"National socialism is welfareism for white people"
"National socialism is welfareism for white people"
I know nothing about Hungary’s income tax system, but I’d bet my next paycheck that the fraud here practically does itself.
Nothing new. Right wing populists want welfare for white people and Jim Crow for everybody else. They’ve been pretty consistent about that since back when they were called Dixiecrats.
Exactly
As usual...
The welfare queens were black, this is talking about white people.
If at some point Republicans want to repeal this, they'll just start talking about black people using it. It's their magic "make the base mad" button.
(White babies)
Racism
well, I would assume there’s a color-related adjective they’re omitting from this tweet
Well, they're assuming the babies will be white, now
It’s important to note (as some others have) that this doesn’t apply to all Hungarians but if a certain class background
Well, they mean “white” babies.
No lies detected.
They are wildly inconsistent so half the Republican party is "more white babies!" and the other half is "keep your legs shut slut"
I'm amused at how immune to facts they are. The program clearly doesn't work and hasn't for a long time
I mean, it was always race. the fascists have been very consistent in their underlying motives, if not in their alibi.
Somehow tax breaks don't count as welfare.
(also obviously it doesn't count when white people)
The good news is all 4 kids will leave for Berlin or Amsterdam the moment they turn 18 because who the fuck wants to live in a fascist shithole like Hungary?
Welfare Queen stuff is still there, just targeted at people of color :/
it always was
Yep, even the so called moderate Kasich waived food assistance cuts he supported for certain areas only. Rural poor (white) because they deserved assistance.
Because the right is willing to openly present a concept of citizenship that doesn’t apply to anyone except white people
There's something about the babies in the picture that seems to be doing the work...can't quite put my finger on it...
this is only for white people
i’m sure the moment you propose adding fertility subsidies in the US the exact same people will be right back to complaining that they don’t exclude black people and frantically trying to come up with legally permissible race proxies to condition them on
for some context about hungary: they’ve been having a fight about school desegregation that should sound very familiar www.errc.org/press-releas...
and their fertility policies are heavily racialized
there’s a long history of US conservatives flip-flopping on social programs depending on whether they think they can make them discriminatory
Oh I have no doubt they could write a rule that wouldn't count non-white babies without having to mention race. Kind of like "Only people who can pass a civics test are eligible to vote. (*unless your grandfather was eligible to vote, in which case you're good baby)"
Just for fun, circulate this exact statement teh twitters, but switch out the white lady for a black lady and watch the hijinks ensue.
Damn, that’s crazy. I bet we see a really noticeable difference in TFR between them and their post-Soviet neighbors and I bet they have a way higher fertility rate than us.
To be fair, the US tax code packs in a ton of subsidies for middle class folks already. The secret welfare benefits the right frets about exist but they don't go to the folks they imagine they go to.
And I think there is a material difference (racism aside) between “have more babies and get to keep more of your money” and “have more babies and receive more of other people’s money”.
I got a huge tax incentive (spread over several years) for adopting.
They would only offer this to white women having white babies
Note that everyone in the picture is white. Also they're promoting this now because they know the Trump regime will impose policies that only benefit white parents, and John Roberts' SCOTUS will greenlight them.
also, this doesn't work. it's not money, it's time
Well, there is one key difference that explains it
Impossible to tell what it is
White Babies Matter
The "You're Wrong About" on Dan Quayle & Murphy Brown is so funny: "everyone keeps claiming 'welfare queen' is a coded racial statement, so let's go on the attack for a white high income sitcom character choosing not to get an abortion as an example of what we disapprove of."
Because they want white babies
I would say this is all just racism, but I feel like people would get upset if a bunch of folks in Appalachia were getting this as well (though probably less upset)
"They're the undeserving whites, whereas the mythical old stock of ancestral Europe is deserving by default. Don't ask why we're now saying that Eastern Europeans are white by default now, it's always been this way."
And probably not the same people that got upset about “welfare queens”
Yeah, Vance doesn’t want Those People breeding.
It's twistedly funny that the Nazis thought of eastern Europeans as subhuman chattel, but the 21st century Nazis think they're lily white Aryans
Oh, I’ve often wondered what Hitler would think if he saw 21st century Nazis looking longingly at RUSSIA as the last hope for white civilization.
Yes, the class markers presented here are important, which race is part of & often the overwhelming factor. Not easily reduced.
Yeah the main difference between being a "baby mama" and being a "trad influencer" is that the latter has a mountain of cash and can look cool and stylish while having 8 kids. Same reason the "Eat, Pray, Love" lady is seen as a model of independence and not a filthy slut.
The entire nation of Hungary is a welfare queen tbqh
"Germans call this sort of thing "a permanent bailout." We just call it "Missouri." South receives subsidies dwarfing the EU (larger than Germany and Greece!) a transfer of wealth from blue states/cities/urban to red states/rural/suburban with federal dollars for their hospitals, universities, even
to be clear germany deserves this and to pay more
Ask them what color babies
But those kids are white
Already negatively polarized into being extremely pro tax.
Note: Hungary’s income tax is a flat 15%, while they have a 28% VAT (a type of sales tax). So it’s not even a significant tax break!
The thing is that if a white woman had four kids she'd be acclaimed as "heroine of the nation" while if a black woman did likewise she'd be called a "vampiric welfare queen"
Hungarians are White, that's why they don't mind it (even though a lot of Romas could hypothetically benefit)