If Trump issued an Executive Order requiring all newspapers to send articles to the WH for review before publication, would newspapers report it is a “requirement” or “mandate”? Or would the fact it’s preposterously illegal and unconstitutional make right into the lede and headline?
Listening to Gabbard (R-Moscow) yesterday gave me the same chill😱
you know, i honestly think it would be a split. like the law firms under attack—perkins coie is fighting while paul weiss rolls over.
Another chapter in my book “The #FuckingNYTimes How the #complicitMedia screwed our democracy”
Do you really want an answer to that question? 😬
We are finding out who are the weak & who are the strong. Is it fair to say, women outnumber the men?
100%. I'd guess it's because those who have been marginalized by society already know better than most that the best way around bullies is straight through them.
Pretty sure you know the answer, Chris.
Would depend on the outcome of the WH review
I’m sure we will find out.
Considering most of the papers are owned by his billionaire pals, they’ll voluntarily comply and the question posed becomes moot.
They might be so bold as to call it “controversial.” Perhaps even to note that some experts describe it as unconstitutional.
EO’s are not laws.
What if he said he was firing a state Governor?
Can you believe you even have to consider that question?
Sounds like the death toll for first amendment rights if news sources comply.
Consider: "Washington has become Nero’s court, with an incendiary emperor, submissive courtiers and a jester high on ketamine in charge of purging the civil service...We were at war with a dictator, we are now at war with a dictator backed by a traitor.” - Claude Malhuret youtu.be/wmDVrV7QRrU
This.
The headlines would make it seem reasonable and not horribly authoritarian. "Trump issues EO to improve the accuracy of White House communications" Unfortunately a fair amount of the media is complicit in our demise.
Headline: Is Centralized News Good for the Economy? See how new protocols may affect you
We’d all be surprised to learn that it hasn’t been happening.
Exactly. For 10+ years his lies have been used as headlines. How? Why? Insanity.
Desensitization. Lab rats.
Hopefully, vengeful lab rats.
Capitulation seems to be the magic word.
NYT headline: Unconventional leader shakes it up with an unruly press.
“New rules imposed by the Trump administration sending shockwaves through the journalism community this morning”
Most would cave, like the law firms & universities. When this is all over they and collaborationist Rs will say “we were really against them all along.” Remember to say: “no. fk you. You legitimized and empowered him with your spineless surrender. You will roast in hell for it. Have a nice day.
No they would go right along. They may come up with some gymnastics to blame it on Hillary though.
Stop giving him ideas lol.
A good question.
Are you asking about a real newspaper, or the Washington Post?
The former.
Chris, they would consider it a congenial concession to our Supreme Leader.
Good questions Also read about Justice R Jackson’s 3-part EO test: a President has the direct or implied authorization from Congress both Congress and a President may have “concurrent authority” a President acts against the expressed wishes of Congress. constitutioncenter.org/blog/definin...
I understood that an executive order is the demand for the appropriate “capo boss” to take action as directed. If they accomplish step one, eliminate the territories of the bosses (dept of ed) or neutralize them (trump cabinet indoctrination or denigrate (Kennedy Center), what is step two? TBD
If?
lol, i have some shit to send to the WH
Don’t give him any ideas!
If he did that, would I be shocked? 🤔
@nytimes.com would no doubt describe the move as "Bold..."
Let’s wait and see
I'm not sure you can come up with a ridiculous proclimation that people wouldn't insist is true and honest and the One Real Path. Must salute every time you say the word 'trump' as an EO, or refer to him only as 'Our Glorious Leader Forevermore' in print every time they type his name No bar left.
The Ba’ath Post!
First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The NYT should hire you. They haven’t figured it out yet.
Illegal and unconstitutional mean nothing to the MAGA crowd. The problem is, nobody in a position to do so is lifting a finger to stop him in any meaningful way like invoking the 25th Amendment.
I could see that happening!
The owners of several publications would like some time to wordsmith an answer to the one.
5th paragraph after the jump on page 7: "Some legal experts think the mandate may be challenged in court."
