Pete or Pritzker for me. Just have to wait and see.
Pete or Pritzker for me. Just have to wait and see.
Personally, I think Trump should be at 50 or 60. I know, I know, there haven't been that many presidents yet, but he's just so much worse than the rest of the field, I think we could allow a few TBD spaces above him right now.
Yes, good point. Around the world people cannot understand how an obviously incompetent con man could have been voted for a second time.
What even is this list? Questionable rankings aside (why are Reagan and Jackson so high, they were fucking atrocious), "Geralald Ford"? "James" Van Buren? William Henry Harrison is on there twice and Benjamin Harrison is missing.
It's a presidential ranking done by supposedly unbiased experts, i.e., presidential historians. There are many available and some have mistakes like you point. I have yet to see one where Trump is not at the bottom or close.
I'm not saying I don't agree that Trump should be dead last. I'm saying it looks like a crappy AI generated list or made by someone who doesn't know their history which hurts its believability because it's full of mistakes lol
Okay, I get your point. But why aren't there rankings showing Trump far from the bottom? I imagine those responsible don't want their name tarnished.
Pete Buttigieg = GOP win AOC = GOP win Harris = GOP win Newsom = toss-up
Why do you think Newsom is more electable than Buttigieg? Buttigieg polls better than Newsom in swing states. Last summer, OpenLabs conducted polling in swing states to see which Democrat performed best against Trump. Buttigieg polled higher than Newsom in every single swing state ⬇️
Lol I’m not voting for a man who willingly meets with Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk. You look at this is check off all the folks who don’t meet your demographic preference? Nothing to do with the policy, nope!
Imagine thinking AOC would lose and the guy who thinks homeless people should be genocided is the right pick
AOC would absolutely lose the general election. It would be a landslide. It's a different thing than saying she couldn't be a good President. But you must win it first. And she can't. It's a hard truth for her ardent fans.
Great defense of your position. Calm, logical, and eloquent.
I think everyone should have healthcare, education, and housing. You think we should run a guy who wants to euthanize the unhoused and is famous for paling around with Nazis on his podcast. There is nothing for me to defend.
You have no idea who I think Dems should run. I never said it and you never asked.
It's not about the perfect pick. It's about winning back the presidency and reversing some of the damage.
"It's not about the perfect pick, it's about picking the guy who wants to euthanize the unhoused and pals around with Nazis on his podcast"
Hey, as long as he's not implementing the Nazi policies, I will take that as a win.
Well, technically he's implementing some of these in California right now (Homeless and immigrants) and is capable to throw any minority under the bus if that means winning and keeping the power. If this is the standard for reaching the WH, then the USA or Dems hadn't learn ANYTHING on this time.
Or better saying We don't want full original Coke fascism with Vance, we just want Diet Coke with Newsom lol
GOP can’t have a third term! Therefore, it has to be a democratic win
Oh boy, are you wrong! They can and and sadly will. 1921-1933?! Harding, Coolidge, Hoover. 1981-1993?! 🤷🏼 Reagan, Reagan, and George Bush. Worst nightmare: Trump could even be president again. KABOOM! Then we would all be fucked. He runs for Speaker and JD Vance and another VP-prick resign.
As Trump has already had two terms as president of the USA, he cannot and must not have a third term! No president in history has had three terms in office
And wrong again: What do you guys even learn in History?! - 1933-1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt: three terms He cannot run for office of president again (22nd Amendment), but NOWHERE in the Constitution or the Amendments is stated that he couldn’t be VP or running for the House.
Things have changed since Franklin de Roosevelt was in power. Please read the following : www.usconstitution.net/presidential...
Something I will remind you though, I’m not American! I wouldn’t want to live in America, especially with dictators like Trump in power
Why isn’t Stephen Colbert in this array of photos?
As much as I respected Kamala Harris' last minute run, her 15 minutes are over. I'd go for Pritzker or Whitmer. Pete would be great, but being gay would kill his run. AOC, but not this time around. Having said the above, I'd take any of them as long as it's the end to the Trump Train of Terror!
How would you feel about a Pritzker-AOC unity ticket running on anti-corruption?
Sounds great!
There are no winners in that group. The country would know by now if there were. The next true leader in the Democratic Party is probably still in grade school.
