It doesn't matter if the Epstein files are released and a sitting President is in them. We all already know what kind of man he is and it doesn't seem to make a bit of difference.
It doesn't matter if the Epstein files are released and a sitting President is in them. We all already know what kind of man he is and it doesn't seem to make a bit of difference.
It does matter. Everyone in the Epstein files need to be exposed and prosecuted if possible. The victims deserve no less.
But it should!!
MAGA is afraid that if the actual videos of trump raping children come out, they can’t pretend anymore and will have to come out too as pedophile supporters.
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It proves trump to BE the Deep state and all his lies!
#ReleaseEpsteinTrumpFiles
I feel so bad for the victims seeking acknowledgement of their injury, but this struggle is useless. We know he is a pedophile rapist, and it doesn’t matter. Nothing will come of this. He is rotting before our eyes, and he stinks.
Of course Trump is in the Epstein files. Indeed it matters not to the party of pervs. Dare I say that MAGAs essentially embrace pedophilia to cover for Trump's lewd behavior?
You're right but the women (girls at the time) want justice.
Exactly
It makes a difference to his victims.
34 felony convictions and he was still re-elected. WTF, America. 😣
It matters to me. It, more than likely, matters to the survivors, as well.
Ultimately, it's more concerning his administration knows the truth and is actively hiding that from the public. Most are parents. How can they sleep at night knowing their boss is a pdf and are willing to look the other way? For personal gain, favouritism? It's mad.
I agree..he continued his pervert behavior long after EPSTEIN was offed...
Correct. He confessed to grabbing pussies AND was found guilty of manipulating his company finances. Let's elect him President so the poor guy doesn't have to steal any more. He can just steal money and be free from prosecution. (Great Fucking Idea)
We need to believe the women victims.
E. Jean Carroll, Jessica Leeds, Kristin Anderson, Jill Harth, Cathy Heller, Temple Taggart McDowell, Karena Virginia, Bridget Sullivan, Tasha Dixon, Mindy McGillivray, Rachel Crooks, Natasha Stoynoff, Jennifer Murphy, Jessica Drake, Ninni Laaksonen, Summer Zervos, Cassandra Searles, Amy Dorris.
It matters to the victims, however. They want the files released, and, after all they've suffered, they deserve to know what the files contain. Respecting the victims matters, even if it doesn't change the minds of Trump voters.
People love him, rightly so, because he understands what it’s like to be a middle American, and they know he’s there for them. Sure, he’s made some mistakes. Who hasn’t? Same as Farage, who, god willing, be the next UK Prime Minister.
I didn’t know Farage was a pedophile too, but I’m not surprised.
lol.
We did the Epstein thing in 2016 already. Nobody cares. They are not going to care this time either.
Couldn't agree more...
He's not a man. He's just an ugly dude who's at war with everyone on American soil whenever he gets his little feefees hurt.
I think it's just the hypocrisy that upsets people. If his supporters just admit that they would stand by and cheer while he raped their 9-year-old daughter, we can all move on without needing the proof by releasing the Epstein files.
He is doing the things they're dreaming of.
Pedocon is a theory in the same way gravity is a theory.
Oh yeah he is a great man. If by man we only use it to describe his size. Great man bag of flesh and guts. But that's about it for greatness.
. If the Epstein files are in the hands of the Trump administration (which they are), you will NEVER find anything in there on Trump!!!!! I guarantee all information on Trump has been expunged! Do you really think the Trump administration would release documents to damage Dictator Trump?!?
Tell that to the victims
perhaps not to YOU. many of us object.
I don't agree with this at all. Whoever participated in these crimes needs to be exposed and held accountable.
And they still voted for him.
True, but the one thing his base seem to be intolerant of is sex with minors/paedophilia and Trump himself rode that conspiracy theory to his own advantage. If he's then implicated in that I do think his base will turn on him. But, they've ignored or defended everything he's done so far.
They were only intolerant of it when they thought Democrats were the ones doing it. Now that is a MAGA thing, pedophilia is OK.
Will they? I think they’ll justify it somehow and continue to worship him.
His base claim to be all about family values but don’t give a hoot about his rapey talk (Grab em by…etc) or his multiple affairs. His base are full of shit. They will make up some excuse for him if it came out that Trump raped minors.
Oh, that’s not true at all. A quick google search will show you so many MAGA right wing hate cultists arrested for pedophilia and child porn. They love to accuse others of pedophilia but all evidence shows it thrives in right wing circles. Don’t mistake their words for their actions.
