We deeply understand that people in Gaza and other crisis areas need platforms to share their experiences and seek support, and we’re committed to ensuring that they can be heard on Bluesky. 1/8
We deeply understand that people in Gaza and other crisis areas need platforms to share their experiences and seek support, and we’re committed to ensuring that they can be heard on Bluesky. 1/8
Our moderation team works to protect users by distinguishing genuine advocacy from spam, manipulation, or other patterns that suggest fraud or deception. 2/8
Lol no you don’t
Yeah but you're real bad at it
So, just to be sure we have the record clear here Notorious right-wing pundits joining the website with the express goal of pushing anti-trans hate speech: GOOD, CHILL People who have endured genocide for the past year and a half reaching out to beg for support from strangers: SPAM, MANIPULATION
Says the people who are A Ok with transphobia.
So why is it every, single, one?
The brain science and legal work of Tali Sharot and Cass Sunstein fully supports your work. Thank you.
Bullshit. You repeatedly ban my lists calling out transphobic accounts while I am listed multiple times as a rapist and paedophile and you do absolutely nothing about it. You're completely biased against any minority group.
How do you reconcile this claim with a) how consistently the BlueSky algorithm finds Palestinian accounts in violation of policy, and b) claims that policies are unclear or inconsistently enforced? bsky.app/profile/carl...
Palestinians in Gaza are neither disrupting the platform, nor exploiting our goodwill. They're spending what little energy they have (from being STARVED in an ongoing GENOCIDE) to reach out for help. These are the times we live in, and you need to train your moderation team accordingly.
Well that's a fucking lie
No you don't. There are blatant Nazis on here you're completely ignoring. There are "centrist lawyers" on here denying genocide and defaming people because they can So, no, you don't
يعمل فريق الإشراف لدينا على حماية المستخدمين من خلال التمييز بين الدعوة الحقيقية والبريد العشوائي أو التلاعب أو الأنماط الأخرى التي تشير إلى الاحتيال أو الخداع. 2/8
Would like to see you finally respond to my multiple requests, over several months, for an appeal.
Thank you.
You consider any demand as fraud.
Nah I call bullshit
You are deleting accounts of people and you are dehumanizing our friends. Friends who are not spam.
Friends must be real, however.
Moderation is hard. It is. Thanks for doing the work to keep the platform from becoming a spam board. 🙏☕
I think all the accounts suggesting "send money to X so they can send it to Y" should be shut down. That's a crime. People with bank accounts should actually know some basic banking laws.
Molly Shah is a dangerous moron, and unfortunately has an army of dangerous morons harassing anyone who calls her out. She’s just a bully, nothing more.
she's not a bully youre just a fucking coward keeping your hands over your eyes until there's nobody left to genocide
You think suicide is a joke? Molly does and loves it when her followers weaponize threats
what does death to america mean to you
@gingerspiced.bsky.social you never answered whether you think telling someone to commit suicide is acceptable. Yes or no please.
yes if it's you
also, if someone is aiding and abetting genocide, should they... not die? like i thought we all agreed nazis deserved to die. What do you think constitutes a nazi?
Are you accusing someone of aiding and abetting genocide lmao
what do you think accusing Palestinian accounts of defrauding people does? do you think it encourages people to give them money and help them or do you think it causes people to abandon them to the whims of the IDF
You think that’s aiding and abetting genocide? The reason gazans don’t have food is because of Israel, not because they don’t have money.
She's single handedly keeping families alive in a warzone. You're just spouting dumb bullshit and trying to discredit her for what, being mean to you?
Lol. You actually believe that’s what she’s doing? You must have gullible written on your forehead, find a mirror
All you have is "they were mean to me." You're another mediocre shitbag with nothing to offer but criticism for the people actually doing shit. It's pathetic.
This is the dumbest take I think I've ever seen.
Agreed.
I think you should shut down
This is fully a legal and morally correct thing to do. Holding money in your bank account to give to someone in need isn't illegal. Even if it was. Getting arrested is worth potentially saving lives
lol you trust the Trump administration to take the side of a bunch of Keyboard Commies collecting for Gazans?
No? Trump already wants everyone who isn't a white man dead. Nothing I can do is gonna change that so I'm gonna help people who are being bombed and starved to death. Because their lives are much more immediately in danger than mine. The worst that would happen to me is jail time.
The user with a trans flag in their bio says jail time is “no big deal.” Hmmmm.
Try saying this again, but with a soul
That’s not accurate. Palestine is not a supported country by Go Fund me, Go Fund me REQUIRES a designated receiver, this is not illegal, it is stated in their policy: support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/art...
It’s not a crime, you old snitch. Go cry about it.
In some cases, investigations revealed networks where single individuals operate hundreds of accounts engaging in bulk messaging, identical replies across unrelated conversations, and mass following — behaviors that disrupt the platform experience for all users regardless of the underlying cause.
I will happily have my platform experience disrupted (oh no i have to scroll more) than to silence desperate people who are trying to survive. this is an extraordinarily evil occurrence happening in front of us; you can quit hiding behind "user experience" during genocide.
the wallet inspector will be along shortly
maybe you should do more work to expose the evidence that underlies your moderation decisions so that we don't have to just take your good word for it. because I think you're lying. y'all have lied before and y'all have betrayed our communities before.
I wish you'd put yourself in the shoes of people BEING STARVED while LOCKED UP in a concentration camp, seeing their loved ones as bags of bones and depending on strangers to raise funds and feed their kids Of course they'll mass follow and send the same message to multiple people
Yeah because they are being killed and desperate, what the fuck are you on?
The underlying cause is a genocide. That's more important.
I see those networks too… mostly of Kenyans sharing the same handful of PayPal links with obviously Bantu/Swahili names… not gofundmes which get closed if there is even a hint of doubt. You people are so plainly dishonest and full of shit and you lack even the respect to bother lying well.
Maybe in the case of GENOCIDE appeals or reports there could be an exception.
There should be an exception for scams? The vast majority of Palestinian “fundraisers” are scams being run by Cambodians in Chinese scam farms or Nigerians. They take advantage of tragedies, from natural disaster relief to Ukraine to Palestine.
Still waiting on you to either provide evidence or delete this shit.
Evidence, or shut the fuck up.
Still waiting.
"The vast majority of Palestinian “fundraisers” are scams being run by Cambodians in Chinese scam farms or Nigerians." Live up to your name and provide evidence, bitch.
Respectfully, the scammers are going to be making the same claims as the real people. If there was anything you could put in your profile or messages that reduced a risk of being banned, they would be using it as well.
✅ verified by Molly Shah ✨
And a scam organization is in a position to test multiple strategies at once, see which evades bans longest, and then start running more with that approach. They can find and exploit exceptions quickly and at scale in a way real people can't.
The BlueSky policies of disabling Palestinian accounts is why Palestinian operate multiple accounts. This is frickin' obvious.
What you are fighting is a russian KGB desinformation compain called #ActiveMeasures
Active measures is ment to destroy the reality to a point where no conclusion and no majority opinion in a society can be found. Democracys will then collaps. #ActiveMeasures bsky.app/profile/ducu...
I hope you’re applying that policy consistently to other entities such as rightwing disinformation networks who use similar tactics.
What you said definitely applies to politicians Politicians have 2 accounts neither of which they operate themselves while soliciting They have millions of followers and resort to bots to keep numbers up They keep lying to the public about the work they're doing Where's the accountability?
في بعض الحالات، كشفت التحقيقات عن شبكات يدير فيها الأفراد العازبون مئات الحسابات التي تشارك في الرسائل المجمعة، والردود المتطابقة عبر المحادثات غير ذات الصلة، والمتابعة الجماعية - السلوكيات التي تعطل تجربة المنصة لجميع المستخدمين بغض النظر عن السبب الكامن وراء ذلك.
think on the palastinians youve killed with your actions safety guy, or does that get you off
In some cases.
They are disrupting the “experience” because they are fucking starving to death
If I was starving to death and donations could feed me and my children another day I’d spam the shit out of any website.
This is more about organised crime pretending to be or know someone starving to death, and convincing well-meaning dupes to help them rip off donors by breaking multiple laws.
I support anyone's right to cry out for help and be heard
When we identify these patterns, through a combination of signals that may not be publicly visible to users, we first provide warnings and opportunities for users to adjust their approach. We suspend accounts as a last resort. 4/8
Speaking from personal experience, this is categorically untrue
So do you use human oversight or just let the bots mod using an algorithm? I can't say my priority under constant bombardment would be "does my account seem too bot-like as I frantically copy/paste posts before the signal drops or my battery dies". Have you bothered verifying any of them?
Well that appears to be wholly untrue and there doesn't appear to be an "appeals" process or all of these people wouldn't just keep making new accounts
عندما نحدد هذه الأنماط، من خلال مجموعة من الإشارات التي قد لا تكون مرئية للجمهور للمستخدمين، فإننا نقدم أولا تحذيرات وفرصا للمستخدمين لتعديل نهجهم. نقوم بتعليق الحسابات كملاذ أخير. 4/8
My ass. You've been deleting account after account that my friend Sara, a 16-year-old girl in Palestine, has been trying to create. You deleted the last one just 10 minutes after she made it! What "warnings & opportunities" did you send her in that 10 minutes? chuffed.org/project/1285...
Fucking liar
No. You systematically suspend accounts. Last resort is bullshit.
I wish you'd ban more spambots faster
In other cases, when our moderation team detects bulk networks of accounts working to target Bluesky users and exploit goodwill towards crises, we take action to suspend these accounts. 5/8
في حالات أخرى، عندما يكتشف فريق الإشراف لدينا شبكات مجمعة من الحسابات التي تعمل على استهداف مستخدمي بلوسكي واستغلال النوايا الحسنة تجاه الأزمات، فإننا نتخذ إجراءات لتعليق هذه الحسابات. 5/8
Can you do something about this network then? bsky.app/profile/acab...
Separately, some forms of solicitation for Bluesky users to share their bank account details with unknown third parties may expose users to serious financial and legal risks. While we understand the urgent desire to help, these posts are in violation of our Community Guidelines. 6/8
This is nonsense. Nobody is doing this that I have seen. Nobody from Gaza anyway. There are always regulated and verified funding sites attached.
mommunism was doing this
I have no idea what that is.
it's an account on here, I would have mentioned them but they are banned right now (because of this I believe)
Okay. But the accounts who are going through proper channels with regulated and verified funding options are also being banned.
it's none of your business what we want to give money to.
God damn y’all are bad at this.
Has this literally ever happened or are you addressing a misunderstanding of how Gaza GFMs work?
Are you saying “Go Fund Me” is an unknown 3rd party?
No, they're talking about something you haven't personally seen
So people whouldnt be threatened for using know tps? Great! Everyone is all good.
