As a half breed Native- Canadian. It is damn annoying seeing and hearing this divisionist speech in the 21st century

Right? People want us to be mad but, anyway you slice it, we all gotta live together. Love my First Nations homies. 🤷 Don't know why people still think we're/want us to be fighting all the time.

ALL of North and South America are lands stolen from the first people. In Canada the provincial and federal governments are trying to work with the local native councils to make amends and return treaty lands where possible. Also to promote financial independence.

Sad but true , so many here in Canada refuse to recognize the past .

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_a...

Dosen’t make me upset cause it’s the truth.

It's actually in our National Anthem : " O Canada, our home and native land..."

Native meaning "ours", not natives land. They like to pretend to forget they signed treaties and they were busy massacring other tribes and stealing their land when Europeans first got here.

Canada is primarily a majority white Christian population so this is only expected

Same in Australia

Same response from Americans.

Who is supposedly "owning" the Canadians with this burn? Americans? Definitely not bc we're way too big a target due to our recent idiocy

Bruh, doesn't matter who says the truth, it's still true

Has anyone else in America thought that the word "brave" in the Star Spangled Banner" might refer to native American men?

I'm not sure it was intended. I thought they meant brave as in the colonists that defied and fought the English. But it would be an interesting contrast: land of the free = the people who settled here for freedom, home of the brave = it was originally home of brave native people. Idk

I'm sure you are correct but I thought about it for years and wondered if anyone else has.

Funny but im pretty sure they know that and respect the land accordingly

It's natives that lack respect. Women and kids on reservations are sexually assaulted at 10X higher than the national average by indigenous men. EVERY POLITICIAN KNOWS ABOUT IT including their own. No wonder we have so many #MMIWG! So much for #EveryChildMatters. www.aptnnews.ca/national-new...

No reminder needed here. I am grateful. 🙏🏻

Not me! I say Land Back!!!

Absolutely yes! I’m not Canadian, but I want that for Canada and the U.S.

We settlers aren’t doing a good job of taking care of the land and nature so it would be in better hands if the land was given back to the First Nations.

The natives weren't that eco friendly to be honest. Look how many large species they hunted to extinction in North/South America. The primary reason they didn't devastate the environment further is due to not having the wheel, domesticated animals, or iron. It was not a paradise, life was brutal.

Yeah. I don’t think your argument holds up. Especially considering the near extinction of buffalo and other species like some wolf species that Europeans have been known to cause. www.science.org/content/arti...

Are you talking about giant beasts that went extinct? If not, which species are you suggesting natives killed off?

Psst, I have a secret. Land globally has changed hands 5000 times over 5000 years.

EVERY YEAR?!? That's a lot of hands to go through

Original poster is kinda suspect, yes? Definitely weird math, a tad racist, etc…

I think you're right. Geez - I looked at their posts...

Not to be taken literally, nor is that an exact number, but how many wars have there been throughout history, and how many of those were over land? Usually, the two biggest influences for war are religion or land. Sometimes both.

As it seems editing a post doesn't work. By "not literally " I'm speaking of the numbers, there was indeed a lot of land conquered, and it exchanged many hands many times.

You're totally right though

I don't feel this way. I came to the country almost 30 years ago and I don't feel I live on stolen land. In fact, the amount of taxes I've paid and continue paying, contributed to the well-being of the native people, whom I deeply respect. And btw, Flanders' wife is long dead.

They're more than happy to keep extorting cash from todays taxpayers when they know damn well they signed treaties. They were massacring each other and stealing other tribes land when Europeans first got here. www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/i...

Canadian here, hoping you get the reparations you deserve. 🇨🇦

fun fact, this meme wouldn't work on Mexico. MOST of the population is indigenous ancestry.

Well lucky thing the Canadians hate Mexico even worse than the Americans /s

And now, Americans think the Spanish language *originated* in the Americas, and have no idea that Spain even exists.

Yeah, in places colonized by the Spanish, it's not like this didn't cause suffering, but they mixed romantically and culturally with indigenous communities, whereas places colonized by the English didn't. So Mexico is a blended culture. I think that's kind of why it's so hated by rich WASPs.

Ever hear of the Métis? Learn the history of Canada.

one of three legally recognized indigenous groups per the constitution act with a population of about 624k 5 years ago, why?

Did you read the post above mine?

Americans too...

