i love how utterly deranged this screed by the Vice President is there's so much to unpack here americanmind.org/salvo/americ...
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..so more of Vance & Pedo Pres demanding people "say thank you"??? Be "grateful"?? WTAF are these morons making millions off crypto & backroom deals even trying to pull now, besides a lame attempt at a modern "let them eat cake"?
aug 10, 2025, 9:42 pm • 1 0 • view
"We have to build and create" - the party that was too lazy to actually build America so they enslaved multiple races to do it for them
aug 11, 2025, 4:49 pm • 0 0 • view
I stopped at ‘foreign religions’. Kudos to anyone who made it to the end of this unhinged drivel.
aug 10, 2025, 5:51 pm • 4 1 • view
I don't like the guy, but I can see how this speech would resonate with some (many) people.
aug 10, 2025, 10:13 pm • 0 0 • view
JD Vacation throwing out red meat. POS.
aug 10, 2025, 5:23 pm • 14 0 • view
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aug 10, 2025, 6:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Vance: here are a few good points and a few insane lies, pay attention to this instead of the fact that I'm stealing your health insurance.
aug 10, 2025, 9:05 pm • 1 0 • view
His economic message is all muddled, he claims to want to support a protectionist, native worker focused, almost Keynesian style of policy while his administration is speed running its way into a Milton Freidman style deregulated, anti-union, libertarian utopia.
aug 10, 2025, 6:18 pm • 10 0 • view
I do not hate their voters, I hate their leadership's core ideal that the only good policy is selfish, self-centered policy and people who support broadly beneficial social policy are ungrateful, lazy, unworthy 'leeches' on society and not both contributors and beneficiaries of that system.
aug 10, 2025, 6:18 pm • 7 0 • view
Fascists print the currency to try to create full employment for their followers via military, ICE, or whatever public employment Fascism needs Thus the “Keynesianism” tones I mean, Mussolini, Hitler, Keynes & FDR understood the state creates the currency that everyone relies upon
aug 10, 2025, 6:23 pm • 0 0 • view
*I* hate their voters. Selfish, hateful trash.
aug 10, 2025, 9:04 pm • 0 0 • view
It was for a specific audience: the lunatic far-right-wingers at Claremont. They are on board with all of it. Normal people will be disgusted by it.
aug 11, 2025, 12:46 am • 2 0 • view
deranged is the perfect word for it.
aug 11, 2025, 6:36 am • 0 0 • view
yeah, the insistent parts about founding ancestors "carving a nation from a wild country" and "taming a wild country", that's, well.
aug 10, 2025, 6:13 pm • 3 0 • view
"remember when America was built on destroying the land and mass killing natives ? well. that was great. that's it. that's the plan."
aug 10, 2025, 6:15 pm • 4 1 • view
You don’t even need to read this, just look at how many times his paragraphs are one sentence. A total imbecile.
aug 10, 2025, 8:13 pm • 3 0 • view
His ideas are twisted, ignorant, and, certainly, un-American. He asks who the hell do we think we are? We’re people that care about each other the same way he claims to love and care for his kids, and we want a safe and decent future, understanding, empathy, compassion for ALL.
aug 10, 2025, 5:46 pm • 4 0 • view
It’s like ‘sociopathic chameleon’ falls short of describing his nature as a malleable knave. He’s more like that pile of poo that ate Tasha Yar on Star Trek TNG, a selfish puddle of enmity and dark ambition. I wish America could maroon him somewhere and then prank call him like in Lower Decks 🤷♂️
aug 10, 2025, 6:12 pm • 5 1 • view
He’s doing “Did you even say thank you once” to Zohran. It’s like his one shtick.
aug 11, 2025, 5:50 am • 3 0 • view
A society/nation/civilization cannot survive if those in power have no morals, ethics, principles nor integrity. Everything they do will have evil and destructive consequences.
aug 10, 2025, 7:31 pm • 3 0 • view
1/ “His victory was the product of a lot of young people who live reasonably comfortable lives but see that their elite degrees aren’t really delivering what they expected” And Trump’s victory was the product of a lot of old people who live reasonably comfortable lives too.
aug 11, 2025, 9:06 am • 4 0 • view
2/ It was “locally rich” white people, those who had higher incomes than others in their zip codes, who were much more likely to support Trump than those who were locally poor. These people might make less money than a wealthy person in a big city,
aug 11, 2025, 9:07 am • 1 0 • view
3/ but were doing relatively well when compared to their neighbors. The rage that MAGA channels is not "the anti-system rage of a low education person with no hope and no good job prospects" but instead, "the anti-system rage of a low education,
aug 11, 2025, 9:08 am • 1 0 • view
4/ locally well to do guy, who is irritated people always want to talk to his college professor brother, even though he makes more money than him”.
