You do realize that this means “push 9 million Jews in Israel to the sea”. It is a call for murder, not peace.
You do realize that this means “push 9 million Jews in Israel to the sea”. It is a call for murder, not peace.
You would be surprised to learn how many people around the globe would love to see that. Not any different to the genocide Israel is perpetrating in Gaza
Completely different. There are 27 Arab counties who won’t help the Palestinians either but desktop id only fomented for the Jewish state.
Noone is doing anything relevant to help the Palestinian people. No Arab countries, no western countries, no international institutions. Many empty words, but Israel continues it's genocide
And so is pushing the entire country into the sea.
No it doesn’t.
It depends on if you're from Israel or Gaza. And who was saying it.
Yes, it does.
It does not. It means to live freely in that region. When Israelis use that phrase do you have a problem with it?
"While origins are unknown, in the 1960s & 70s it became the signature phrase of the Palestine Liberation Organization to indicate the replacement of the State of Israel with a State of Palestine extending “from the river to the sea,” including the expulsion of Jews who entered the land after 1947."
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You are stating nonsense. It means an existential threat to Jews.
And when Israelis say it? What does it mean then?
9 million European white supremacist colonists?
20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs. Many are of other countries where Jews were persecuted such as other Arab counties. Most of the Europeans you describe were holocaust survivors. Many have families that have been there for hundreds of years or more. Go read your history books.
Citizens of an apartheid state... What do indigenous Palestinians have to do with the Holocaust? Why don't they just come to the USA? It's already run by Holocaust survivors. I wrote my senior thesis at Princeton University on this conflict. I am very well read. www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...
Really? Did you know 80% of Israeli Jews are Sephardic, or not from Europe? Did you know Jews were pushed out of the Arab countries in 1948 & there are almost none there now? And the US run by holocaust survivors? Here comes the antisemitism.
You lie... In Israel, Sephardic Jews, alongside Mizrahi Jews, constitute a significant portion of the Jewish population, estimated to be around 30%.
Lie? Seriously? I think we’re done here.
No, that isn't true. My ancestors are Sephardic. The ruling class in Israel are the Ashkenazi. They are not the Hebrews of the Bible. There are no white people in the Bible. And of course you cry antisemitism, aterm discredited by Netanyahu. Are you familiar with AIPAC? Pick up a history book.
That would include children, mixed families, Arabs, pro-Palistinian Jews, and on and on. Disgusting.
It was a question...brought on by Netanyahu's disgusting racism. "40 year-old quotes of Bibi supporting ethnic cleansing and saying Mizrahi soldiers need Ashkenazi ("white") officers to command them. They originally appeared in Max Hastings' memoir Going to the Wars (2000)" And so on...
Wiping out the Jews still not the solution.
Who's talking about wiping out Jews? I'm talking about colonizers. Wiping out Jews was already tried. And the Palestinians who had nothing to do with that atrocity are still paying the price. Just come to the USA...Netanyahu runs it anyway.
Okay. What defines a "colonizer"?
If you have to ask, you are probably one. A colonizer is a white European who has commandeered brown, Black, yellow or red indigenous land. The term comes from Cristobal Colón.
How do you commandeer if you're born somewhere or move to a place that was "commandeered" (often legally) by previous generations? Lots of Israelis are descendants of Arabia, other parts of the Middle East, and North Africa. Nearly ALL have roots in Israel. What's the strategy here?
We could give millions of people in America healthcare for the billions of dollars we waste on a fucking bully of a country who only drags people into their wars. Never does anything in return.
Honestly, the world would be better off without Israel. Sorry, it is what it is.
The world would be a better off without islamic cockroaches.
Before 2017, the slogan also meant Palestinian independence from British colonialism and to push all the Palestinians into the sea for Israelis. It’s very complicated and fraught with political propaganda because of how powerful the rhyme is.
