Popularists gonna really lean into this right?
Popularists gonna really lean into this right?
War is lucrative for some; ask Dick Cheney. Trump is an opportunist for lining his personal coffers—no matter the harm or cost to America and Americans.
MAGA represents. 16%. Meal Team 6 has no fucking idea what this would entail.
MAGA’s coming version of 9/11 will turn those polls around.
Regardless of the unpopularity of US involvement in Netanyahu's regime change scheme, Bibi knows he can get the US to do the heavy lifting anyway by appealing to Trump's pathological need to always be the center of attention.
Every politician will call for nuking Iran regardless.
Just wait until their sons and daughters start dying for this stupid war.
Is this to the left of Hillary, Chris?
This moment ought to be weird for People who voted for Trump bc they were tired of our "involvement" in the Ukraine war.
Yeah... He could just have continued to support Ukraine, made russia lose, and earn a Nobel Prize for doing so.. But instead he opted self destruct of the USA... 🙄
I’m sure whoever in the cabinet wants a fight will intentionally prevent Trump from seeing this
Remember when we had a semi-functional congress? Good times.
Can’t beat popularism
Quick— we need someone to hack Hegseth’s signal chat to get the play-by-play. In all seriousness, I have to crack jokes, so I don’t end up crying about the possibility of war.
How much does opinion shift once they do, though? Asking for real - I've seen the studies on how politicians actively, vocally supporting issues can lead polling in the other direction. Given how cultlike his supporters are, and the 'patriotism' of war, could this polling shift?
Now change the poll question to "should the US engage Iran militarily to stop it from getting a nuke" and see the %s flip.
Neocons never changed their stripes, they just got better at hiding their stripes behind the MAGA brand, using culture war issues as a distraction etc. As for paleoconservatives who may have opposed US involvement - they're too busy sucking up to Trump than standing on principle.
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Hey, cool guys. Let’s do crimes and post about it online. I’m totally not a fed.
I guess Ill be in the cell w Newsom lol www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/cal...
So our independence was based on a Crime?
I’ve been saying this since inauguration - Rethulgians aren’t representing (let alone that ol oath thing) Didn’t we do this no taxation without representation before?
If there’s one thing America is good at it’s being duped into supporting a war
The propaganda is gonna spring into overdrive to manufacture consent for a war no one wants.
I’m hoping the Joe Rogan’s of the world keep giving us a hand …
Nope
Are they too stupid to use the Bush playbook? You feed the mainstream media false information about an imminent “threat” and they will promote it nonstop. You know the NYTimes and the WaPo are drooling with anticipation.
“Pointing this out would raise the salience of national security issues, which Republicans are more trusted on,” or some other bullshit
I mean that's as clear a message as possible.
Let him do it, every one of his policies is a disaster but this one may actually make him lose alot of the right
I was actually surprised to see those parts of the poll. Even among Conservatives and Trump voters, more than half of respondents oppose a war!
MAGA is different than conservatives of the past. Most of them don’t really care about Middle East and don’t see the point of spending taxpayer dollars to fight a war there.
They are also shameless and have no principles other than what he says so spare me the morals of MAGA they have none
Suggesting the US bomb people who do no deserve it like Iranians living under authoritarianism so that Trump becomes even more unpopular isn’t the hot take you think it is
We can't do anything to stop Trump until his popularity goes down to 2% so Chuck Schumer feels safe doing the right thing. Who am I kidding? Chuck Schumer will never feel safe doing the right thing.
He’d sit on his hands even while in a cell in gitmo
Watch how the numbers swing as FOX, et. al., get into high gear.
My guess is someone like @mattyglesias.bsky.social would say any Democrat would be crazy to run on going to war with Iran.
This is a little better than entering WW2 polled at the dawn of the 1940s.
aaaaaany second now
Right after the Harper's Letter crowd says something about detaining college kids for their speech.
Wag the Dog & yellow cake uranium are still the order of the day.
Trump is dyslexic….he’ll use 60% as yes!
Mark Warner tells us the kids who would be drafted just love crypto so corruption act it is.
That interview between Tucker and Ted was wild. I didn’t even quite know how to react.
I always remind people that last Trump term by the time the tax bill passed 67% of Americans were stating in polls they were opposed. Fast forward the new bill has similar opposition So yes most Americans are going to oppose our intervention in the Iran conflict; the GOP & Fox will support it.
Lol, polls only matter to them when it's throwing trans people under the bus.
It’s almost like a “just following orders” excuse, absolving themselves of all culpability.
Another well-timed distraction from the Epstein files …
many leftists, who are siding with Iran, keep imagining an invasion that won't happen. they are also hoping Russia and China will save Iran. Putin is not going to be doing that lol airstrikes, if it came to that from USA, is not doing Iraq over again. if anything it resembles Obama and Libya...
just without Iran ending up a failed state as Obama left that really. and Libya was only really done because France wanted it. Gaddafi, spooked by Hussein's fate, had become really cooperative and helpful to the USA.
There should be no intervention, because why should the United States intervene when its own country does not have good public security?
Give it a few weeks for the consent factories to really get rolling
Has any country ever been tricked into a war? Or tricked into a war this easily?