She’s not doing it this way because she’s doing something legal, Warren.
For telling people different ways to help? Thats speech bruh. That's allegedly still specifically allowed at least where she and I live. Sorry about whatever you have going on.
That’s not speech. It’s entrapment. She openly said it multiple times. Stick your dick in the meat grinder to make Molly Shah a millionaire as you please.
"A millionare” ??? Ok buddy. Having followed these fundraisers you sound ridiculous.
Gazans need support, but what will they buy with $$, given there is no food, supplies or medical care? They need political advocacy, protests & letters to US/Qatar/Jewish leaders. As a financial crime expert, I would bet 90% of requests on SM are from scammers pulling at heart strings. Careful!
Hey, thanks. Um, I don't claim to know what kind of legal vulnerability Blue Sky has if the instigator of this particular plan continues to solicit on here, or if Section 230 covers it, especially in this environment. I don't suppose we get to vote such CG violators off the island, here
mostly I'd hate to see this platform get zotted on account of this person.
get rid of the crypto losers and leave the gazans alone, they suffer enough without you all making their lives even more hellish
NO ONE WAS DOING THIS this is a game of telephone gdi
Molly Shah repeatedly asked her followers to do it so I’m not sure why you think it isn’t happening
cuz that's a total mischaracterization what she asked her followers to do
She’s not skipping her personal involvement because she thinks it’s safe. She’s entrapping other people and idiots like you are demanding they march up to the wolves and demand to be eaten.
shes not doing that. you're jumping into this half-cocked. also fuck you
for any smart alecks reading: the "receivers" Molly's talking about in this post are GOFUNDME RECEIVERS. she is offering to connect people in countries GFM operates in with vetted, real people in Gaza. There is no "unknown third party" here you are jumping to conclusions over a contextless screencap
vetted to the standards of KYC laws?
If that were true why doesn’t she feel confident enough to risk herself on this perfectly legal, safe, above board behavior?
youre inferring she's not a receiver because of risk why dont you ask her yourself instead of continuing to rumormonger about it
She said it right here, and you dipshits are demanding the wolves eat you. You are officially doing and encouraging actual harm here just like she is.
you dont know what the hell youre talking about but you sure arent letting that stop you from calling other people stupid literally read the entire post you just shared. like not just the part you highlighted. go find the actual post and read it in context, a few times, before insulting me again
She is 100% doing it because of risk. She outright said it.
Since when is GoFundMe an "unknown third party"? They are in fact well known and highly regulated.
Buddy, if she was actually doing what you say, why is she only asking other people to do it but very loudly noting she won’t do it herself? You see nothing suspicious here?
Not exactly seeing how "said she hasn't done it" translates to "loudly noting she won't do it".
Like, I've seen loud replies on this website, and that's not one.
She outright said the receivers would be at risk and then said she wouldn’t be one.
If she’s not doing something illegal why wouldn’t she proudly say she was as an example? You have no business lecturing MAGA on failing to see obvious cons when you see nothing wrong here.
So if this method of trying to help people experiencing a genocide must be banned because of its potential for abuse, what safe and effective alternative do you propose? I'm seeing a lot of "alas, we have to prevent this way of helping" and not a lot of "here's how you can help."
& Chuffed.org has an account here too
Exactly. Unless the moderation team is deciding to ban crowdfunding, this rationale seems very flimsy.
agreed. & even if someone volunteered to be a receiver and was urged to use a platform not well established, or made them uncomfortable, backing out and reporting is totally a thing. 🤷♂️ the entire situation feels like a pile of excuses for poor behavior.
They're not talking about the GoFundMes. They're talking about recruiting people to forward money from their personal bank account overseas.
Because Molly and her team block anyone who replies to them with even slight disagreement, so I’d going to post this here so someone sees it. It’s actually a short 🧵: I think they just enjoy creating BlueSky drama most of all.
bsky.app/profile/momm...
Maybe it wasn't really a GoFundMe? Things can be faked. I mean, what's your contention here? Bluesky is secretly an arm of the Netanyahu government?
That particular person was advocating people share their bank account info and structure payments so as to minimize reporting (the latter of which is a crime in and of itself), it has nothing to do with GFM being an intermediary at some point
wrong
oh my actual god bsky.app/profile/ens0...
They are! but if someone, hypothetically, were asking people to act as a go-between between GoFundMe and the ultimate intended reciever-- People that *do not know each other*-- Then there is an unknown third party in the chain.
Basically: If, say, someone said "I need you, Person 2, to to recieve funds from this GoFundMe into YOUR personal bank account, then send them on to Person 3, who you do not know, who is the intended charity recipient"---
Person 1 is asking Person 2 is taking on a *shit ton* of legal liability that they may not be aware of. EVEN IF Person 3 is completely legit and the money never makes its way from Person 3's hands to some other entity that *DOES* have sanctions against them.
because even if you *aren't* actually doing money laundering, if you *LOOK* like you are doing money laundering? Banks can get spooked, and put your name on a "Do not bank" list (No conviction needed!), and basically *remove your ability to open accounts almost fucking anywhere*.
Gofundme is not an unknown third party and does not expose to serious financial and legal risks, cut the crap now.
Are you seriously saying that suggesting that people use gofundme is against your terms and conditions?
I understand getting confused and making a mistake about what was actually being suggested. But refusing to change your position when it's been explained, and doubling down on a pretty serious allegation about gofundme and their policies and practices is ridiculous.
No, that's not what they're saying. Molly Shah is blatantly money-laundering gambling on people like you being willing to stick your head in a noose while she's talking about what a nice lever she has on this shiny new gallows.
I'm glad she's talking to lawyers about this.
They are not saying that. Read again!
They are taking moderation action on this basis against people who are talking about using officially regulated and approved gofundme processes to act as intermediaries for fundraising campaigns on the platform.
bsky.app/profile/momm...
That's not what the moderation action is for. It's for encouraging sharing bank info with unknown third parties (says it in the skeet and in the moderation email). It does not say or mean donating to a GFM
That's the problem. They have taken this action against people who have only talked about using GFM.
بشكل منفصل، قد تعرض بعض أشكال التماس مستخدمي Bluesky لمشاركة تفاصيل حساباتهم المصرفية مع أطراف ثالثة غير معروفة المستخدمين لمخاطر مالية وقانونية خطيرة. بينما نتفهم الرغبة الملحة في المساعدة، فإن هذه المنشورات تنتهك إرشادات مجتمعنا. 6/8
THEN WHY ARE ALL THE CRYPTO ACCOUNTS STILL FUCKING HERE?
because that's not how moderation works? you serious?
What do bank accounts have to do with crypto accounts
Out of curiosity, do you mean users who talk about crypto a lot, or bots shilling crypto in replies, or both?
i made a new crypto currency called demon girl coins
Wouldn't it be "Winning PersonalityCoin"
Didn't Jesse Singal violate your community guidelines, @safety.bsky.app? Like, yeah, let's follow the ToS 100% of the time. Instead of carving niches in the rules when it's convenient for you.
the reason he wasn't ever banned is because nobody was ever actually able to point to a post of his that violated the community guidelines
Crossposting screenshots of trans people’s skeets to Twitter and asking Twitter users to harass and dox them is a community guideline violation.
people have a lot of colorful descriptions of the things that jesse singal did that violated the community guidelines, but nobody ever actually points to an actual individual post that did so.
Are you saying Jesse Singal didn't do what @thomasav.bsky.social alleged? Or are you creating the situation where one has to re-victimize the trans person to prove the point?
gee it's almost like his tactic is operating with plausible deniability i would say announcing he wanted to "colonize" bluesky with "normal people," circumventing blocks to screencap & outrage farm for his podcast, and his entire history w/r/t the trans community casts a dim light on his intentions
Here bsky.app/profile/rvbd...
Do you support trans people?
You are sick bastards. Just genuinely evil people. Feel some fucking shame.
Lmao you people. "Please don't tell people to commit financial crimes on our platform" is now evil. Y'all are completely unhinged.
They're not financial crimes, even in the jurisdiction where US law applies, which is solely the US. You're a moron
YaLl Lmao go away yank i think theyre saying the pledge of allegiance somewhere go and salute the flag 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
No
Howdy howdy yeehaw
No matter how many people you reply to, people aren't going to stop giving to people who are currently starving. You pathetic inhuman snivelling little loser.
I think you need more flags in your username imo
I think you need some friends.
Boo! You suck! Get better material!
and yet crypto accounts galore. y’all are full of it and clearly just hate palestinians. gofundme has vetting processes and as users we are allowed to donate to whomever we please outside of bluesky. are you going to start banning small business owners too?
Posting links to gofundme is not financially or legally dangerous. This is a bullshit reason.
If you want to help the victims in Gaza, you can donate to the Red Cross.
I'd rather put money directly into the hands of people trying to survive
I understand the desire, but that route is fraught with danger. It's difficult to know who's a scammer and who isn't. If your money makes it to Gaza, it's difficult to know where it'll end up; if it's the wrong organization or gets moved through a third party, it could carry massive legal risks.
Great. That's not up to you or anyone else to decide "wrong organization" means "brown people I don't like"
You do you. 🤷♂️ Nobody is telling your otherwise, just presenting the potential risks.
Well when you get scammed don't come crying on Bluesky.
You mean those that are fortunate enough to have an IMEI.
I'm not sure what your point is
The point is that individual donations don't reduce the number of dead Gazans. Organizational donations, on the other hand, do.
Is Israel allowing the Red Cross to get aid into Gaza?
Because this is the fundamental problem. I have no problem with the Red Cross; they are a trustworthy organization and donations to them are safe, and they have a good position when it comes to Gaza. But Israel is blocking all the aid organizations from getting in.
Is GoFundMe?
It is, in fact, easier to get money across the Internet than it is to get aid trucks past the Israeli blockade, yes. There are complications, but crowdfunding is more successful at getting at least monetary resources to Palestinians right now.
And is there evidence of this?
Or World Central Kitchen. Doctors Without Borders.
did the red cross ever build all those houses in Haiti btw
the red cross who famously has any kind of access to Gaza sure yes
Literally no on is doing that you fucking clowns. For goodness sake get your act together before you prematurely kill this platform. You already are on thin ice after the whole Jesse Singal bullshit.
We can’t get every moderation decision right, which is why we maintain an appeals process. We encourage anyone using Bluesky for fundraising to focus their efforts through authentic accounts that follow our community guidelines. 7/8
You can't even get *most* moderation decisions right.
Have they gotten any right?
at this point, we basically just don't believe you. you don't care about safety you guys just care about pushing your agenda and making sure that the userbase you're trying to court doesn't have to feel uncomfortable. it's really upsetting how badly y'all have squandered the Goodwill you once had
Have you guys considered getting *some* moderation decisions right?
I contacted your moderation team, there was no reply. There was no response to my appeal.
