron dome doesn’t mean it won’t exist. It means there would be less money to bomb babies. AOC knows this. I have to think you know this. Why are we giving 500k tot he aggressors and not to the victims of genocide? You fucking know why.
jul 22, 2025, 3:16 am • 0 0 • view
Who gives a fuck if they have “ideological enemies” while they commit genocide? You’re a real piece of work.
jul 22, 2025, 3:15 am • 0 0 • view
Israel has no right to exist in the first place and is on stolen land.
jul 22, 2025, 3:15 am • 2 0 • view
Ahhh, see, now we're to the crux of it. You DISAGREE with AOC fundamentally, that Israel has a right to national existence. THAT DOESNT MEAN SHE'S GASLIGHTING YOU I do not have an opinion about Israel's hypothetical national identity. I would certainly not be egomaniacal enough to
jul 22, 2025, 3:24 am • 1 0 • view
think I can equitably solve the famously simple claims of territory ownership and religious claim to the Middle East. Israel's current actions are of course indefensible. But Israel's existence as a historical territory and refuge from antisemitism is, arguably, necessary.
jul 22, 2025, 3:24 am • 1 0 • view
Again, I'm not saying I'm right, I'm not even saying you're wrong! I'm saying that this is a conversation that can be had in good faith, with full awareness of the stakes, without propaganda And that it would be hideously naive to think that plenty of Palestinians wouldn't want to exterminate th
jul 22, 2025, 3:24 am • 1 0 • view
Holy fuck and why do you think they might dislike Israeli’s? IM A JEW. I’ve seen PLENTY of Palestinians who can differentiate genocidal, Zionist freaks from non Zionist Jews.
jul 22, 2025, 3:26 am • 2 0 • view
I like how you responded to this thread halfway through instead of the whole thing
jul 22, 2025, 3:29 am • 0 0 • view
Jews even if they were peacefully remaining in their own borders and threatening no one
jul 22, 2025, 3:24 am • 1 0 • view
I think she's been very consistent. 2023: thehill.com/homenews/hou... I know nuance doesn't play well with leftists though, it's either got to be 100% agreement or GTFO.
jul 22, 2025, 3:10 am • 0 0 • view
HR 888, H.R. 5323 (which she apologized for, apparently that was a long and H.Amdt. 55 to H.R. 4016 all directly constraint the Palestinian cause and their freedom.
jul 22, 2025, 3:14 am • 0 0 • view
That's certainly an opinion. I'm not even going to say you're wrong. However I don't think it's manipulating available facts or bait and switching to say that affirming Israel's right to exist and also opposing its imperialist tendencies are mutually exclusive views.
jul 22, 2025, 3:16 am • 0 0 • view
Israel is a genocidal aggressor ethnostate and will always kill to defend its existence. If you affirm Israel’s right to an exist during an active genocide, as AOC did, then you affirm its right to commit genocide.
jul 22, 2025, 3:19 am • 0 0 • view
Israel should be wiped off the map! Nuclear weapons!
jul 22, 2025, 3:22 am • 0 0 • view
It’s a fact, not an opinion, that her actions on those three go against the Palestinian cause and their best interests on the path to freedom.
jul 22, 2025, 3:17 am • 0 0 • view
Israel only needs shields due to their own aggression. They caused right is with the Nakba and all of the bloodshed they’ve caused since. We are DONE. DUDE the is money they get for defense the mess they have for offense use your brain
jul 22, 2025, 2:56 am • 1 0 • view
Yeah. But that's not where she's at, she acknowledges that's her reasoning, and voted as best she could, while obviously making a difficult choice. As it turns out geopolitics is not an easy or simple game.
jul 22, 2025, 2:55 am • 5 0 • view
Dawg. She explicitly acknowledges that line of reasoning and disagrees. That's not gaslighting, that's disagreement. You can think she's wrong, in fact, she invites you to, and also calls attention to her record supporting Palestine to suggest she has an educated and experienced opinion.
jul 22, 2025, 2:47 am • 3 0 • view
More gaslighting. She voted yes on hr 888, present on H.R. 5323 and nay on H.Amdt. 55. That “line of reasoning” isn’t a disagreement it IS gaslighting because she acts like she supports Palestinians while voting against their interest. No. Absolutely not.
jul 22, 2025, 2:54 am • 0 0 • view