I truly do not think that if Trump has campaign on “if I win, we will bomb Iran” that he would have won.
I truly do not think that if Trump has campaign on “if I win, we will bomb Iran” that he would have won.
I think Maga will always fall in line to whatever trumps whims are on any given day. Since the GOP are cowards they will always cave to what Trump wants so I think they would have done the same at election time. Let's face it too many republicans simply weren't going to vote for a
Woman of love color because deep down theyd rather be gop closet racists or rather voting booth racists only showing their racism behind the voting booth curtains.
You misunderstand his base. Every decision he makes, in their opinion, is part of some grand plan. This attack tonight, will lead to peace. If there’s a war that lasts three years, that too, will lead to peace. There’s no policy here.
They have been prepared all their lives for Armageddon. Of course Miami will look like Gaza City, but that won't matter because they'll have been "saved".
American exceptionalism becomes an ironic phrase.
But watch MAGA run to the new goalposts with glee.
You don't know how cults work.
the conman (Heritage) was simply running out of time bcz of rapidly declining popularity of the conman due to his incompetence. he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act sometime soon. SCOTUS and congress will do nothing. and then a lot of ppl will die, including US soldiers.
Wanna bet!!??!!
When does trump ever tell the truth?😡
Republicans could stop Trump, the self proclaimed General of the Lord's Army. They CHOOSE not to. This unprovoked attack on Iran is on them. All of it. The blood is on their hands. And there will be blood.
We really don't know If the bombing was successful. Iran probably moved what was important.
Gosh and golly he was so TRUTHFUL in every other way, too.
That’s why they brought in the gamer™️
He was always babbling
We were always going to vote for the rapey, grifting, fascist. No way were we going to vote for the brownish woman.
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But what if he had sung it in to the tune of 'Barbara Ann'? And he won despite being a rapist, inciting riot and insurrection, etc. WTF were the people who voted for him going to care about going to war with a country they couldn't find on a map? pro.morningconsult.com/articles/can...
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Just finished season 2 of The Silo, then checked the evening headlines about the US bombing Iran… how very foretelling were the authors and writers!
A pathological liar and salesman with a fear of being judged will say anything for his own survival and enrichment. His demonstrated insincerity should have been a candidacy killer, but his fake machismo worked with the mostly male low-info crowd.
A. not sure he DID win B. wouldn’t have made much difference. Trump voters are motivated by a combination of resentment and stupidity so logic is immaterial
So??? Dumbest take EVERY.
Sure, but if you elect a complete fucking clown you can't be shocked by the circus... His moron voters probably won't even be phased
He wouldn’t have won if he’d promised to sit back and let Iran get the bomb without doing anything.
Bush mocked Al Gore in the debates for a supposed predilection for "nation building."
By the time the propaganda networks are done spinning it his supporters will be convinced that this is what they voted for. Daddy Trump can do no wrong. Anyone speaking out against it will be called traitors who hate America and Trump will now be a wartime President.
I'm not totally convinced he won anyway.
Elon would have still rigged the vote .
He might not have won anyway.
How much did the Trump operation in Iran cost? How many billions? Are there no poor people in the United States? Do you have more infrastructure? Will your political base be informed and, consequently, outraged?
Hair-gel Hegseth starts his press conference full MAGA, kissing the great orange ass making him sound like a savior, ignoring that we wouldn't be here if he had not torn up Obama's excellent Iran nuke agreement because of his racist hate! He makes it sound like no other POTUS could have done this!
This preemptive strike gives Putin more credibility on his attack on Ukraine because he called that a preemptive strike! It may also give justification to China for a preemptive strike on Taiwan!
Most accurate thing I heard on the news tonight - "Netanyahu found Trump easy to manipulate."
I’m at this point I’ve determined that even if he said he was going to bomb California about 48% of people would vote for him
At this point, I don't believe it. Failure of imagination & presuming that boundaries would hold is how we got here. Twice.
Or “I will deport your neighbors”
That’s why he didn’t say it
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Thank you for your attention to this matter.
That's what people were afraid of when John McCain was running for president.