The Brits stole most of it, the French stole the rest . The Canadians are far too polite to be stealing countries . If the Americans had asked as nicely as the Canadians did, there would have been no need for a revolution to steal the stolen land back off of the Brits. They gave them Canada

Ummmm, no. 😳😳😳😳

So it wasn’t called New France then ? The Brits didn’t take chunks of it and take more through the Treaty of Paris.

"Canadians" did not treat Indigenous people any better than the US or Australia did. Let's not forget these countries were all colonies of imperialist Britain.

We lacked the black slaves to hate so we did it to natives. I've been married to a beautiful First Nations lady for 40 yrs and have been witness to the discrimination held by too many, still, especially amongst the older folk. Mistakes of the past don't have to be mistakes in our future.

Black folks' experience in this country is not much better. Racism in this country is perhaps more covert than the US (at least it used to be), but there is no mistake that it is very much alive and well in Canada.

We weren't very welcoming of any non whites. South Asians and Asians were discriminated against in a way that I'm ashamed of. I didn't speak up, despite being raised better than that. We are too mixed to discriminate. I'm older and wiser than that now.

Like I get the point of the post, but here let me just change where I was born real quick..

Aren’t we all

Which natives? The Iroquois who massacred the Hurons and stole their land??? 🤣https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/iroquois-wars#:~:text=Their%20raids%2C%20beginning%20in%201642,were%20decisively%20defeated%20in%201651

That's not true 😒 😁😁😁

It really isn't.

I was making a funny. The emoji at the end of my comment is making the same face as the characters.

I guess I find it sad. Where I live, most people make a real effort toward reconciliation, and it's never been a problem for me.

Nor I

The European legacy.

Less than 200,000 people were living in Canada when the Europeans arrived. They were spread out across the vast land.

Don't forget also that during the colonization period the Europeans themselves were increasingly killing each other en masse in Europe, progressing with that art for every century.

Don't forget also that colonialism improved health care systems, enhanced civilization, restored women’s rights, developed infrastructure, provided food security, political development and promotion of democracy, reduced poverty gaps, provided literacy through education and made slavery illegal.

Absolutely right about slavery. Interesting fact - when France abolished slavery in the 1840s, the process of emancipation went most smoothly in her then Caribbean possessions. Not so in the African ones, as neighbouring rulers opposed it because their slaves started escaping to French territories.

And let's not forget that white Europeans were stolen for over 300 years and sold into slavery by blacks and North Africans during the Barbary Slave Trade. Virtue signalling white idiots here don't know half the history! www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-plac...

Most Canadians are focused on their home countries, not on Canada.

Same here after the MC reads a land acknowledgment before a U of MN associated concert.

As a Brazilian, I must say that one thing is when you visit Canada. Other thing is when Canada visits you.

Not this Canadian! I'm proud and humbled to live in Mi'kmaki, the unceded territory of the Mi'kmaq people. My settler ancestors have been here peacefully for 13 generations and I am grateful to be in the most beautiful place on earth. 🧡

* mostly peacefully lol 😜

Haha they’re doing it in the comments

It's literally in the song. Our home and the native's land.

Honestly, Canada seems better at trying to heal their past mistakes than the US. In fact, based on what US history is and current times, id say we have no right to chastise them about it.

They were massacring other tribes and stealing each others land when Europeans first got here. We saved them from genocide. Somehow, I can't find one single native who wants to go back to living in a flea infested teepee, hunting for food all day long. www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/i...

You don't get it do you? Many US natives already live like this because of how we screw them out of a chance to heal and better themselves. The majority of US natives live in very very low poverty. They do not live in "flea infested" squalor like you think. They are better than that; check yourself

What are ya? Some kinda white savior who came to impose their own thoughts and feelings on a people they assume have no agency to solve their own problems. 🤣 Do you really think they're all that incompetent??? 🤣 Biggest behaviour issue among some of them is alcoholism. Lots of people quit fool.

All this trauma builds up numb nuts, thats the point I'm making. Trauma is also passed through the generations and if bad enough also affects the DNA of those after them.

Oh and the entire story about how we committed genocide on the tribes who considered "Mt.Rushmore" their sacred land and home then defaced it with the faces of white men

Oh and another one is building a massive oil pipe thru their land which, by the way, will always leak to some degree

Or how about all the f-ing whites who think that kidnapping native women to grape and murder them; some don't even get found

Them is ok;**

For example, transporting radioactive substances trough and around native lands in a dump truck that is only loosely covered by a tarp

Through**

Oh and to be fair the " not letting them heal" part actually comes from specific decisions from non-native people who keep making decisions that harm the native communities.