aug 11, 2025, 9:08 am • 1 0 • view
Conservatives want everything to go back to what it was, and never change. God help us, where would we be then?
aug 11, 2025, 1:11 pm • 0 0 • view
My brain needs a shower now.
aug 10, 2025, 8:29 pm • 3 0 • view
Of all the willful ignorance here, calling Black people “blacks” is perhaps the loudest and most telling.
aug 10, 2025, 5:15 pm • 51 1 • view
Oh yeah they've really leaned into that phrase this year and the media let them normalize it within months
aug 10, 2025, 5:59 pm • 20 0 • view
I’ve definitely been seeing it around, and it’s jarring each time. I know the hwytes know too. Anyone under age 70 knows for sure.
aug 10, 2025, 6:01 pm • 13 0 • view
Some of them (especially Trump himself), say "the blacks."
aug 10, 2025, 6:51 pm • 4 0 • view
Absolutely unhinged.
aug 10, 2025, 11:05 pm • 0 0 • view
You can't demand gratitude, only the performance of it. This is the way abusers speak
aug 10, 2025, 7:43 pm • 6 0 • view
TBF he got AI to write it bc that is what Uncle Pete said to do and he always follows along.
aug 10, 2025, 9:03 pm • 0 0 • view
We should demand that the Vice President have respect for all cushions, whether on love seats or sectional sofas, bolstered or not. He should show some gratitude or he'll soon find his options limited to My Pillow factory seconds and returns.
aug 10, 2025, 11:30 pm • 0 0 • view
"Foreign religions" and "these people" stand out to me as particularly disgusting.
aug 10, 2025, 7:16 pm • 6 0 • view
"We all should have a profound sense of gratitude for the many blessings our nation has given us".... He is obviously not a second class woman....nor a person of color, immigrant, nor an LGBTQ person. We will have gratitude for blessings when the terroristic white men stop taking our rights away.
aug 10, 2025, 6:32 pm • 5 0 • view
Let's just throw all the groups Vance doesn't like into an amorphous stew! So much easier to discredit a single group via their supposed association with any of the other groups!
aug 10, 2025, 8:02 pm • 2 0 • view
Coming from a guy who has totally made up his past...
aug 11, 2025, 5:34 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 10, 2025, 6:07 pm • 0 0 • view
JD can't defend his own extremist positions, so he argues against strawmen.
aug 11, 2025, 12:31 pm • 0 0 • view
internet archive link for those who don't want to support this horseshit website with clicks
aug 10, 2025, 7:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 10, 2025, 5:19 pm • 40 1 • view
Great point!
aug 11, 2025, 12:46 pm • 0 0 • view
I have more pride in my country than magats do in their pinky. That’s WHY I’m so pissed 😅
aug 10, 2025, 9:11 pm • 2 0 • view
A guy said that he loves America and Republicans still are mad, interesting.
aug 11, 2025, 3:25 pm • 1 0 • view
Exactly. They reject creedal patriotism, which was the understanding of American democracy that most Americans came to hold in the mid-1900s. Instead, they are white Christian nationalists who believe in oligarchy, and much more Confederate/Old South mindset.
aug 11, 2025, 3:30 pm • 1 0 • view
I probably spend more time than anyone else thinking about one moment in the Kennedy and Nixon debate where Nixon tried to pull this and Kennedy shot him down.
aug 11, 2025, 3:33 pm • 0 0 • view
“in a globalized economy, we must be willing to penalize those who would build outside of our own nation” ymmv www.newsweek.com/full-list-tr...
aug 10, 2025, 5:56 pm • 6 1 • view
I’m not reading that!
aug 10, 2025, 6:08 pm • 1 0 • view
The only good part is where he talks about building infrastructure and investing in education in order to replicate great past projects such as the Moon landing. But it's also of course the only part where he's talking about things that his administration is in actuality explicitly destroying.
aug 10, 2025, 6:32 pm • 18 1 • view
I feel like this is the part that’s most striking about our politics is in some way if you blur your eyes Both sides are advocating for the same things, but the left is doing mostly the constructive parts and the right the destructive parts, but pretending it’s the opposite.
