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I wonder if - Being religious should exclude you from being a politician! Simply because there are always some who will refuse to seperate politics from their religion.
Ted Cruz single handedly proved the conflict of interest, flat out admitting he votes for things based on his religion. Probably a lie, but the concept alone is still a problem because thats... distinctly going against separation of church and state.
and fear. lots and lots of fear.
The founders of religions were loving beings. Later, many hypocrites sought to justify their evil in religion to gain power and manipulated the original teachings. The cause of hatred is not religion, but mediocre human beings who want to take shortcuts.
“The founders of religions were loving beings” Citation needed.
Are you sure it came in that order? Or could it be that good, decent people had to find a way to justify the terrible things they'd been taught? The start of Christianity, according to Christianity, was a hate-filled, grotesque murder of an innocent man, required by god to fulfill his own rules.
If you accept the manipulations of the mediocre as the foundation of religion, then logically they are evil in themselves. It is not true that God gave us His only begotten Son for the redemption of our sins. This is manipulation. The truth is much more beautiful, loving, intelligent, and good.
If you believe in a skydaddy who requires your allegiance to him above your oath of office, then you have no place in politics. I stand by that. To take an oath of office when you know you would throw it out if your skydaddy required it is to betray that oath from the start.
I don't understand why you're saying that. I agree with you, and I DON'T WANT THEOCRACIES!!!!! Saying that the founders of religions were loving doesn't mean I agree with the barbarity of Christian nationalism, the ayatollahs, or Israeli theocracy.
I must have gotten my anti-religion rants mixed up today. Lol. My apologies. I don't think it's true or productive to say that religion started with good... or verifiable. What it IS, is a false narrative people structure their understanding of the world around. Sometimes for good, sometimes not.
The atrocities committed by those who call themselves Christians are not caused by the one who said we should love one another, but by what, hundreds of years later, malicious individuals spread as Christian dogma. This is true of all religions. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Those who call themselves christians but disavow 2000 years of christian oppression are living in a fairy tale. You're the fake christian. You've got too strong of a moral compass to be a true Christian. Christians are what the leaders condone, not what you say they are.
I'm not interested in being right, but in seeking the truth, whatever it may be. If the vast majority of humanity's geniuses have been spiritual, perhaps there's something you're missing.
What in the world gives you the impression I'm not spiritual? Because I don't follow the same death cult? I must not be "spiritual" if I don't buy into your death cult?
If I said "real nazis are about love, unlike those fake nazis," it wouldn't change the entire history of very real nazi hate. The same is true for christianity.
Ugh! You put Jesus and Hitler on the same level... It seems to me you don't believe in human goodness.
Ummm, no, no they weren't, not according to the Torah, the Bible, or history books in general.
Please prove that Jesus, Buddha, or Muhammad, the beings who founded the three major religions today, were not loving. The Old Testament should be left for study, but evangelicals recovered it because they can interpret it in their own way and find justifications for their manipulations.
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How lovely is simple polarization on social media! That's how Trump, Meloni, etc. thrive. I AM NOT A DEFENDER OF RELIGION AS IT IS PRESENTED EVERYWHERE TODAY. I am a cultured, scientific, and intelligent person. But I say that, for example, Christianity after Nicaea has very little to do with Jesus.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions was specifically about religions. Religions, like people, are their actions, not their intentions.
Sure religion can be bad, but it also gives a „reason“ to live for millions of people. People tend to find comfort in feeling their insignificance.
I’d also say mostly republicans.
Sad, but true!
"There are many things done in an ivory tower that a bowery bum wouldn't spit on." AKB,, Vet Korean War WW II, Viet Nam, Cuban insurrection...and sometimes "bum" (his quote) out of necessity
I'd have to say money, greed and materialism are more the root of hate than religion.
Most organized religion is rooted in those 3 things.
History disagrees.
I think you need to dig a little deeper. While religious conviction may be the vehicle, it's how the religious tenets are interpreted and summarily deployed. Personally, I was educated by the Jesuits - they taught me what hatred had done (eg. the Holocaust) and I learned to not hate.
The Jesuits were a key force in the Counter-Reformation, and their influence extended to the political and military landscape of the Thirty Years' War.
Yeah - I'm not THAT old.
They served as confessors and advisors to Catholic monarchs, shaping their policies and actions.
The Jesuits' interest in military affairs, fueled by figures like Ignatius of Loyola, led them to support military solutions against Protestant powers.
Religion is just the tool.
Maybe in your world but in Europe it was mostly for land values (money, food, influence...). And religion of course.