Ban Jesse singal for hate speech you stupid bitch
Can’t get any decision right it seems like! Stupid fucks
Stop banning accounts that fight fascism and racism. That's no „controversy" it's necessary to save democracy.
Try getting even ONE right
you suspended me for 24 hrs and didn't explain why. I did send an email asking so I could delete any offensive posts!
Y’all are so full of bs it’s disgusting
You have suspended accounts even of people who went far out of their way to avoid being accused of spamming, and people who had been verified by @mommunism.bsky.social, who goes to great lengths on this. I don’t believe you. Why can’t Bluesky show any evidence as to why people were suspended?
Mommunism is an enabler and gets widely auto-blocked because no, she’s not an independent 3rd party verification service like ID.me. Nobody should be following her advice on work arounds to donate. Instead donate to World Central kitchen. wck.org
Girly this speaks to me as you need more personnel and a case study of why there is censorship outside of " oh it's just moderation" before someone else caughts you with the hand in the cookie jar for being greedy and manipulating information cuz I've seen a hell lot of ukrain support but not palsti
you changed your rules so a famous transphobe could use the site to harvest harassment targets, but in this case you take the most draconian interpretation and apply it extremely broadly. I just think that's interesting
I understand that ultimately your company is driven by capital and the need to flatter possible sources of capital, and I don't envy you the task of pissing on us and telling it's raining, but please understand that this tension you feel is the gentlest of a liar's tolls
ay bro bro you've got an obvious bot hive from the other site incoming asking for personal contact info of users verbatim as a means of committing fraud, I'm not sure you want to talk to banks as soon as you clock in wondering why, so get back to work and stop posting.
Get rid of the christofascists you statistical rapist.
The reason I never made my social platform public is because I didn't want to deal with moderation; that stuff is subjective & would require a massive community effort Clearly you didn't consider this when making the platform You just want the prestige of having millions of users without the work
You can't get any*** moderation decision right
Good set of accounts to preemptively block in the replies here.
You have so far made zero correct decisions
Could you at least try getting some of them right one of these days?
لا يمكننا الحصول على كل قرار اعتدال صحيح، وهذا هو السبب في أننا نحافظ على عملية الطعون. نشجع أي شخص يستخدم Bluesky لجمع التبرعات على تركيز جهوده من خلال الحسابات الأصلية التي تتبع إرشادات مجتمعنا. 7/8
I definitely get that moderation IS challenging and that you won't get every decision right, but the way you're tracking this unfortunately leads to continuously making those wrong decisions over and over again and then falling back on this statement.
lol WHAT appeals process
Clearly you have work to do cause you are very far from what you pretend justice is. Many of the accounts you blocked have been verified by relatives overseas.
Then why are they reaching to a German hick to panhandle and not their relatives?
Most of them are going through relatives. You can verify this anytime. Bad faith.
No they’re not. According to Molly the Entrapper they make contact with her alone with the same identical profile pics of the only two humans out of millions and the same two stock photo profile pics.
« They » ?
They as in these Palestinians who elect not to confirm their survival to their relatives but to use a hick German as a go between at complete random for no reason whatsoever. Out of literally everyone on the planet.
You seem to get most of them wrong.
That’s what they’ve been doing. Why respond if it’s just going to bullshit skirting accountability for your lack of empathy for people experiencing an active genocide. The stream of underage, spam bot, csma, crypto accts and every other bot remains cause you’re zoomed in on potential scammers.
We appreciate your support as we continue to work to make Bluesky safe and enjoyable for our users. 8/8
Thank you for looking after us.
0/8 from me, mate
Thank you!!
Your entire safety team sucks ass, is overly prudish about nudity, and is happy platforming transphobic and Islamophobic hate speech. You do not deserve support.
*Prudish about feminine nudity.
Would you believe a post of mine of God and Adam was labeled because Adam's micropeen was visible?
I don't think you have any support
You changed your own rules to let Singal stay despite your entire community asking you not to.
I'm amused by the implication that even Singal wants Singal to go
just too much of a coward to do it himself, y'know
"Log off" -Bluesky Team
gotta be complicit in as many genocides as possible
And when the 🌊🌊🌊 follow-back zombies showed up they changed their rules too. Gotta be accepting of different cultures, like people who follow 25k accounts in 1 month to help build a DNC spam network
Following every account on bluesky used to get you called a "power user" by the devs in the first year or two of the site
remember
Not true, accounts like Singal’s make this platform a better place.
No, they don't.
No they don't. Fuck Jesse Singal.
also he's a transphobe and a pedophile
youtu.be/YgSPaXgAdzE?...
Do you think sharing a cool song is landing some sick burn or has the transphobia progressed far enough to leave you totally unaware of your actions
Which was bad but also there isn’t a whole system of laws around banning Jesse Singal.
Grow the fuck up
I looked at your feed and all you do is cry about things you don't understand
White
eat my shit and hair
go back to fark
Suck a fart out of my ass.
Eat my asshole with a spoon.
gargle piss
Eat a biscuit and enjoy it
i would also be angry at the world if i looked like that
Fuck yourself with sandpaper
Stop aging. Now.
you can't spin you way out of responsibility for actions we've all seen you take, you worms
Your moderation team is a joke.
You're literally making it less safe by removing lists that protect people from bigots and sex pests.
So you are getting rid of the pro-genocide folk and the anti-trans activists who are actively pushing hate and murder?
hi - couldn't find another way to contact you'all. wanted to point out a few of those listed on the maga list have account names like ihatetrump and trumpcanFoff etc. might be good to double check it and make sure some folks that really don't like the current admin haven't been listed by mistake.
Appreciate your honesty and integrity! Let me know if I can be of service #Florida and #Michigan #NothingButBluesky from now on... ♡
Just say you hate Palestinians. It's a whole lot less words.
You people are so full of shit it's unreal.
Thank you. I've blocked a ton of fake accounts. Please block me if you think accounts asking for money are honest when it is not possible to buy your way out of Gaza.
I assume some are honest and some aren't, but I've always wondered how the money gets to folks when there is no infrastructure to speak of. For those that are valid (not trying to buy their way out, but trying to buy food), how are they getting the money? I'm not challenging them so much as curious.
Pretend they're Jesse Signal and protect them as if they hated trans people.
They dont want us to get too political, but they sure are! #wearewatchingthem
Oh hey. Fuck y'all. Thanks for erasing another round of Palestinians that can only be explained by y'all are fucking racist.
It took many *months* of mockery and the ridicule for banning legit accounts and this is what you come up with? If distinguishing fakes from legit accounts is so hard maybe use that shady blockchain fund money to hire more moderators
This. Also I strongly believe it wasn’t a great idea to rehire someone from Xitter as the head of the mod team. Neither the automation nor the manual approach seem to be working consistently, with several types of content flagging and moderation.
Well, Bluesky started out as a Twitter side project and the ceo's previous work was developing cryptocurrencies so it's not so shocking
@unroll.skywriter.blue Please under, thxs
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I'm grateful. Keep up the good work 👏
Keep up the good work. BMS does an amazingly good job at suspending scammers once they are reported, given the thousands of scam accounts on Bluesky. There are a lot of Gaza scammers. I wish that BMS could provide us with better guidelines for what to put in reports when reporting scams.
You are loathsome sacks who are actively participating in the targeted harassment of Palestinians in Gaza and that fact remains clear no matter how much you pretend otherwise or unfairly take down accounts of people who call you out on it.
Are you saying they SHOULDN’T take down scammers who prey on the situation and impersonate actual victims? This is exactly the problem with GFM appeals, that they’re terribly vulnerable to abuse, and grossly inefficient and inequitable. The better-connected account gets more money, just because?
Honestly even if a significant portion of the various cash drives ends up being scams, so Iong as it's not a vast majority of scams (and it's not), the effectiveness of direct cash aid to the needy makes it worthwhile. Focus less on truthering every person asking for help and more on helping.
I said nothing of the sort which leads me to conclude that you are deliberately arguing in bad faith because I do not believe your reading comprehension could possibly be that bad and actually if you knew anything about GFM you’d know they err on the side of excessive verification, if anything, Bob.
My guy, GFM is a really bad example for you to cite because they have EXTENSIVE fraud protection and do extra vetting on every fundraiser that mentions Gaza.
You have my support, big thanks 💙
big talk from the people who can't stop kissing jesse singal's ass
This is hilarious. You assholes are racist pieces of shit who love genocidal zionists and transphobes. You will never erase the stain of what you have participated in and enabled.
You should quit in protest.
Block: @djmiya.bsky.social
Hey, if you want to make Bluesky safe, why did you delist @marzgurl.com's "Vic stans" blocklist for unhinged fans of the R. Kelly of anime, who actively and tirelessly harass her, and folks who to dare criticize a sex pest who literally had auto-locking doors nicknamed after him at Funimation?
No really - why did you delist her mod list, when these harassers were so bad that the judge on this case was threatened by them, and had to drag the counsels in to figure out what the fuck was going on and force mediation between both parties? Please, do tell.
I would also like to understand why they did this
the very least you could do to make this site safer is ban Jesse Singal
Lol
like, this isn't even a controversial stance, unlike the banning of Gazan account. Jesse Singal is a threat to all the trans people on the site *and* he takes the shit he stirs on here to other sites to mock and degrade people who are rightly outraged at him.
Scams should be banned. Did you not read?
ban Jesse singal
Why should I believe anything you'd said here about how rules & user safety matter when you changed the former to compromise the 2nd in order to allow Singal to stay despite near universal outcry to do otherwise and your rules specifically saying he needed to be banned?
You are a Collaborator, Nazi scum.
Insisting that you're perfect and people have just misunderstood doesn't make you more trustworthy. It does the opposite.
You must've read a different thread. Nowhere do they claim to be perfect. Or perhaps your lack of reading comprehension caused you to read that because they didn't say what you wanted them to say.
Well, given that every single Gazan account seems to get removed they seem to be perfect at something.
You're assuming that they're perfect and I must have misunderstood them 🙃
This post is so condescending it reeks
It’s implied. They don’t recognize their systematic mistake.
It's very much not enjoyable when you've weaponized a hostile labeling system Like in what post Holocaust world do you think it's normal behavior to be publicly labeling accounts because of your subjective feelings? You think it's a good experience to mislabel honest people as "spam"? Do you?
The first every engagement I got on this site was from a Zionist who immediately attacked me for saying #FreePalestine I had few followers, few posts and they still managed to find me And you did nothing about it And you continue to do nothing about it We radicalize BECAUSE you don't protect us
"make Bluesky safe" lmfao I turned off comments last year because of the rampant Nazism & Zionism on this site You can't make a post without a bunch of them you've never interacted with jumping down your throat from nowhere Meanwhile, when I post my art every now & then, it's crickets "safe" lol
Right. It immediately biases people's opinions of that person. And if Bluesky is WRONG and mislabels someone, they have potentially tarnished that person's social standing with no consequences for it.