"White House as Editor? Cause for concern or print media's savior?" by Maureen Dowd
In Latest Power Move, Trump Flips the Script on News Orgs - NYT
I feel like we’re playing monopoly and have sold all of our properties except for the Utilities. Hanging on by a thread.
I think we have enough evidence now to assume most newspapers would do the first thing.
🤔 .. erm some .. like some some Law firms .. might!
He’s ridiculous. I want him to show us a clean bill of health. It’s enough.
They would send out Maggie Haberman to explain why Trump wants it, why it makes sense, and why it might be good for us.
You know the answer.
He would actually do this.
Serious question... who do i call or go to should i get an unsolicited war plan ? Is there a call line to addressed such occurances ?
The old fart doesn't even read , how to even proceed ?
They only care about themselves. They don’t give a shit about the people or the country.
You know the answer to that already.
Perhaps newspapers could be made into a sport. Made to compete against each other to get Trump's highest rating, and access to the golden floors of his shiny White House. Keep them fighting to get the news out, just as long as it's not about him.
Hard to say. It shouldn't be, but...
Don't give Trump any more unconventional ideas. He thrives on them. His ppl think it's his superpower. Own the libs! They don't like Amer living up to its ideals. So they Blame the Dems! The prob Dems have is they don't deal/w Amer's view of $uccess. @gavinnewsom.bsky.social @govwesmoore.bsky.social
Tough question. For them.
It would be overturned the day he is stupid enough to try it, though it's on his mind.
Good question! I fear the answer! The illegal nature of trump EO's do not seem to slow the crime by much. The Trump/GOP cabal trample the US Constitution and few people bother to complain! e.g., Where is the uproar over Habeus Corpus crime by THE STATE?
This is exactly what I don’t get. People are clearly afraid of Trump, the man, and the power he has and the mental instability he displays. These are not laws, they are the dreams of a wanna be tyrant, documented, and people are submitting like bitches.
I would tell him to go pound sand!
Unless you were the Washington Post
WTF
Sedition Act of 1798...punished anyone who would write, print, utter or publish...any false, scandalous and malicious writing...the Supreme Court later...recognized a broad consensus from the political and judicial branches that the act was unconstitutional. constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay...
At any other time I would think: what a ridiculous question
Question is…which paper would post “truths” first about dear leader? Like how he hit 18 holes in one, blindfolded. Also that trump has no asshole.
One would hope it would be the latter, but newspapers have owners and are all driven by money. We will have to see how many heroes we have.
An executive order is not a law, right? Not until Congress approves it. Why aren't executive orders going to Congress?
Wait! I thought all newspapers were already doing that.
The media's approach to headlines under Trump has been to try seem "even handed" and soften them at the precise moment that they should be like a fire alarm.
Because they're worried they would be a fire alarm and there'd be legal expense.
Don’t give him any ideas. He’s already beating up the Major Law Firms, and they’re caving in to him!!!!
Hey, Chris, stop giving Stephen Miller ideas. Also, in the current MSM media environment, they would report it as a "requirement" and "mandate" and some would comply.
Given recent actions of ABC settling lawsuit with Trump and Bezos restricting articles critical of Trump I suspect some corporate media outlets might cave and submit.
Media outlets are really shitting the bed on this very thing.
I think NYT, LA Times and WaPo at least would report that as a requirement, and start doing it. Maybe Philadelphia Inquirer would report as mandate, but hold out for a while.
Also he can't read
It is not illegal. He can order anyone to do anything. Does POTUS have the ability to compel compliance?
We can’t because now, Chris. And that’s why we are where we are.
"Edict"
11th Commandment
This can’t be a true thing. He is trolling, again. But for the moment, say he isn’t. No more defense. Time to go on offense.
I think the NYT would bury it in about paragraph 40. Bezos would likey just defer to whatever Trump wants.
Good question
I feel like we are already there. Too many obeying in advance out of fear of retaliation.
every other institution is wilting like a flower in the Texas heat--law firms, universities, The Democratic Party--why not the media, too?
