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Sharon @sharonk.bsky.social

right but these guys are like IJN holdouts who think they can return to the days of Clintonite consensus

aug 26, 2025, 3:49 pm • 24 0

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Reconstructionist @unavaleable.bsky.social

Also more importantly more negatively polarized against normie lib democrats than actual republicans

aug 26, 2025, 3:50 pm • 27 0 • view
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Sharon @sharonk.bsky.social

yes (there is a reason that he is basically indirectly complaining about how the critique jeffries there is based on race)

aug 26, 2025, 3:51 pm • 13 0 • view
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Reconstructionist @unavaleable.bsky.social

Like the issue with a lot of centrist dems of a certain flavor is they see other democrats as their main opponent to be broken, not coalition partners to work with

aug 26, 2025, 3:51 pm • 41 4 • view
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Art Demon @incubusintraining.bsky.social

We see the same with a lot of supposed leftists. Nobody hates Republicans to the extent they need to.

aug 26, 2025, 3:51 pm • 3 0 • view
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Andrew Robbins @robbinsa.me

the difference is that one of these groups is a marginal force in the party and one of these groups is not

aug 26, 2025, 3:54 pm • 2 0 • view
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Art Demon @incubusintraining.bsky.social

Yet that marginal force keeps costing elections.

aug 26, 2025, 3:56 pm • 0 0 • view
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Andrew Robbins @robbinsa.me

Found one.

aug 26, 2025, 3:58 pm • 1 0 • view
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Art Demon @incubusintraining.bsky.social

You found a Black person who's been repeatedly abused by the kind of people I'm talkin' about so well spotted I guess.

aug 26, 2025, 3:58 pm • 1 0 • view
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Fnord Borgly @borgly.bsky.social

Definitely don't see this dynamic anywhere else on the left spectrum.

aug 26, 2025, 3:58 pm • 0 0 • view
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Reconstructionist @unavaleable.bsky.social

And this usually ends up with "centrists against coalitions" mixed in pretty commonly anti-black racism brainworms

aug 26, 2025, 3:53 pm • 16 1 • view
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Buttadeus @thewanderingjew.bsky.social

Yeah. Like, I think they've polled themselves into Americans being center-right lazy douchebags (not ENTIRELY wrong) and have decided the goal is to appeal to them in that way, but there's actually no way to do that.

aug 26, 2025, 3:54 pm • 3 0 • view
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Cody Harrison @codyharrison.bsky.social

Difficult for me not to see what your describing as stealth republicans

aug 26, 2025, 4:05 pm • 1 0 • view