Right here Thembo is part of your concern. This account is affiliated with other accounts spamming and posting about others. Please look at this account. Thank you 🙏
Give me a break. You’re a joke. I’ve received FOUR follow farming lists for following back people who have followed me. Are you going to start disappearing people?
Report and block them. Do not interact. At least Bluesky is trying; not like some we know about😡who actually encourage this. 💙
Hey how about you step off policing lists used to protect the community from known harassers like Karl says
We need tools to stop trolls who open tens of accounts to harass specific users. Blocklists and moderation are late.
Are you going to post this in Arabic?
Why? The scammers know how to read.
No one forces you to donate.
molly shah reads english
Why would it be posted in Arabic? The scammers aren't.
What part of scammers are taking advantage of real people with real aid accounts is it that you misunderstood about the thread they posted?
Basic decency.
Good job BlueSky lol.
نحن نقدر دعمك بينما نواصل العمل لجعل Bluesky آمنا وممتعا لمستخدمينا. 8/8
This sucks, go back to looking at barely legal porn and gooning at work, Aaron. You're terrible at your job and this website would literally be better if your entire team wasn't even here.
@pompadourprincess.bsky.social following you just for the screename lmao
Thank you.
does anyone there actually believe this horseshit
Unfortunately, I've seen quite a few in the comments. I don't know about the safety team themselves, but I doubt it.
You are actively and directly helping kill Palestinians and you love it
They are not. They are protecting rubes from possible criminal charges and a loss of funds to grifters. Good god. There are ways to help still available. Doctors Without Borders. UNICEF remains on the ground there. When shipments resume, they will need funding.
You are an evil person and I hope you get everything you wish for others
Unless they’re Palestinian or someone Jesse Singal has defamed, right?
This entire thread is fucking SUS because we KNOW real people are having their accounts disabled. @jay.bsky.team why is @safety.bsky.app racially targeting Palestinians?
You might want to read the thread again. They explicitly say that not all of their decisions are going to be accurate. Also that there are specific behaviors that will get the accounts of real people disabled. And your link is the BS they are responding to.
shitter kevin
The thread is full of deceptions and half truths and outright lies
I just keep thinking about the real people @safety.bsky.app is hurting. And I QUESTION if this same amount of effort is being applied to non-Palestinian scammers, bigots, transphobes.
can confirm! not only real people, but people explicitly in Gaza.
Like @jay.bsky.team's team is shutting down accounts of Palesitnians who posted videos REPLYING to accusations that they're scammers. @wired.com @404media.co please, ask @safety.bsky.app why are are Palestinians verifying their existence getting lumped in with scammers?
you have yet to make any element of this site safer and actively cater to bigots. piss off.
Falsestine as a whole is a terrorist scam
Hi there - my account which is legitimate and my lifeline to survival has been labelled as Spam - I have appealed to the moderators: is there anything else I can do?
this is such obviously a load of shit & u guys suck
Right now Bluesky is losing points in my book and it look just as Twitter when they decided only right wing could speak.
hey @safety.bsky.app Transphobia isn't freedom of speech! bsky.app/profile/them...
It isn't enjoyable, and Palestinians aren't safe here.
Scammers aren’t safe here. Scammers identified using triangulation of data.
fuck offfff
Reported as a misleading post
Glad to hear you have rules. Get back to us when you stop breaking them for large accounts with clout leverage.
I've watched you suspend verified and well known Palestinians on here with my own eyes. Want to try this again but adjust the story so its a little more believable?
TL;DR We're gonna keep doing exactly what we're doing and pretend lots of genocide victims are lying about arbitrary bans.
this is all such a lie, you dont give people any notice, you have deactivated so many friends of mine for nothing with no notice at all
Except Palestinian users, right?
gofundme is not an unknown third party congratulations on collaborating with the genocidaires bsky.app/profile/safe...
Gofundme isn't the 3rd party being referred to here
This entire crisis shows the need for more clear rules regarding asking for donations and such. We need Bluesky Safety to provide an option to mask users that excessively (ab)use mentions at strangers, unrelated replies and use of unrelated hashtags. This is a good alternative to banning.
The use of unverified payment sites should also receive mute type mask warnings. Neither should receive bans. BlueSky should only use bans for egregious offenses like severe bigotry.
I know there are humans behind these words. Please deeply consider what you are saying and why, and what you are doing and why. You have the power to resist.
congrats, I think you effectively covered every random excuse the libs are giving for not supporting starving Gazans. no change, no improvement, just latching onto rumours with no evidence. great work. you've really made it as a company now.
Looks like the libs found this reply already. Watch out, they might attack you with the hundreds of unfunny meme images that they think are somehow equivalent to actual resistance and activism
Look, if I read tons of posts stating that they are right now in gaza, starving to death with literally nothing left than bare skin, I *do* wonder how it comes they apparently still have a phone an still power socket to charge it and still an internet connection.
Some have access to phone charging stations. I know because one was recently bombed, killing some children. You can’t eat your phone.
I've donated to e-sim funds for Gazans, my games have been in game bundles for buying e-sims for Gazans as well. Not everyone is an apathetic little shit on the internet
Fool defends being parted with money, more at 11.
You played hockey before the mandatory helmet rule, didn't you?
In other words, you don't give a shit about Gaza and you're exploiting them to own the libs, like MAGA does.
There are plenty of ways to send support to the people of Gaza without responding to some unknown person on Bluesky. Here are several places to give. The first 3 were checked out and sent to me by a Palestinian-rights activist 1. www.thesanabelteam.com
2. linktr.ee/thesameerpro...
You sound precisely like a scammer. Sorry the BlueSky folks are harshing your mellow.
And the fact they posted that thread at 3am ET...
Not taking a position either way on this specific person, but not everyone is in the eastern time zone of the US. If he’s in Europe, that’s 8 or 9 am. Hell, It would only be midnight in California. Probably mid-day in Australia.
If I post anything about trump on Facebook, I end up in jail and can't post or my posts are restricted. Blue sky is much better. I cannot stand Facebook or Zuckerberg. Or his gang of fucking losers.
you care about community standards? 😂
This is a lot of words to just say “we know there’s a problem but we don’t feel like doing anything about it” 😑
Cool, please actual let people use the lists they build to keep themselves safe, or stop fronting like community mod tools matter:
Please stop sentencing people to death
This would be easier to believe if bsky were actually moderating the reply-spammers. Currently the scammers appear to be operating with impunity, while the real charity appeal accounts get suspended.
Trolls at it again, trying to block me from Blue Sky.
I don’t have time to read bs! Stop supporting a genocide a silencing Palestinian advocacy!!
Thank you for putting in the work, it's appreciated. I'm sure these are shitty times for you any your team, but we're grateful.
Yeah, this is a good statement. Appreciate all the work they're doing.
You still run by that terf dude?
With all due respect, listen to the people calling you out right now.
You literally altered your policies to protect a bigot who's friends with staff.
*any moderation decisions
Then translate the community guidelines into Arabic
you’re a liar
When do you plan to start getting them right?
you allow countless troll accounts that have zero irl pics give me a break
Name one you've gotten right.
helo. can you please unban lana's original account. i tried emailing you about this and you said you don't do third-party appeals, so lana emailed you and never got anything back from you
one account banned for no reason is @lana-gaza.bsky.social
I'm sure moderation will make the right decision about this funny meme that keeps getting blocked for what it LOOKS like. Pls 🙏🏽 use HUMAN REVIEW- AI can't apply the nuanced human scrutiny to discern the diff b|w lookalikes HUMAN 👁️👁️ EYES can see a baby's feet NOT a penis sticking out of mum's skirt
How can users appeal when you don't respond to appeal requests? Multiple users (confirmed to be real ppl via pics, vid, and IRL contacts, & who are NOT engaging in spam tactics) have had accounts removed for "spam" with no response to appeals. Lovely words, but they don't reflect your actions.
So you elected to get almost all of them wrong, when it comes to Palestinians. Cool👍
With regards to Palestinians, you don't even try and it's fucking obvious how racist you are. Fuck off with this shit.
you get like 90% of it wrong even when the test is open book.
What is the sanction for violating these community guidelines? Do the posts get deleted? Do users get suspended or removed for it?
If *I* started soliciting my followers to commit financial crimes, would those posts get deleted? Would I be banned? If so, why are the people actively doing this not being banned? Is there a follower/popularity threshold where if you pass it you’re immune to moderation?
I suspect there is I remember reporting a large account earlier this year that was telling people to kill themselves and they didn't even take the reported post down much less the account
The Louvre?
Exactly this! They're can't be separate sets of rules for big accounts vs smaller ones. Clear violation of rules should be dealt with uniformly.
No they don't. This is a wild lie.
Eat a pile of bloody shit.
That’s not gonna help any victims of genocide, Stove.
Get a plate of it yourself, Alison.
But that time and effort could be better used helping victims of genocide. You, though, have apparently not decided to do what Molly’s encouraging people to do and give money, seeing as you’d rather spend your money on baseball tickets.
They were free through my job. Any other dumbass assumptions you wanna make about my life?
Don't bother Alison. They don't actually care about Palestine they just want to feel morally superior to people
Bullshit. This is pure, unadulterated bullshit that you let the worst users on your site pressure you into.
As others have pointed out, being a receiver on a GFM is something the site actively encourages and does not require you to share your bank details with anyone!
When did any Bandersnatch participate in such a Jabberwock?
You are complicit in genocide and will be held accountable
Cool. Now do crypto scammers.
go fund me is not an unknown third party.
then why are there so many crypto accounts?
because again, moderation isn't instant or perfect. that's just not how anything works
They can slap down a half dozen Palestinians who've never spammed or mass dm'd within 15 minutes of signing up, so obviously it does.
definetely not the same thing, and i'm not even talking about that. This is just a general rule online: moderation is not instant or perfect
Out of curiosity, do you mean users who talk about crypto a lot, or bots shilling crypto in replies, or both?
the bots lol
thank you for telling people it's a bad idea to do money laundering for gaza
Drop the last two words. They seem to make people think that it's somehow justified.
A fair point. They think literally anything is justified for their cause.
Appreciate the proactive approach. Protecting user trust and safeguarding crisis moments from exploitation is crucial. Keep it up. 💙
but you don't explain to them what they've done wrong, specifically. I've seen so many of your emails to users in which you cite TOS without giving them examples of where and how they have broken the rules. If you don't explain to them how to remedy their behavior, how can they do so?
Bullshit! You're suspending vetted accounts at warp speed for no reason!