aug 10, 2025, 10:22 pm • 1 0 • view
In 2016 Bannon said the same thing: "We're going to build up America so much people will love us for 100 years." Then they... did nothing but tear things down and give more to the richest, who just kept it all for themselves. If the right was anything like JD's fantasy it might be worth something.
aug 10, 2025, 7:37 pm • 6 1 • view
The real America was in the richest all along
aug 11, 2025, 1:01 am • 0 0 • view
FBI should surround 1600 Penn. Avenue. trumpfile.org Head to the Capitol building and offices and isolate many a criminal. open.substack.com/pub/joneseli... MAGA crimes aplenty open.substack.com/pub/joneseli... & thebastionusa.com/violent-crim... And, so much more. open.substack.com/pub/joneseli...
aug 11, 2025, 1:15 pm • 1 0 • view
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aug 10, 2025, 6:20 pm • 0 0 • view
The blatant lying and the utter hypocrisy of his bs gets me every time.
aug 10, 2025, 5:55 pm • 2 0 • view
is this like a pre-draft outline wtf
aug 10, 2025, 8:53 pm • 2 0 • view
california is a good state. zohran is a communist. why would a gay like a muslim? billionaires support poor people. why would white people be anti white privilege?
aug 10, 2025, 8:56 pm • 2 0 • view
ol’ JD calling Democrats “arsonists” is beyond rich 🙄🙄🙄
aug 10, 2025, 6:54 pm • 4 0 • view
PP Pance
aug 10, 2025, 7:56 pm • 0 0 • view
He pretzels himself into an "intellectual" framework for Trumpism. The result is, shall we say, weird.
aug 10, 2025, 6:35 pm • 2 0 • view
I couldn’t make it past the third graph, my tolerance for bullshit isn’t high enough
aug 10, 2025, 5:57 pm • 2 0 • view
“Last week, a 33-year-old Communist running an insurgent campaign beat a multimillion-dollar establishment machine in the New York City Democratic mayoral primary.” If he hadn’t said New York I wouldn’t have had any idea what he was talking about
aug 11, 2025, 1:29 am • 3 0 • view
Daaaamn. I can't hear over the dog whistles in this unhinged piece. "Every Western society has demographic problems." "Social bonds form among people who have something in common." And can anyone cite an instance where BLM "led to anarchy in middle-class white neighborhoods?"
aug 10, 2025, 6:36 pm • 10 0 • view
I was actually really taken aback at how the pictured statement was used as obviously bad. Conservatives (including Vance, including especially actually Dear Leader Trump!) say worse things about America all the time. This is a rather nice sentiment really?
aug 11, 2025, 6:52 am • 159 10 • view
the notion that America is unfinished is also a pretty standard thing to say in civil rights context, has been said many times particularly for Baldwin and I can’t sleep but shouldn’t be searching for quotes but know I have this in phone
aug 11, 2025, 7:53 am • 3 0 • view
Why is Vance always hyper-focused on gratitude?
aug 11, 2025, 12:44 pm • 0 0 • view
make america great AGAIN
aug 11, 2025, 1:55 pm • 7 0 • view
of course they mean revert to Jim Crow and then don't change anything ever again
aug 11, 2025, 2:00 pm • 2 0 • view
thing is i could see the vance types say a very slightly modified version of this except meaning it racistly. notably the "contradictory" part would have to go though
aug 11, 2025, 7:59 am • 2 0 • view
“America is finished” is literally a Saturday morning cartoon Nazi thing to say
aug 11, 2025, 7:35 am • 22 1 • view
It's Vance's sheer opportunism that makes him dangerous IMO. Absolutely no core beliefs or values.
aug 11, 2025, 7:19 am • 10 0 • view
Ummm…isn’t the conceit of MAGA that America is unfinished and needs fixing?
aug 11, 2025, 7:16 am • 4 0 • view
"We should demand that our people, whether first- or tenth-generation Americans, have gratitude for this country." The total inversion of democracy that he envisions has the government demanding beliefs from the people instead of the people demanding action from government.
aug 11, 2025, 12:10 pm • 2 1 • view
Of course politician spins something rival team politician says as bad is dog bites man. What struck me more is that this statement was chosen, and was largely treated as just obviously bad. Curious stuff.
aug 11, 2025, 6:52 am • 44 0 • view
“America is beautiful…” Taking aim at a statement that only goes on to gives a sort of gloss for its affirmation was a sort of argumentative collapse by Vance. Also the idea of “achieving our union” is a centrepiece of American national mission - and implies that it’s still incomplete. Really odd.