And self-serving populist politicians.
This is the goal for religious extremists:
are this retard, really? what a worthless NI-NI you are.
Religion exists to control and divide us. It is the very ground from which the seeds of hatred grow.
THE RELIGION OF CAPITALISM
Patriarchy. In order to justify dominance & control over everything, it's necessary to "other" anyone/anything different & learn/teach hate to divide & conquer. Few religions have hate at their core; they've been coopted by patriarchy (white male supremacist patriarchy, mostly).
I disagree. I think hate is promoted by a tiny group of people who hide in the shadows and expect to benefit from it.
To have a more complete picture, it's more like tribalism in general, to be fair most cases are about religion but there are more things people hate each other for. It can be as trivial as a game of soccer
Strangely enough if all religion disappeared, people will still be hating anything different, politics, colour, nationality, music, you name it someone will hate it.
Nah. I am not religious, and yet I fiercely hate baseless assertions.
This is such a stupid meme. Most of the wars of the twentieth and twenty-first century had nothing to do with religion.
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My religion (Judaism) teaches love and respect. We arent hateful unlike certain radical Muslims and Christian groups.
Key word here being “radical”. There are hateful people in every group who claim to be acting in line with their religion.
Exactly put. My religion's extremism mostly looks within, others look out
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Spot on!
Sad, but true.
No shit. Religion is a political tool to control and subjugate the masses. That is an historical truth.
Capitalism, mostly. They need to turn us on each other so we won't question how someone has ten billion dollars while kids are starving.
Spot on!
Always has, always will.
People shit on Whoopi, but she once said that all religion does is say I’m this and ur not.
People that hate are not religious at all. They may think they are, but they are very wrong
Agreed!
No hate like Christian love.
Comes from bad parenting
In fact, where children are concerned, hate comes from their parents.
The evangelical term “Father God” rings in my ears.
Thr 1% and the church should be handing 30% to the feds, just like the rest of us. Period!
Hate comes from judging others, something the Bible discourages. Judging others is only reserved for God. Yet many Christians violate their own book.
Has a majority religion free people in the UK, there is still lots of hate! Hate I find, is mostly derived from greed!
Without religion, there would still be people abusing power, murdering, enslaving. If there was no religion, they use something else to seize power.
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True!!!!!
Specifically Christianity
Algebra It comes from algebra
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Totally agree with you
hate comes from greed - need to manipulate. People learn to use religion as the way to control them. Religion does not make you hate- it’s the people who are in charge of it. Hold people accountable not the establishment. I’m not religious. If we really want to stop the BS- call out those in charge
If God exists, "calling out those in charge" means calling out god. He wrote the rules, after all, and has all the power. Sure, catholic priests abuse children and that's bad, but that's not the reason the bible describes god as an abuser himself. The bible itself is condemnable enough.
It was written by human being. Bible to me is a fairy tale. It’s not a historical book. Rather a story written by someone.
What I'm saying is that yes, it's the religion that makes them hate :) it's not the leaders; it's baked into what they consider scripture.
Leftism is one of them.
An involuntary confession that invalidates the premise.
Wrong
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Nope. Hate comes from fear. and only from fear. A hateful person is a coward.
It's the height of irony that people of faith from all the 3 major Abrahamic religions have holy texts that preach tolerance, forgiveness and love, yet it isn't truly practiced by many, if not most.
There’s a lot more “obey or die”, “worship me or die” and “don’t question” than love, tolerance and forgiveness as far as I can see.
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I'm going to disagree. My country isn't very religious. There are still tonnes of racists and bigots who have never stepped foot in a church or other religious building in their lives.
that can't be true, otherwise, there'd be more species of humans today than just Homo Sapiens. I doubt people of those eons had enough intelligence to even think of religions yet.
Next, patriarchy.
So, by your logic, let's calculate that "mostly" stands for 98% of hate manufactured. Explain the other two percent.
Especially jihad.
Maladaptive Belief Structure
Hate comes from ignorance 😒.
and fear...
So does religion. It was invented by people who had no understanding of how the universe works.
Hate lives in the hearts of men for whatever reason they can think of. Being of a different appearance seems to be a favorite although it need not be anything so apparent or obvious. Sometimes it's what people think that brings hatred and vitriol upon them.
You buy it at church
Republicans
"Mostly people, dear."
it's easy to blame religion, but i think it's a symptom, not the real problem people are the real problem, religion is just an effective way to creating conformity, and an us/them mentality
"people" are not the problem. Look at the "higher inteligence" animals, doplhins, elephants etc. They too are able of hate and there are documented examples of revenge, even after years. Even less inteligent animals can show unjustified violence or aggression that is not provoked by anything.
