It’s incredible how useless and frustrating “business” tech is these days. 8 cores at 3.9Ghz, 32Gb of ram, 1Tb SSD, and i can’t even scroll a webpage or a PDF without lagging. I can’t search a MSTeams conversation without it giving me results from local files. Sorting by date is not an option.
Sorry to hear but when you lookup an 8 core 3.9Ghz processor it shows either an AMD that came out in 2019 or an Intel 4th generation that came out in 2013. When processor released matters. Also Teams is a memory hog & by default runs in memory even if not open, check your resource monitor.
Ryzen 7 Pro 5850U, from 2021. And it’s really the software that is bullshit, i can run VR games acceptably on that laptop, but MSTeam, Outlook, Sharepoint and Acrobat are just running like garbage. If i kill all the “business” stuff, it works great! But this is the work laptop.
Since you known you can kill the business stuff and it's works, something to do with 1 or more of these biz apps are sucking up resources. Also besides deleting your browser's cache, delete your local PC's windows temp files located in c:\users\(your login)\appdata\local\temp if you haven't.
No shot those would do anything
Yeah, i know the actions i can take, but i know it won’t last. I’m just complaining about it out of frustration, coworkers have the same issues, it’s just absurd how at this point I need to spend so much time fighting business software to get any work done. It shouldn’t be like that.
Companies using Teams have a lot of possible 3 party vendors might use but I'd guess the server or hosted server's hardware isn't as strong as it should. In addition Microsoft just stopped supporting teams on a 2016 server as a app yet 2016 server isn't end of life for the OS until jan 2027.
It could also be a misconfiguration of your companies sharepoint which is very common. I don't think it has anything to do with adobe if it's only a reader.
Windows 11 is really something
Tech in general has stagnated since the late 2000s and turned into nothing more than a game of "Let's see how much faster we can kill this planet"
Because Windows and now mac are full of bloatware for running Apple music, cloud, and a whole lot of other irrelevance. When you used to be able to just offload a bunch of stuff on CD now they cram it onto the internet on to their servers.
*taps mic* A.i. *feedback* 🚪🚶🏻♂️
Yes. And those OSes running AI stuff now too. Good point. The Google/Android eco-system with the integrated Google Ads (spying service) embedded into soo many Google/Android apps is extreme now too.
You have a virus: Windows. Solution: Unix distro like Linux or BSD. Or BSD based OS like Apple runs
we have been moving towards complexity this whole time and calling it "progress"
Don't blame the IT guys. Blame the head of the company who doesn't want to pay them for better service. Like you, IT is only allowed to do what your boss authorizes. If systems aren't cleaned regularly (both data and physical), slow down happens.
How many tabs? Hdd?
Freshly booted, 3 tabs in Edge, Sharepoint x2 + Jira. Outlook, Excel and Teams open, nothing else major. 500Gb SSD. It's not a hardware issue, it's Microsoft's junk being absurd. I can open things just fine in Libreoffice, I can browse just fine with Firefox. But i can't use that for workstuff.
Look In resource monitor. Somethings funky. Maybe search is stuck indexing. Shut that service off.
Sounds like something is sucking up bandwidth. Your network could be very busy and the router is having trouble feeding everybody. If you've downloaded a PDF file onto your computer and then open it, it shouldn't lag if it's a network issue. It will lag if it's the computer itself. Background app ?
Capitalism strikes again! Why make good products when you basically own the entire market? Theres 0 incentive to make quality products to keep customers around when its our only option Then they just keep getting worse cuz of their cuts for more profits. AI chatbots for customer service. More slop
Welcome to the future of tech: enshittification
wtf? You shouldn't be lagging on a pdf or a web page with that much ram. Are the pdf files locally hosted or are they accessed via the web? A slow internet connection would explain the lag a lot more than the specs mentioned. Maybe some weird app that tracks your productivity in the background?
Mystery pauses and general low performance caused by Web/JavaScript everything is more likely from my experience Firefox can download PDFs asynchronously so slow network won't block rendering, Chromium can probably do the same
would you like to save this complaint to onedrive?
