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2atheistdogs.bsky.social @2atheistdogs.bsky.social

That’s frightening. A friend’s sister was killed in a similar accident. She was sitting on a bench in front of her little boutique shop when an out of control car drove through her and into the shop. They’re lucky to be alive.

aug 18, 2025, 8:42 pm • 159 2

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Rachel Wales @rachelwales.bsky.social

I'm glad they are okay.

aug 19, 2025, 1:37 pm • 1 0 • view
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that hopper over there @sunwiitch.bsky.social

that sounds awful ugh

aug 18, 2025, 9:19 pm • 0 0 • view
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2atheistdogs.bsky.social @2atheistdogs.bsky.social

It was devastating and still wrecks me when I think of the hurt it caused.

aug 18, 2025, 10:16 pm • 1 0 • view
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Don’t Follow Me @abesmith5b.bsky.social

I have never been able to figure out why some motorists drive fast through centers that have street side restaurants or shops. The towns and cities need to put up speed limit signs and double fines for anyone who go 5mph over the limit.

aug 19, 2025, 3:18 am • 0 0 • view
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Duchess Traci Deecee @tracideecee.bsky.social

😔

aug 19, 2025, 4:48 am • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

an accident is when a kid wets the bed. an out of control car that could be slowed by speed governors - but isn't - isn't an accident, it's a deliberate choice that leads to statistically predictable outcomes.

the word
aug 18, 2025, 9:03 pm • 179 6 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

I am not against limiting the speed of cars but this crash could've just as easily occurred while traveling at legal speed

aug 18, 2025, 9:24 pm • 24 0 • view
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OB Cycler @obcycler.bsky.social

geofencing

aug 19, 2025, 8:05 pm • 2 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

lmfao this is the funniest response I got in this whole thread

aug 19, 2025, 8:31 pm • 1 0 • view
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lumberjack wharfie @lumberjackwharfie.bsky.social

bollards

aug 19, 2025, 8:08 pm • 2 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

thanks for your suggestion I'm going to implement it immediately

aug 19, 2025, 8:31 pm • 1 0 • view
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lumberjack wharfie @lumberjackwharfie.bsky.social

sweet

aug 19, 2025, 8:33 pm • 1 0 • view
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2atheistdogs.bsky.social @2atheistdogs.bsky.social

Lol

aug 19, 2025, 10:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Don’t Follow Me @abesmith5b.bsky.social

There seemed to have been two impacts on the building by the vehicle. Unless the vehicle was a big hauling truck (dump truck, food delivery truck, package delivery truck), a double impact says that the driver was driving too fast for safety.

aug 19, 2025, 3:27 am • 1 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

aug 19, 2025, 7:38 am • 0 0 • view
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Don’t Follow Me @abesmith5b.bsky.social

If that is the case then the “legal” speed is way too high.

aug 19, 2025, 3:21 am • 1 0 • view
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lucytraveler.bsky.social @lucytraveler.bsky.social

Car crashes are more likely to occur at higher speeds, so while it is possible that the driver wasn’t speeding, speeding would make this crash more likely.

aug 18, 2025, 9:51 pm • 10 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

thank you wikipedia

aug 18, 2025, 9:56 pm • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

if you want to learn more about this than what you'll find on Wikipedia, I highly recommend There Are No Accidents by Jessie Singer.

book cover of There Are No Accidents by Jessie Singer. subtitle:
aug 18, 2025, 10:00 pm • 5 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

Thank you wikipedia

aug 18, 2025, 10:01 pm • 1 0 • view
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Don’t Follow Me @abesmith5b.bsky.social

Bingo!

aug 19, 2025, 3:21 am • 2 0 • view
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KangaRod @kangarod.bsky.social

Now they’re pretending that isn’t what they said.

aug 20, 2025, 3:24 am • 1 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

It's amazing you can even read the above post when you couldn't read mine through the deep red haze 😂

aug 20, 2025, 3:27 am • 0 0 • view
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KangaRod @kangarod.bsky.social

That’s not how physics works tho.

aug 20, 2025, 12:52 am • 1 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

F = ma Big mass of car means even 20mph -> 0 acceleration is a large force. A friend of mine once had an incident where they drove an old car into a brick wall while going less than 15mph. It still tore a hole in the wall. Store fronts are less strong than brick walls. QED.