aug 11, 2025, 7:22 am • 9 1 • view
The constitution famously begins: “We the people, having just come up with the most perfect union possible, …”
aug 11, 2025, 8:31 am • 0 0 • view
Who is being quoted there?
aug 11, 2025, 7:07 am • 2 0 • view
Mamdani
aug 11, 2025, 7:08 am • 3 0 • view
It's a nice sentiment!
aug 11, 2025, 7:08 am • 9 0 • view
Yup, how dare a politician run on something like "we need to make America great"
aug 11, 2025, 7:09 am • 1 0 • view
ironically it reminds me of a speech by mario cuomo
aug 11, 2025, 7:22 am • 0 0 • view
I genuinely want to understand what somebody like Vance sees wrong with that statement. Do you have ideas on this?
aug 12, 2025, 9:00 am • 1 0 • view
its fascinating that theyre like 'this is insulting rejection of our greatness' while simultaneously are embarking on a project to starve or destroy every part of the country they dislike
aug 11, 2025, 7:07 am • 28 0 • view
What actually made us America.
aug 11, 2025, 1:26 pm • 0 0 • view
I felt the same, poetic even.
aug 11, 2025, 12:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Vance is so disingenuous that he has literally become a grotesque figure that makes one feel filthy to see or hear. BBC had a fluff piece on him this weekend and it was obviously over the top propaganda to coddle a foreign leader.
aug 11, 2025, 1:32 pm • 0 0 • view
He’s mad that Mamdani isn’t grateful enough. The same thing he was mad at Zelensky about. The same thing he’s always mad about. We should get everyone to sign a big thank you card and leave it at the foot of Mt Rushmore. Then Vance can resign as VP, his work completed.
aug 11, 2025, 8:35 am • 24 3 • view
Worth noting, also, that what he thinks Mamdani should be grateful to the USA *for* is providing a haven for his father after he was expelled from Uganda by Idi Amin. But you can see on Wikipedia that this isn't what happened at all: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmood...
aug 11, 2025, 10:27 am • 7 0 • view
Agreed. It says a lot about Vance’s philosophical and moral landscape that this mild and hopeful statement is so threatening to him.
aug 11, 2025, 7:07 am • 16 1 • view
as the us's no. 1 hater, this statement is far too positive, if anything. why would you be proud of a country with the us's post-wwii geopolitical record? does mamdani hate humanity?
aug 11, 2025, 8:41 am • 1 0 • view
The Littlest Prince 🤑🛋🤑
aug 11, 2025, 8:51 pm • 0 0 • view
What an asshole.
aug 11, 2025, 4:30 pm • 0 0 • view
Colonialist bull shit. The American continent was wild and untamed.
aug 10, 2025, 8:46 pm • 0 0 • view
JD Vance is a trash human being and an embarrassment to America. If he was on fire I wouldn't piss on him to put him out.
aug 10, 2025, 6:39 pm • 6 0 • view
at least they've figured out that "gilded" means something different from golden
aug 11, 2025, 4:33 pm • 0 0 • view
“Consider: a movement that rails against the billionaire class despite the fact that the billionaire class remains firmly in its corner.” Brought to you by billionaire Peter Thiel’s ventriloquist dummy
aug 11, 2025, 12:24 pm • 2 0 • view
Once again, they immediately attack education. Since when, and more importantly, why is it looked down upon to be college educated? When did we stop caring about education? Who took us and our young adults down the road of turning on education? It is a dangerous road to travel.
aug 10, 2025, 5:44 pm • 6 0 • view
They're not against education for their kids. They're downgrading education for other people. All those people saying college is worthless. Send their kids to college.
aug 11, 2025, 4:20 am • 1 0 • view
Exactly!
aug 11, 2025, 4:24 am • 1 0 • view
His boss tried to be a Wannabe American Statesman at the Hague as potus 45. And Failed Spectacularly. He Stormed from the Lecturn because European Journalists asked Awkward questions. 45 couldn't handle it. Left the Finnish President agast. 🇮🇪🇪🇺
aug 10, 2025, 6:34 pm • 2 0 • view
Vance is a closet-case who hates himself and wants to make everyone suffer for it.
aug 10, 2025, 5:24 pm • 8 0 • view
Yes but this is fundamental to Conservatism... its need to force people to conform rather than live free authentic lives is an evil in our society. It really is a ideology of abuse (hence why they elect and elevate Pedophiles and Rapists)
aug 10, 2025, 5:34 pm • 6 0 • view
“Blacks” and “gays”. What a time to be alive.