So, when Israel used it, who they were calling for a genocide on? "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." -Likud platform, 1977 Or when Zionists used it? www.jns.org/israel-from-...
Cry me a river to the sea. 😂
Lol @ everyone saying Israel is geocoding Palestinians and crying about it. All these people are self-proclaimed communists who love mao, pol pot and stalin. All communists who genocided more than 100,000,000 people. STFU and sit down putin lovers.
There is no two ways about it, you are a raging idiot! 😂
The pile of 💩 is part of the Zionist hasbara machine. Ignore the NAZI wanna-be propagandist.
To abandon the article after you have the sentence started with one is a inconsistent and thoughtless as the slogan itself.
all terrorists would.
What a stupid and disgusting post. Shame on you 🖕🏼🫵🏼
Calling this post stupid won’t erase your ignorance. If you’re this angry, maybe it’s time to educate yourself instead of just throwing tantrums. Now go get some education AND GET LOST !!
Its Jew owned bussiness.Do t hold your breath.
And by calling it that, you have revealed yourself as the Nazi you truly are.
Nah...real Nazis today live in Israel..
Sorry, just the way you expressed yourself calling it a Jew owned instead of Jewish owned identifies you not only as a Nazi but an ignorant, illiterate one.
and btw by caring more about stupid gramnar then victims of genocide that make you Nazi too.....now fuck off Nazi..i dont want to talk to people as yourself.
Hey scumbag, I didn't say Israel was right in what they were doing. I said you were an ignorant, illiterate Nazi because of the way you express yourself. Killing innocents is wrong, no matter who does it. That doesn't make regular Israelis anymore guilty than Hamas makes Palestinians. You are just
Its not just killing innocents. Its genocide. Word that you clearly avoiding.
an ignorant bigoted fuckwad.
fuck off Nazi..go kill some children.
I don't believe in killing, but in your case....
As i said...real Nazi today are in Israel...and while i ignorantly express jew instead jewish they in meanwhile starve people to death and murder childrens.
Spot on
Sooo, you're pro HAMAS and anti semitic?
You are an antisemite
Sooo...I hate myself? How interesting.
It’s been done before, in reality you are erasing the many Jewish people who do not support Israel by conflating a militaristic country with an entire group of people, do you not see how that is generalizing?
No...but I see how you are.
Nice, real critical thinker
Nice conflation. Most here are neither.
Most here are neither, myself included but it's pretty well established that phrase is massively controversial and not a good one to get behind if you want to promote peace
Thank you for saying this.
Ice cream to feed your kid before you strap a bomb to him?
Wait... is that HANK on the left?
What a wonderful idea. I would buy it all summer long.
You'd be supporting Jews being murdered. Thanks for clearing that up for us how you really feel
Did you forget that others have faced government organized genocide and their descendants are STILL DEALING WITH THE WRECKAGE?
Nice try, sugar. Being anti-imperialist is not the same as being anti-Semitic. Since many of my ancestors were murdered and displaced by people stealing their land, l have STRONG FEELINGS on this subject and you will not shame me.
Jews legally PURCHASED LAND from Arabs and foreigners in the SWAMPS of Palestine in the 1800s. indigenous Jews also remained. The 800k Jews kicked out of Arab lands found a home in Israel. Also Jews fleeing from Holocaust. Sorry honey. Ain't going nowhere The rest is history. Get over it.
The land was not purchased. That is history. Get over it. My ancestors are the Indigenous people of this hemisphere. You have a great deal of learning to do.
So good luck with the river to the sea stuff. Maybe Ben and Jerry can help with that! Recent events show it is a difficult slog! Lmao!!!
Your compassion is underwhelming, wasichu.
I have compassion for the Palestinians that are sacrificed for Hamas and Iran's means. Hamas massacred Jews at a music festival. You yawned.
Correction. You cheered.
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Israel was attacked on all sides in two wars. Do you acknowledge that or you're gonna rewrite more history? The Arabs were told to flee by Arab countries who tried to Take the River to the Sea. That's how it goes when you go to war honey-bunch. The victors get the spoils.