Actually, the knowledge i know is based on first hand account from someone who lived on a reservation.

🤦 Oh no! You get your knowledge from another sorry excuse of a drunk who doesn't want to accept responsibility for his bad behaviour....🤣 You're hilarious! What grade are you in anyways???

My god you're repulsive.

You don't get it, do you. Women are raped at 10X more than the national average on reservations by indigenous men. You're white saviour complex is getting really thin pal.....🤣 most indigenous people are grown ups and know the difference between right and wrong. www.aptnnews.ca/national-new...

The majority of natives are well educated, hardworking people who DO NOT live on reservations. They have good jobs and families. Look at you trying to make excuses for their bad behaviour..🤣 They didn't need 'us' to heal and better themselves. They are quite capable of providing well for themselves.

Counterpoint: I'm going to remind them anyways lol

Counter counterpoint. Many MANY canadians know this and are working toward healing. I didn't ask for this,but im damn sure gonna do my best to make up for it. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...

I'm glad. I don't think the continued effort to work towards reconciliation requires constant reminders and reinforcement. ❤️

Americans surely, or is this satire?

Sadly, the satire is that while they're trying to blame white man for all their woes, women and kids on reservations are sexually assaulted at 10X higher than the national average by indigenous men. EVERY POLITICIAN KNOWS ABOUT IT. No wonder we have so many #MMIWG! www.aptnnews.ca/national-new...

We would like to acknowledge that we are on Chipewyan land. It was never ceded, but stolen. Always was, always will be.

They're on "Conquered" land. Fixed.

Ѕεε. Тнαт's wнαт Ι alωαуs тнουgнт. Fοr mε тнαт ριcтυrε ωαs sαyιng тнαт тhε fαmιlу ωαs mαd ьεcαυsε Нοmεr dιdn'т κnοω тнε ρrορεr ωοrds. Нοω cαn тнεy ьε οn "Nαтινε" lαnd ωнεn ιт нαs ьεεn cοnqυεrεd lαnd. Nοω ιт's αll Cαnαdιαn's lαnd

We all know we're on native land, it's in our national anthem. LOL! Who came up with this!?

I just think doing a land acknowledgment before every meeting dilutes the importance of it. Also, all land is stolen if you go back far enough. There’s a point where it stops being about respect and starts being about making people feel bad about things they never did, and that helps nobody.

It's about holding the government of Canada accountable to treaties they signed to respect Indigenous sovereignty and share the land with care, but sure keep pretending it's about making white people feel guilty.

It’s important, I’m not arguing that. The importance of it needs to be respected.

What I was trying to say is that if it’s done too frivolously, it feels like it’s just lip service and people get desensitized.

It's up to everyone to make it meaningful. It has made a profound impression on me.

Yeah remember when the King did a land acknowledgment?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlG1...

Colonizers hate being reminded of their atrocities

You can't call them colonizers if they're not colonizing anything

Bruh that was indeed a magic take

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_a...

When will the inuits be ready to take over Canada?

I mean, it's always awkward when someone who has benefitted just as much from the system created by the colonizers decides to act morally superior to their neighbors simply for recognizing what everyone already knows. 🙄 I love being guilted for things that happened long before I was born.

Well us Native folk are still suffering from the stuff that happened "long before you were born". Nothing has changed, the oppressive systems are still in place.

Sure, but again, and i can't emphasize this enough: blaming people for the crimes their ancestors did is counterproductive and is essentially a guilt trip manipulation tactic. That said, these systems do need significant reforms to ensure justice & equality for all.

This.

We know we're on stolen land. Do americans realize they are too?

Bold of Ned to drive without his glasses!

*crafts three-hour-long deep dive Simpsons conspiracy video about it*

Everyone is on land that belonged to someone else. I dread the day chimpanzees find the bonobos. It is rare to see a land occupied without military might but common themes and progressive politics can spread ideas like social democracy across Europe. Humanity has this flaw about greed and power.

They like to play silly and pretend they didn't accept payment in the treaties they signed too, lol.

No one seems to bring up the continued oppression of Canadian natives. Just the maple syrup.

Ford is one of the worst oppressors! He's also a rich colossal lying pos!

Yup... no one...not a single person.... oh ffs 🤦 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_a...

Just visit any rural town and see how fucking horrible the colonizers are to the indigenous people. It is sickening.