aug 10, 2025, 10:45 pm • 1 1 • view
“”Last week, a 33-year-old Communist running an insurgent campaign”” Hehe. Lol. ROFLAMO
aug 11, 2025, 12:42 am • 3 0 • view
I couldn't read much further than his initial description of Mamdani and his victory. Absolutely demented.
aug 10, 2025, 5:10 pm • 27 0 • view
Same! My brain just noped out. I had a hard time getting past him referring to “our movement”
aug 10, 2025, 5:59 pm • 9 0 • view
It is as especially hard to read after reading this article earlier today: Why the Extremists Took Over on the Right share.google/70xuhQhkPXaD...
aug 10, 2025, 6:04 pm • 7 1 • view
I can’t make myself read it. Just here for the comments.
aug 10, 2025, 6:30 pm • 1 0 • view
The speech is full of lines that don'tmake sense, example: "in a globalized economy, we must be willing to penalize those who would build outside of our own nation"
aug 10, 2025, 4:06 pm • 94 1 • view
As counter-tariffs make it impossible for U.S. exporters to build here and profit.
aug 10, 2025, 4:33 pm • 47 1 • view
he's arguing that we can't let Americans leave or do business elsewhere because globalism is the devil.
aug 10, 2025, 6:11 pm • 4 0 • view
As an American living outside the country, that line definitely got my attention
aug 10, 2025, 7:38 pm • 1 0 • view
To be fair he probably had ChatGTP write it
aug 10, 2025, 5:27 pm • 5 0 • view
heh
aug 12, 2025, 3:28 pm • 0 0 • view
I don't want him being willing to penalize anything, we should cut his ability to penalize right off TBH
aug 10, 2025, 9:39 pm • 1 0 • view
Gilded Age billionaires are fast moving us to a #SoylentGreen culture.
aug 10, 2025, 5:28 pm • 1 0 • view
So "did you say thank you" but to all Americans :|
aug 10, 2025, 9:10 pm • 0 0 • view
Are we talking about this guy? The snake who has NO principles & will say anything at any time that he thinks is most beneficial to his career? The one who is sacrificing his own children - making them second class citizens because of their brown skin - for his ambition? Peter Thiel’s mini-me?
aug 10, 2025, 5:41 pm • 8 1 • view
I guess I'm missing where Mamdani's July 4th remarks are an insult to America when the Constitution's preamble seeks to achieve, among other things, "a more perfect union." Nowhere does Vance talk about making the US more just; I guess that's already been taken care of.
aug 10, 2025, 5:45 pm • 6 2 • view
Proving once again his aggressive ignorance on anything.
aug 10, 2025, 7:01 pm • 3 0 • view
“They don’t care that deporting low-wage immigrants will raise the wages of the native-born” Slave owners once tried to convince poor whites that they benefited from the slave system by keeping black people in a subordinate position. Now Vance is saying poor whites can replace slaves. Utter crap!
aug 10, 2025, 4:07 pm • 171 14 • view
Gee, I dunno, maybe turn the low-wage immigrants into high-wage immigrants by paying them more
aug 11, 2025, 4:26 am • 4 0 • view
I don't wanna read an article where Lazy Vance strokes himself off. Anyone want to summarize it for me?
aug 11, 2025, 2:44 pm • 0 0 • view
Spewing more lies that they are the party of the working and middle class, it reads like satire. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t coming from the U.S. Vice-President.
aug 11, 2025, 1:14 pm • 0 0 • view
The weird thing is, I agree with 50% of it (and strongly disagree with the other 50%) but his administration is only doing the bad 50%. He accuses liberals of tearing down institutions and. ***gestures everywhere***
aug 10, 2025, 10:20 pm • 2 0 • view
The amount of sht he made up is astonishing
aug 10, 2025, 11:41 pm • 14 0 • view
And yet, no longer surprising.
aug 11, 2025, 12:03 am • 4 0 • view
His only real accomplishment has been writing fiction. So, it tracks.
aug 11, 2025, 3:09 pm • 0 0 • view
YOU HAVE BEEN ON VACATION EVERY FUCKING MONTH THIS YEAR JD DID YOU EVEN SAY THANK YOU
aug 10, 2025, 6:58 pm • 12 0 • view
Must, must read. I had vile in my mouth throughout, but we have to know how they think and process the same situation we see and process. Vance represents a large group of Americans. Their lens is violent and discriminatory, at the core. Thank you, Sharon, for sharing.
aug 10, 2025, 5:36 pm • 0 0 • view
> Every Western society has demographic problems then look to the east! www.nippon.com/en/in-depth/...