But his campaign was full of lies that people believed and he still won.
I'm worried about the incompetence of those running our military on how their going to take us threw this war Trump has started with Iran. Where's his GOLDEN DOME to protect America now?
The truth is that for him lying about Iran ,is just somebody else's problem, and he has a history showing he could care less about causing headaches in others.
The truth is that for him lying about Iran ,is just somebody else's problem, and he has a history showing he could care less about causing headaches in others.
His base loves power. But then again, the elections are being altered. Not in 2020 but in 2024. Why isn't the media reporting on Elon and his scams anymore?
He killed an Iran general on their soil. He increased Obama's drones by over 330% he killed Americans in Africa there are images of a pregnant black woman crying over her dead husband remember her. He increased the deaths in Afghanistan by how much? he wanted war with NK. Yemen. Americans knew.
And Yemen was a Genocide. The media knew all this. But they wanted Biden/Harris to lose so it was important to push him being a dove crap one last time because the evidence before our eyes was to be ignored. And yes all the Trump lovers I know would have voted for him still and would again.
I honestly don't think it would have mattered. His supporters are blood thirsty with intense gun fetishes. They're *already* cheering it and chest thumping about it.
Bibi has murdered Palestinian civilians for nearly 2 years. He had to widen the war to avoid trial. He found the perfect stooge.
the shitstain took the bait
Well so did American voters
indeed they did!
No one would’ve believed him, so…
“He’s just trying to negotiat—“ [giant piano falls out of sky and crushes him]
Remember-->Trump stole top secrets, including nuclear secrets, and still missing. Need foreign reporters to go after him when he is overseas or his thugs in the administration. I would bet he sold them to Russia, who in turn sold them to Iran. Iran may have teased Netanyahu for this day.
Or if Obama said “if I win I will drop over 100,000 bombs on 6 different country’s.”?
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If he said he'd shoot Iran on 5th ave, he would have won. MAGA's comprehension skills are a bit lacking.
If the election were held again two weeks ago, he would have lost by a landslide!
He ran on the campaign "your peepah is right about them Jews and coloreds and if you vote the black lady you will be turned into a womanfolk and go into war in youcrane"
Bombing a country and setting boots on the ground are different things. He’s already bombed Yemen earlier this year.
* "Déjà vu" Lots of unknown unknowns here. *
who knows? His supporters don’t seem to have many firm lines, they just seem to follow his moves.
Or maybe it was the voter suppression either way 🤷♀️
But he won saying brown people bad, white people good- you overrate his constituency
Fire the asshole for false advertising i wish we could hold a snap election and remove him as soon as humanly possible.
Wrong! 77 million people voted for him a second time, knowing exactly what kind of person he is.
Yes he would have. The country is in full embrace of its racism, misogyny and stupidity. Can we stop lying to ourselves about that?
Hitler wouldn't have won either if he'd said he'd start WW2 and kill 9 m Jews. Idiots believe words, intelligent people judge by previous behavior.
Biden would not have won if he ran on open borders and record inflation.
The people who voted for Trump think Iran is something you do after you tip a cow.
Everybody who carried water for the false premise that Clinton/Harris would be more of a warmonger than fucking Donald Trump has a lot to answer for and probably should never be listened to about anything ever again.
All of those young 20s first time voters that swung hard towards Trump were in diapers, at best, when the GOP lied us into Iraq. They completely bought the idea that financial support for Ukraine was legitimate warmongering by Democrats.
if Kamala had been elected Israel likely would have gone it alone and USA would have sided with Iran i guess lol Dems totally would have let Iran have nukes...everyone knows that
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difference between wargaming, and having the political will to actually do it
Endless excuses
even your own thing acknowledges it wouldn't have happened
No, they just like to play dress up. It was nothing, really.
The liberals destroyed all of their own credibility when they ran the materiel production half of the Gaza genocide. Those are the people who are gonna save us? This is my opposition party, dawg? They've 'lesser of two evils'ed us into yet another war, I don't want to hear about Nader again
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Biden flattened Gaza. And kamala lost rather than distancing herself from him.
