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Cheryl White @ladyscorcher.bsky.social

How is it better that she was a lapdog? I hear this argument a lot but principled action would have changed perspectives in important ways. The only reason to capitulate is attachment to her lavish paycheque.

aug 28, 2025, 6:13 pm • 4 1

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Dr. Bast 🇨🇦 @bastsbest.bsky.social

I said her replacement would have been a lapdog. As it was, she was too, and it was not better. We were doomed to have a lapdog, no matter what.

aug 28, 2025, 6:15 pm • 2 0 • view
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Cheryl White @ladyscorcher.bsky.social

That’s what I’m saying. She deserves to be condemned.

aug 28, 2025, 6:26 pm • 5 1 • view
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Dr. Bast 🇨🇦 @bastsbest.bsky.social

Totally - just saying that even.if she would have made a stand, we'd have been in the same situation. Lose-lose.

aug 28, 2025, 6:39 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kara McNair @karamcnair.bsky.social

Except that she could have said "no, this is wrong" and gotten some attention for it, highlighting the fact that her replacement was a lapdog, which could have been mattered. Complying in advance only helps fascists. The immediate results might have been the same but the CONTEXT would change.

aug 28, 2025, 10:08 pm • 1 0 • view
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Dr. Bast 🇨🇦 @bastsbest.bsky.social

I think I said that?

aug 28, 2025, 10:12 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kara McNair @karamcnair.bsky.social

I don't think so? The context is *part* of the situation and even if the immediate outcome around NPIs/vaccines were the same the context can impact the *next* thing that happens. So even if you have a lapdog CPHO you have people knowing that others objected rather than 'agreed'.

aug 28, 2025, 10:14 pm • 1 0 • view
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Dr. Bast 🇨🇦 @bastsbest.bsky.social

Well I did say - "I believe she should have stood her ground." So I'm not sure we're disagreeing...

aug 28, 2025, 10:20 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kara McNair @karamcnair.bsky.social

That's fair.

aug 28, 2025, 10:24 pm • 2 0 • view
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Kara McNair @karamcnair.bsky.social

(to wit: have you heard about the CDC walkout today? Prolly wouldn't have happened if not for the "Nope" from the top.)

aug 28, 2025, 10:10 pm • 1 0 • view
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Matt Oliver @sameo416.bsky.social

Might have brought it into stark clarity earlier. We have a Court of King’s Bench decision saying the CMOH unduly fettered her authority, but came out long after the fact. I’ve made mistakes, but so far never one that a court said involved violating the law (refusing to use authority).

aug 28, 2025, 11:23 pm • 2 0 • view
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Mike Vlasic @mikevlasic.bsky.social

A rationalisation for keeping her lavish paycheque? I wish all MOHs stood up and refused to toe the line. That would've been something. "We stand for Public Health, not harmful political BS." But I also hoped the world would stand up & refuse to trade with the USR.

aug 28, 2025, 6:16 pm • 6 1 • view
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Peter Louwe @peterlouwe.bsky.social

I believe New Zealand was the only country that put public health first. For a while.

aug 28, 2025, 7:04 pm • 3 0 • view
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Dr. Bast 🇨🇦 @bastsbest.bsky.social

China was pretty restrictive too.

aug 28, 2025, 7:05 pm • 1 0 • view
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Peter Louwe @peterlouwe.bsky.social

I hear that. But I don't trust any information coming from China.

aug 28, 2025, 7:10 pm • 1 0 • view
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Mike Vlasic @mikevlasic.bsky.social

Or from the US of Russia.

aug 28, 2025, 7:12 pm • 2 0 • view
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Mike Vlasic @mikevlasic.bsky.social

Ardern left & it was taken over by conservatives. Damn. I really like Jacinda.

aug 28, 2025, 7:05 pm • 3 0 • view
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Peter Louwe @peterlouwe.bsky.social

I'm sure the strain of fighting the monied class got to her. A handful of billionaires can really throw their weight around.

aug 28, 2025, 7:13 pm • 3 0 • view
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Mike Vlasic @mikevlasic.bsky.social

She'd just had a baby recently and said she wanted to focus on her family, but yeah, I have no doubt politics & the corporate class can wear people down. Her handling of the Christchurch shooting was great. Woke/empathy is never out of style.

aug 28, 2025, 7:17 pm • 3 0 • view