aug 10, 2025, 3:50 pm • 10 2 • view
A walking DSM entry, that guy.
aug 10, 2025, 4:01 pm • 60 2 • view
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aug 11, 2025, 1:44 am • 1 0 • view
Makes you wonder if JD Vance also has a drug addiction problem?
aug 10, 2025, 4:39 pm • 20 0 • view
I think they all have the ChatGPT induced psychosis illness or whatever. Heh. Or maybe it’s just delusions of grandeur. Sometimes it’s hard to tell the diff.
aug 10, 2025, 9:54 pm • 1 0 • view
He has an addiction to power and is willing to do anything to maintain it.
aug 10, 2025, 5:48 pm • 21 0 • view
Accurate.
aug 10, 2025, 6:06 pm • 5 0 • view
Narcissism. He craved acceptance. Only got it when he went full belligerent MAGA. They take who drink the coolaid.
aug 10, 2025, 6:27 pm • 13 1 • view
love how he chides the left for only being against things and not being FOR anything in a speech that is built entirely on lies about the horrors that the left want to inflict on this country.
aug 10, 2025, 5:43 pm • 17 1 • view
They are so scared of Mamdani and politicians like him. Take note Dems.
aug 10, 2025, 6:24 pm • 3 1 • view
This guy ALMOST gets it. He recognizes that hatred of fascist power consolidation is the single through-line connecting the entire left, but veers off to declare that this is a BAD thing and that we need to support the fascists.
aug 10, 2025, 8:51 pm • 1 0 • view
He forgot to mention that the golden age is lame like the stuff they put on pants
aug 10, 2025, 4:38 pm • 2 0 • view
Least we know why he called Trump a Nazi. Familiarity.
aug 10, 2025, 6:24 pm • 2 0 • view
Thiel truly hasn't dom-ed him enough. That deep void can't be filled even after assuming all that power.
aug 10, 2025, 7:54 pm • 0 0 • view
JD Vance has quite clearly been steeping in the worst, most racist parts of the internet since like 1996. He's an early adopter, one of our first examples of what you get when someone that's 13 years old starts learning from every single school of racism at the same time.
aug 10, 2025, 3:55 pm • 311 25 • view
Yeah I mean the other obvious one is Stephen Miller, there are parallels between the experience of a downwardly mobile middle class white suburban kid and the experience of a downwardly mobile middle class white suburban kid (even if one was Jewish/in California, one was Hee-Haw-American/in Ohio)
aug 11, 2025, 12:55 am • 1 0 • view
There's a certain horror in considering I may have unknowningly interacted with him in an online forum. Did I get into a flame war with him or dogpile him out of GameFAQs and into someplace darker? Someone(s) out there helped his malignancy metastasize by calling him names online.
aug 10, 2025, 6:39 pm • 12 0 • view
Something radicalized him after his experience in Silicon Valley when he went to work for Thiel. Here's a tantalizing excerpt from Open AI about a piece in Axios December 2017
aug 10, 2025, 8:20 pm • 2 0 • view
“For two years, I'd lived in Silicon Valley, surrounded by other highly educated transplants with seemingly perfect lives. It's jarring to live in a world where ..." That's were it ends. I can't find any traces or mentions of that piece on the web.
aug 10, 2025, 8:20 pm • 4 0 • view
That's his self-reported turn. But I suspect he's always been a repellant entity and has never found "acceptance" until then.
aug 10, 2025, 8:30 pm • 4 0 • view
"repellent entity" is a good descriptor. I suspect he was also not a successful dater leading to his "single women with cats" screed.
aug 10, 2025, 9:42 pm • 3 0 • view
When people are called names or insulted they have choices and agency. Good people do not turn evil because they've been insulted. Vance was a selfish egoist long before someone called him an incel.
aug 11, 2025, 4:17 am • 0 0 • view
Recognize that white men can be innately cruel without being externally radicalized challenge.
aug 10, 2025, 6:54 pm • 12 1 • view
I mean, no they can't, it's just that "normal" cultural whiteness is the typical radicalization
aug 10, 2025, 8:41 pm • 1 0 • view
I mean, yes, they can. Some people are just cruel. And then there's the white supremacist infrastructure within which some innately cruel white men exist that exacerbates the issue. These things can occur simultaneously because sometimes more than one thing happens at once.
aug 10, 2025, 8:44 pm • 1 0 • view
I just mean that "innate" cruelty is rare and usually has to be taught in some way or another
aug 10, 2025, 8:48 pm • 1 0 • view
Rare things can be highly destructive sometimes.