If Rump gets to do this, we will never hear the truth again!
Trump does not care about the laws we have - he is creating his own laws via Exec Orders. We blew it giving him that power.
Why on earth did you just give the guy playing President that idea??????
There are a lot of chickens*** owners and editors out there. I'd hope they'd do the right thing. Law firms rolling over, spineless Congress, hoping courts will hold the line for us... The future is dismal.
Dismal- yes. It’s gone too far already. And as far as I know the MAGATs are still fully behind the plan. We are F. U. C. K. ed. Maga doesn’t yet realize that they’ll be going along for the ride with the rest of us.
Yes. MAGA will deny until the day we all die. Just like their orange god, they will blame it on everyone but his administration.
What is an executive order?
Wry insightful question.
That would mark the end of the end and time to emigrate to Canada or Greenland.
When will people realize Executive Orders aren’t law? Until Congress passes what he’s trying to do in every instance, it’s just a whiny sharpie signed piece of paper.
Why give him ideas?
It will occur to him eventually, and it’s not like he’s going to pick up the idea by reading this post (or by I reading anything)
He won't do it because he doesn't need to
He does many things that he doesn’t need to because he thinks he is the King
Yes, but some of the demons that whisper in his ear DO read.
This is a coup. Another coup. Say it.
If they required all journalists to accept untested experimental shots that profited their largest donors, or be fired. Would that be OK?
Judging by reality, the former?
It'd depend on the edits the WH makes after reviewing the articles.
We'll probably find out in a month or two.
For some folks, nothing would change
You know the answer to that. It's enraging because it's a Yes. They'd go with mandate, btw. The papers seem to like that one.
Hahahaha. Not happening. Move away for the power Orange turd
I’m not sure that they wouldn’t comply.
Would be like this
I’d say from looking around they would do whatever the king ordered them to do!
This is what dictators do. Trump and his MAGA Maggots must be reined in NOW!
Bingo!
Maggie Haberman would run the headline by Trump to comply in advance
Their headlines would be: TRUMP REACHING OUT TO ALL MEDIA TO DEVELOP AND FOSTER RELATIONSHIPS
This is a good question. So far all of Trump’s monkey sh$t EOs have been reported as laws not aspirational power grabs that are illegal according to existing laws.
We need to hammer the point that EOs are not law and are just internal executive branch policy direction. He has no jurisdiction especially to demand election issues.
Good question.
It would be on page 16 or so.
Unsure, they would have to run it by Big Balls first.
"White House to provide review services as newspapers lay off staff."
Judging by the Gulf of Compliance test, I suspect most would ask what font he prefers.
He’d let Hegseth choose the font.
Great, now we all have to strain our eyes trying to read 10 pt Fraktur
🤣
But Fraktur was declared "undeutsch" by Adolf because, (((you know))). I suspect they'll commission their own font, "Red Pill Grotesk"
Hegseth can choose the emojis
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“Make right”? Huh? I think the only way we survive is if people, places, or things, continue on as if he never issued an eo. When asked, cite the relevant law snd agency that can stop them, and tell him to f.o. He is emboldened by the 🛑 s. So 🛑 , stopping.
This is the single biggest journalistic failure in media today among a multitude of outlets.
If Trump owns the legislative and judicial branches of government why is he still issuing Executive Orders? Why doesn’t Congress enact laws that promote Trump’s agenda? Is it because even with a majority he couldn’t get anything passed. If that’s the case Musk should fire Congress and save $$. FRAUD
They seem to act like Trump is a King and his executive orders are royal proclamations that must be obeyed.
Sad state of affairs that the answer would not be a slam dunk.
We all need to take a page from the governor of Illinois’ book and just ignore his decrees across the board. Trump does whatever he wants (it’s always bad) regardless of whether it’s constitutional or legal and dares people to do anything about it. Dare him instead.
Stay tuned to find out in our next exciting episode of... "Where's! That! Spine!"
“Trump unveils bold new editorial partnership.”