As if there was nothing more important to do. What about a clear strategy against Trumps autocracy right now?
I would ask Kamala not to run
Well, there are only two people with an efficient resume to pick up the pieces of our government after Trump and his Gang of GOP.
I love @aoc.bsky.social & @petebuttigieg.bsky.social Either one would do a phenomenal job for America and ALL Americans. HOWEVER, America is too racist for either. @govpritzker.illinois.gov has the best chance at beat not just trump but could get the GOP to bow to him. ☠️
One of these candidates has been conspicuously silent for the last several months, which is fine if she's retired from public life, but if she's planning on running for any major office, she might want to speak up about all the chaos happening right now.
Well, considering even people among her own party is throwing friendly fire against her in recent weeks and there were confirmations of people among the Dem Establishment hating her, I guess she's better planning her campaign for California 2026.
Shapiro 2028
It's fun how anyone thinks there will be another election.
I am interested in having a robust primary debate We always get a better candidate that way.
me too, and you're absolutely right. let the people have a real choice
JB Pritzker has not expressed interest in running for President because he thinks we need to focus on 2026, but I think he would be a wonderful leader.
I’m not voting for a billionaire.
I’m not voting for a transphobe, or someone who hates working people. Pritzker cares about the working class.
That’s great. I’m not voting for a billionaire. No chance.
I think all of them are great candidates.. can be great politicians to rectify the situation and set Americans on the road to some degree of pride and dignity of their country.
Pete: yes Pritzker: very yes AOC: hell yes! Newsom: oh HELL no
@aoc.bsky.social.
PLEASE!!! ANYONE IS BETTER!!!
You Americans and the 2028 elections lol! There is no more elections . The guy in power is not letting go . And if not him it will be someone else to continue the move to complete the 2025 project ! Stop kidding yourselves! It’s over !
What is the point of writing a post like that, unless you're just a troll?
When the truth hurts ! Maybe it will motivate as the USA is in the biggest fight of its life !
You just wrote that there is no point. How is that motivating anyone?
Making them angry like l am that this is the norm . People need to stand up and say what is happening is wrong. And also the world as well. This needs to end ! But do l believe there will be another election or one that is not rigged . No l don’t . Trump administration is proving to be unstoppable!
No, Trump isn't unstoppable. He's at his worst right now. He's already extremely unpopular, and he's planting the seeds for economic, healthcare and natural disasters that are only going to make that much worse. I expect him to have massive setbacks over the next few years.
And I hope you are right! We all hope lol some might not admit it but we like the disaster just happen to him . If you get what l mean!
LET'S TAKE IT BACK IN 2026....WE CANNOT ALL WAIT UNTIL 2028. NOW IS THE TIME WE ACT AND REACT TO TAKE OUR RIGHTS BACK AND NOT BE GIVE AWAY BY TRUMP AND HIS CRONIES. OUR TIME TO RISE IS NOW!
I like Pritzker.
Of all of these, @wesmoore.bsky.social actually has the most impressive record of passing a slew of bi-partisan bills. People should get to know him.
Pete
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I know who can’t possibly win already.
I guess Beshear just doesn’t exist anymore
Beshear is mentioned in the article, but honestly I wouldn't take the list too seriously. It's a very vibey, insidery guess on who will be running next round. If history is a guide, it's very likely to be somebody they're not even thinking about today.
I think Beshear could do it. Wider appeal to greater America. Anyone saying anyone is better than Trump we will lose. Could DEMS LEARN A LESSON
He's the first mentioned in the article, and has his own blurb, but you'd have to at least click the link to know that
I love Mayor Pete, Pritzer and Wes Moore.
Gavin Newsome willingly meets with folks like Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk when he thinks it’s relevant. I’ll never vote for him.
So we'll put you in the JD Vance column then?
To be honests, Vance and Newsom are the same level of corrupt lying weasels who are capable to change values and throw people under the bus for power. Just Vance is more openly despicable, while Newsom is the neolib "Diet Coke" version.
Nope!
You may not realize it but you are walking down the same path that got us to Trump.
If you think that folks choosing their own priorities when they vote as has been done since the inception of our country is the problem, maybe revisit that instead of making excuses for mediocre leaders. This path gives us a better party instead of voting for folks who actually don’t give a shit
You can use the dichotomy of the two party system as a noose for yourself or you can use your brain and vote for the candidate who will work towards your own priorities.