Just suspend those abusing multiple accounts directly and let them appeal, the softly softly approach is what got Twitter into trouble…🤨
Network epidemiology, behavioral role discovery, clustering algorithms, all of these algos are known. It’s not your IP. It’s not your trade secret. You do not own safety. True safety is open moderation, where everyone understands the rules, the stakes, the threats. ATProto is incomplete until then.🌀
Sounds like you operate on vibes & 'trust us, bro'.
What languages do you provide these warnings in?
If the scammers are posting in English, English warnings are sufficient…🤷♂️
This is really not true. I've done lots of international projects where google translate was fine for quick emails and texts but when it comes to the legal shit you always get a real translator. It's cheap for a real company!
They are scammers, they are doing illegal shit…🤷♂️
I work in crisis comms so I'm good at sorting out what a decent PR move would be here. If you're that sure it's all a scamming ring, you can look at the list of demands and do the easy ones that wouldn't lead to more, like boosting translations and response to appeals. 1/2
If they are posting scams in English, they can deal with the English terms and conditions. Few scammers bother with minority languages, the market isn’t big enough… 🤨
Sigh i'm starting to think you're a bot yourself with the way you're posting. How's the pho?
But it generally seems like these t&s peoples' bosses despise them, or they hate themselves, if they won't give them resources to do sort of basic stuff that would make people yell at them less. Even if it's more of a PR move than really helpful...there's a reason most companies do them. 2/2
The reason most companies do this sort of basic stuff is self protection, little to do with protecting people. Immediately banning suspected scammers on the other hand does a lot to protect people…
“for a real company!” what are you trying to sell?
? I mean it costs like $1,000. For most companies with anything more than a barebones budget it's an easy cost.
Terms of use continually change, there are literally hundreds of languages in the world! I think you may be underestimating the cost of maintaining the translations for a global platform…😬
People are begging for their lives and as they’ve done so, your safety and moderation team have shut them down repeatedly. Y’all helped create a situation where people needed to create multiple accounts just to have the presence on this app to beg for help.
wow damn bro, do you have any proof?
Huh, I wonder what could cause people literally begging for their lives to have multiple redundant accounts? Maybe something along the lines of their single accounts being squashed in a systematic attempt to brush genocide under the rug? Do better, you assholes.
Damn, a lot of hit dogs hollering with this post. Almost as if a bunch of liberals are trying to cover their guilt over doing nothing during a genocide with conspiracy theories about grand scamming-rings of starving Palestinians.
"I don't know how to read threads" they proclaimed proudly, wrestling off the people desperately trying to take the mic away from them, "I'm an oblivious idiot who assumes everyone is as bone-stupid as me!"
You’ve put your users in further danger by not actually taking the time to distinguish genuine advocacy from users feelings about seeing such advocacy on their feed. The practice of suspending and terminating the accounts of people asking for help has opened the door to multiple accounts being-
- made for the same person/people. That’s an obvious security issue as it becomes that much more difficult to determine who the real user is versus someone using their content to create a duplicate in order to scam and harass others. It’s a security issue that your security team helped create.
your moderation team is lying
You’re lying.
please, do explain how you designate the accounts of people asking for money because they genuinely need it vs the Palestinians.
Why don't you do shit about all the "crowdsourse weapons for Ukraine" scammers?
Except you keep deleting genuine accounts and marking them as spam despite them often being verified.
Even if these accounts were legit, which they mostly are not, there are better ways to support Gaza than throwing a few bucks at one family out of 2 million people while driving up prices in the market for the other 1.999 million.
Donating money to individual Gazans doesn't increase the amount of food in Gaza, just who gets the food already there. Donate to your local advocacy group, candidates and parties who actively support Palestine, and anything working to change the conditions creating genocide in the first place.
No you don't understand, it makes me feel more important if I trust a random spammer over an actual dedicated organization
No it's cool they're "vetted" How are they vetted? never explained. How is the money getting to them? never explained. You support the worst things humanity is capable of for questioning if donations are going into the right hands though.
i don’t think you are
Good… get rid of those horrible begging ass spam accounts.
why u so shitty
bsky.app/profile/benb...
Delete your account
You first!! lol since Palestinians are fighting your friends Hamas.
You mean the ones staged by the terror colony? You're an evil person
Pete Buttigeig sucks.
When did you decide you were pro genocide?
genocide is only really a problem when you have to see and hear the people experiencing it, after all.
Blah blah blah
i imagine that being one isn't important to you, but you're not a good person, Nisey.
Blah………blah………….blah
Piece of shit says what?
bsky.app/profile/benb...
“In defense of crimes that take advantage of gullible people to steal their money…”
Bluesky bans accounts of people i know for a fact are genuine, whose only requests are to donate through established third parties that have extensive security procedures and guarantee funds returned if there's fraud. You don't like seeing desperate people and want to pretend that's virtuous.
That YOU know. Do you think they employ people that spend a whole hour researching accounts for authenticity? Get real.
you know some people have relationships, right? like real-world relationships with breathing people who you have touched?
No shade, but your pinned is an ai image of that already dead 86/47 meme. Y’all and these corny memes are actually wayyyy more annoying than people crowd funding through a man made famine…
Blah blah blah
You guys have done the best moderation job of any current social media platform. You will never make everyone happy but you are going a long way towards making everyone safe.
18 months and thousands of people signing a letter about how badly yall are fucking up, and this is what you finally come up with. Pathetic
Capitalism breeds lies
Bullshit
I appreciate the work you're putting into this. It cant be easy.
Thank you for being the only real human person in the replies here. I swear every other one of these accounts is like, 100% politics and no normal human stuff
fellas, this whole thread is a lie bc we SEE DMs from deleted accounts that are real people who proved themselves. try again.
A lot of people are letting their emotions cloud their judgement. The vast majority of Gaza accounts are scammers and many of the 'trusted' accounts somehow all talk the same and look like people standing in front of a green screen. Sending money to a random account should be an obvious red flag.
Oh? I was aware of how they all talked the same, said the same general things etc but how did you figure out it was a green screen?
Again some accounts do appear legit, but I have seen some videos that look very questionable and blatantly fake. Clues that I look they don't move from their standing position Their bodies are slightly more focused than the background They don't interact with anything around them.
I see, thanks!
They sound similar because English is not their native language.
Just tell us you hate Palestinians and fuck off already.
This is the same language scammers use, try and elicit an emotional response to take advantage of others. It's deranged how you don't see it. I hate scammers, especially scammers who use a genocide to take advantage of gullible people like you into giving them money.
People are literally begging for their lives and you're dismissing them by default because of what language they use - A language that for most is not even their mother tongue, so they're likely using translations to help. You're telling others to think while you talk with an empty skull. Fuck off.
You're so painfully gullible. It's honestly sad. Do you actually think every Palestinian account in Blue sky is legit and none are scammers? Think for a second, yes there are legit accounts but if you think no one is trying to take advantage of gullible people like you then you're a fool.
"These few I've seen seem fishy because of the language, so I'm going to assume most are scammers." But I'm the gullible one here? Fuck all the way off. Muting you and your empty skull.
The few? The majority of them act like scammers. You're painfully gullible if you don't see it. There's nothing wrong with advocating for Gaza or wanting to help Palestinians but to ignore the blatant bots farms taking advantage of this genocide to prey on gullible people like you helps no one.
I urge you to look into the ID requirements for third party fundraising platforms like gofundme. Gofundme in particular is donation protected.
Gofundme can verify who the money goes to but if that person is in on the scam or are themselves being scammed then those protections Gofundme has are irrelevant if you never figure out you got scammed. I get wanting to help Gazans but blindly trusting every account is how scammers prey on you.
Receivers are a legitimized thing that gofundme does though & when identity is verified, it is not just the receiver but the person who the gofundme is for. Gofundme doesn’t operate in Gaza so they all have a receiver & it’s the Gazans that go through the primary identification process.
It's not a statement about Palestinians at all! The whole point is that the Gazans now suffering war and occupation are one group of people, and the replies we get here are an almost entirely different group of bots. It's trivially easy for the number of bots to overwhelm humans by a large factor.
“People enduring genocide wouldn’t go on social media and use whatever means available to beg for help, so they don’t die.” That’s how y’all sound.
It's possible that a google image search for "moon landing" will now be mostly AI, or perhaps that will become the case soon. If it is, the question "Can I trust these results?" is so obviously different from "Can I trust NASA that the moon landing happened?" Gaza is indeed experiencing war crimes!
^ Mossad agent
You're more than welcome to look at my post history and see what I post and repost. Gullible fools like you are a huge reason why scammers are such a problem.
wouldn't be a very good op if you were visibly boosting the open genocide enjoyers
Or maybe you're just a dimwit that got conned by scammers and are now trying to justify yourself. Your morals are in the right place, but your head clearly isn't.
I will continue to share requests unless I spot for myself that they are dubious and that's not easy. Can you make sure not to delete genuine requests for help and fo your best to remove the scammers?
Perhaps you could set up your own verification process. Not ideal I know but none of this is ideal is it?
This is so 🙄 more than 3 gazans I know personally received zero warnings. I dont think your process works as it's supposed to fam
Oh he knows. He's just running cover for it.
"other crisis areas" Gaza is the only place where people lost their jobs, income, workplaces, homes, CANNOT leave bc israhell closed their borders, keep bombing, them, sniping them, using drones to shoot and bomb them, WHILE KEEPING AN ILLEGAL BLOCKADE OF FOOD THAT CAUSES INFLATION
you don't understand shit aaron
very funny way of showing it, maybe less talk and more Not Being Scum
Restore Sakher he has never spammed me, we had real conversations and now he has lost these connections and lifeline. I have lost touch with many others simply because you continue to delete them and even worse you erase their private messages and historical posts so we can’t even find them. wtf
Weird lie but can you do me a favor and try to be even crueler to random people trying to help them eat nonspoiled food? I’ve got a made up legal theory to justify it if needed
🗽✌🏼🕊️🇵🇸
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Apparently people responding to this post haven’t received the 4,382 posts asking for you financial details. Come one people. There is a ton of scamage going on.
Do the people asking for banking information have legitimized third party accounts on fundraising platforms? Because fundraising platforms like gofundme a) don’t ask for that and b) are verified. Anyone asking for banking info should be reported. I am very involved & have NEVER seen this.
No. These are not go fund mes. And all y’all acting like it doesn’t happen I also call bullshit on.
Why are you treating Palestinians with registered gofundmes the same as people who message people asking for your bank information? Is it because you’re simply an unhelpful racist? I have been contacted thousands of times by Gazans since getting involved. Not a single bank request.
THESE ARE NOT GO GUND MES. How often are you goin to ask me this same damned question.
Can we see some screenshots? Like if you’re in the several thousands of them it shouldn’t be hard to produce some screenshots.
I was of course exaggerating but there have been days I blocked two or three. No I don’t not have screen shots because I block them as soon as they happen. You can go to hell if you don’t believe me. Do you think BS addressed this for funsies?