aug 20, 2025, 1:25 am • 1 0 • view
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KangaRod @kangarod.bsky.social

I’m not going to argue with someone who thinks a smart car going 30 hits just as hard as an f150 going 40. Says nothing of the fact that it’s easier to stop, turn, and just spot hazards from lower speeds. I don’t know where this idea that faster is safer comes from; but it’s fucking stupid

aug 20, 2025, 2:37 am • 2 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

Assuming a 1s acceleration, 1mph ≈ 1.6kph (as Newtons are metric), rounding up the weights of the latest Smart Car models to around 800kg, and the F150 to around 1900kg: 800kg * (30mph * 1.6) ≈ 38,600N 1900kg * (40mph * 1.6) ≈ 115,900N So actually the F150 here hits about 3x harder. Simple physics

aug 20, 2025, 3:01 am • 1 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

This reinforces exactly what I *actually* said, if you would've read it before responding, which is that massive vehicles moving at legal road speeds still produce a lot of force on impact.

aug 20, 2025, 3:05 am • 1 0 • view
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KangaRod @kangarod.bsky.social

That isn’t what you said though. Maybe you think you did, but you didn’t. What you said is that lowering speeds doesn’t make a difference

aug 20, 2025, 3:16 am • 0 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

I never said that anywhere. You imagined I said that because in the haze of being mad on the internet you lost your ability to read. Try looking at my posts again when they aren't shaded in all red lmfao

aug 20, 2025, 3:18 am • 2 0 • view
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KangaRod @kangarod.bsky.social

Don’t try and gaslight me now. If your response to we should slow cars down Is Actually slowing them won’t make a difference Then what you’ve said is that you don’t believe in physics. If you acknowledge more speed and more weight is worse in every single scenario; then nothing else to say.

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aug 20, 2025, 3:21 am • 0 0 • view
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ben fryback, EIT @bfryback.bsky.social

i too can drive into a wall while going the speed limit. i also can prevent driving into a wall by paying attention, or if I'm not at fault, the other person needs to pay attention. 99.99 percent of people go their entire lives without driving into a restaurant

aug 18, 2025, 9:53 pm • 69 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

cool

aug 18, 2025, 9:58 pm • 10 0 • view
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Hey Antnee how you been @printtemps.bsky.social

Ban cars

aug 19, 2025, 12:02 am • 59 0 • view
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SertrAline @anxietyridden.bsky.social

And restaurants

aug 19, 2025, 1:52 am • 7 0 • view
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Hey Antnee how you been @printtemps.bsky.social

?

aug 19, 2025, 2:27 am • 1 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

you thought you were radical but I found out who can't hang...

aug 19, 2025, 7:43 am • 9 0 • view
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Hey Antnee how you been @printtemps.bsky.social

I’m completely serious ban cars

aug 19, 2025, 10:08 am • 24 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

You'll have to abolish the petrochemical Fourth Reich first. And the only thing that can do that is a Joint Dictatorship of Proletarian Oppressed Nations. So you're becoming a third worldist now, right?

aug 19, 2025, 5:50 pm • 1 0 • view
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Monkssnap @monkssnap.bsky.social

Ban Cars: - global environmental dream`navigate, see, here comes the car-free future - to see and be seen by the next generation #Monkssnap #Bancars on.soundcloud.com/2ciCRSPJWG7v...

aug 31, 2025, 4:18 pm • 0 0 • view
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Grant @regulargrant.bsky.social

Your mom would benefit, that’s for sure.

aug 19, 2025, 2:22 am • 0 0 • view
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citizen of woketopia @piffyjackie.bsky.social

That's great, now can you try reading the post this person was replying to

aug 21, 2025, 10:11 am • 0 0 • view
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Kenneth Bykerk @kennethbykerk.bsky.social

Why is my bed soggy?

aug 19, 2025, 12:11 am • 0 0 • view
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Gwen @topmarx.bsky.social

There was not a driver in this car.

aug 20, 2025, 1:25 pm • 1 0 • view
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bex0760 @bex7860.bsky.social

What a weird thing to say

aug 19, 2025, 1:08 am • 1 0 • view
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ben fryback, EIT @bfryback.bsky.social

every restaurant is a drive thru if you try hard enough. chase your dreams.

aug 19, 2025, 4:47 am • 0 0 • view
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Don Dickinson @dondickinson.bsky.social