At some point though, you need to get on board with whoever ends up as the candidate and put your full weight behind them. Otherwise we get exactly what we have right now.
I don’t make that commitment without knowing who the candidate will be. I will not vote for Newsom who throws parts of my community under the bus as a popular policy position. If the party wants votes, they can earn them instead of pointing to the other guy and screaming.
You are making my point : this is exactly how we ended up with Trump. Repeating the same thing will not get you a different result.
That’s your opinion on why we got Trump while ignoring the rest of the contributing factors that lead people to vote the way they do. Guilt tripping doesn’t work anymore Linda
If the voting systems remain compromised, all the moves in the world won't help.
When will Americans learn to stop treating democracy and elections like a reality tv show where they have to put in votes for their 'idol'?
I have to agree here.
Its so childish.... and im not opposed to grown ups acting like children once in a while, but when theres literally hundreds of millions of lives at stake, and the future of a whole country, in part the world, yea then being childish is basically just as irresponsible as driving drunk.
Um, people, it's a long standing gag. He "ran" in 2004 as well.
Really. Somebody get that gag a chair !
Ooops. It was 2008. I still can't believe he lost, even after Aragorn gave him his sword.
Impossible!! Everything in the USA is showbusiness! There population of idiots is huge, and those idiots you only catch with shows, not realistic projects to make their life more relax, more livable!
Don't care where he stands. I'm tired of this notion of electing celebrities.
It would be fun. Especially, considering he's THE hardcore LOTR fan, he'd go full Galadriel on MAGA... Though, on a more serious note. Methinks your country needs a bit more sanity in 2028.
I like Colbert. But 2 Hollywood people is enough for 1 lifetime as President. Regan 2 terms and now Kim Jung Orange 2 terms.
We could just, stay with me here, let them run for office and hold debates and vote. Whoever gets the most votes is the winner!
Really like the governor of Michigan. She has an impressive record of getting things done, also the governor of Illinois. Along with Governor Newsom. Rather see AOC & Buttigieg in the Senate.
Don't be complacent. Pete, I hope you can win
Sad thing is, America would rather vote in a white man who is a narcissistic sociopath that a highly competent woman or homosexual man. American’s consider themselves No.1 baby, but the world sees them as they see Donald Trump, ignorant and lacking self awareness, deeply racist and thick as shit.
That was the argument against voting for Barack Obama in 2008. Being the first is always hard, but find a good candidate in the right environment and people will vote for them.
Only one medium yanks understand, TV! 2001 a black president on TV (24) 2009 Obama voted in. Reagan in westerns, yep he’s presidential material Trump on prime time - what a winner he’s presidential material
Sadly this is exactly true!
America voted in a paedophile, somebody who was convicted of sexual assault, and convicted of 34 counts of fraud! If this is what America is coming to, then God help America
Absolutely bonkers
If Republicans get a third term in office, which is extremely doubtful, America will be finished completely. They would bring in project 2025 which will destroy America forever. Forget the American dream because it will be non-existent.
Hate to point it out, but Project 2025’s aims are already being implemented (clues in the name) www.project2025.observer By time 2029 comes round, America will be at War and Trump will declare national emergency and no election. Or Trump will probably be dead before then and Vance does same.
JD Vance btw, that man is damaged!
We know Trump is bringing in project 2025, but the next president, preferably a Democrat will overturn everything that has been brought about by dictator Trump and project 2025. Trump is a dictator, a bully, a rapist, a paedophile, a fraud! He will be brought down
a Democrat will overturn everything This is key, cause if the Democrat in charge does the same as Obama did with Bush war criminals and financial bankers or Biden with the J9 insurrectionists, then it would be useless. This time any democrat president must get hands dirty for fight. No excuses.
All pro zionists, All dogs of AIPAC!
CNN screaming about Dems in 2028 because they are too fucking cowardly to talk about anything Trump is doing now.
No more neolib candidates. I will not vote for the democratic party status quo.
And Mark Kelly?
Still, I wonder if trumpy & other Epstein rapists have nightmares of those baby Girls they've sexual abused, Their crying, screaming in pain, bleeding pleading over & over please don't, Why are you doing this to me? & Old Farts laughing & getting their rocks off.