They dont care what he does. They move the goal post to defend him. He can do no wrong. Hes got literal bounty hunters causing chaos in the street kidnapping people and Military marching on civilians on US Soil. And they're still fucking ok with it.
They get to belch in public and call women bitches and do all the other low-brow things Dems appear to disdain with their preppy style and four-syllable words. Trump speaks the language of the lower classes while picking their pockets and making promises he never keeps.
They are sheep up for slaughter and proud of it.
Now is the time for peace😳 somebody must be thinking revenge.
you failed when you inserted the word "MORE". there is no such thing in this convo. dead people are still DEAD. and i wouldn't vote either one for a million dollars.
EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL WEEK!
@chrislhayes.bsky.social I’m asking in genuine good faith and will respect you if you respond honestly: do you regret this?
Not to put too finer point on it, of course…
The first time anyone agrees with Ryan Lizza is when you should stop taking them seriously, if you ever did.
These takes were so nauseating
I disagree. It’s a cult. They will fall in line.
He campaigned on keeping us out of wars, and somehow people bought it.
The election was 100% rigged-that is the only reason he won. He was not and is not respected, or liked. This is an extremely frightening time in America, and the world having him in office representing our country🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 😭🥺😱🫢🫣😬
He won, with his campaign and history. He would have won. Put enough money out there people will do anything.
By dissolving the treaty that governed bombs, he campaigned on that very thing.
80% chance he still would have won.
I don't think he won.
I'm liking the IDGAF Chris Hayes, turned down filters, etc 👏 👏 👏
That would have required Trump telling the truth for once.
Like he ever tells the truth to anyone, starting with himself. He freestyles his lies with his rolling oppression of us.
He didnt win in the first place. Your skeet is meaningless.
Jake Tapper would beg to differ
The people to blame here are the press, who after 9 years of this guy take his statements at face value.
I don't know. MAGA is all in with him. They changed their opinions like the wind as long as Dear Leader tells them its ok.
That's foolish. Thus was always going to happen because Americans are misogynists.
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Don't be naive.
You underestimate his rabid clueless base
Didn't work for McCain. www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7s5...
Naw, he still would have won, who are we kidding. The msm would have ignored him or said he didn’t really mean it even as his followers congealed behind it with signs saying “nuke Iran” at his events and he bragged about how easily he could destroy Iran and it wouldn’t have any consequences.
I wouldn't be so sure. Some would interpret that as "I think Iran has a bomb" and others would interpret it as "I think Iran is the bomb". Always important to not take him seriously or literally.
You underestimate the power of misogyny.
Maybe. Big maybe. MAGA would still have been MAGA, racists still racist, Misogynists still misogynists, ignorant still ignorant…
You guys really miss the landing sometimes. Of course he still would have won. How do you still not understand his voter base?
Do you think he won all of the swing states?
He campaigned on Iran never being able to get a nuke. He kept his word.
He didn’t win
. Trump: "I want them to stop dying." Then he bombs Iran. Flip-Flopping Lunatic. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVO1...
. Trump promises NO WWIII if you elect him. He's well on his way, bombing Iran! www.youtube.com/shorts/k9HOL...
Yes he would have, the MSM would just laugh it off
@chrislhayes.bsky.social Keep your eyes on the Epstein files
Is this type of insight why you get paid the big bucks?
Oh come now MAGA would vote for Trump if he said he would bomb MAGA.
Trump always ran on that Iran could not have nukes. and nothing was ever ruled out. Dems meanwhile would have let them. currently Dems are looking real impotent siding with Iran and saying Trump broke the law
No one is buying your false dichotomy. MAGA might get in line, but that's it. Enjoy the midterm bloodbath.
watch out for illusionary blue waves and for midterms setting up Dems to lose next presidential lol
Trump wins 💯 no matter what. This what America is. It’s not who Americans are. Don’t forget the difference. Until the people unite around the ship they’re sinking in… This🔻will always be America.
We are at a fucking trifecta Militarize your own streets Destabilize the economy And start a fucking war with the Middle East which has always gone so well We are so fucking screwed
It is my belief that he never won- not the first time; not the second time; not the third time; not the fourth.