aug 10, 2025, 8:55 pm • 0 0 • view
IMO, capitalism teaches cruelty. Harming other people is richly rewarded. ... However, about 5% of the population is naturally sadistic. To be clear, that means that harming other people makes them feel happy and empowered. Again, the structure of capitalism rewards their behavior.
aug 11, 2025, 1:42 am • 1 0 • view
I do. I was likely in the same spaces as him, but didn't turn out like him. Doesn't mean his interactions online didn't ooze dweebus through the CAT5 and cause people to call him out. Those interactions reinforced the misanthropy already in him, and I bet there's 1 or 2 usernames he blames/hates
aug 10, 2025, 7:10 pm • 6 0 • view
listening to the behind the bastards episodes on Curtis yarvin. highly recommend. all of these fuckers are Nazi pieces of shit and none of them are half as smart as they think they are.
aug 10, 2025, 5:44 pm • 3 0 • view
I think this is correct, but I also suspect at some point he lived on the mainstream of internet discourse when it was curated and moderated much more than it is now, and that his vector of radicalization slowed or stalled ‘til Trump I, when it went off the cliff completely and baked during freefall
aug 10, 2025, 6:48 pm • 31 3 • view
Yeah, a lot of Vance’s talking points are straight out of the War on Terror.
aug 10, 2025, 7:45 pm • 22 0 • view
If anyone understands and uses hate as an "animating principle," it is JD Vance. He told us Haitian immigrants were eating cats and dogs.
aug 10, 2025, 6:14 pm • 5 0 • view
Couldn’t bear to read it, but I gather from comments it’s warmed over Stephen Wolfe nonsense.
aug 11, 2025, 3:44 pm • 0 0 • view
No one argues against stuff that doesn’t exist more than JD Vance.
aug 10, 2025, 3:44 pm • 360 11 • view
Knock down the straw man you set up and then parade around like a king is what passes for thought with these voters
aug 11, 2025, 11:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Have you unpacked it? I'd love to see it
aug 11, 2025, 12:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Seems like the entire speech was an off topic culture war ramble
aug 10, 2025, 5:21 pm • 7 0 • view
What a bizarre speech. He attacks Mamdani for not being grateful and yet Vance's entire speech is just hatred for America as it currently is now. Hates illegal immigrants. Hates legal immigrants. Hates non-whites. Hates non-Christians. On and on.
aug 10, 2025, 6:51 pm • 15 1 • view
I wonder how his wife's parents feel about his claim they aren't “real” Americans and should be sent back to India. Any time he does a speech like this he's talking about them too - and his wife and kids.
aug 10, 2025, 8:16 pm • 5 0 • view
I mean for sure they think they’re one of the good ones.
aug 10, 2025, 10:36 pm • 1 0 • view
Protest against injustice is patriotic
aug 10, 2025, 6:25 pm • 2 0 • view
It won’t do that.
aug 10, 2025, 6:28 pm • 0 0 • view
He should save a lot of silly words and just point to where it hurts.
aug 10, 2025, 4:47 pm • 8 0 • view
He and his ilk have nothing to offer. He has no plan, no policy. All he can do is make up a set of evils of the Far Left.
aug 10, 2025, 9:03 pm • 0 1 • view
'Scuse my French, but he's a lying cunt.
aug 10, 2025, 6:10 pm • 0 0 • view
This guy projects so hard, he doesn't know what American values are he just knows that he needs to defend them and they should be reserved for people like him alone.
aug 10, 2025, 11:01 pm • 1 0 • view
"I don’t want to harp on a municipal election" Vance goes on about the municipal election for twenty paragraphs, went on a break to boast about destroying American industry and science, then ends with another ten paragraphs on the municipal election.
aug 11, 2025, 1:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Many, if not most Americans, look at the arc of history and see American society trending in the right direction. Poll tax bad, slavery bad, suffrage movement good etc. We are greatful for the struggle of those who made this happen. We are greatful to be able to keep up their work.
aug 10, 2025, 7:02 pm • 5 1 • view
We see America as great, but always looking to be better, to do better. Vance and his idiot cronies see the founding of something great by men who look like them....followed by a gradual erosion of their power over many decades. They are shallow, selfish people. They are un-American.
aug 10, 2025, 7:05 pm • 8 0 • view
Even the preamble to the Constitution contradicts him: "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union...." Vance is espousing "People Originalism." Only the same type of people who could vote at the time of the ratification of the Constitution, have any rights today.