Seizing land by violence is morally wrong. Murdering people because you don't like their culture is morally wrong. Responding to violence with completely indiscriminate devastation is morally wrong. It is as simple as that.
Are you talking about Hamas and Hezbollah who murder rape and Jewish mutilate women and babies which pleases you, apparently? Jews purchased land, legally from foreign investors and Arabs in 1880's. Jews were attacked and miraculously WON the rest. Period.
Let's nor forget that the Arab colonial powers convinced Palestine to side with them, by saying they'd steal back the land Jews purchased, and when those powers lost, they decided to take Palestine as a consolation prize instead.
Imperialist interference always makes things worse, without a doubt. Which is why ALL governments should stop doing it. Seizing land by violence is morally wrong.
Yes, seizing land by violence is morally wrong. That's what Israel's neighbors have been doing since 1948, and what has been done to the Jews for 2,000 years.
That doesn't justify doing it to others, ever. By any group, including governments.
Sure, Israel isn't doing that though. Israel is being attacked by its neighbors and is defending itself. You don't get to whine about borders when you use the land on the border to attack your neighbor.
Israel is bombing another nation into rubble and murdering hundreds of thousands of people while denying the few survivors any aid. That is genocide. One genocide does not justify another.
I guess you're really angry at Russia.
From the River to the Sea, Can you grab a tub of Ben and jerry's for me? I'm baked.
Ben got arrested and fired for speaking up for Palestinian. There is no way the company would do this now, and definitely not earnestly.
An antisemite would say
Except in this case it’s actually antisemitism. “ from the river to sea” is a phrase meaning the exterminator of the entire nation of Israel. So either you do t know that or you support it. If you support it, own it
Conflating Israel and the genocidal actions of its government with Jews is what’s antisemitic here
A ridiculous statement
Wow, three whole words. Must’ve taken you all morning. Try again, this time try and come up with something substantive.
I’m just not interested in arguing with a bigot any longer. Not to mention an asshole
No worries, you can bow out any time. Just don’t pretend slinging insults is the moral high ground.
Not intimidated. I just actually have a productive life and don’t live with my parents nor get a check from the government
People with real productive lives don’t usually need to announce it to strangers online. But you do you, champ! Oh, and if living rent-free in your head is a government benefit, then thanks, I’ll keep cashing in 😉
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Watermelon?
A lot of people use the 🍉 emoji on social media to discuss Palestine where it's banned, because the colors are like the Palestinian flag.
Ah. Thanks!
Why not put a call to ethnic cleansing on an ice cream
Ever heard of the saying about the ‘pot and the kettle’?
What do you mean ?
I mean the irony is almost comical, a pro-Israeli crying wolf about some imaginary threat of ethnic cleansing, all while Israel is actively and unapologetically ethnically cleansing Palestinians from their own land. Pot calling the kettle black !!
Please provide references to an actual such cleansing by Israel. Yes, the current Israeli government is a shitshow, and they certainly pandering to their (racist, fascistic) base, but can you point to verifiable actions that point to that?
Multiple UN bodies, leading human rights NGOs, and international experts have explicitly declared Israel's ongoing military and political strategies toward Palestinians as ethnic cleansing: Volker Türk (UN Human Rights Chief): “tantamount to ethnic cleansing” www.timesofisrael.com/un-rights-ch...
This is an appeal to authority. All of those are deeply biased. Case in point: Iran is firing missiles daily, directly targeting *civilians*. They have hit a hospital and killed dozens. No condemnations. Weird, isn't it?
Calling all major UN bodies, human rights NGOs, and respected international experts ‘biased’ is nothing but intellectual dishonesty wrapped in bad faith. It’s a desperate attempt to shield indefensible actions from accountability. It’s clear whose side you are on, and it sure isn’t justice or truth.