Careful my dude. Its one thing to talk trash on domestic policy, but when you start fucking with imperial affairs things tend to get hairy
The support will be higher if we ultimately do get fully involved, at least for a little while.
So many of your colleagues want this war so bad. All the arguments against Iran can easily be used against our ‘allies’ in the region. The Saudis body count of Americans is far higher than Iran’s. The difference in attitude? Iran made us feel powerless. I They cucked us and that can’t happen.
Yet feeding Netanyahu bombs to obliterate Gaza and bomb Lebanon hasn't been doing just that? How dim are these folks?
It’s 2002 all over again, only dumber (if that’s even possible).
Rump makes this guy look like a member of Mensa.
yeah he bumbled his words, but he wasn't completely incoherent like Taco. IMO, W. still takes the top honor in worst foreign policy in modern US history. But it looks like Trump wants to beat him!
I don’t think I can do this again.
Well,there'll be no "coalition of the willing" this time. Even the Aussies and Brits aren't dumb enough to get dragged into this one
Shame on, The Who, George? 🎵Won’t get fooled again🎵
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RNC and DNC dont listen to no populists, or even constituency majority, they listen to donations
Fuck NO!
This most certainly cause fissures in his base
But when has Diaper Donnie or the GOP ever listened to what constituents want? NEVER. However, they have been really good at passing legislation which harms people or voting against anything which would benefit citizens.
On this, it's the Democrats I fear. Remember how they marched behind Shrub into Iraq? Convince me they've learned their lesson, because I see no evidence. 🤔
Leave our troops where they are, but send ICE on over. That would make for some good bipartisan TV.
@mcbride.house.gov i expect you to physically fight chuck schumer on this
Hell no.
The only people in the 16% that should count are those that enlist now.
@mattyglesias.bsky.social ?!
The last 7 days are like an elevator pitch for Wag the Dog 2.
It doesn’t really seem to matter what We the People want. It is more about what they The Dictators and Billionaire (wannabe dictators want).
Gosh, no!
Seems like we already are, and without knowledge or consent. No one honestly believes a nation that destroys its own families, bludgeons communities, rips the social fabric - that they would actually give two squirts of piss what we think of war plans, or seek legal approval or popular support.
Call your representatives!
Popularists?
Depend on which boot they want to lick.
In the middle of both tables…straight down the middle…
NO
I think Netanyahu can still achieve his recruiting numbers for an Israeli foreign legion
If the Military decide it’s time to honor their oath nothing will stop them.
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If NO is higher than YES then WH will do it regardless of our opinions
Where are the third way Dem centrist corporatists and David shor popularists and ezra klein types
When Obama announced the killing of bin Laden, Trump desperately wanted that moment. So, he tried with Qasem Soleimani in 2020… but people were like “who he?”. So now, he wants to announce his attack on Ayatollah, but Netanyahu is killing Iran leaders, & Trump be like “nooooo, not yet! I want mine”
The rapture ready set is getting a collective stiffie.
No. Matt Yglesias is gonna somehow decide that trans people are the reason Trump bombed Tehrhan.
Something something Latinx
My prediction is 'yes,' even though I know you're fishing for 'no.'
I think it's very bad that a quarter of the people polled don't even have an opinion on such an important issue; or just don't want to express their viewpoint! We Americans have to be involved in OUR Government's attitudes in all of the issues, or we can say goodbye to any right to have an opinion!
Yeah, they are. They’re going to lean in, get on TV, and shape the narrative until the public support shirts. You know, what Dems NEVER do 😑
Any minute now, Vance will be rolled out to buck up on his hind legs and tell the world: "The Iranians will greet us as liberators"
Why is the black “yes” number so high?
Gas prices have already gone up in the Midlands of South Carolina.
Probably? Isolationism is generally pretty popular, 9/11 and long-term antagonism towards Iraq was probably temporary.
See, the way war works in America is that a war in Iran will sorta be unpopular, but since most Americans have no connection to the military, all the death & tragedy will be relatively easy to ignore--see also Iraq/Afgan wars. Dead American soldiers won't facilitate user engagement on social media
24% uh, I dunno. 24%.
According to Ted Cruz we’re already involved 😬 bsky.app/profile/thet...
I mean most of those exoatmospheric intercepts are probably American, and we've found SM-3 parts in Iran x.com/Easybakeoven...
Kinda want to see B2s in action NGL
Actually pretty impressed, did not expect yes to be so low. Bet one week of FoxNews though will bump those numbers up.
Did the polling company call Lindsay Graham like 200 times?
Hell, no!
the age group really reflects the past experiences. The older the group, the more opposition to the war.
I can’t stop thinking about shills like Ted Cruz and Lindsay Graham going out and talking about how good it is that we’re assisting Israel as if they wouldn’t be losing their ever-loving minds if Biden was aiding assaults on Iran without a declaration of war Make them pay for taking these positions
Chris, we just need a little time to manufacture consent, it takes time homie
Fuck NOOOOO
16% is below the crazification factor / Keyes constant. Numbers like that barely exist in natural polling conditions.
Populists?
Right after they dump YIMBY because it polls horribly
Where is the “Hell No” category?
can you just tell us what you mean so we don't have to wonder about what you really mean? We really care but please spell it out for us so we don't wonder.
Leave it to Bibi
Lmao. No.