Chris is posing a totally hypothetical, not actually going to happen (we fucking hope), don’t worry it’s not a thing (yet), we have guardrails (still?) scenario.
It’s already happened. Stop kidding yourself.
Don’t give him ideas.
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Thanks for telling it like it is, Chris. I don't know who said this, but I love it: When one person tells you the sun is shining, and the other tells you it's raining, it is not your job to report "both sides". It is your job to go look out the fucking window, and report which one is right.
A decade or so ago, a reporter went to a college campus and asked students there about such things and some of them thought it was a good idea for the government to be able to censor what gets put in newspapers. At a college. People don't fully think things through.... at a college.
Male forebrain not developed until 25... Consequences...
You don't need a forebrain to be developed before you're in that frame of mind. That's just a bad education.
Exactly. It’s not a royal decree. (Thanks for giving him that idea though)
Things Trump threatens: * Free press & speech * Fair wages & taxes * Soc. Security * Health care * Environment * Education * Rule of law * Checks & balances * The rights of women, workers, voters, consumers, minorities, immigrants, LGBTQ Resist! 5calls.org usa.gov/elected-officials indivisible.org
These are all the things that keep us free. These are things that make us American Sure some of these things can be improved on, but to take everything away right away and make people suffer on purpose is evil and should stopped
Sure. They have 1st amendment, but to mislead, write disinformation, purely make up lies is the way China does it. Finally Americans have smartened up.
Surprised at the near-parity in USA Today.
Effing A-holes
Nice. Well it certainly gives me ‘hope’ to see that our press is so blatantly unbiased and not controlling the national narrative at all. 🫣 😳 😵. This is what it looks like when you vote back in greedy, indifferent leaders who OPENLY TELL YOU they only represent the interests of big corps.
@theatlantic.com 👍
Every time I see these facts displayed this way it's just the most heartbreaking kick to the face.
The Atlantic is gaining some cred right now, that’s for sure
Them, #Wired, #Newsweek... proud of their courage.
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So much for free speech. Everyday this guy finds a way to violate the Constitution and he is yet to be held accountable. Come on Congress enough is enough evoke the 25th Amendment.
Please! We don't to find out!
They’d start doing it that day, man lol
This Country is slipping into authoritarianism, we’re almost there!
@cnn.com already sends all of its articles about Israel and Palestine to Israeli government censors, not only those written by its staff in Israel & occupied Palestine. Major US media would just send their articles to White House and claim there's nothing they can do, but please support free press.
Are you for real? You seriously think a US news corporation is submitting stories to a foreign government for censoring? Muahahaha!
"CNN’s Jerusalem bureau is subject to the rules of the Israel Defense Forces’s censor, which dictates subjects that are off-limits for news organizations to cover, and censors articles it deems unfit or unsafe to print." theintercept.com/2024/01/04/c...
'“The policy of running stories about Israel or the Palestinians past the Jerusalem bureau has been in place for years,” a CNN spokesperson told The Intercept in an email.'
"One member of CNN’s staff who spoke to The Intercept on the condition of anonymity for fear of professional reprisal said that the internal review policy has had a demonstrable impact on coverage of the Gaza war."
"A shaky arrangement has long existed between the IDF censor and the domestic and foreign press, forcing journalists to frequently self-censor their reporting for fear of running afoul of prohibited subjects, losing their press credentials, and potentially being forced to offer public apology."
'“In a situation where a government has been credibly accused of singling out journalists for violent attacks in order to suppress information, to give that government a heightened role in deciding what is news and what isn’t news is really disturbing.”'
"...CNN hired a former IDF soldier to contribute writing and reporting to CNN’s war coverage. Tamar Michaelis’s first byline appears on October 17 [2023]... her name has appeared on dozens of stories citing the IDF spokesperson and relaying information about the IDF’s operations in the Gaza Strip."
Oof.
What's that thing about removing a President for INSANITY?????
I imagine, given recent experience, they would simply send their articles in to the White House for prior approval, without a peep of complaint.
the media is complicit
They'd quietly obey, and you'd never know it happened.