These "respected" experts have repeatedly shown bias. How many times did Amnesty address the actual genocide in Sudan? Exactly. Amnesty, like Ireland, wants to *redefine* "genocide, because they can't blame Israel in one otherwise. That's a fact. www.fdd.org/analysis/202...
Whataboutism won’t erase 70K+ dead in Gaza. Amnesty reports on all conflicts, including Sudan. Quoting a partisan pro-Israel lobby group like FDD to dismiss war crimes isn’t ‘truth’, it’s called PR. Facts don’t become bias just because they make Israel look bad. www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...
standing in courtroom 600 at nuremburg and i've gotta say this really seems like an appeal to authority, very anti-german
So let's discuss specific claims.
So, when Israel used it, who they were calling for a genocide on? "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." -Likud platform, 1977 Or when Zionists used it? www.jns.org/israel-from-...
The key word here is "sovereignty". It calls for applying Israeli law part of Israel (which I don't agree with). Israel has a large Arab population (20%) with equal rights. If you are looking for ethnic cleansing, check what happened to the Jewish communities in Arab countries after 1948.
Arabs in Israel don’t have equal rights, over 65 laws discriminate against them. And Jews from Arab countries weren’t ethnically cleansed, they were offered citizenship, many left via Zionist deals. Nice hasbara though. Try facts next time.
I am stating facts. Arabs in Israel are citizens. I agree that there's discrimination. There's also discrimination against blacks in the US. So? The US has no right to exist? If criminalizing Jewishness, seizing possessions, boycotts and executions means Jews left "voluntarily", well...
A state founded through displacement, apartheid, and ongoing occupation has no right to exist
indeed, america has no right to exist
Israel is an ethnostate. It’s literally a matter of policy that ethnic Jews have more rights than others. The US, for all its racial problems, doesn’t have that as an official position. And now Israel under Bible has achieved a 35 year ambition of getting a US president to attack Iran.
Jewish exodus: mass aliyah not expulsion … en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati...
Yeah, Wikipedia. Unfortunately, it's quite biased. See below. Now for the facts: 99% of Jews left Arab counties, where they lived for *2500* years. You can't get these numbers voluntarily. If you really want to learn, check www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/the-... www.adl.org/resources/re...
Of course Wikipedia,the UN, human rights orgs, journalists, historians… all biased.The only ‘unbiased’ source left is apparently whatever’s playing in your personal echo chamber.When you have no facts, discrediting the source is all you have left. Next you’ll say gravity has a pro-Palestine bias too
Jews aren’t a monolith. The ADL defended Elon Musk, a literal Nazi. Your complaint about supposed bias in Wikipedia, which lists its sources, is thus moot.
Sure, start in 1948, in the months before Israel declared itself a state. They attacked and depopulated cities they planned to occupy for themselves. This meant killing, imprisoning, or just running off the people who were already there.
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Ah, the $11 size.
I haven't had any time for Ben & Jerry's since 2022 when one of their founders said that Ukraine should just roll over and accept Russian occupation instead of getting aid from other countries.
It would be a disaster for Jews. Palestine just like what happened to Jews in the rest of Middle Eastern countries.
Like in south africa?
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Or does "Adult Swim" work for you?
Do you work for "Adult Swim"?
Years ago I wrote to them and suggested "Orange imPeach Mint" and never heard back from them.
From the sea To shining sea Turtle Island will Be Free
No. Israel has a right to exist.
Saying ‘Israel has a right to exist and defend itself’ is like saying ‘Nazi Germany had a right to exist and defend itself.’ No state has some abstract, unconditional right to exist, especially not one founded through displacement, apartheid, and ongoing occupation. 1/2
2/2 The German people had a right to live in peace. The Nazi regime didn’t. Similarly, the Jewish people have a right to safety and dignity, but not through a settler-colonial state that violates Palestinian rights. States are not sacred. People are.