Then change the way the roadway is built. There is no excuse for this behaviour.

aug 19, 2025, 12:20 am • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

you can still die in a crash while wearing a seatbelt, yet we mandate seatbelts because they significantly reduce the risk of injury. your point is not relevant here.

aug 18, 2025, 9:52 pm • 7 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

You're not very smart

aug 18, 2025, 9:59 pm • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

why do you say that?

aug 18, 2025, 10:22 pm • 1 0 • view
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Peek @peek.bsky.social

the point is that the presence of a speed governor is completely irrelevant to this accident, unless you know it was cause by speeding. and most of these types of crashes are not caused by speeding, they're elderly people putting their car in drive instead of reverse and accelerating from park

aug 18, 2025, 11:08 pm • 3 0 • view
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KangaRod @kangarod.bsky.social

Untrue, speed is the factor in every collision. You cannot plow through a wall at 5 km/hr with the same force as you can at 20 km/hr. It’s just physics.

aug 20, 2025, 3:26 am • 1 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

Ignore this user @peek.bsky.social they are illiterate 💔

aug 20, 2025, 3:29 am • 0 0 • view
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KangaRod @kangarod.bsky.social

Maybe I was just typing too fast given that you told me speed couldn’t have been a factor.

aug 20, 2025, 3:30 am • 0 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

I never said speed cannot be a factor I said that such a collision could've also happened at legal speeds. You then had a psychotic break and imagined I said something else and you have yet to exit the red mist

aug 20, 2025, 3:32 am • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

"the point" is that it's wrong to call this an accident and even if we assume you're right about all that stuff you made up, we can just ask "why are elderly people, who are at elevated risk of crashing, being allowed to drive?"

aug 18, 2025, 11:14 pm • 2 0 • view
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bex0760 @bex7860.bsky.social

If it wasn't intentional, and we don't know that it was, then it's an accident

aug 19, 2025, 1:11 am • 0 0 • view
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Robby Ronny RobstE̩̍r Zooombito @zambyte.robbyzambito.me

all streets are designed with known design choices that literally eliminate all fatal crashes (see: vision zero). street designers choose to ignore these options in favor of letting drivers arrive at their destination faster (assuming no traffic, which the design also encourages). it's intentional.

aug 19, 2025, 8:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

wrong! "accident" suggests we can't do anything about it. did you know that native Americans are 3x more likely to die in a crosswalk than whites? did you know you're 2x more likely to die in a house fire in West VA than in VA? please read this book to understand why this distinction is important:

There Are No Accidents by Jessie Singer. subtitle: The deadly rise of injury and disaster --who profits and who pays the price
aug 19, 2025, 1:21 am • 3 0 • view
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Peek @peek.bsky.social

i already think that. try and keep up

aug 18, 2025, 11:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

lol why so glib today? just gonna make people feel sorry for you. i mean, i do. i'm not sure why you're quibbling with me about specifics instead of just agreeing that crashes like this should not happen. and speed is certainly a factor. youtu.be/Ra_0DgnJ1uQ

aug 18, 2025, 11:47 pm • 1 0 • view
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Peek @peek.bsky.social

mostly because you are being condescending and insulting me, for example by accusing me, a person who *agrees with you*, of making things up for trying to gently point out why the person you were responding to was reacting the way they were

aug 19, 2025, 1:12 am • 1 0 • view
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Peek @peek.bsky.social

actually it looks like hitting the gas by mistake is a bigger cause than gear confusion but the point stands. the sources i can find from quick googling suggests that speeding accounts for only around 3-5% of vehicle crashes into buildings

aug 18, 2025, 11:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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lucytraveler.bsky.social @lucytraveler.bsky.social

Beck is not just referring to circumstances where speeding was the primary cause of the accident, but also circumstances where it was a partial cause (it’s easier to recover from a driver error or unexpected swerve if going at slower speeds)

aug 19, 2025, 1:55 am • 2 0 • view
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Elle @biknmusicmama.bsky.social

Actually speed is as big a factor in crashes as driving drunk, so no, actually, someone going the speed limit is more likely to retain control of their car

aug 19, 2025, 11:33 am • 4 0 • view
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Kel @resentment.space

