So what? I didn't say not Jews. Of course there are Jews in the IDF? What is your point here?
So what? I didn't say not Jews. Of course there are Jews in the IDF? What is your point here?
You didn't. The band did. They don't want anybody to die. Including Jews. And then they go on chanting Death to IDF. That's self-delusion. They don't want Jews to die. Unless they're fighting for their country. Considering it's mandatory service for all citizens, I guess they're all fair game, huh?
If only we had some way to pass on important information that can't be summed up to a catchy phrase. It's really too bad we're stuck with chanting. I guess world peace will have to wait until someone figures it out. Might take a while though. We'd need another Einstein for this one.
It's called political protest and it's absolutely legitimate to chant slogans as part of that and it's been done for a very long time? Nothing has been done to reign Israel in so yes people will do what they can to be heard and good on them for using their voice.
Go people! Let your voices be heard! And now that everybody's listening - what do you have to say? - Kill Israelis who are fighting for their country. Kill those genocidal dogs. Spill their blood so they fill the streets. I took some creative liberty.
I don't even mind them chanting it. Good for them. But if you claim it's ok - you don't get to be upset when some Israeli extremist nutjob politician calls for the death of Palestinians. You lose that right. Plain and simple.
It's not anti-Semitism that bothers me. It's not hate speech. It's that none of you are honest. If claiming the sky was green would somehow help Palestinians - you'd be arguing it with a straight face. As if me saying it's blue is absurd. I'd show you physics textbooks, and you'd say I'm biased.
No idea what you're talking about now. I think you've also just circled round to the point people are trying to make - Israel has no right to be outraged about people wishing death on their army because of the indiscriminate killing they have carried out. They lost any moral highground decades ago.
And regarding Israel's rights - you're completely missing my point. I don't care if Israel is outraged or not. That's political theater. It's not about their rights. It's about you claiming you're supporting all of this because of some sense of morality. Virtue. Right and wrong.
Yes I think it's absolutely immoral how Israel has behaved over decades and yes I think they need to be stopped? Not sure what's hard to understand about that
And that's great. I support your right to promote that opinion. I'm saying that maybe you've decided that the ends justify the means. They behaved so bad over the decades, that you don't have to stop and think if something done to them is ok or not. Even things you normally wouldn't support.
And Israelis aren't fighting for their country, theyre fighting to take someone's else's. Apartheid and violent land grabs weren't enough.
"No idea what you're talking about now" What specifically? And if Israelis aren't fighting for their country, who is fighting those that launched rockets at cities on a daily basis? Who's intercepting those rockets? Was Oct. 7th in Gaza? Did Israelis go wondering into Gaza?