Except they didn't care at all that Trump barged into teen girl locker rooms while they were changing, something he openly says he had a right to do because he had power. They pretend to care about children, but it's all pretend so they can shed crocodile tears and feel like a victim
As long as they can rationalize, "it's locker room talk," "it's political, " "these girls made accusations for money," "it was on fake news, so I dont have to believe it," etc., they will. But any really damning evidence that he did underage girls could sink him. Merely being Epstein-adjacent
... isn't enough. He could be a close friend, even party with him, and still not proof he shared all of E's proclivities, tho it heightens suspicion that he turned a blind eye. But if any tapes or videos surface, or trips spec. to E's island, coupled with any victim statements, he could go down.
Yeah, MAGA's interest in the Epstein files was to expose & punish guys like Bill Clinton & George Soros. Now that Dear Leader is implicated, they'll move onto some other outrage.
And voters widely saw him in photos with Epstein and a majority still elected him last November. 20 years ago, even that little evidence would’ve destroyed a politicians reputation
100%. Trump hasn't exactly been hiding the fact he's a disgusting monster. The gop willfully put a blindfold on and knowingly ignore it
I don’t think that his supporters will hear or acknowledge this. He will say it’s a democrat hoax or fake news. They will be happy to continue their defense of him. If they don’t, their whole existence comes into the light and that’s too painful for them.
This is an indictment of mankind itself. We have the supposed leader of the free world who rapes children and rather than be punished for it he is rewarded to lead the world. No intelligent people can defend the existence of such people. While we say we object time goes by and nothing is done.
The rest of us are like the seniors with nerf noodles hitting a balloon back and forth across a net while Trump is firing tear gas at us. We are ill-equipped with legal resources to ward off Trump's criminal conduct. Who understood this best is dead. Timothy McVeigh. Who got us here = Garland.
It's the ex Democrat president they're worried about along with a few others.
Except that it might change a few MAGA minds.
Curious that
While he can ride that storm, that's only going to be possible if the team around him let it happen. Which they won't. Give it 18 months and we will see President JD Vance. This has been the plan of those behind Project 2025 all along.
I wish it did!
Sadly true.
And we know he is in the Epstein files, and knew what Epstein was doing & participated in raping girls.
They will remove Trump's name from the files and create their own "Epstein list" made up of prominent enemies of the Republican party and the Heritage Foundation. Those political opponents will be arrested under the guise of "protecting the children" and Trump and maga will celebrate victory.
I don’t care that he’s in them. I want to know who else they’re protecting.
We knew he was a child rapist when those of us that live in NY saw him with Epstein at every restaurants and lounge together...When reports started to leak in the late 2000's that Epstein ran the largest child trafficking organization in the country, trump was with him always..they never broke off
their relationship, until Epstein paid the childs mother who had sued both of them, and after their mediation, where Epstein paid the mother, two weeks before the pedo ran the first time.
That is why we need an investigation on Epsteins bank accounts! Ppl don't walk around with Millions in cash when the settlement was made through mediation!
its turned into the next batch of #hopium at this point. "bait" that the people who gave us garland will suddenly decide to chase pedophiles if we just vote blue for the next useless biden one more time... lets give walz/aoc a try and watch the fkn world change for the better.
Sadly.
This is different, & he knows it.
We don’t really need the epstein files. We don’t need to convict trump umpteen times. Many women have already credibly spoken out. One won a civil judgment. Believe the women and follow the evidence. Sworn testimony is evidence.
Yes, but release the Epstein Files anyway.
His MAGAt Cult of domestic terrorist traitors don't give a shit if he's a child rapist.
It’s far bigger than Trump it’s about the victims and the ppl that used them and raped them.
It matters because it’s wealthy, powerful, men are involved in a PEDOPHILE RING! Ask yourself - who did Epstein deliver these young girls to? One was Prince Albert and that was proven. The Queen stripped him of all things Royal before she died.
WE KNOW, We know because he's carrying on like a LUNATIC, WE know b/c the victims WILL relate publicly We know what and who he is.
Yes, but it would be better to have the proof out there amongst the MAGAts.
It does matter. Even if Republicans know and are complicit in covering it up. We need to care about the law and what’s right. But actually loads of his biggest supporters are finally waking up to the truth. Apparently pedophile is one line too far to cross.
Yes, the president is a huge POS. Yes, he is possibly the worst American who has ever existed. But the importance of the contents of the Epstein files is so that all who participated in these atrocities are held accountable. Regardless of who they are, or what they're worth.
Yes. At this point, anyone who still supports Don the Con is hopeless and worthless.
The time that public opinion mattered is over. Trump will not leave office under any circumstances, and will use deadly force against anyone who attempts it.
'Been true for 10 years now. The US has dropped all pretense of decency. Commenter below thinks the Right may draw a line at pedophilia. I think they only draw that line for Dems. Pedo is okay if it's done by a Repug. 10 years now (likely more) ...
