No, they’re both toxic now. They capitulated, imagine that you can talk to people who want to beat you to death, and pretend that this isn’t a coup.
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They are both toxic now? What are you talking about? He surprised her and turned it into a press event...she was there on behalf of Michiganders...hmmm? That's her job! my Gov runs the 5th largest economy in the world...Cali will do trade on it's own and bypass the Moron in the house
apr 13, 2025, 1:34 am • 1 0 • view
If Whitmer was surprised that Trump turned her visit into a press event to show her conceding to him, then she is a bad politician. Newsom invited bullies onto his podcast as if the jerks weren't going to spin those sessions into fodder. Bullies revel in cruelty; they can't be reasoned with.
apr 13, 2025, 1:43 am • 2 1 • view
Neither has a political future now. There's no political market for what they are selling. I live in Michigan. Was a big Big Gretch fan. Gave $2k to MI D candidates in '24. Marched on the 5th. I feel so betrayed by Whitmer, Peters, and Slotkin that I don't plan to support Ds in the midterms.
apr 13, 2025, 1:52 am • 1 0 • view
Voting for the GOP?
apr 13, 2025, 5:37 am • 0 0 • view
... or just not voting ... I am hearing that alot lately ...
apr 13, 2025, 2:25 pm • 2 0 • view
Not voting is like not getting a cast on a broken leg. Yes, it might get better if you don’t move around, but chances are you inhibit your own range of motion & end up in pain.
apr 13, 2025, 6:51 pm • 1 0 • view
Yup. This is the big problem facing MI Ds again. They refuse to acknowledge it and change course. Worse they misread Trump's win as a need to win Trump voters as opposed to winning ant-MAGA. The marches last weekend should have been a wake up call. CC: @slotkin.senate.gov, @debbiedingell.house.gov
apr 13, 2025, 2:44 pm • 2 0 • view
There's no GOP...only MAGA...so no :/ I think this is what breaks so many "I miss my Dad's GOP" Democrats. They want the political environment to be something it's not where they can look serious by being bipartisan. 1/3
apr 13, 2025, 11:25 am • 2 0 • view
That's a cartoon version of things that I hear too often from young people
apr 14, 2025, 3:08 am • 0 0 • view
Are you saying that I am describing a cartoon and that I'm young or naive?
apr 14, 2025, 3:12 am • 0 0 • view
I don't know anything about you as a person. What I'm saying is that the #NeverDem movement has a cartoon view in which they understand what MAGA are but the people who deal every day all day w/it are too clueless to see what the #NeverDem kids claim to deeply understand
apr 14, 2025, 3:16 am • 0 0 • view
I'm not a kid and not a never dem. I do expect success and will no longer let my vote be taken for granted. Additionally, I am certain that I am more familiar with MAGA, Dark Enlightenment, Christian Nationalist and their precedent movements such as the John Birch Society than most.
apr 14, 2025, 3:32 am • 0 0 • view
In politics if the fascists are willing to vote for someone they consider flawed but useful, while their opposition will only vote for perfection, the fascists win every time #NeverDem is a classic GOP vote-suppression op
apr 14, 2025, 4:27 am • 0 0 • view
Fascism takes root when a compliant opposition becomes collaborators and gives the fascist movement a vaneer of normalcy. Hannah Arendt and Timothy Snyder write well about this. Being willing and able to fight is not perfection. It's table stakes for my vote and my money.
apr 14, 2025, 5:03 am • 0 0 • view
No they didn't lol Arendt wrote about civil servants (what you maga types call the deep state) doing their job w/o questioning the job itself or its outcomes Snyder writes about obeying in advance -- what NYT and WaPo did, e.g., in fellating Trump and attacking/silencing his political opponents
apr 14, 2025, 3:23 pm • 0 0 • view
They cannot accept that, at best, the other party is a personality cult of a man who paints his face orange. At worst, the other party is a fascist, theocratic movement. They are incapable of accepting and reacting effectively to the reality of the moment. 2/3
apr 13, 2025, 11:25 am • 1 0 • view
I will vote for any candidate who supports the Constitutional order, the rule of law, human rights, public health, science, and national security that fights for liberal democracy globally. It would also help if they are authentically a good person. 3/3
apr 13, 2025, 11:25 am • 1 0 • view
That may be shooting yourself in both feet. Voting isn’t a statement, it is a choice between available options. 30% of voters choosing not to vote is how we got Trump & GOP in power. Perhaps run for something yourself or find someone to support.
apr 13, 2025, 3:56 am • 2 1 • view
Or convince the party that I have supported not to take me for granted. Americans like fighters. It's what Ds cannot or will not understand. They want the old political environment and are not adapting. @runforsomething.net and @indivisible.org are trying to change things. I'm unelectable.
apr 13, 2025, 4:05 am • 0 0 • view
It is going to take more than refusing to vote. Gathering people to pressure the party & those in office can work. Tactical visits to offices with video can be effective. Convincing an entire party is done person by person.
apr 13, 2025, 4:56 am • 0 0 • view
Thus working with others as pissed off as I am and voting with my donations. I have been to three events in MI in the last month, including the march in Detroit. Nobody there wants bipartisanship or more talk. They want action. Ds ignore that energy at their peril.
apr 13, 2025, 5:00 am • 1 0 • view
Blah blah...she has no choice! She has to go with the constituents that voted him in...don't know why they did... and honestly don't believe they did vote for Satan... but here we are #WerePhucked
apr 13, 2025, 5:11 am • 1 0 • view