It would definitely be illegal. cbwrong.blogspot.com?m=1
It would be illegal, but SCOTUS essentially made the president a king that's elected for 4 years with their recent rulings on Trump criminality. So, if Trump claims it's for national security, would SCOTUS stop him?
Thanks for spreading the good work!! No More Messing with Democracy. Sing along with me!
Or would they submit the drafts post haste?
Who thought these big time attorneys would cave SO FAST AND EASILY?
what's sad is that Paul Weiss is the firm that helped Thurgood Marshall in the famous Brown v Board of Education case & also represented Gitmo detainees. They have a long history of standing up to hostile & powerful opponents. But, they caved for Trump.
Cashflow...
This is MORE than $$$ it is OUR COUNTRY🤬
Chris, I’m afraid that they would all do it, and then ask if there was anything else they could do. The quizlings are ready and waiting.
I believe Mussolini did this. 🤔
Only the right wing media would comply to earn points with Hair leader.
Law firms are giving in to him, why not the media too🤷♀️ You know Bezos-- WaPo, LA Times, etc would go along. Unless Repubs grow a pair, the transition to autocracy is basically complete. I don't see them giving up any of their power, having an ounce of integrity, or show any Real patriotism.
It’s complete. Now we move to states that protect tax payers rights to exist, privacy, & property. It’s a rental world, that’s not quickly turned around.
98% of drumpf's actions are unconstitutional. He doesn't care nor even understand. He's #fukingcrazy.
Well
They'd do it.
Excellent point.
Krasnov and VP Musk would absolutely have a service fee to utilize that approval system. And the prices are of course depend on how much they like you.
Gonna have to confer with John Roberts about that
Important point! We don’t seem far away from that level of fascism! Him suing to get money and restricting access seems to be his current preference to control the media. But that could certainly devolve further!
Im surprised he hasn't done it yet. Don't give him any ideas.
There's an idea!!! Everybody, mail your printed copies to the white house, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500, a week's worth at a time. Digital copies, email to comments@whitehouse.gov - just to give them a taste of the work load.
Newspapers will probably not report it and give the WH edit writes. That’s where we are today, folks.
They'd thank him for his wise leadership
As we see they are playing by the seat of their pants, crash and burn their way through this lawless reckless term, before anyone can figure out how to put out their 5-alarm revenge FIRE!
I get a lot of people are frustrated with legacy media. But note the recent great work by The Atlantic, CNN, Chris’s MSNBC, AP, The Times and, yes, The Post. The media’s never perfect, but they’re still on the job. Busting ass. 24/7.
“A hands-on approach that pushes norms”
If I were him I would definitely do such a thing. Issue one declaring Canada the 51st state. Issue one declaring the 22nd Amendment doesn't apply to him. Issue one renaming the country the United States of Trump.
You sir are clairvoyant.
We know a number of newspapers would do it.
He is NOT a king nor is he a dictator! So he needs to get over himself!
of course, it won't. The MSM has been a failure for over ten years. It's about corporate greed. Cowardice and getting clicks and eyeballs. It's not about telling the truth anymore.
Ever since Trump came down the escalator in 2015 to proclaim Mexico was sending drugs, crime & rapists to America, the media has been hanging on to his every word & every tweet. Before Trump, anybody making a statement like that would have been laughed out of the race or relegated to Ron Paul status
Yup. Authoritarians and criminals are good for ratings, I suppose.
Or the zeitgeist has shifted perception of d, c , and r.... Cumulative effect of pornography on the collective unconscious?
It feels like currently that a few would run the headline past the admin first
It’s pretty likely he will do something like that and say it’s required or he won’t give them White House access.
As republicans say they have a right to speech as We all do especially the press of the people not living in 🇨🇳 China
“Trump Stretches Boundaries of Possibly Edging Towards Breaking Norms” — the exact same headline in the Post and Times (probably)
They might suggest that it’s “controversial” or “unconventional” before secretly complying.