I do believe it would be celebrated by some.
I don’t know … it seems to me a million people marching on the White House and Capitol, each with a sign saying HE FUCKED KIDS, might be hard for them to ignore …
For the victims, it DOES make a difference. Disagree.
Well maybe it might make a difference with the ones who refuse to see it!
A greater truth has never been spoken!
this gets my vote for smartest remark on Bluesky today. Also most gut-wrenching
You'd be surprised, the Republican base doesn't know, truly, Fox and NewsMax never tell them. There is a strange unique power to Epstein, Trump's people fed and set this up and it cannot be stopped. Trump has no enemy here, no one to pounce on. Whatever happens, the base is sold out. Good.
Agree. His base has had access to all the evidence we have seen; the testimonies of his victims, the conviction in court, the endless photographic and video evidence. They don't care. One more body of evidence is not going to make a difference.
I disagree. Epstein is pulling Trump down and he will not finish out his term.
Yes!!!!! 34 felonies and J 6th, sex scandals galore, the man is a immoral and corrupt little failure!
Absolutely right.
It makes a difference to me. I’m outraged and seemingly helpless.
Who is "we"?
Have you seen him lately?. He looks like the dogshit he is.
Correct. If you're not in a deplorable, deranged death cult. Or have been in a coma for the last decade.
Thats wat im sayin
It’s not for us. It is for MAGA since they want its release
Exactly. It's like he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any votes................. SCOTUS 6 is aiding and abetting.
☠️he's Hardly a 'man' 👹🤮
Yes, but it apparently means something significant to his MAGA faithful.
It is working. He is losing his shit because the Epstein files/ victims testimonies will tell a much bigger picture of sex trafficking. Start 1987. Russia. $$$$
THIS
It's pushing his approval down, and the Republicans as well, with unaffiliated voters. That matters for the midterms.
Are we sure that it’s Epstein that is pushing his approval down and not the myriad other abominations surrounding him?
IF there’s a midterm
A sad statement that there are that many cultists blindly following their leader
Exactly. Also Ivana was pushed down the stairs & died the day before she was to give a deposition in Trump’s case. And Epstein was murdered.
What does matter is Maxwell given preferential treatment though she is a vile individual who not only should pay for her crimes but is seemingly unrepentant.
they really gave the game away with the Access Hollywood tape. After that dropped and he didn't lose any support basically nothing would shake his base.
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Wrong!!! Most independents do not follow politics. They can be turned by clear evidence, and they decide elections. And this behavior is easy to understand.
He’s planning to become a above the law dictator as we speak Then nothing will matter As you said it hardly matters now Yes the victims matter we know trump prince Andrew Epstein MBS,Clinton wouldn’t be surprise are on the child rapist list who else this is abt tearing down the powerful
Trumptards are still stubbornly in denial. They think he was sent by God himself to rescue this country from the evil liberal Democrats hell bent on destroying it. No joke. Some really think that. It's exhausting 😩
Donnie, Jeff, and Roger Stone in a golden shower together is like a "Last Supper" painting for MAGA. They love pervs, deviants, and pedophiles in the GOP.
True, but the Epstein files still need to be released for the MAGA cult to see the fraud they are worshipping.
Everyone empowering Trump because he is Trump, needs to realize that consolidating the power of the office of President through loopholes in the law is going to give the NEXT one ALL of those abilities. You may love Trump, will you be just as in love with who is up next?
When he told us he could kill someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and get away with it, we should have believed him.
He’s no man. He’s a subhuman, vile beast. The victims and their voices are what matters. #VictimsVoicesAreVital #magaprotectspedophiles
The only difference is that it seems MAGA was clued in to Epstein. Fox, Rogan et al covered it constantly, but thought the list would be all Dems. Some stories about Trump they STILL haven’t heard about, but that one was drilled into them.
Had to come back to this just because I was reminded about the existence of Jim Jordan. The fact that he's still in office and getting reelected really proves that there isn't a sincere drive in the regressive party to pursue sex crimes. Gaetz is another good example.
They would simply switch targets from one Clinton to the other, and "but her emails" would become "but his visits" and they would fixate upon that, just as they gave a pass to classified info being passed even more insecurely a few months ago (remember that?).
His base would offer him their own daughters
Cult worship has historically included human sacrifice.
...and it will not be a silver bullet either in removing the orange, as long as his friends are there. It takes a lot more than these files, for 🍊 lovers to wake up.
Nope. Can’t be prosecuted per Robert’s court… I’m wondering when the “I could shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away with it” gets tested. Probably coming soon…
What it proves is that all the so-called "Christians" are in bed with a pedophile President! Enjoy!!!!