So many pictures of him with underage girls. Try covering that for a bit CNN. 🙄
They better be sure they want to inherit a broken & broke country after the Republicans are done destroying everything Remember each time Trump took office he inherited the best economy in the world & so far each time he has fucked up the economy
Don't forget Chris Murphy, Andy Beshear, and Roy Cooper.
Michelle? Not in this list
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Deck chairs on the titanic
Whitmer and Newsom are only legit candidates on list. Maybe Pritzker. Wes Moore not happening. He comes across inauthentic and prepackaged. We had an Obama. Thanks anyway. Maybe cabinet position could work tho.
OAC is not running. It’s absurd to even suggest. These early polls are basically name recognition.
I guess we're not tired of losing yet. If we want to win, we need someone from outside the Dem party to step up.
What a beautiful group of people 💙🌹
Wish we could get someone who is into the following...but most likely another quietly corporate dem....it's who they are.
Yes, plus a few : - Term limits for SCOTUS and fed judges - Enforceable ethics laws for judges - Congressional investment limited to broad based index funds - Hard caps on political contributions - Ground up reform of immigration laws And many more. Lot's of work to do to fix this country.
Get rid of that Electoral map thing. One person one vote should mean something.
Trump campaigned against this whole list, stood on a stage doing nothing while music played, and simulated felatio on a microphone at his rally and people still voted for him. Dems need a new strategy.
A truth many people here don't want to hear, but the best political choice would be Newson or Shapiro atm. Do you want to win or not? Sad but true: America will not vote for women or homosexuals.
Have you seen Newsom's poll numbers? Just looking at the data, he is absolutely not a good political choice. He is incredibly unpopular. He has a much worse net-favorability rating than Trump, Vance, Biden, and Harris. ⬇️
Here's my theory Newsom and Buttergieg are lightrods. Also is not a coincidence after a mood tour post John Stewart, Josh Shapiro has been protected and blinded. I think Shapiro is the real candidate but they want to avoid the mistakes of "implicit" imposition like happened with Clinton and Harris
Avoiding media wear and backlash from WH and other groups. Then in late 2026 he will appear step by step post re-election. Will he be elected (key word)? I don't know, but he looks the preferred one from mainstream since that Bezos poll where Shapiro was the frontrunner.
Yep. I’m 70+ and would love to see a woman or LGBTQ president. But the important thing in 2028 is winning the presidency and IMO the best way to do that is to nominate a moderate, middle-ish aged white man.
The establishment says this every primary season and we end up with a fucking terrible candidate. How about we shut up about demographics in the shadow of the first Black President that had the same exact things said about him and let different policy shine through?
No matter the message, if it’s delivered by the “wrong” person it won’t make a difference. And what was terrible about Kamala?
People said Obama was the wrong person until he won Iowa. Kamala was highly unpopular, couldn’t separate herself from unpopular Biden (if she even had the choice), and proposed policy that doesn’t fix the root causes of our institutional problems. I still voted for her.
If Dems don’t come up with policies that hit home and that people understand, it really won’t matter who they nominate.
It's not easy to admit that as a lib. The world isn't fair. I'm German, and I can only advise you that the opposition must consolidate at all costs and nominate the best mainstream candid. Those who stubbornly insist on their ideals will do so until their downfall. Well, that's at least consistent.
Then find another straight white man because those 2 suck.
That’s not the truth at all. Folks won’t vote for an empty suit. You point to demographics despite the party running the same losing platform against a known liar and conman
Everyone said that about a Black man until he won. You make excuses to run the most boring folks with an out-of-touch platform again we’ll see how it goes I guess 🤪
You don't think the voters are to blame, who keep falling for the same tricks from the conman despite everything that we know about him and all of the warnings that have been repeated over and over? It's easy to blame the candidates instead of looking at ourselves.
At the end, political parties raison d'etre is winning elections and also communicating messages while involving the grassroot effort. Even if you blame the first thing to voters, the other points lie exclusively in the same party. So it's a two way avenue of blame here.
1. The definition of a leader is someone who takes the blame’s for failures too, so yes they are 2. Blaming voters will help us win again how? 3. Do you want a hand written apology or can we move forward with trying to rebuild this country? It’s okay to expect more. Stop excusing mediocrity
I would say a very big chunk of voters probably don't know what inflation *really* is and why inflation occurred. They just see the current state of the economy and blame whoever is in charge. Trump took advantage of this, frightening them a bout the economy and many voters didn't do their research.