So you DON’T have receipts, Karin? That’s odd Karin. It’s almost like you’re exaggerating to sound important and aggrieved, Karin. Do you think the BlueSky Moderation Team is going to do something to get the people you don’t like out if your neighborhood, Karin? They don’t give a shit, Karin.
I don’t doubt that there may be the occasional scammer on here asking for bank details (though it’s never happened to me) but the point for me is that the vast majority are legit Gazans with verified identities who are being targeted & silenced
More than anything, I get Palestinians reaching out to ask me to donate to or share their campaign. Never had a single instance of being asked for any personal info. If these people want scammers to go after, Shaun King is right fucking there.
Enough until you run back to Twitter.
I asked you why you were treating them the same as people with gofundmes. This is the hill you are dying on when people who are involved are telling you that legitimate Palestinians with gofundmes are being targeted and silenced.
And neither have you.
Je partage votre analyse. I share your analysis.
Biggest bullshit I've ever seen.
Every time their account is deleted it feels to me like someone burning Anne Franks diary. These people are reaching out from the midst of a holocaust and their words and stories are just....deleted. Gone. Maybe their final words. That makes me upset and insanely angry
If they ask for donations, I'm someone who doesn't trust GoFundMe. I feel really bad in case they're legit, but I still say no.
Say no for yourself then. The rest of us would like to make our own decisions.
You're pro genocide. No one believes you but pro genocide liberals.
I really doubt it. First, find your pro genocide liberal. They are really rare.
here you go. bsky.app/profile/kate...
Progressive except for Palestinians. See Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer... Shall I keep going?
Mr Obama I'll concede as a liberal. The rest (and Obama himself) are from the US mainstream, a country with two primary political parties that are both more right wing than what I consider liberal. I cannot however recall Mr Obama cheerleading for genocide, or even coming close.
Tell that to Abdurrahman al-Awlaki. Wait, you can't. He was an American citizen killed at 16 years old, solely because of who his father was. Obama approved the drone strike. His grandfather wrote for the NYT. www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/o...
Terrible, but not genocide.
Every single American president since 1959, D or R, has sent weapons in aid to Israel to support Israel's 80-yeat Nakba of the Palestinians. Obama is no exception. Please do not tire me by asking empty questions.
Thank you for giving everyone a voice in their plight for justice.
Blood on your hands.
Thank you for addressing this. And for keeping users safe.
Worthless corporate horseshit. You are such spineless cowards.
bullshit.
Bullshit.
The odds that any of the users you are trying to appease will believe any of this is zero, since you won’t be able to show how you’re catching them because it’s mean they would know how to not get caught, and without evidence people will just declare you to be lying
The proof will be in evidence when / if they are able to stop the blatant, obvious scamming that has been flourishing while still allowing legitimate posts about Gaza. It will be an advantage to those who post about Gaza to not have their messages drowned out by obvious grifters.
Well, how do they tell the difference between a scammer and not one in a way that meaningfully works?
For me personally, it's mainly having read thousands of newspaper and magazine articles about computer security, cybercrime, and crime in general over the past 30 years. But don't take my word for it. Look at the quote post for one by @martin.kleppmann.com and check his bio.
In this particular instance, there are red flags. See the @martin.kleppmann.com post. There's the skirting of fundraising safeguards, the violation of social media guidelines meant to deter crime, the incessant spamming from a script, the reassurance that methods are legal, others.
The creation of multiple burner accounts created to exploit the same funding channel, the improbability that acquiring US$ would meet their stated goal, its similarity to previous monetary fraud and terrorist financing schemes. Off the top of my head.
It appears to involve money laundering. It appears to involve payment "structuring." According to several lawyers who opined on this today. If you're unfamiliar with what likely prompted this, search within Bluesky for "molly shah".
I’m familiar with Molly; my question is mostly how does bsky programmatically catch all the pig butchering call center people when their first move is probably to have the mark follow to a second location where they can discuss the stuff that would trip alarms in telegram DMs or w/e
Likely they don't. As rahaeli pointed out (before the conspiracy theorists decided the woman who damn near founded the T&S discipline is a sockpuppet and flooded her with death threats), volume is against them in both the overall number of accounts and the ratio of scams to legitimate fundraisers.
Gross volume means a lot of things have to be automated to keep up. That ratio (about 4:1 scams to legit, for all fundraisers, not just folks in Gaza—a point the conspiracy theorists have intentionally or ignorantly misconstrued) increases risk from false negatives and makes exceptions exploitable.
caping for the woman who's coercing her followers to commit financial crimes is crazy
I think that's beyond the scope of what Bluesky can do. I don't know if this scheme involves that level of sophistication. I think that's a separate discussion for another day. This is about grifters scamming off the Gaza situation who also happen to be drowning out legit discussion about Gaza.
Yeah, fair. At least for *me*, mass muting using the fundraiser link labeler does a pretty good job of keeping my feeds from being half copy pasted “please boost my pinned post” stuff, but not every post is subbed to that labeler
So I've spent too much time observing the damage that this scam campaign wrought on feeds I care about before I finally had to mute Gaza, gofund, and molly shah mentions. I haven't looked deeply into this scam campaign, but it seems to be one of getting people to donate small amounts of money ...
This seems to be a very long way of saying: by all means share the truth about what the Israelis are doing and your fears, but stop pestering users for money because, even when genuine, it's indistinguishable from scams and harms the Palestinians' cause and undermines their justifiable outrage.
Bluesky devs when someone tells them to ban jesse singal instead of banning a Palestinian mother with a missing eye and three children
Thanks to Aaron and your whole T&S team for doing this hard, thankless work. Really.
I knew it wouldn't take long for evidence of your lies bsky.app/profile/momm...
Please, just let us get scammed. We want to help people.
no you don't and no you're not. ban singal by the way sincerely, a 'small and useless part of your userbase' according to one especially incompetent member of your staff
Bullshit
Stop lying to us, liars.
Thank you! I get these scammers following me and asking for money if I get any tiny amount of engagement.
Israel is purposefully spurring the rise of antisemitism and it needs to stop immediately. Their genocide and holocaust waged against the Palestinians is bringing unsolicited harm to my jewish brothers and sisters who refuse to support the evils of that state - especially in their name. BDS Israel!
Hi. WHY I CAN’T SEE IN “FOLLOWING” ALL THE POSTS OF PEOPLE I FOLLOW? A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT!
What's this from?
A graphic novel series called SAGA.
Thank u ! I've heard of that actually and been meaning to check it out. It looks super cute
It’s a great series… but it can be emotionally heavy at times.
This response is honestly not enough. There are plenty of Palestinian accounts on here who follow every rule and still get targeted. We want to see pages reinstated and restrictions being removed from Palestinian accounts asap. It's not right to take their voices away
that is so very funny, Bluesky 😄😄 the most very loud birds flew by upon being compelled to think "Bluesky is a hilarious bad bitch"--it was quiet beforehand, so it is hilariously powerful. let's fucking actually end the Gaza genocide, Bluesky 💖
Good point this is an evidence from Gaza and around ereas what israel made
Care to comment, or are your racist asses just going to continue lying instead? bsky.app/profile/momm...
Molly Shah, who tried coercing her followers to commit banking fraud?
Source?
molly's own skeets? specifically the ones she's threatening to sue people over?
I'll have to take a look
Gaza Inhabitants resp their "friends" here (those with the melons) are putting a lot of people on "Zionist Scum" lists Please work on that too
I'm glad when the focus of the Bluesky moderation is to suspend the pali fundraising scams and that Bluesky isn't used by islamist terrorists and their supporters to fund their genocidal nazi agenda.
The fuck you do. You know we can see you right ‽ It’s bad enough that you’re putting your hand on the heads of drowning people desperately grasping air you have the audacity to insult us by lying like this too ‽ Placating assholes.
😂 at the way I saw "We deeply", "Gaza", and "we're committed" and immediately knew some bullshit was coming and went straight to the Quotes 🫠🫠
@mommunism.bsky.social
Not to mention, there could be Hamas, aka the terrorist group responsible for creating the "educational children's" show Tomorrow's Pioneers, which they're spreading their horrible word-of-mouth through (look it up, and you'll see what I mean).
The show ended in 2009 you lying piece of shit.
Nick Crowley on YouTube discovered that it was still airing, even after the 2010-2021 gap as of today. Though I couldn't find any proof, he did discovered it.
Receipts or it isn't true.
This (along with a new costumed character, which is a kid) is from one of the episode of a "newly aired" version of the series at the 1:24:43 timestamp: youtu.be/wk5iOTunvcM?...
Huh. I thought Cenk Uygur spoke a few years ago about how Farfour died. Do they just change the performer?
I'm not sure, but what I've heard is that Farfour is now a cartoon dog instead of a Mickey Mouse rip-off.
Fine.
With 50,000 Palestinian children dead by war, by starvation and freezing to death, it's good to discuss without getting bumped from a forum.
Dear BlueSky, can you clearly say, "It is BlueSky's goal to allow Palestinians to post fundraising appeals on BlueSky"?
bsky.app/profile/carl...
Dear BlueSky, do you have a written set of rules to provide Palestinians? Do you have an appeals process to allow individuals to contest that BlueSky is misapplying its written rules? Are the findings of this process publicly available?
Further questions for @safety.bsky.app: is BlueSky willing to release all communications from pro-Israel people relating to Palestinians and the conflict in Palestine from October 7, 2023 onward?
Whoops the company speaks and fucks up What a surprise Erase this Twitter 2.0 failed experiment and direct people to actual community out in true decentralized places in fedi
Can you please remove the Trump gifs I now see whether I search for Trump or not? This seems new. A search for a thumbs-up gif and other things gave me 10 or more Trump gifs each. Please STOP. If someone searches for Trump specifically, fine - they get what they asked for. Don't normalize him.
I don't believe you
Thank goodness for this safe space. The people need it.
no you aren't.
"Those Palestinians that many of you have had numerous conversations with for over a year? Actually scammers according to our advanced Are They Palestinian If Yes Then Ban algorithm. Your welcome!"
You've been absolutely scourging this site of Palestinians in need, even after demanding highly unusual proof of identity from some, so pretending that you've exercised any discretion is insulting to anyone who pays attention
Your moderation team wastes its time harassing Palestinians in Gaza, as if their lives weren't already hard enough! It's disturbing to witness. Please, rethink this choice. Here's your ticket: "Users at risk for their lives should be able to post repetitive messages without being flagged as spam."
i don’t think you guys are doing a very good job
are you committed to ensuring they can be heard on Bluesky? because the constant account suspensions for people who haven't broken any rules and are being reported solely based on their ethnicity really don't seem in line with that commitment!
do you really moderate? well to me this is highly subjective... you allow users to create blocklists that that don't justify the reason for blocking, make no mistake, I am certain after this I will soon be on one and if so will post that to prove my point.