Call me an optimist but I think all of the centrist Republicans and the Independents who voted for him this time will be ready to kick him to the curb and his little minions in Congress too. Die hard MAGAs may hang on because to turn against him would mean they had been conned for over 10 years
I agree. He’s a pice of shit anyway. It will all catchup to him sooner than later.
He is a bankrupt, a felon multiple times over, and abuser of women, a rapist, a liar, a vindictive man child who has a pathological need to win and if he doesn’t will claim the game was rigged or fraudulent. They know who he is, they always have. They don’t care.
America has a sickness, growing for decades, Christian fundamentalism which has no link in its deeds to actual Christianity. Toxic masculinity, the need to win at all costs. No empathy and self awareness. This cancer is spreading across the world as tin pot dictators see him get away with it.
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You do have a point.
They don’t care
We don't bother calling them the Epstein files in our house anymore, we call them the TRUMP FILES.
"Sad but Truuuuue"-bitchass Lars & Co
He certainly was all over them, but he won't be now. You don't need 1000 agents to sift his name out once or twice.
It matters, because I think the rapists of the young girls, must be named, tried and convicted....not one of them has faced ACCOUNTABILITY and they MUST
Yes but you need to maintain pressure on the pile of 💩in charge and keep demanding RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES. UNREDACTED, IN FULL. NOW! Drip drip drip will move mountains if the pressure and flow is maintained.
The Trump List has been out for years! Believe the women.
The sad truth
You have to understand conservative self-identified "christians." The single most abused and perverted passage in the Bible is: "Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake." - Matt 5:11 The narcissist's get out of hell free card.
To the christian conservative narcissist, EVERYTHING they do is godly and forgiven, so ANY suggestion they have done anything bad is "christian persecution." And can therefore be ignored, blamed on spite and dismissed because the accuser is "obviously" lying. Anyone who calls them out hates Jeebus!
It's insidious and astonishingly evil. As with all things conservative, it assigns them automatically to the "good people" group without effort or responsibility, requires nothing of them, and automatically makes them the winner of any argument. So very convenient, isn't it?
It's attached to the racist personality type as well. When you are BORN into perfection (e.g. white), you don't need to be good, or do good, you already ARE good, by definition. And everyone not just like you is automatically bad. And not merely bad, but EVIL.
And it's ideal for the grifters, because all they have to do is "sound" like a believer, mimic the phrases and magical thinking, say "Jeebus" a lot, and pretend to pray, and you can manipulate the faithful into any atrocity. "In Jeebus' name," of course. And anyone opposing YOU is opposing JEEBUS!
So true. Anyone else would have been sunk by the Access Hollywood video. I will never, ever understand this cult.
We know what he is.
Epstein files are a diversion. It wouldn't matter if Trump raped little girls, murdered them, cut their bodies into pieces, and barbecued them on the WH lawn. SCOTUS, MAGA, and Congress would forgive him.
I think Virginia Giuffre’s family would disagree.
We SHOULD believe the #Rapist-in-Chief #tRump has been FULLY CLEARED & ABSOLVED by the heinous #pedophile, #Epstein sex ring leader & serial child rapist #Maxwell, esp. when fellow child sex abuser apologist & conspirator #JimJordan says there's no "there" there! CASE CLOSED youtu.be/lZmedoECldw?...
His ‘base’ would stand and watch and then help spread the denial. But people who were on the edge and just tapped over the MAGA/GOP line at election time might wake up and switch side.
if its taken them this long to switch sides, why do you even want or need them on your side? why do you want to share your table with people like that?
All revolutions require people on the fence who were swayed last minute by a lie to switch sides to create a critical mass of resistance and opposition. Otherwise stagnation will become the status quo. I’m not proposing you make them your friend, simply your ally in a specific cause.
i dont know what version of ww2 you know but what actually stopped fascism last time was not 'winning over the fencesitters', it was concetrated, collaborative international military effort. if its taken someone this long to decide trump is a bad person, i dont want to know them. period.
You are of course entitled to your opinion. Based on what you’ve read and experienced. Only time will tell.
I think transparency matters long term if and when the US reckons with itself over this dark period
IMPEACH!! CONVICT!!! REMOVE!! And send that Bastard to a jail with no pardons, no chance of getting out, and liquidate his assets. Even the lands he owns in other countries!
Yeah they will all just choose not to believe it
Waiting for the gotcha moment for 40 years of sexual assaults.
sorry, more like 60
All the same, let's see what happens. RELEASE THE FILES.
My thoughts exactly And his staunchest supporters are the so called Christians.
It makes a difference to the victims. Release the victim statements.
For most of us, it makes a BIG difference and most of us agree he shouldn’t be anywhere near the White House. The problem is holding him accountable. We’re at the point where he should be abruptly removed. Why aren’t we removing him?