Actually, it's quite the opposite. Plenty of voters stayed home or even voted for Trump because Biden/Harris went soft on Israel, and now they have president Trump who's treating the Palestinians 100x worse.
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Seems like the lesson to be learned is "if a lot of potential voters are saying your position is shit you should reevaluate to not alienate then"
aug 23, 2025, 4:41 pm • 4 0 • view
That's a good lesson for the Dem politicians. The lesson for left leaning voters is "don't stay home when democracy itself is on the line... vote for the Democrats."
aug 23, 2025, 4:45 pm • 0 0 • view
If you convince the one politician to learn the lesson you don't need to convince the thousands of voters you need. Seems easier to convince the one politician to not be shitty.
aug 23, 2025, 4:56 pm • 6 0 • view
Why can't we do both?
aug 23, 2025, 4:58 pm • 0 0 • view
If a politician knows people are being told to vote no matter what they have no incentive to change so they aren't going to. The politicians need to not be shitty and earn the vote
aug 23, 2025, 5:08 pm • 5 0 • view
I don't think you get the problem. Saying "The lesser evil is the lesser evil, actually" won't persuade people who are already disgusted with the lesser evil. Candidates need to actually stand *for* something.
aug 23, 2025, 4:34 pm • 8 0 • view
The first thing Democrats need to do is fire a whole class of Clinton-era triangulating advisors who see sincerity as an electoral loser & are terrified of the left. Either embrace actual progressive candidates or at least run a mostly honest moderate who won't talk out of both sides of their mouth.
aug 23, 2025, 4:42 pm • 2 0 • view
I understand what you're saying and that people are rightfully pissed at him for what he's done on LGBTQ. If another *viable candidate comes who is better than him on all the issues, I'll vote for them. If he is the Dem nominee I'll vote for him because the alternative is the end of democracy.
aug 23, 2025, 4:42 pm • 0 0 • view
I'd probably hold my nose & vote for whomever isn't a dictatorial fsck, but there are definitely better candidates & I can't blame people for reacting poorly to a lesser evil - especially one who so shamelessly throws people under the bus.
aug 23, 2025, 4:45 pm • 0 0 • view
Just looking at "moderate" state governors, both Pritzker & Walz seem to be better candidates at a glance.
aug 23, 2025, 4:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Walz deployed the National Guard against Floyd protestors, but I’d still likely hold my nose and vote for him if he was the nominee. Walz is as far right as I’m willing to go, and Newsom is decidedly much further to the right of him.
aug 23, 2025, 4:58 pm • 1 0 • view
It's your vote and your choice, but I think you're making my point for me. You voted for Walz not because you agreed with him about everything, but because the alternative was much worse.
aug 23, 2025, 5:01 pm • 0 0 • view
Lmao, Walz still doesn’t promote literal far right propagandists. He’s not even close to Newsom, nor is support for him remotely close to your bullshit.
aug 23, 2025, 5:06 pm • 2 0 • view
I agree.
aug 23, 2025, 4:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Lmao, if we get to him being the only option, democracy doesn’t exist. If “democracy” is going to end because people don’t support your candidates, you never had democracy whatsoever
aug 23, 2025, 5:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Maybe the reason people didn't vote for Harris was that they had real problems, that they told you about, and Harris publicly said nothing would change. People do not vote for "more of the same" if "the same" is bad actually. To win votes, tell me how you will improve my life. This is not difficult
aug 23, 2025, 4:20 pm • 40 0 • view
Harris publicly said nothing would change? Get real.
aug 23, 2025, 4:22 pm • 3 0 • view
Hillary and Harris were also the "Lesser of two evils." Forget this line of thought entirely, push for a candidate people want to vote for, not some mealy mouthed worm expecting more to vote against the other guy.
aug 23, 2025, 4:28 pm • 5 0 • view
www.msn.com/en-us/news/p... Harris tells ‘The View’ she wouldn’t change anything Biden did on policy
aug 23, 2025, 4:24 pm • 30 0 • view
She laid out dozens of policy proposals that would help millions of Americans. Do you honestly believe her public platform was "I won't change anything"?
aug 23, 2025, 4:28 pm • 6 1 • view
Yes I believe that, because she said it!
aug 23, 2025, 4:29 pm • 33 0 • view
Aaaaand there’s the goalpost shift after being shown evidence that directly disproves your flailing. Such a classic right wing bad faith display.
