Nope. Why is this such a hard moral concept for you to grasp? Democrats will NEVER regain the Presidency until YOU stop supporting genocide. Why is supporting genocide so important to you?

Because democrats also have a lot of money invested in it

It’s a fallacy to proclaim that people who voted for the lesser evil support genocide anymore than the people who stayed home knowing Trump would likely win and that would lead to continued genocide + further atrocities.

It's no fallacy. The United States gov't is corrupted by the Zionist state of Israel and complicit in the genocide of Gazans. You wouldn't rationalize the Germans who supported Hitler and the Holocaust, would you? Your tolerance, your vote for, your rationalization of ethnic cleansing IS WRONG.

The situation in Gaza has continued to worsen under Trump but now we have concentration camps on American soil and people being disappeared off our streets, vaccines made unavailable and rampant gerrymandering to keep people in power who will never back off from genocide on top of it.

Because you voted for the DNC Zionist candidate. Because you didn't care about the deaths of innocent Palestinians. Because you continue to advocate for Zionist Democrats WHO CAN NOT WIN. BECAUSE WE WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ZIONISTS, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.

So you're effectively saying burn it all down because the candidate we had available to us was wishy washy on the Palestinian situation? I guess fascism is worth it if you get to stand on your soap box, eh?

Every time I see this conversation they never adopt the same point of view with Russian genocide of Ukrainians. Your wasting your breath trying to appease this sick train of thinking.

What sick train of thinking? I support Ukraine.

Thank you. I support Palestinian independence.

accusing a person who is speaking up for a genocide you could care less about of ‘soapboxing’ kind of says more about you than them

She was not "wishy-washy". She's a Zionist who funds innocent babies being shot in cold blood. With our tax dollars. And she takes bribes from AIPAC, which is money laundering our tax dollars. Yes, the entire corrupt DNC is burning to the ground, as it should. Why are you defending genocide?

these people are those that would rather see ALL die if they don't get their way...these are the people that go fuck right off🤬fucking #traitors

Why are you defending fascism?

You don't think israel has gone fascist? Where do you think your tax dollars and arsenal went in 2024? To defend what? Where we you when the Biden administration was helping to shut down campus protests to benefit Israel covering up atrocities and war crimes? Harris knew by May 2024 it was genocide

2>You all are implicitly asking fellow American voters -- even ones who don't live in swing states -- to give a pass to the murder of children -- actual murder of them -- and other non-combatants -- to protect your domestic choices. The answer -- rightly -- is no. bsky.app/profile/lees...

To be absolutely clear here, I'm saying how can we (America) help Gaza if we (America) is falling apart. With Harris the people had negotiating power, we could actually get through to our elected officials. Now we have two options, bend the knee to Trump or be silenced. How does that help Gaza?

I have thought from the beginning the inverse (and bear with me for a second): What's going in the US is the blowback not just from our very wrong imperialist thrust in the Middle East stretching back decades, but specifically the profound contradictions and corruptions born of the US promotion of>

2>Zionism. I want to be really careful to make it clear I am not talking about a conspiracy or Jewish influence -- please, I'm not an antisemite. But a really lethal alliance beween our military industrial complex and the near impossibility of securing a Jewish state that behave the way this>

3>one has over decades, has really suborned a lot of the American political process, to the point we are now faced with really damaging restrictions on speech and movement in this country to prevent criticsm of Israel from anybody. So I'm suggesting to look at it the other way around: If the US>

How would electing Kamala help Gaza? I really think you are highlighting the cognitive dissonance people have about many Democrats. Biden and Harris were in power and still sent money and arms to Israel despite the obvious war crimes of Netanyahu and the IDF. Marjorie Taylor Greene is better.

Never said Israel wasn't fascist, because they absolutely are. But please tell me how choosing Trump over Harris was the better option for Gaza. Because that's what you dumb motherfuckers did by voting third party just to be able to morally grand stand.

We didn't vote third party. We didn't vote. When you dismiss that as "moral grand-standing", you are revealing your bias against brown human beings. You seem to think Harris was "better" for Gaza than Trump and you have nothing to base that on. Biden/Harris were in power and allowed genocide.

And why not "moral grandstand" if you don't live in a swing state and your vote won't change who wins? Write in something pointed instead rubber stamping what's hurting others. Had every anti-genocide voter outside a swing state written in Anti Genocide, it would have been noticed.

I call it moral grandstanding because of the lack of foresight. At LEAST we as voters would've had a chance at convincing a Harris administration of supporting a two state solutions. We at LEAST could've voted in more progressive politicians to the house and Senate. But oops fascism.

Harris supporters made it absolutely Clear They will nevert ever change, and never ever listen to anything any liberal says. they'd tel any lie, kill any number of people, for eternal holy war. They are worse than israelis worse than Trump. And trump will be good for them; Hes a step up from them

You have got to be kidding. America descending fascism is the better option!?! How could starting another Genocide, but on American soil be the better option? Or has all actual rational thoughts just flown out the window?

What chance? This is where you go wrong. Harris is an AIPAC Zionist whore. Periodt. We did vote for progressive politicians. We did not vote for Zionists. STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR ZIONISTS TO END GENOCIDE, IDIOT.

So you really think that between Trump and Harris that Trump is the more reasonable one and the better option for Gaza? You folks also seem to be completely ok with Trump tearing families apart with these insane ICE raids. It really boggles the mind.