One could argue, that hate is very basic concept for any animal.
Spot on!!
Mobs, actually.
And if not that, personal disgust.
Sounds about right
Republiklans.
Naive and simplistic. A bit like most religion-citing reasons to hate.
Ain't that the truth.
Fuck off.
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Sad but hard to argue with facts...
Evangelism!
Both exist since mankind's origin. Makes me think, that intelligence may be the cause.
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Also traffic.
Anti religious bigotry proves religiosity has no causal effect on bigotry. It does however alienate 10s of millions of left and centrist Democrat leaning religious voters in the USA which can have devastating ramifications in a general election.
Nailed it.
Because atheists are known for their love and acceptance for people who think differently than they do?
I mean, I've never read an atheist guidebook that told me owning slaves and beating them was ok...
So then, nobody was enslaving anyone until religion came along and said it was ok?
Atheists are the ones who ended slavery, and led the fight for civil rights?
Atheists criticize religion. Not necessarily religious people. Big difference. Atheists can of course also be evil or hateful people. But that hate is not expressed in the name of atheism. Again very different with religion.
I think the meme was harsh, yeah—but responding by attacking atheists just shifts the blame and adds more aggression to the conversation. Wouldn't it be better to talk about the actual issue rather than deflect? While I'm not hateful because I'm an atheist
I disagree with that meme having no nuance to point out it's not religious people that are the problem but abusive religious leaders I disagree and renounce any statements targeting hatred towards people for their beliefs that's what you just did and it's not fair to respond to a criticism however
Needlessly Harsh and aggressive with a similar hostility and aggressive tone we should as both communities for faithful and faithless aim to build bridges not tear them down
Yeah no I understand that point and I think that's where most churches fail they give one person power who to some point holds some agenda that's why I'd never blame the believers but I think organized religions are needlessly risky to the true message of the scripture
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😏 As atheist myself, I could´t agree more.
Atheists just don’t want to have to engage your religion. They’ll be pretty vocal about the fact that they don’t believe it but they don’t want you removed from public life, they just want public spaces to be equally enjoyable by people of all beliefs.
Lots of religious people feel the exact same way, myself included. Glad we agree!
I'm a Christian, but the atheists I know are much more Christian than some that are calling themselves Christians, morals do not come from religion for sure.
I feel mostly the same as you. I see lots of Christians full of hate, and lots of people of other/no religion full of love. But, where do you think Western morals come from? I don't think we really see a lot of things like the inherent value of human life in ancient cultures.
As it turns out, "western morals" are just a ton of hot air.
Yes
If you believe in religion you will believe anything. Some guy says he's got special access to god and you believe him? Right. What is wrong with you? I am transcendently spiritual but I couldn't tell you how it all works. Anyone that says they can is fooling you.
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Tom!
Are you sure it's not the need to do anything to hold on to white privilege? Are you sure??
Or Ignorance maybe Chicken egg
And ....sycophants!! Good ones!! The kind that have no problem giving a blow job in public!! They would do anything to get ahead. ...His wife's children have such a climb ahead of them. Oh, the shame.
And ignorance.
alright everybody shut up you wimps want to edit any media that hurts your precious feelings and you freaks want to ban media all together
Hate exists perfectly fine without religion. It just gives it an easily identifiable flag.
“….democrats”. There, I fixed it for you. You’re welcome.
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My Apache friend told me, "We don't fight about religion". It's a First Invaders thing.
Nothing says “I’m insecure” more than being outraged by someone else’s personal beliefs.
Maybe including hating evil..
Partially true. It comes from ideologies. Remember Marxism, Fascism and Nazism were not religions, but they were ideologies. Anything where a set of rules are formed around an idea. Wokism, Transgenderism and even net-zero fall into this category as well.
You can be plenty hateful without religion. And quite frankly, those who hate the most use religion as a justification without being a real practitioner themselves. You can show up at church and pray but that doesn’t make you a faithful Christian (or any other faith really)
Spot on. Thank you.
To general
not true: comes from people ABUSING religion and nationality and the us-them theme
Only from DEMOCRATS!!!! THE PARTY OF HATE, DESTRUCTION AND DEATH!
Well hate is something that is taught for sure.
Never gets old...
Never forced it on anyone, except maybe on my own page if you tune in. 😜
mostly classism by way of religion*
I hate for fun