We agree. But “from the river to the sea” is a chant often used to suggest that Israel should not exist. I don’t like Israel’s leaders any more than I like my own, but my country has a right to exist. Israelis and Palestinians have to figure out a way for both peoples to coexist.
Both Israelis and Palestinians have to figure out how to coexist. Leadership on both sides has to want that. Both sides have blood on their hands.
The Zionist state intends to eradicate the Palestinian population. Perhaps the only way to end this is to remove the terrorist govt of Israel and replace Israel with a single secular state where all people have an equal vote. I’m not proposing an end to Israel - only an end to the Zio ethno state.
And Palestine???
Yes, and Palestine
Ok but can you make it a sherbet?
Ben and Jerry's is owned by Unilever. Good luck with that.
This phrase is a call to genocide and NO ONE should be endorsing that. As much as you think Israel is causing a genocide, Hamas has been calling for genocide of all Jews since its founding with this phrase. Its hypocritical to condemn one genocide by calling for another genocide.
You clearly misunderstand the application of that slogan. Israel's Zionist gangsters want a Jews-only state from the Jordan to the Meditteranean; some want it from the Euphrates to the Med, including the eastern parts of Egypt.
The Palestinians using that phrase want a democratic state where ALL people living there have voting rights, from the Jordan to the Mediterranean. HAMAS may make claims of 'Jews out', but they speak the voice of 80 years of Zionist genocidal murders.
Palestine can not coexist with a Zionist state because the Zionist state intends to eradicate the Palestinian population. The only solution is a single state where ALL vote and ALL have the SAME rights. End Zionism.
That meaning for the phrase rose to prominence in 2017 when hamas used it in their charter to describe precisely that. It was used by Netanyahu’s Libud party to describe Israel’s borders since 1967. And before that, it was used to describe freedom from British colonialism.
I agree it’s not the best slogan to use commercially because of its reference to both Israeli and Palestinian genocide; but people are trying to reclaim it into something slightly positive. I just hope someone can clarify what they mean by “free” in a third stanza.
Exactly. That's what you say when you want to kill all Jews in Israel.
So, when Israel used it, who they were calling for a genocide on? "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." -Likud platform, 1977 Or when Zionists used it? www.jns.org/israel-from-...
Now the question is whose political position that phrase is referencing. There’s a long history of that being used to describe the borders of Israel, Palestine independence, co-existence, and the expelling of Israelis; all in one century.
At this point, let's just expel the Zionist Israelis in to the ocean, then no one will be upset.
And how would you tell them apart? If you do it wrong, you end up with ICE or the reichstag decree.
Easy; just have them reply to my post just like you did. When we get a dumb fucking answer like yours, expel.
Unilever, shit company.
Yes, and that is why Ben & Jerry’s took them to court www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...
Do you understand these symbols and this saying? Of course no company will do this!
Hello. I have been trying to figure out what the watermelon slices represent. I've seen them everywhere, especially around the election, but no one will explain them.
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"From the river to the sea" is a common phrase in Israel and Palestine and both have used it to declare their intention to be free. The watermelon is a symbol of Palestinian resistance to Israeli apartheid over the last 70 years.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 no
Look at all the mewling Zionists whining about the use of a Zionist phrase.
WTF is this? Don’t lump B&J into this mess!
their mother company sells lots of B&J’s in Israel. they refuse to stop, even when asked by the founders
True, it does suck… neither side is acting in anyway to resolve this fucking mess.
but one side has all the power.
true, very true… so much wrong, so hard to fix! Tell u though the P’s do not win my sympathy building and storing weapons under schools and hospitals. Leave the kids out of the adults’ fight
Accusing Palestinians of building/ storing weapons under schools/ hospitals is a proven lie used to justify war crimes. Independent investigations have found no credible evidence of such tactics. Don’t let propaganda rewrite the truth, the real violence is inflicted by Israel on innocent P civilians
Add Ben & Jerry's to the list of based companies, along with Penzey's.