This jackass isn't good enough to shine Wattenberg's shoes.

Thanks!

This made me laugh. The United States is almost a century older than Italy!

When this nation was founded, central Italy was still ruled by the Pope! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_S...

Didn’t Germans sign a paper in like the 1880’s making them “Germany”? Before that they were a bunch of wackado duchies and principates - Saxony, Westfalia, Bavaria. Yall know, Crusaders Kings type shit

Germany existed as a political entity since 843 (with maybe a couple of temporary breaks in the Napoleonic era and right before unification), just not as a unitary nation-state in the modern sense.

But there was a Kingdom of Germany from 843 to 1806 (it was the main constituent part of the Holy Roman Empire), and there was a German Confederation from 1815 to 1866.

I knew about the Holy Roman Empire construct of Germany but I kinda always thought of it as a duchy inside the HRE. Completely forgot about the Confederation 🤣 Not to be a racists but they all look the same with their Prussian militarism uniforms 🤣

The Holy Roman Empire was three kingdoms, Germany, Italy, and Burgundy/Arles, the latter two of which gradually ceased to exist in any real way. But in Germany it was a real, functional political entity, with officials and judges and institutions.

Italy did not exist as a state until the mid-19c, but it existed as a nation going back to Petrarch. There's literally a chapter at the end of the Prince wishcasting that someone could unify Italy.

Yes, although I'm never sure the extent to which the Mezzogiorno was included.

It always was included; the Kingdom of Naples was not considered any less Italian than the Duchy of Milan.

Italy, on the other hand, was a geographical expression (there was a mostly notional "Kingdom of Italy" until the French Revolutionary era, but it never comprised the whole peninsula and after the 13th century was rarelly barely a thing anyway).

Also a Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy, which also was only part of Northern Italy.

Just last summer I was in Italy! Here are the keys to Milan given to Napoleon by Francesco Melzi d'Eril - symbolizing his dictatorship over the nation! In a park in Villa Melzi d'Eril in Bellagio!

"The Germanies"

yes, Ohio is actually older than "Germany" or "Italy"

Ohio is still the west in my heart! Midwestern Emo keeps the history of Ohios Westness alive! Actually as a Kentuckian, Ohio is just the north to me lol

1871, and they made sure to do it by proclaiming the German Empire in Versailles after humiliating Napoleon III. Imagine if the US declared independence in London after defeating George III.

Man that would have been sweet.

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ancient countries like Czechoslovakia, the Free City of Danzig

European small-r republicans spent 150 years looking toward *us* and the example of *our* history & model to inspire *them*

Also, it isn't. They're Kazakhs!

Damn I cannot believe a landlocked nation with a total population around that of the NYC MSA wouldnt be instantly turned into the global hegemon by changing its laws around

Must be because of the shapes of their skulls or something God, racists are so fucking stupid

"Kazakhstanis" is brilliant, a self-refuting statement

Kazakhstanis refers to all citizens of Kazakhstan regardless of their ethnicity. Not all Kazakhstanis are Kazakhs, not all Kazakhs are Kazakhstanis. The government itself insists on using it in most cases. They only really use "Kazakh", singular, as an adjective. qazinform.com/news/head-of...

TIL!

I had always assumed that Kazakhs was the demonym!

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Excellent, thank you! The few folks from Kazakhstan I've known have used "Kazakh" as the demonym, but it's never too late to learn new things.

Kazakhs are an ethnic group but Kazakhstani includes not just ethnic Kazakhs but all citizens of Kazakhstan regardless of ethnicity

I know an ethnic Korean Kazakhstani guy who is extremely particular about this haha

There's a huge ethnic Russian minority in Kazakhstan, iirc.

Russians are the single largest ethnic minority, but apart from ethnic Kazakhs and Russians, about 14% of the population are other minorities. stat.gov.kz/en/industrie...

Well...Kazakhs are the majority ethnic group, but you can also say "Kazakhstanis" if you want to make sure to include all citizens, many of whom are not ethnically Kazakh (e.g. Russians). It's the same in Turkey. A pedantic point except Schmitt is precisely debating ethnic vs. civic belonging!

You're right, I am hoist on my own pedantic petard; Kazakhstani is listed as one appropriate demonym.

Perhaps he is differentiating between ethnic Kazakhs and citizens of Kazakhstan, a significant plurality of whom are ethnic Russians and other formerly Soviet nationalities. If so, he is indisputably a Russian asset and must be arrested and yeeted into the sun at once.

overcorrecting for the p-word

LMAO someone corrected Hochmann in between posting the speech at Daily Signal and him promoting it online.

It’s a terrible comparison. Citizens of Kazakhstan are called Kazakhstani. Like 30 percent of the country are Russian or Uzbek or whatever. There was a community of hundreds of thousands of German speaking Germans there till not that long ago. Hochman is an idiot who knows nothing of the world.

Ethic Kazakhs are called Kazakhs.

At least that’s how diplomats do it.

This is coming from someone who would definitely reject the Constitution and all it stood for if the revolution were today

I mean he’s rejecting it right now so yeah that’s a safe bet

I don't want to pile on here but just to emphasize: you don't have to be an ethnic Kazakh to be Kazakhstani, you could be ethnically Russian, Korean, Uyghur, etc. It's a pretty diverse country

This is true of all of the "stan"s

not all of them, since not all of them derive their name from an ethnicity; Pakistan is not based on an ethnicity but was coined as an acronym of "Panjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh, and Baluchistan"

and while "Afghan" used to be synonymous with Pashtuns, it's now used for all citizens of Afghanistan regardless of ethnicity, so there isn't an Afghan-Afghanistani distinction

I'll admit I'm thinking primarily of the central asian stans. I guess people from Uzbekistan* play a bit loose with Uzbek vs uzbekistani too *personal sample size 2

It does work like that with all the post-Soviet -stans

The denonym for the country and the ethnicity being different I mean. It's like having a different word for being of Han Chinese background vs a citizen of China