If they want to be heard, why did they block me and accuse me of supporting genocide simply because I don't follow them?
And I repeat. bsky.app/profile/did:...
Fuck off you lying shitstain.
Totally agree with you.
poosky lies
Kim, there’s people that are dying
Go to Hell nazis
What about racists or bullies who hate on a person for no longer sharing Gaza accounts? A few could be bots. Yet you didn’t suspend the account of a half-German and half-Palestinian from Germany who was racist toward me and then she blocked me. Her name is Lexi Alexander.
@safety.bsky.app You really need to look into the mass reporting of Ukrainian accounts. This needs a human to spot what is going on. *ussian and *ussian supporters have been trying to silence Ukrainians for the past 3 years.
We can all see what's happening no matter how you try and sugar coat it. We aren't stupid.
Must be. I’ve gotten an assload of very obvious spam.
I'm sorry, but if you have the capacity to draft up 8 posts of devoid, corporate legalese You have the capacity to engage with the community and help vet accounts so we can get money to Gazans 8 posts of admitting you don't actually do your due diligence and that you're no better than Meta/Twitter
Thank you for your hard work to protect this community. お疲れ様です。
There's more of us than there are of you. And we can see you're either lying, or really really bad at it...
I too post unpopular takes in the dead of night
the head of T&S is in Ireland fyi
Didn't know, that makes a bit more sense.
this was posted at 8.11am in Ireland, where the head of trust & safety is?
That's good to know, and an assumption on my part. Another assumption on my part is, since it was first thing in the morning on a Friday, they posted this and immediately took a PTO day to not have to deal with it.
I thought we weren't supposed to judge posts by what time they're posted
lol touche
It's almost like people live around the world, in different time zones than you, including the employees of the part of BlueSky in charge of this sort of policy and communication 🤔
why should we trust you? you havent protected the sex workers who got this platform off the ground. you havent banned someone calling of the mass executions of trans people. why the fuck should we listen to you?
نحن نتفهم بعمق أن الناس في غزة ومناطق الأزمات الأخرى يحتاجون إلى منصات لتبادل تجاربهم وطلب الدعم، ونحن ملتزمون بضمان إمكانية سماعهم على Bluesky. 1/8
It’s difficult to trust a process you are not allowed to see and have ample anecdotes from Palestinians that this process isn’t always followed. I hope it can improve. People replying trying to re-direct aid to centralized sources in this thread do not know what they are talking about, clearly.
The problem is if they post whatever the details of their automated methods for catching scammer network accounts, the scammers improve. If they’re catching a lot of legit accounts too, that sucks, but there’s no way to win this game, just “try to find balance between user antipathy and safety”
None of what was described in this thread explains why real people who are not abusing the platform are being routinely banned that I can read?
It’s yet another instance of the Trust And Safety Problem, they have to make decisions to balance cost, user safety, and user satisfaction and there isn’t a perfect choice (unless they have infinite resources, maybe)
Can you point to specifically what decisions were made in their response that would account for non-abusive accounts of real live starving people to be banned aside from Israelis and American zionists mass reporting them and Bluesky capitulating? We went through this with the Jesse Signal gate:
I can certainly *speculate* but I’m just some guy; if you get me a log of reports and actions taken on specific IDs I can maybe cross reference that stuff with a firehose archive and that will probably make it pretty clear. Otherwise you won’t ever get the answer to this for reasons covered earlier
I have been consistently mass reported by the same groups of people and I am still here. I appreciate Bluesky’s due diligence on that front. I appreciate how hard their work is, but also that there are real flaws/vulnerabilities in their current policies. I think they’re under tremendous pressure.
Yeah, T&S is a sucky job, especially for anyone who “gets” to be the face of it for an organization because they’re basically a designated spearcatcher
User reporting is a low-quality data source and treated as such. More action likely comes from automation, which will focus on patterns like high volume and high similarity between posts.
Let’s be really honest with ourselves. White people who do not want to acknowledge a genocide is going on are made uncomfortable by solicitations from victims of the genocide that our countries are contributing to. It makes us feel like we have blood on our hands, because we do. Grow up help end it.
Lets be honest there are thousands of bot accounts profiting off of conflict.
I have yet to see one person credibly claim they were scammed. A minuscule amount of due diligence prevents it.
I think you nailed it Why are we reacting like 100s of ppl got scammed? If no one said they have been... Why are we deleting accounts? White ppl need to understand this is a witch-hunt and the historical implications. This be white ppl being racist and that's it.
How would you know afterwards that you'd been scammed? It's not like a scammer is going to msg back "thanks for the cash sucker!" They're going to keep a scam going for as long as possible.
A simple video call or donating to one of the verified accounts by 3rd party verifiers prevents it. Stop complicating something that isn’t complicated and if the $20 means that much to you, don’t donate.
How does a video call confirm it isn't a scam? All you're seeing is their face.
If you don't want to take the time to help... Thats on you. But if you need to make up wild fucking stories that ppl in an ongoing genocide are scamming you... Keep it to yourself. Bc there is 0 way for an appeal. 0. If bluesky wanted to, they could create an appeal process Yet... Here we are
It's not rocket science... It's humanitarian aid There is a difference between being cautious and barring everyone so you don't have to bother. I have many, many ppl messaging me daily. I'm not physically able to keep up bc of my disability... But I click on gofundmes and check shit out.
The exact same way I would anyone else looking for mutual aid. It's just. Palestine is experiencing a fucking genocide... There are thousands of ppl begging the world to stop sending bombs to Israel... If you can't donate. Or don't want to. Go to a protest There are plenty of ways to get involved
If there is no way to know, why would so many people be worried about there being scammers? Is probably a better question. If there's no way to know, there sure a lot of people who are absolutely certain that there is an epidemic of it.
Do you not think a community that gets this angry over any attempt to verify someone isn't a scammer would not be prime pickings for scammers? Every scammer in the world must surely be retargeting their business at this, it's the most gullible group around.
There are lots of legitimate, verified charities you can donate to and I would encourage you to do so. But donating to random individuals that you only know through online contacts that get extremely hostile when you ask them to verify is not wise.
It isn't wise. It's also not enough of a problem to warrant this much discussion. If people become hostile when you ask them to verify themselves, the block option on this site is the most effective I've seen. That solution existed here when Liberals were still pretending there was no genocide
We're on social media my friend, most subjects do not "warrant this much discussion" and yet here we are, debating for days over whether the dress is gold or blue.
If only charity was getting into Gaza now. Unfortunately Israel has decided genocide and famine are appropriate. Direct aid helps people. Directly.
How exactly is the money going "directly" to Gaza when nobody in Gaza can access a bank account? You don't find it suspicious that people being rounded up in concentration camps as the IDF are currently doing have internet access to spam BSky?
"credibly" aka you did see it, and said "well I don't want to believe you"
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Thank you.
You know... If you all wanted to actually be responsible app creators... Instead of banning Palestinians.. you could teach us media safety. THAT IS YOU DUTY AS DEVELOPERS You want us to be safe? Teach us Instead of sanitizing my feed... Media literacy would be significantly more helpful
Also, this might not have occurred to you... But Israel has cut Gaza off from not only Palestine.. but from the rest of the world. Nothing gets in or out without Israel's say. The food there is highly inflated bc there isn't anything else coming in Ppl are dieing. And you're doing.. what, exactly?
Then create an appeal process But here is the thing. If ppl are too afraid of being scammed... THEY DON'T HAVE TO DONATE It isn't hard not rocket science This truthfully just feels like the "I don't want it on my feed bc it makes me uncomfortable" it's genocide, so I'm GLAD. But if you
Feel guilty about seeing all this death and destruction and forced starvation... Then go out and help protest Start or continue to boycott. Expand your boycotting. Be more aggressive about it The companies who are investing in Israel aren't paying their employees enough to live! So what do you
Have to lose by opposing this atrocity?
You all have done an amazing job so far
Nah.
Thank you. Good to know its with your support.
except for Palestinans right?
There have been multiple authentic accounts, real people, who have had their accounts suspended/terminated with no communication. This is only a justification for the current process and not an announcement to improve anything in particular such as an appeal process. So what are you trying to say
Are you ok with just ignoring the 10s of 1000s of scammers, capitalizing on the horror & suffering, and exploiting the goodwill of people who want to help and stealing money from those who need it? Blame the predators running the scams, not the admins TRYING to address them.
You should really be putting your blame on BlueSky and not me for the scammers being successful at this. Anywhere there is disaster there are opportunists out to take advantage of those with empathy. It is never justification to cutoff the people who need that relief.
This makes no sense.
You should read up on the history of BlueSky T&S and moderation.
And these accounts were not posting hundreds of identical messages in reply to random posts every day? That's most of the accounts I've seen
There are those but there are others who have been talking directly with those like Molly and Alex, the reaching out to explain what’s happening. On the surface sure they look identical as they are desperate, have literally no other options and are watching their kids starve to death.
If they're not spamming then I agree they shouldn't be getting removed. I've just seen a lot of people complain about accounts being banned that were in fact spamming, like some people don't understand that social networks have TOS
I'm sorry you were inconvenienced by people trying not to die because of Western complicity You privileged piece of trash
Bluesky could help by making sure the rules are clear and also making sure that they also repeat the rules in Arabic
There’s layers to it. I’ve seen accounts where they were replying to people asking questions or coming in explaining what was going on or talking to mutual aid folks so their skeets can be shared. Then in the middle of the thread the account is suspended.
BlueSky has a habit of having a ToS that isn’t consistently applied to everyone (see trans people) and T&S doesn’t adapt to real human needs, instead applying a heavy handed approach across the board that harms more than it protects.
I've also seen accounts confirmed to be actual people in need that were spending all day spamming. Asking for help by spamming is indistinguishable from bot spam for moderation at this scale
If you were in their position, what would you do?
Not engage in spam.
If I was informed that spamming will get my acct suspended, and I knew that would cut me off from the connection with allies on here that can spread awareness (w/o spamming) I would not spam.
they are changing behavior when BlueSky explains what they were doing and still get suspended.
Well since you're so principled about it, I hope you're given the chance to put them to the test.
I don't know, but that doesn't mean social media services are willing to let spam through wholesale. You can't check each post manually, that doesn't work at this scale. You let all spam through or you block all of it
The intent of trust and safety is to understand the needs of the users and respond to them, ensuring that everyone is protected while understanding that no rules are absolute. Twitters T&S was global, tracking multiple political issues and crisis, determining the right approach to each
So that voices aren’t silenced. During the revolution in Sudan we gamed the algorithm just to get awareness and force people to look at what was happening to us. The result was celebrities speaking about it and increased political pressure
Would BlueSky T&S ban us for spam? Probably And that there in is the issue
But if an account wasn't spamming at all, then that is a failure by Bluesky
This is the whole point, and why you arguing is stupid. If you're aware that bluesky isn't flawless, why jump to defend their actions? Think.