Yep i know even though i still prefer Canada over here right now. Can’t even get out of the house without paranoia of what if some extremist republican shoots me just for being trans.

Yea. It is about to get nightmarishly bad down there. Stay safe and if shit really hits the fan, flee to Canada. We will figure out how to shelter you.

In BC, just go visit any of the small reservations and see how the system has worked against them for generations. It is a stark tragedy to this day that most people are totally ignorant about.

Oh God. Don't even get me started on the reservations. It is fucking horrible. Fuck Trudeau for not following through on his safe water promises

I actually like singing the anthem that way....our home on native land ...hoping one day they change the lyrics to that.

Wait, they don't say it that way where you are? Oh snap, just looked it up. I thought they changed it to "on" federally but turns out nope. Well that's dumb. Me and mine been singing it as "on" for easily a decade but turns out that was an alteration by Jully Black. I like it better, more honest.

I get it…. But who gave the land to you?

All the Canadian citizens crashing out in the comments really not beating the allegations

Americans should be reminded they are all immigrants if they are not indigenous.

Included the Indigenous. They came from India.

And I don’t think they took that land legally

Exactly.

Everybody, even aboriginal, is on what used to be wilderness. Peoples who have arrived later have been jerks to peoples who arrived sooner. God did not desire that this be the case. The devil did.

Walls of Jericho?

Whether or not this account is literal, Jericho represented a civilization of menace. Not even God can literally annihilate a person -- not without violating his own definition of what a person is.

The Israelites attacked Jericho at God's command.

A guy said his god wanted them to attack Jericho. Spoilers - there was no god

God didn't make such statements out of vanity -- Jericho was horrible and mighty. This was also still in a sinners' covenant phase of revelation. The story was going to later serve as a spiritual metaphor in the Christian context. The means of breaching the wall is crucial to the story.

I mean also, we do try more today to be higher minded, but Jericho could be thought of as an analogue to a fortified North Korea. And then God tells South Korea to do what... march and sing around the fortifications? It sounds absurd. But it worked.

History is written by the victor.

But also weren't you complaining that God told the Hebrews to slaughter Jericho? We do find it archeologically as a failed, but large city. This is why I don't harangue people to necessarily take it all literally, when the spiritual point is the most important thing.

This is why I have problems with religion. Some people will say that it isn't meant to be taken literally, whereas others insist that it must be.

Understood -- I go for the spiritual road, for whatever it's worth, letting questions of exact physical correspondence remain academic questions that don't impact my own spiritual life in embrace of Christ spirit. I can certainly allow for Jesus as a one off literal miracle.

But Jericho is verified to have reason to be known as a large flop.

This victor is saying they were a great horde? Not.

Additional history is found by the archeologist.

I can't imagine that you would find any sincere archaeologist who would say that Jericho was analogous to modern day North Korea.

Isn't your judgment of "sincere" another instance of "the victors write the history"?

Same goes for Americans too

Goes for everywhere speaking English, French, Spanish or Portuguese that's not on the European continent, really.

Jokes on you I’ve got indigenous heritage

Visited Canada last year and every single tour guide mentioned The First People.

Did they mention how they were massacring other tribes and stealing their land when Europeans first got here? We're the ones that put a stop to that and saved their asses. www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/i...

Oh, well then, as long as they mentioned it.

Better than the erasing it that the US it doing

What the US does or doesn't do is actually irrelevant to whether Canadians are able to face the fact that they live on stolen land. Historical acknowledgment is but one part, and the least demanding at that. Much harder to grapple with what it means about resources and power in the here and now.

Natives when you tell them they're hoarding land from people who don't have it:

Sadly this is true

Americans are Just as bad. It's a white thing.

🤣

America is on. Native land

I'm grateful to be living on this beautiful land. I have no allegiance to the Canadian state, but rather to this land we all depend on.

And Americans.

Americans after you remind them that they are on Native land:

Acadiens held no quarrel with their indigenous brothers. Thanks, respect and friendship most likely

also canadians when you ask them to not get mad everytime they see an Indian guy on a min. wage job.

No. Just the maga conservatives. They're less than 30% of the population (still too many, but ya can't fix stupid)

Pierre and his goons were about to win the last election not even a year ago, if it wasnt because of Trump's threats of war, canada would have gone full MAGA by now. Canada has a racism problem as big as any other country.

Wow. You used quite the ignorant brush to paint quite an inaccurate picture. You're not worth engaging in if that is how you're going to boil everything down.

