I think the missing piece here is that we're angry at the *leadership*; we can't just agree to disagree when the top of the party pushes our ideals aside in the way we might disagree with a centrist voter or backbencher.
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Clearly being upset at Jefferies for critizing his members for holding up auction signs at the State of the Union helps Republicans
aug 31, 2025, 2:38 am • 1 0 • view
If you're complaining more about Hakeem Jeffries than about Donald Trump, yeah, I think that helps the Republicans.
aug 31, 2025, 2:43 am • 0 0 • view
Hello Mr. Strawman. Who the hell on the left is actually complaining more about Democrats than Republicans? Are you changing your position to allowing complaining about Democrats as long as you complain about Republicans more?
aug 31, 2025, 2:46 am • 1 0 • view
Changing his position would require him to have a coherent position to start with.
aug 31, 2025, 2:47 am • 0 0 • view
I'm honestly wondering why he votes Democrat. Because the degree of party loyalty tells me he would vote Democrat regardless of their policies or how nonexistent their resistance of Republican actions.
aug 31, 2025, 2:52 am • 0 0 • view
If you're really curious it's because Democrats halved the uninsured rate, opened up COVID vaccine patents, allowed Medicare prescription bargaining rights, capped insulin payouts, invested $400 billion in renewable energy, and forgave over $180 billion in student loan debt, among many other things.
aug 31, 2025, 2:58 am • 0 1 • view
So would you support Democrats if they stopping supporting these things? Say they stopped supporting the ACA and didn't push back against vaccine skepticism?
aug 31, 2025, 3:00 am • 0 0 • view
They already did these things, I vote for them because I want more of those things.
aug 31, 2025, 3:01 am • 0 0 • view
So they can start opposing the things they did before that you liked and you'll continue to support them. They can vote to repeal the ACA with Republicans, but you'll vote for them because they passed it once.
aug 31, 2025, 3:04 am • 0 0 • view
Every Democrat voted against Trump's Medicaid cuts, that's another reason I vote for Democrats.
aug 31, 2025, 3:04 am • 1 0 • view
When another party does better, I'll vote for them instead.
aug 31, 2025, 2:59 am • 0 0 • view
My position is (still) that being mean to Democrats doesn't help the Democrats, and that if being mean to Democrats did help the Democrats, Republicans wouldn't be doing it.
aug 31, 2025, 2:49 am • 0 0 • view
And my position is that there is a substantive difference between "being mean" to a party you want to influence and "being mean" to a party you want to destroy.
aug 31, 2025, 3:27 am • 1 0 • view
Yep, Republicans are mean to Democrats to scare them and amp up their base. Democrats are mean to Democrats to tell them what their own base will accept from them
aug 31, 2025, 3:29 am • 1 0 • view
I don't think the motivation makes a difference.
aug 31, 2025, 3:30 am • 0 0 • view
What about the content? You really think MAGAts and leftists are saying the same things about Democrats?
aug 31, 2025, 3:32 am • 0 0 • view
What is killing me about Jeffries right now is his inability to recognize the lightning in a bottle that Mamdani has caught. My ideal Dem leadership would be saying "Hell yes, more of this please!" And looking to encourage younger talent that resonates the same way in different parts of the country
aug 31, 2025, 3:17 am • 2 0 • view
He knows. It's active fighting against him, not ignorance or inability. He knows he can't endorse a left candidate without AIPAC and the rest of the party donor class becoming enraged.
aug 31, 2025, 5:52 am • 1 0 • view
Jeffries looks complicit
aug 31, 2025, 3:17 am • 1 0 • view
The entire Republican party IS complicit.
aug 31, 2025, 3:18 am • 1 0 • view
Which is why it is so frustration when some Dems try to meet them halfway! So, politics is compromise and Dems are out of power, so perhaps they can get them to soften their terrible policies to be slightly less terrible. That is a real good! But, I think it costs them at elections...
aug 31, 2025, 3:33 am • 2 0 • view
Because voters hear from them 'The GOP is horrible' but what they see is elected democrats working with the horrible GOP. Voters understandably are at best puzzled by this. So maybe it is better, electorally, that they go complete opposition even if it means no softening of GOP policies.
aug 31, 2025, 3:37 am • 1 0 • view
That softening really doesn't even work anyway. How many times have Democrats tried to work with Republicans and been stabbed in the back? Charlie Brown and the football. Every. Single. Time.
aug 31, 2025, 3:39 am • 2 0 • view
Here's a great read on this very point. Balko is one of my faves... www.theunpopulist.net/p/liberals-c...
aug 31, 2025, 4:41 pm • 2 0 • view
Yes indeed, and were it not for the char limit I'd have brought up specifics, especially around the budget. The next big gut check for Dems is going to be over supporting a GOP budget or not. I'm with Warren in that any budget they agree to isn't worth the paper so Dems need to reject it all
aug 31, 2025, 3:43 am • 3 0 • view
They chose to support some Trump nominees to win them over in opposing the worst ones like Hegseth. Republicans still pushed every single one through, and we get to see things like Rubio promote fascism after he was confirmed by every single Democratic senator
aug 31, 2025, 3:46 am • 1 0 • view