Never mind, Imma just going to do this for you anyway.
Truth. I had a client the other day who couldn't scroll through a PDF in Reader, but I could use the preview feature in Outlook (classic) to scroll it just fine. I installed that computer a couple days prior. Just dogshit software.
Network and server tasks are involved.
Try 9 cores and 33GB…
32gb of ram, thats like a babies toy
Less than 10% of software uses more than 1 core. Tech has been over 20 years. That's how lazy our programmers are.
Even non business software. YouTube takes up to 1.5GB on the home page and loads excruciatingly slowly no matter the hardware or net speed
I run older Macs because they still work perfectly and run the software I need to run without problems. Give them a web page to look at and all of a sudden they’re struggling. When did looking at Google results get so processor intensive?
Today’s web is a cesspool of background activity that tries every imaginable way to fingerprint you.
Yeah, like why does a 30 second ad run perfect, but a 30 second YouTube video lags like it's running from a 1995 28.8 k modem?
Because it’s not a pure video. It’s laced with all sorts of payloads meant to fingerprint you. It collects the data to feed the ad.
youtu.be/7xS-CE-hy6Q
Sorting and filtering is such a basic function
That's because innovation in hardware is linear, but stupidity in software programming is exponential.
Because you suppose a only care about now now now Now Now now now!
The whole business tech especially WinTel was centered around Moore's Law - whatever is slow today will be fast tomorrow. Now physics killed the Moore's Law, so the new reality is that whatever is slow today will be slow tomorrow.
Here, have another ✨CoPilot✨ button.
AaaAaaAaaaAaAaaaargh!
Teams SUCKS This is a fact
I THOUGHT WE HAD SOLVED THIS. It's like these things are made by people who have literally never used a computer and program by tying knots in string.
The eternal scam
if you are working in corporate America like me then your bosses definitely don’t want you to care so much about your job that you would complain about things like wanting a workstation that doesn’t drag down your productivity, so there’s a strong market for terrible computers
To put it another way: You get paid by the hour, right? So it's not your fault if doing your job takes twice as long as it used to. When they ask why your performance has dropped... be honest.
They will say, you should be happy to have a computer and a chair, this should please you enough that you don’t call on me to attended to any of your needs, you are not grateful servants if you have any needs of your own. They like people who fawn over them more than they like productivity
Frankly as long as you are not bringing up problems, do a good job making the plastic face of toxic positivity and your face hole makes talking points aligned with whatever garbage they want people to swallow, I have found that corporate leadership doesn’t care about productivity at all
I always thought that the problem lay within framework on top of framework on top of framework, with every processing problem handled by throwing more memory at it due to the constraints of management pressure and underpaid employees. There's Windows NT libraries in Windows 11 still, Christ!
YES. I supposedly have all this performance at my fingertips at work, but when I open up task manager I quickly discover ALL OF IT is going to background crap. There are so many logging, monitoring, patch management, sync, backup, and security solutions that slow every action I take to a crawl.
My favorite part of this is how there is so much information that IT is completely overwhelmed. Management just wants all these security best practices checkboxes without caring about the results or understanding how they all interact... or management was wowed by the sales pitches.
At some point the scales will tip and we’ll all remember that you can basically run IRC on a toaster.
And windows 11 is dog shit too. Just garbage all the way down
Enshittification of everything
We used to be able to use our computers for 2gb or less, Now anymore you need 12+ GB for a standard computer because everything has to fucking use JS and Electron and need to look fancy when I just want it to work.
I don’t know if you’re using Adobe to open that PDF, but their reader is an awful piece of software. The slowness in that case would not be caused by your hardware
Yeah, i am stuck using it, signed/approved documents require it for business reasons.
www.gonitro.com/sem/nitro-pd...
When you're on work hardware downloading stuff often isn't an option I would die to be able to use LibreOffice instead of Microsoft on my work laptop but I just can't install it
Try installing an old Windows on that machine. Windows2000 & Office2000 are great, as those install without talking to servers as part of the process. It will be unforgettable experience, everything is lightning fast. And nothing is security-wise not up to date.