Chris do you think like that hurricane he wanted to nuke that he would nuke Iran?
In a normal world you would be Captain Obvious. But, since he said to their faces, "I don't care anything about you, I just want your vote" , I can see why you didn't say: "I truly guarantee..."
He also wouldn’t have won if he said his actions while president would be up to all those that paid for him to win.
Weird that Trump always trashed John "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" McCain
The zombie electorate does not hear the words, they just feel the hate and obey!
Let the Jews run the government may not have even worked with his chuckleheads.
EGGS!!!
I don’t think he won! I think he cheated. Because that’s who he is!
His claims of being anti-war are lies. Those lies are so transparent that there is always this loud dissonance to be heard in the background everytime he says he's anti-war, suggesting the opposite is the truth. His followers are the same. They claim to be anti-war, but they revel in bloodshed.
He said he didn't need the votes, remember?!? We all do-
Do you honestly believe that the 2024 election had ANYTHING to do with policy?
What key group of people would've stayed home? I'm asking genuinely. From what I see in the many moratoriums it's that people equated Harris to Biden and Biden was unpopular.
If they could write off ripping families apart (again) and deporting millions more than are undocumented why is Iran taken seriously? All the things that were considered bluster have come true from tariffs to deportations. Why would this be any different?
Lol. It didn't matter what he said. Everyone HATED HER enough. Republicans love war. I've witnessed it all my life.
Or most of the rest of what he’s done
SHOCKER, HE LIED
I’m starting to think the same way. What I do find disturbing is how MSM is covering this moment.
I remember John McCain rightfully getting slammed for his flippant “bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran” joke… yet things have changed
Yeah, but Kamala laughed too much.
Are you sure about that? His MAGA base is pretty gullible
It’s not ‘winning’ now, either.
Medicate promptly
The fact that Trump will lie to anyone to win the election is no surprise. It’s the fact that those people believed him.
No but here we are… we need to move on to the “what fucking now” part and stop looking back at the election last November or we wont have another election to analyze.
I truly do not think that Trump running on *any* REAL policy matter would matter to this dumbshit country
Nah, it would only mean that Elon has to fiddle with the election results in swing states little more. You were robbed and you still refuse to see it.
He didn't win
Yeah, well, it's not just you underestimating charisma
I just don't know anymore...
People need to march on Washington and refuse this.
Oh, his cult would have voted for him no matter what. They will justify literally anything.
As long as he's providing a validating space for their racism, sexism, and homophobia, they're gonna be behind him 100%
well GWB made it perfectly clear during his 1st campaign that he was going to war with Iraq for trying to kill his daddy and SCOTUS still anointed him to the job!
No shit! If Trump had told the truth about anything he would not have won.
Crazy that you think he actually won.
Sure he would. America seems to like war. Makes them feel strong 💪🏻
Until their weak little boy president and his foot soldiers get a taste of their own medicine it will continue
I still think they would have voted for him. Why would this be there red line? Trump hates the people they hate. If Trump starting caring for poc, immigrants and trans people, maga would not be happy.
If he says it…whether he blames someone of doing something or he denies he won’t do something or says he will do something….he will do it! Why hasn’t anyone figured this out yet?!?
since Elon rigged it for him in the first place, he def would have won.
She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election. How Leonard Leo's 2021 sale of an electronics firm enabled tech giants to subvert the 2024 election. thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-th...
He said many horrible, mixed, and no nonsense things in the clown show!
No, he won based on corporate journalists - you included - who continually parrotted maga talking points about biden's decline while sane-washing trump's craziness.
Even he has enough brains to know that.
Most of the shitty things he has done, he campaigned on doing. But this, he campaigned on doing the opposite.
Chris why is the “Big Beautiful Flag” not illuminated? Flag etiquette requires it.
He didn’t win it was rigged, there are entire counties that registered zero votes for Harris out of thousands and thousands of people an unexplainable anomaly and proof it was rigged from the get go
I mean, he campaigned on a lot of awful things and still won. I'm not sure this would have been the last straw. How many voters would really have thought "I'm all in for mass deportations, ruining the lives of trans people, and unprecedented tariffs, but killing Arabs is a bridge too far"?