aug 10, 2025, 7:57 pm • 4 0 • view
Constitutional Originalism is little more than anti-Vatican II in drag. medium.com/@thcarter123...
aug 12, 2025, 11:04 am • 2 0 • view
Great analogy!
aug 12, 2025, 6:13 pm • 1 0 • view
The oath of naturalized Russian citizens: "I solemnly swear… to be loyal to Russia, respect its culture, history and traditions." The oath of naturalized US citizens: "I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America…" The country JD Vance is describing is Russia.
aug 10, 2025, 8:26 pm • 5 2 • view
Yeah, you guys got it. I guess it comes down to what you want America to be and how much we are willing to sacrifice to keep on the path it's been post Jim Crow.
aug 10, 2025, 8:53 pm • 3 0 • view
and his eye liner!!!
aug 11, 2025, 8:44 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s such bullshit it’s hard to believe he wrote his own book
aug 10, 2025, 6:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Trad Catholic is what he wants and more and more young men are signing up for it.
aug 10, 2025, 6:28 pm • 2 0 • view
Leo XIV has the opportunity to do the funniest thing right now.
aug 10, 2025, 7:11 pm • 7 0 • view
That guy is as queer as a three dollar bill
aug 10, 2025, 3:54 pm • 21 0 • view
At least that's what all the men who slept with him in college say 🤷🏽♀️
aug 11, 2025, 4:48 pm • 2 0 • view
His whole story is actually an endorsement for going to college. Some dumb ass hillbilly went to college and then got rich. That’s exactly how America is supposed to work. That’s why we all love college.
aug 11, 2025, 4:55 pm • 2 0 • view
I don't think we're supposed to realize that he's the very elite he's talking about 🙄😅
aug 11, 2025, 4:57 pm • 2 0 • view
I think you also don’t quite understand how much the average stupid white trash American thinks they are just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire that has some kind of royal lineage.
aug 11, 2025, 5:00 pm • 2 0 • view
Yeah that's also a really weird American phenomenon that needs to be studied. It's weird.
aug 11, 2025, 5:05 pm • 1 0 • view
Well, it’s gonna sound crazy at first, but I’ve come to understand that the British royalty is trying to take America back and this is part of their psyop. They control Donald Trump with the Epstein tapes. The connections with King Charles are well documented and hardly a conspiracy theory.
aug 11, 2025, 5:22 pm • 0 0 • view
The British have done a major public relations campaign for literally hundreds of years at this point to soften up the image of the British royalty and make Americans want to “return to tradition “ aka Neofeudalism but in reality just the same old feudalism 1.0 who are sick and evil motherfuckers
aug 11, 2025, 5:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Is there any country that isn't running a fucking psy-ops on us???
aug 11, 2025, 5:25 pm • 2 0 • view
Honestly, probably not. When you’re number one you’re the bull’s-eye target for absolutely everybody. That’s why no empire lasts for that long.
aug 11, 2025, 5:26 pm • 1 0 • view
That being said, I think Putin is working with the British royalty because he is also one of those returns to tradition guys. He’s always talking about the middle ages and shit.
aug 11, 2025, 5:27 pm • 0 0 • view
No, there is nothing to unpack. We all know. People still vote for him, donors still give him money.
aug 10, 2025, 6:46 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm only a few sentences in, and I'm already wondering if these speeches always begin with such an effusive bout of self congratulations. Rather sickening
aug 10, 2025, 9:17 pm • 2 0 • view
J.D. Vance is an exteme radical and, worse, J.D. Vance is an ingrate. It is he who should have a profound sense of gratitude for the many blessings that THE PEOPLE have given our nation, the same people whose value he degrades by his participation in the very government that would make Lincoln cry
aug 10, 2025, 4:44 pm • 70 4 • view
Well since he very much echoes Douglass in his best moments and Calhoun in his worst, with a Lost Causer’s spur in his side at all times otherwise, it’s quite clear who he sees as the rightful winner of that 160 year old conflict.
aug 10, 2025, 6:50 pm • 8 0 • view
I mean, they did. It took them 160 years but the Civil War has ended in the confederacy’s favor. They never stopped fighting. We’ll have to dislodge them again. This time let’s murder them all instead of letting them back in the game. Lincoln chose to be nice & they killed him for it. Never again.
aug 10, 2025, 7:17 pm • 7 1 • view
"have you said thwank you once?"
aug 11, 2025, 8:23 am • 2 0 • view
What a little nazi piglet he is
aug 10, 2025, 5:47 pm • 2 0 • view