🤯

aug 19, 2025, 5:47 pm • 1 0 • view
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latest victim of a pod of marauding orcas @classicmax.bsky.social

do you realize that a lot of words in english have many polysemic meanings that we can all tell apart? nobody hears "accident" in the context of cars and thinks it literally means there were no deliberate choices involved

aug 19, 2025, 10:14 pm • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

sorry, I don't follow. what uh polysemic meaning of "accident" are we all understanding?

aug 19, 2025, 10:53 pm • 0 0 • view
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latest victim of a pod of marauding orcas @classicmax.bsky.social

nobody hears "accident" in the context of a car crash and thinks that means it's an "accident" in the general sense. we just use it as a synonym for crash.

aug 20, 2025, 12:53 am • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

man there's so much wrong with what you've said that i don't even know where to start. you seem to both believe that words have multiple meanings but also that they have no meaning. the "n" word may just mean "a black person," but there are huge reasons why we don't use that word anymore.

aug 20, 2025, 1:15 am • 0 0 • view
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2atheistdogs.bsky.social @2atheistdogs.bsky.social

I can promise you, when Exon Valdez had the ”accident”, I didn’t think to myself “just an accident, they’re not responsible” I actually understand your point. However, you’re unwilling to get that some people know negligence requires accountability regardless of what word is used.

aug 20, 2025, 1:41 am • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

anyway if you want to stop being oblivious to this topic, you should read There Are No Accidents by Jessie Singer. they explain why "accident" is such a nefarious word.

book cover of There Are No Accidents, by Jessie Singer. subtitle: The deadly rise of injury and disaster--who profits and who pays the price. excerpt from There Are No Accdients, quoting american psychologist JJ Gibson:
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latest victim of a pod of marauding orcas @classicmax.bsky.social

words mean what people mean when they say them and what people think when they hear them. have you ever met anyone who's heard "car accident" and inferred anything from that beyond just that there was a crash? in my own head it is completely semantically distinct from the general meaning of accident

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latest victim of a pod of marauding orcas @classicmax.bsky.social

like, i get that there may be a nefarious historical reason for its use, and maybe it used to mean something else. but now it's just a synonym for car crash. it's a little silly to compare it to a slur whose meaning is basically what it's always been.

aug 20, 2025, 1:49 am • 0 0 • view
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2atheistdogs.bsky.social @2atheistdogs.bsky.social

They’re saying that most people are smart enough to infer that just because the word “accident” was used, doesn’t mean that there is an absence of guilt and that the examined facts would determine that. But then … there’s maga reminding us all that odds can be defied. Release the Epstein files.

aug 20, 2025, 12:53 am • 0 0 • view
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Andrea Passaglia @gurghet.bsky.social

How is this an "accident"?

aug 19, 2025, 7:56 pm • 0 0 • view
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Stephen @stephencanteven.bsky.social

Technically someone could have a seizure and lose control or some other element could come into the situation that makes it an accident

aug 19, 2025, 5:09 am • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

this does not account for the statistical significance of the outsized number of deaths (and building crashes) in the US and Canada. these numbers are the result of systems, not individuals having health episodes.

aug 19, 2025, 11:47 am • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

there are many reasons why car crashes are so common and deadly here, but one of the reasons is: we don't do anything about it, because the general public has accepted these deaths as "accidents."

aug 19, 2025, 11:47 am • 0 0 • view
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maxexpat.bsky.social @maxexpat.bsky.social

Crash is the proper word. I never understood why the word accident got popular.

aug 18, 2025, 11:40 pm • 2 0 • view
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Land Moose @landmoose.bsky.social

Probably just because of what words mean in English

aug 19, 2025, 2:47 am • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

right, "accident" can be used to say both "I accidentally stepped on a Lego" and "BP accidentally dumped 134 million gallons of oil in the Gulf." a lot of weight that word "accident" carries!