Well, every campaign makes mistakes. There are things that can be improved sure, I don't deny that. Every voter should be putting effort in researching the issues. When Trump says Biden is the cause of inflation and Trump will fix it, voters should be looking into this to see if that is even true
Now you're appealing to the voters' common sense. I remind you that these voters have once again elected a psychopathic, complete idiot as president who tells such ridiculous lies and such nonsense that no sane person could possibly bear it. And still...
Yes, it's mindboggling. You have to wonder how much better a candidate needs to be to beat this, because I think despite some mistakes, Kamala was still a strong and highly qualified candidate. I was certain going into that election that Kamala had it won.
It's unfortunate to say this but if you are a woman running for president, you automatically put yourself at a disadvantage, no matter how strong of a candidate you are. Many voters simply do not want a woman leading the country.
I don’t mean any offense to this at all. I went into the election thinking that Kamala was highly qualified despite not enjoying her entire platform. I still knew she could lose. I am from a rural area and could see the unpopularity shine through despite Biden’s legislative agenda.
There is a HEAVY dislike of anyone who is associated with the D brand even among folks who dislike Trump. I don’t call them out-of-touch as an insult, it’s what they are compared to a good portion of the country that they could be winning over.
There have been groups doing research on statistical anomalies in the 2024 Election such as Election Truth Alliance and Smart Elections (who has filed a recount lawsuit in Rockland County, NY). You may want to check them out.
I wasn't suggesting there was something fishy with the election results. I know it's just more people that were misled and fell for the con.
That group is a sham that has presented no concrete evidence outside of statistical buzzwords surrounding the fact that there was less D turnout overall. That lawsuit isn’t finished and has a plausible explanation for the precinct in which it is taking place. Stop spreading misinformation
Parties are suppose to inspire folks to turn out, not the other way around. Elected officials work for us and any excuse to put the onus on voters who have plenty of other shit to deal with in their life without being guilt-tripped by chronically online political commentators
I didn't say that. I said what would probably be the best choice, considering the real political circumstances. Real politics eludes our wishes and ideals. It simply is what it is. Drawing the best conclusions from this does not mean blaming anyone.
It's just my opinion atm. Obama was black (I apologize for the words but maybe not "too black"), but a heterosexual man. That makes a difference for many people, whether latent or conscious.
I understand unconscious bias, but again, folks say the same exact thing until it happens. And for the other leading option to be Gavin Newsom who can hardly debate DeSantis himself is laughable. The D’s are out-of-touch. Demographics aren’t a solution.
Newsom is an empty suit. Pass. And this is someone who voted for him twice and voted no on the recall.
I like Shapiro as Governor but it’s time for Pete Buttigieg.
The ones who are quietly making moves I have absolutely no fucking use for!
My vote goes for Pete or Gavin!
Any one of these people will have a very tough job trying to recover what has been lost it will take decades for Democrats to fix the devastation Trump is like a cyclone and the Democrats will have to pick up all the pieces and try to rebuild a new America 🇺🇸 That is if it’s not too late
I don’t care who it is as long as they pledge to undue everything Trump did and fire anyone that got hired during his term.
The Democratic Party needs an overhaul of the glamour and start to represent the people instead of the corrupt elites
Unfortunately it saddens me to say this.. All women candidates can just chill. That PTSD for the past 2 elections where we selected a woman, will last for decades. On both sides. Gay isn't going to cut it either. I like my Governor Shapiro... But he is a Jew and won't get elected either. Gavin
Gavin Newsom will be your candidate from that group.
Advocating for a man who willingly meets with Bannon and Charlie Kirk while blaming everything on demographics. Nothing to do with policy, nope! Gavin Newsom is an empty suit.
'They don't look like Indians to me': Donald Trump on Native American casinos www.washingtonpost.com/video/politi...
Trump Keeps Being Racist To Native Americans And Getting Away With It www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-...
You can bet if Trump's racism was directed at Jews instead of American Indians, AIPAC's American media and press would be crucifying him See how that works
Gavin's my Gov and my guy.....