There are ways though. People are doing the work of independent verification to avoid scams. Bluesky should work with them.
I'm sorry that you find people begging for help during a genocide annoying. Your priorities seem kind of fucked up
I saw a lot of people complain about school grooming children to transition. How many children do you know that transitioned solely because their school told them to?
What are doing to combat antisemitism on your platform?
ur inaction makes u racist pieces of shit
and yet
Well we know the recent issues that have come up in this is because the Centrists on here are not really fans of Palestine what so ever, and well they have been causing some issues on this knowing the nature of Centrist Supporters.
time to Monetize the app 🤔
Fuck you everyone see what you're actually doing
What a way to politicise the future of the AT Protocol. I gave you the benefit of the doubt with what you did against Turkey users, but now again? Moving my stuff to ActivityPub.
Im sure this has nothing to do with it, right? bsky.app/profile/hans...
"I am a mother of three, and my husband is away from us. Tears fill my eyes every night thinking about my children’s bread. Even $20 can bring us joy. Please help us."
it doesn't sound like you are
People are DYING - sort it out! #bluesky #palestine #gaza #israel #GENOCIDE www.theguardian.com/technology/2...
sounds like BS to me.
how deeply?
get fucked
Thanks for the heads up.
I just block anyone who sends me a DM I don't know, has a go fund me link, or an amazon wish list in their bio. I don't care why they're asking, I block them.
I just have filters set up for all links to payment platforms, that way I never see them unless they come to me. Then I hide the replies, report them as scammers, and block them. It is very fun! I got many coming to me when humans were inexplicably calling me "Pro-genocide".
Yep. Dming first is a biiig red flag.
Please don't confuse educators who have wishlists with the scammers who add every person to ask for money.
Could someone please contact me… I have questions about how to manage things on Bluesky to make all good. I won’t keep you long.., Many thanks 🙏🏻
We deeply understand that you suck.
Armchair engineer here: what if you made an application/form to verify/validate accounts from Gaza in a more secure fashion than standard accounts? A green check mark? This way it seems/feels like you are building solutions to get visibility to Gazans in addition to just deleting/screening spam.
You're full of shit. Your policiy is targetting palestinian accounts no matter what even when they have been verified by many.
AIPAC damands this.
Some of these accounts literally post videos and take pictures of their id's. But you still ban them! We have people who verify their accounts, and you still ban them! And let's be very clear it only happens to gazans. I repost plenty of MA accounts from all over, and this is never a problem.
Thank you for doing your best to address this difficult issue.
You’re doing a great job!
I'd like to see you do more to detect floods of similar posts and to auto block as these absolutely ruin subject-based feeds.
if their messages are clogging up feeds, the feeds can(should) be modified to not include those posts unless the feed’s subject is mutual aid
I do not agree that scammers and spammers should be allowed to flourish and that the problem is the responsibility of feed creators. I am not referring to mutual aid feeds, but scammers and spammers ruin those too.
you can also auto-mute most of those accounts with the @skywatch.blue labeler obviously this is a practical suggestion and not what you want, but take my advice or don’t I’m not your mom
now this is what i wanna hear about bluesky, good.
That's just a fucking lie, because you keep labeling them as spam and banning them.
This is fucking bullshit, and you know it. There are so many scammers on BlueSky, but the only ones getting banned are those with brown skin, so fuck off. As long as you have a known bigot as your head of trust and safety, we won't believe jack shit you say.
Bluesky is the platform of genocide
Bullshit
I have a foolproof app to solve this problem. If you are going to donate, make sure you know who you are sending money to. If you can't do that, send your donation to a recognized organization. If you aren't gonna do that, why are you so concerned?
No you guys aren’t.
Thank you
I knew before the election liberals were comfortable, if not full, support of the genocide. Now, after the election, they have really doubled down for supporting a genocide. They wonder why they lose.
Excuses and more excuses to try to silence the Palestinian genocide.
No. You don't. You need to include a filter for fundraising so people can choose to see fundraising or not. And stop causing harm because you do. Your words are straight from a crisis PR manual.
people are dying
These are a lot of words for "We're ignoring genocide and actively drowning out cries for help"
liars
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What's the context for this, are you guys just banning those beggar bots, or is this about those people advocating wire fraud to own the libs?
Honestly I think it’s both.
If you're reading this just leave the comments section and save yourself
lying again
This does not explain why you’ve banned accounts that are Gaza that don’t do this. Or have labeled ones as spam that specifically don’t reply to random people. Or why you’ve restricted the ability to private message, in a conversation initiated by ANOTHER PERSON.
Like even if this was a true statement, you’ve gotten a lot of false positives. That’s a problem
You deeply understand nothing.
But how does the $ get to them in Gaza? Fair question.
Absolutely a fair question. Receivers in GoFundMe countries transfer it to their Palestinian bank accounts. From there they use money changers for cash. I’ve heard that they also use online money transfer to purchase things as well.
Am Joy from Ghazza Displaced, hungry and missing his loved ones to heaven
Transparency would require at minimum that you provide a list of all suspended accounts with access to their posting history outside of the regular timeline so we can see if you're on the up and up, or if you're moderation teams have been infiltrated by Zionist agents.
Transparency and due process are such basic / fundamental precepts of justice Also the right to face your accuser and mount a defence and to appeals ( which don’t mean 「 press a button and who knows what happens after 」 )
This is a long thread to say nothing more than you're going to keep intentionally harming people without cause. You claim nebulous evidence only you have access to as the reason, yet hatemongers and known dangers like Singal are still here? F off with this. How are you dropping the ball this hard?
you can say palestine you know. it's not just people in the gaza strip you're oppressing it's also west bank palestinians. i see almost nothing about this horrific ongoing genocide because of your oppressive moderation "policies".
weirdly i do get a lot of unsolicited and uncensored man porn via your primary default feeds.
I have been blocked by 17 people for being anti netanyahu. It must be Time to leave this anti Palestine platform
I’m sure I have too but it’s kind of a blessing.
I block back. Gets rid of them. More anti genocide people here. Keep strong.
You are committing crimes against humanity by co-operating a campaign to prevent Gazans, who are under attack as a blockaded civilian population, from accessing humanitarian aid. bsky.app/profile/crai...
All you need to do is stop co-operating with the hate campaign and stop taking actions that interfere with the access to humanitarian aid to this ONE specific spot where a civilian population is under attack by a foreign power blockading aid. Don't participate in the blockade! Work with, not delete.
(Because as you know you are taking precipitate action on a constant basis to delete accounts dating a long way back. Get some Arabic language competence onto your team and work with people)
When I say "you"; some of you, like Jay, are citizens and residents of non-state parties to the Rome Treaty, and can be prosecuted only in restricted circumstances. Others of you, like Aaron, are citizens of and/or reside in a state party. Because yes this is your criminal act not a company's.
Thank you so much for having a BIG heart.
Booo liars
Nearly everyone responding to this is mental.
Why don't you simply nominate a couple of official authenticators for these accounts? People like @alexwinter.com, for example, who is in contact with lots of these accounts and is vouching for them.
They don't want to.
so thats why you're banning gazan accounts on sight? stuff it, you lie, as a trans member if this community, you've shown me that yall lie through your teeth so why should I believe3 this?
also big of you to hop on your sockpuppets like that, it was cute, im not going to fuck off about this though, you bigots can race me to the grave for all i care
Thanks Bluesky Safety. I appreciate your efforts. I was a moderator for 10 yrs on a music site, I know the hoops y'all are jumping through to keep things safe here. I've seen a lot of obtuse comments in this thread. I believe it when someone shows me who they are. My blocked list grows.
My, aren't we full of ourselves today.
Liar.
Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you.
No you don't, and no you're not.
No you aren't you keep banning them and deleting their accounts.
Bullshit.
The fog is coming
bsky.app/profile/ande...
You have sent warnings to accounts that I run. These warnings are invalid and I can only assume I am lucky that you didn’t decide to suspend my accounts. I reached out to you as a result of these warnings and never received a response. This does not give me a lot of confidence in your systems.
So nothing adverse has happened to you or your accounts?
“Accounts that I run” lol.
Heh. Yeah, that does make it sound like I run bot accounts, oops. But no, these are app accounts that users have to explicitly opt into. For example @posts.listifications.app.
Yes, it just struck me as funny in context. Cheers!
How many accounts do you run for what purpose. I have only one myself?
I’ve built app accounts like @posts.listifications.app
Without more context it is hard to assess the validity of your complaint. How many accounts? Are they automated? Do they post the same content? Do they claim to be persons (not organizations/services/etc)? Is that made clear in the bio/name?
Yes, the accounts I am referring to are in my bio in case you want to have a look. For what it’s worth, I think it’s fair that automated warning systems got triggered by them. But what’s not right is the threat of suspension with no follow up when engaging with the warning.
Literally EVERYONE knows you’re lying. Everyone.
You let Jesse Signal be on here and he's a guy who built his career off of demonizing trans people. You can't expect us to take this shit seriously?
This! Ppl can be active pieces of shit... Active bigots and they get to toss their bullshit on everyone... But ppl can't ask for mutual aid if they're from Palestine.... How is this not targeted? The amount of Palestinians seems unbelievably but.. it's an ongoing genocide. This event is 2 years
In. There aren't any jobs in Gaza. Or many. The food and water that is there is scarce. Just like medicine. Israel has literally cut Gaza off from the rest of the world and what are we doing about it!? Banning Palestinians on social media bc ppl think they're scammers. The disconnect
It's so fucking surreal.
Mods should leave it up to each individual whether to donate or not. I don't like removing Palestinian accounts as spam. They have as much right to be here as anybody.
Right? I've also posted my own mutual aid requests.... I'm just not being genocided... Just struggling a bit bc I'm disabled. So I don't need to post asking for help often. Palestinians are being starved to death! There aren't any jobs in Gaza bc of the genocide and blockade
Anti spamming rules exist for good reason. If it is an issue some groups abuse then the accounts should warned, and further action taken if no change. Seems fair.
"Actions speak louder than Words" and we see exactly what you've been doing...
Yet you fail on the basics...
Why are you worried about this? I have understood that Bluesky does not limit the different opinions?
you should be ashamed
Why most everyone in the comments wants to hang you, I'm going to give you the benefit of a doubt. Thank you for doing the best you can in a very inflamed atmosphere.
People have been asking them to ban Jesse Singal for like a year now. Give me a break with your "benefit of a doubt".
Not the first time they do something similar. Fool me once…
You are agents of genocide.
Allez vous faire foutre.
Do you ever get tired of being like this