aug 23, 2025, 4:30 pm • 8 0 • view
She was proud of many policies she and Biden enacted which, for the most part, was justified. Do you dispute the fact that she has numerous proposals that would help the poor, middle class, and minorities?
aug 23, 2025, 4:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Sorry, you literally tried to pretend she wasn’t supporting those things just a couple posts ago. You can’t have this both ways, dipshit. I get fash cultists struggle with that fact (along with all other facts) though.
aug 23, 2025, 4:38 pm • 8 0 • view
Yeah, she said she supported Biden’s positions
aug 23, 2025, 4:24 pm • 6 0 • view
"soft on Israel" your poor mother, I feel so bad for her having shit you out
aug 23, 2025, 4:31 pm • 4 0 • view
They were extremely soft on Israel, it was absolutely embarrassing how little they did to curb what Israel was doing. 100,000 civilians weren’t just killed since January. There should have been sanctions placed on Israel, instead like all western leaders, it’s mealy mouthed “condemnation”
aug 23, 2025, 4:35 pm • 3 0 • view
The democrats need to pick a side, either it’s pro-genocide or it’s not. It’s not that difficult.
aug 23, 2025, 4:35 pm • 3 0 • view
Oh, "soft on israel" in that sense. Yes, exactly. The Dems ran on a pro-genocide ticket and lost, and now trash garbage like that guy want the dems to run an even shittier pro-genocide ticket.
aug 23, 2025, 4:36 pm • 3 0 • view
Dems need to wake up to the fact that aligning with Israel who are an undemocratic, genocidal war mongering apartheid isn’t going to win elections no matter how many millions democrat politicians get. AIPAC have been killing progressive policies for years, it’s time for a purge
aug 23, 2025, 4:41 pm • 3 0 • view
This is not the actions of a progressive lobbying group. AIPAC are partisan and target the left not because they align with us, because the left are a threat to them www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024...
aug 23, 2025, 4:41 pm • 3 0 • view
You can cut that Gordian Knot by understanding that the Dems are a right wing party who support genocide. They support everything Trump is doing, they just don't like his style.
aug 23, 2025, 4:42 pm • 2 0 • view
They are a right-wing party because of Israeli interference. This ain’t even controversial, look at Labour in the UK. Under Corbyn they were as left as they’ve ever been. After the spear campaign by Israeli lobbyists, they expelled the left and installed right wing puppets
aug 23, 2025, 4:47 pm • 1 0 • view
www.declassifieduk.org/peter-oborne... We talk a lot about Russian interference but what other country on earth decides what politicians are put forward in our elections? Not just in the US, across the west
aug 23, 2025, 4:47 pm • 1 0 • view
This is exactly what the democrats are up against www.declassifieduk.org/weaponising-...
aug 23, 2025, 4:48 pm • 2 0 • view
It's not "foreign interference", the same fascists in Israel are the same as in the UK and Canada and the US and everywhere. It's the global capitalist class doing this to everyone, Israel is just a symptom
aug 23, 2025, 4:50 pm • 0 0 • view
What does "went soft on Israel" even mean
aug 23, 2025, 4:38 pm • 1 0 • view
Scumbag is whining that people abandoned Harris because she was pro-genocide which is apparently fine to these blue maga wastes of flesh
aug 23, 2025, 4:40 pm • 2 0 • view
Thanks, mfer was so euphemistic about GENOCIDE I had trouble understanding what they were saying
aug 24, 2025, 6:51 am • 2 0 • view
lmao and here it is, you Nazi filth just want the Dems to keep moving right, keep attacking the left, keep doing the shit Trump is doing but he less rude about it. You're genocidal nazi filth and should follow your leader
aug 23, 2025, 4:29 pm • 1 0 • view
Actually, it’s exactly the same. You morons were literally screaming the EXACT SAME SHIT (and have since continued screaming it, as we can all see here) since Biden broke his promise
aug 23, 2025, 4:26 pm • 4 0 • view
of stepping down and not trying to go for a second term Lying doesn’t rewrite reality, no matter how often you fash cultists try to do it.
aug 23, 2025, 4:26 pm • 3 0 • view
So which groups of people are you not willing to sacrifice for political gain?
aug 24, 2025, 6:25 am • 1 0 • view