Just don't plug it into the internet.
Windows 2000 was great. Developers could install 120 day trial versions, and my system never survived that long. It didn't support USB though and may not support modern large disks.
It did support USB, and with 48bit LBA enabled, i think 2Tb is the limit it’ll support for disk size. The killer was the 32bit memory size limit. Win2k-x64 would have been amazing.
Thanks for the correction, it was some time ago. Anyway we ran Windows 2000 until XP was released.
I personally hated XP, stuck with Win2K on all my machines until Win7 came out! So yeah, i have experience in making it work on hardware it wasn’t meant to!
I switched to chromeOS fairly early on and never looked back.
I’ve just been using whatever OS works best for the purpose as far as personal machines, so I’m running a fun blend of everything. But work is strictly locked down HP laptop on the domain with the standard software package for business. At least i got to be local admin…
HW support will be an issue if installing w2k today. A vintage PCI- bus (not PCI-E) display adapter and an OHCI USB host controller might be handy.
I still have a Win2000 laptop, Thinkpad T42, that i still use for messing with older hardware. It’s impressive what it’ll still do. But that’s personal stuff, not business.
Win 2k with all the updates applied is quite slow. Fresh install with no patches is a mindblowing experience with modern HW. At this point, w2k is not secure anyway, so applying all the patches makes only so much difference.
Don't even get me started on absurd usability of Azure's DevOps board. Back button? Fuck off. Refresh current page? Suck my dick. Absolute dogshit.
I mean most for profit software is looking to make extra money by surveilling you so the computer u buy has gotta help them train their AI slop machines. Honestly go to linux it’s such a breath of fresh air these days. if you’ve never done it before use fedora linux.
Well… they’ve got it configured with super invasive security software, full disk encryption, real time network traffic monitoring and redirecting, “productivity” software to monitor everything you do on it, and you’ll need to connect through the VPN if remote… there’s a few cpu cycles left for you 🙃
Linux for the win.
and they went to moon on megabytes... all apps (especially google's) always on surveillance mode. If you tape you cameras, you might get a slight performance boost lol
Teams and Outlook and honestly any ms software is fucking dogshit at this point. I still mourn the day we switched from slack to msteams
Check your task manager for all the corporate spyware. I have a perfectly capable laptop from a hardware perspective that is impossible to use for certain development tasks due to a litany of corporate spyware. When the accountants and lawyers spec out the devices, productivity suffers.
There is nothing anyone can do against garbage software programmed by garbage lowest cost “developers”. Look at OG COBOL code - which still, today, makes the world go round) - and tell me where we lost the script.
We lost the script when venture capitalist became involved.
Just wait for “vibe coders “ … they produce crap even less reliable than boot and carpenters.
Seeing them daily. 😞
I need to give my students the “if you can’t come up to the whiteboard and at least come close to the code without having access to a computer … you are going to fail this class” speech next week.
JavaScript is where we lost the script lol
Adding types back to the script *helped*.
Except, does it, really? TS just gets converted to JS anyway.
Don’t get me started on that pile of digital fecal matter.
Try Linux, it can do all of that on a €50 raspberry pi. Don’t laugh, I am a developer, big code base, lots of files to compile (or to process) and the pi with a simple sd card (not even fast) beat my 3yo i5 laptop, the latter had 16 times more RAM and an SSD.
Todays pis are orders of magnitude faster.
Stop going to porn sites and loading up on all of that malware ;)
It sounds like you’ve got a hacker. Restart your computer. Change your password.
Just wait till they "update" you to Windows 12. You won't have a choice. It will ask repeatedly. It will swap the "yes" and "fuck no" buttons to trick you. It will pre-download the update files and hog drive space. Then, it will install itself and run like shit, just like 10 and 11 did.
You've got something nasty running alongside if that's true. Misconfigured security software, bad plugins, something.