I reckon it wouldn’t matter
You really think that? Really?
A solid 48% of this country literally will believe that Trump said anything they wanted him to say in order to create a permission structure to vote for him. There is nothing he could say that would get them not to. He spits in their face and they say “at least it wasn’t a Democrat”
The people against it would just think hes joking. They hear and believe what they want.
No one even remembers this, but GWB in 2000 campaigned on bringing the “soldiers” home from Clinton’s “overextended” foreign commitments, like Bosnia and Kosovo.
Are you sure he never said that? I would have sworn I heard it.
Well, I fucking hope not. But who knows with this country anymore? Not me anyway. 😕
I really don’t think that would have made a difference. The majority of his followers voted for him because he is a racist like them and that’s all they needed to know.
News flash: He’s a liar.
I don’t know - his base is pretty stupid and they would’ve thought he was kidding - these people are deranged
Of course. MAGA idiots believe in nothing but “America rules!” Trump’s their fake-ass John Wayne. Bombing brown people is just mindless entertainment—background noise for the proudly ignorant. When blowback hits, they’ll sob into their flags as their kids come home in pieces.
I truly do not think that your punditry class matters anymore. Just sit this one out
You underestimate the racism and sexism in this country. It really brought the assholes out
Bet There won’t be any more need for campaigns now … now that he has the perfect excuse that is world war 3 is imminent and you’ll all have martial law to boot
Sure didn't work for John McCain.
Trump is big on saying, "Promises made, Promises kept!" He promised to keep us out of World War III. It looks like he didn't do a good job when he authorized bombing Iran. Promises not kept! Iran will retaliate! 😣
It wouldn’t have made a difference. If he got blowback for that statement, he would have simply said he was just being sarcastic.
#IMPEACH
What’s the point? He’s been impeached twice now and what good has it done? Yeah, yeah, Mitch McConnell
He probably would’ve gotten more votes
Nonsense. It’s a cult. Didn’t really matter what he said, or what he does now.
The power of propaganda is it replaces critical thought w/emotional loyalty; so facts become irrelevant, & allegiance becomes absolute. Propaganda thrives not on truth, but on repetition. When sufficiently indoctrinated, even the most baseless claims are echoed as gospel.
I'm still in DISBELIEF DUMB IGNORANT FOLKS VOTED FOR AN IMPEACHED DUMB FELON !! 😡
But at least he got people to stop talking about ICE raids and his historically low approval ratings.
Chris, remember in 2016 when you & Susan Sarandon laughed about how Trump getting elected might “usher in the revolution”? How’s that working out? www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch...
Yes, he would have, because the price of eggs was too high & that’s all that mattered.
Sure he would have. His zombies had bigotry at the top of their list. It was the only thing on their list.
I don’t know, man. He could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Ave and still get votes. Or so I hear.
Trump started believing his own lies. He is not the Messiah. He's a mushuggah. Bibi knows this.
Dude, stop with this. You work for MSNBC who sold us the Iraq war and will likely sell us this war.
THIS IS WHAT THEY WANTED ALL ALONG
Is that a quote from somebody? Cheated on all his wives, convicted 30+ times over, accused by nearly 2 dozen women of sexual misconduct, directed a mob to the capitol, tried to steal elections in several states. And 77 MILLION boneheads STILL voted for him. It makes no difference to his cult.
… but .. but .. mah eggs!
Hmm. I don't believe he really 'won' anyway.
I don't know anymore, Chris. I really don't know.
That's why he didn't say it! Ah? Instead he said "I'll lower your egg prices". It's so dumb it's smart. Or it's so smart it's dumb. Or... Ah what the hell. He's a convicted criminal spy insurrectionist who should have been in prison now. Yet he's bombing Iran at will. Are we looking for sense?
After the rapture, eggs will be free for the righteous. 🙄
That’s hilarious! Made me LOL
Yes, yes he would have. Are you not paying attention? These brainwashed morons twist themselves into pretzels to believe anything he says and does. Please.
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