American psychologist JJ Gibson writes of the word accident:
aug 19, 2025, 3:16 am • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

Americans used to die by "accident" a ton in factories in the early 20th century. and the owners of the factories used that word to blame the deaths on the workers. it took a concerted effort from workers unions to show that the factories were unsafe, and significantly reduce workplace injuries.

aug 19, 2025, 3:16 am • 0 0 • view
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Gwen @topmarx.bsky.social

This car wasn't even powered. If it was then these people wouldn't be walking away from this. This was someone thinking they put a car in park instead of neutral and it slowly backing into the building.

aug 20, 2025, 1:25 pm • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

buildings getting hit by cars is very common in the US. you're saying it's always the result of someone leaving the car in neutral? does that account for why it rarely happens in other countries like NL? their cars can't go in neutral?

aug 20, 2025, 1:57 pm • 0 0 • view
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Gwen @topmarx.bsky.social

What are you talking about? I described what happened in the video. It's in the news. Someone left their car in neutral and it drifted into the building.

aug 20, 2025, 2:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

leaving aside that I was replying to someone describing a friend who died in a similar crash, what is the point of bringing that up? I'm talking about factors that cause this sort of thing to happen more frequently than it should. describing these crashes as "accidents" is one such factor.

aug 20, 2025, 2:23 pm • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

so please tell me why you think it's necessary to respond to my point with a statement that, in this one specific case, it was not the result of a speeding driver? I'm not the police. I wasn't there. so what the fuck does it matter to me exactly how this one crash happened? I'm talking statistics.

aug 20, 2025, 2:23 pm • 0 0 • view
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clarabiesel.bsky.social @clarabiesel.bsky.social

Sometimes the regionality of vocab really helps out. I remember seeing cars at a stop in an intersection before I realized there had been an accident, when my friend's Texan mother, said, "oh, it's a wreck." And I thought, "that is exactly what it is."

aug 18, 2025, 11:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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Studly Fastpants @11-bravo.bsky.social

What happens when a kid, in the process of wetting his/her/their bed, gets hit by an out of control car?.

aug 19, 2025, 8:46 am • 0 0 • view
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Jung in theTrunk.bsky.social @junginthetrunk.bsky.social

I’ll do you one better. It’s a fuck up. They didn’t “accidentally“ drive through the front of the building. They FUCKED UP. Almost all automobile “accidents “ are preventable mistakes. People can’t drive for shit anymore and they are killing others, and far too seldom, themselves.

aug 18, 2025, 9:58 pm • 3 0 • view
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2atheistdogs.bsky.social @2atheistdogs.bsky.social

I completely agree. Unless something horrible like a malfunction happens, it’s nearly always recklessness. I once had brakeline fail in a 1 ton van coming off hghwy 60mph on a downhill ramp. I maneuvered around cars at bottom, ran light, got through another intersection, then rode the curb to stop.😰

aug 18, 2025, 10:10 pm • 1 0 • view
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Land Moose @landmoose.bsky.social

Or we have a word for unintentional misfortune already and no amount of proscriptive Newspeak is going to make anyone any safer

aug 19, 2025, 2:46 am • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

it is worth looking at the drivers, but it is a mistake to put all the blame on them. we know that humans fuck up. that isn't unexpected. if there's a popular photo op on a bridge, and kids keep falling off and dying - you could say "well they should have known better" or you could put up a railing

aug 18, 2025, 10:20 pm • 0 0 • view
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GabeMoralesVR @gabemoralesvr.bsky.social

is there more information about what actually happened? Because you can be involved in a crash like this and it could truly be an accident, i.e. a medical emergency renders the drive unconscious or something. I have no idea what the circumstances are, which is why I'm asking.

aug 18, 2025, 11:25 pm • 0 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

it doesn't matter what the specifics of this crash are, at least not regarding what i'm talking about. what matters is it's surprisingly common in the US, and there are steps to reduce this kind of thing that are not being taken. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_0...

aug 18, 2025, 11:35 pm • 0 0 • view
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GabeMoralesVR @gabemoralesvr.bsky.social

...all I did was ask for more information, jfc calm down.

aug 18, 2025, 11:41 pm • 1 0 • view
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Beck W @loudtristero.bsky.social

?? all i did was answer your question.

aug 18, 2025, 11:49 pm • 0 0 • view
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Land Moose @landmoose.bsky.social

You really didn't

aug 19, 2025, 2:48 am • 0 0 • view
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GabeMoralesVR @gabemoralesvr.bsky.social

I've been trying to learn how to not respond in anger, so it took a lot to not reply back to them at the time, so I'm glad at least one person saw it my way. Sadly, I did respond in anger but luckily I caught myself and deleted it. I should really just delete my account, social media sucks.

aug 19, 2025, 3:16 am • 0 0 • view
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GabeMoralesVR @gabemoralesvr.bsky.social

no, you didn't.

aug 19, 2025, 3:14 am • 0 0 • view