How Americans do it.

No, not native land. Land that the natives moved onto first without asking anyone's permission.

Yeah, I wonder who they massacred and stole the land from when they came across the Bering Strait?

That is not known as far as I can see. But what is clear is that it it was land which wasnt theirs.

Australians too. They have instant rage and deny reality because their egos are too fragile to accept the truth.

I think because we’re introduced to the Acknowledgement of Country all the way back in primary school assembly, so we associate the AoC with being in school, with our boring-ass teachers enforcing strict-ass rules.

That’s the idea. To be coercively controlled, manipulated, and conditioned to accept genocide.

But aren’t the schools the ones doing the controlling and manipulating?

People do the controlling and manipulating. People are diverse therefore the roles that they choose to be in to execute their goals are also diverse.

So like… are you pro or anti Acknowledgement of Country, then? Because I swear, sometimes it’s hard to communicate online.

I agree, this format for communicating has its pros and cons. There’s no tone of voice, facial expressions, body language. I like this post by someone on this platform… 🌹 how about you Land Acknowledge that you need to give Land Back

Yup. While they're busy trying to blame white man for all their woes, women and kids on reservations are sexually assaulted at 10X higher than the national average by indigenous men? EVERY POLITICIAN KNOWS ABOUT IT. No wonder we have so many #MMIWG! www.aptnnews.ca/national-new...

Let's be clear, First Nation folks were pretty screwed by colonial powers when they were conquered and screwed further for a long time.

If you want to know why FN's are screwed up, read indigenous author/former attorney Harold R. Johnson's bestselling book "Firewater". 50% of incarcerated indigenous people suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome. They need to straighten up themselves and stop blaming everyone else.

However, their situation ain't exactly unique, land changes hands, happened here, happened in the old world, so I'm just not sure why folks pull it up unless it's to intentionally stir the pot.

Not my problem. I was born here too

Has the RCMP recently evicted you from your home so it could be destroyed to make room for a pipeline? Do you have clean drinking water where you live?

If people suffer the consequences till now it kind of is your problem too despite the "grace of late birth". I'm German, I know what I'm talking about. Besides when we forget our own history we are doomed to repeat.

Important we do not have to be reminded.

Alas, many do need reminding.

😭 Natives when they find out no one is leaving

Personally speaking it makes me humbled and honoured to live on these great lands, I only wish people would do a better job preserving and protecting the lands that provides them the means of life. I do hope one day that Indigenous Peoples in Canada have a far greater voice.

This account of who was first is discriminatory. First nations have more rights than the tribes they displaced? French have more rights than english and they have more than italians and so on? Canadians are too polite to say the truth for a guilty complex. That's all.

As are all Non Native Americans

It seems Canadians are more open to the idea they were not the first there. They call Indiginous people "First Nations."

Truth and Reconciliation. We have land acknowledgement before every government session and in the schools as well.

Like plonking down a sign every day that says "btw, we stole this"

Indian is not a correct term for natives. Columbus's mistake, not the indigenous peoples.

True.

It’s more so that’s what they like to be called. We don’t make a big deal about that or call it “woke”

Maybe

To clarify, First Nations are one group of Indigenous ppl in Canada. The other two groups are Inuit & Metis.

"We didn't take it, we encroached upon it without treaty!" Lots of people using big words they don't understand.

Well it is "home and native land" 😜😉😊

Every time I go somewhere the first thing is acknowledging the fact we are on first nation land/territory of treaty 7. there are even roads named after different nations like Mohawk, Cayuga, Seneca, Onondaga, Oneida and more

Isn’t every person on Native land? Every country has had cultures/civilizations that existed there before the ones now, that were pushed out or diminished.

not mexico. most of the nation's population has indigenous genealogy. and India's population has been consistent for about...I wanna say 300BC? so I mean there's plenty of examples out there

Yeah...AUSTRALIA!

Yeah… Ireland!

Even the Britons were subjugated by the Romans and then 'taken over' by the Angles, Saxons and Jutes.

Mexico, Peru, China, India… not the whole area, but large parts of these countries are still populated by natives.

Yeah. Americans react the same way.

They don't "come with hat in hand", Doug. They're there to collect the rent. mf.

I LOVE THIS ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

I like how no matter how you look at the picture it works. Either the Canadians are pissed and the one making the observation is fine or the Canadian is oblivious and those making the observation are annoyed. A rare universal meme