*whispers and ducks* why does it feel like the “never Gavin” people might be the same people who didn’t understand the assignment and didn’t vote for Kamala.
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I will vote for any not demented, not corrupt, not dictator, not pro disease candidate. If I wait for the person that reflects all my ideas I would never vote. I would vote Nixon back at this point.
aug 28, 2025, 4:49 pm • 6 0 • view
Remember, way more people voted for Orange H1tler than didn’t vote for Kamala. Some of us have trans lives and genocide as “do not cross” lines. But infighting makes sure Mango Mussolini gets away with more. We can all agree to oppose fascism.
aug 28, 2025, 1:26 am • 20 0 • view
The problem is the people on the left who are angry purists and falsely equate people like Kamala or Hillary with people like Trump. It's batshit nonsense. Purity/virtue testing is nothing but a ticket to the boxcars at this point.
aug 28, 2025, 7:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Apparently we can't all agree to oppose fascism, libs don't want to oppose it when it wears a blue shirt, they want us to vote for it
aug 28, 2025, 9:35 pm • 24 1 • view
Why does it feel like they’re all right wing trolls, working to sow dissent, when the primaries are a long way off?
aug 28, 2025, 10:41 pm • 1 0 • view
Or, and hear me out in this one, we live in CA, voted for Harris, and have experienced Newsom as mayor and governor and still don’t trust him.
aug 28, 2025, 2:19 pm • 24 0 • view
hi. i'm a "never gavin" person. i called and wrote letters for a district that flipped blue. my kid did too. so, i dunno what the fuck youre trying to get at here with this mean girl bullshit
aug 28, 2025, 9:33 pm • 12 0 • view
I voted for Kamala and I hope against hope that in the next 3 years democrats come up with someone better than Newsom.
aug 28, 2025, 8:24 pm • 14 0 • view
I’m with you there.
aug 28, 2025, 8:43 pm • 1 0 • view
10000000%
aug 28, 2025, 12:52 am • 1 0 • view
The establishment dems can complain about “never Gavin” alongside an endorsement of Zohran for mayor. Purity tests come from all sides of the party.
aug 28, 2025, 7:47 pm • 10 0 • view
This. Right here. It doesn’t help that Kamala didn’t get the undecided vote like she thought she’d make up the loss of Palestinian (or just anti-genocide,) voters. I genuinely don’t believe true “undecided” exist- I’m an independent, but all that means is I’m not a member of the dem party.
aug 28, 2025, 8:14 pm • 9 0 • view
It seems that democrats have still yet to learn, they’re not entitled to our votes and have to earn them. And not being less awful is not how you do that. Centrist dems are conservatives holding the line against regressives. But we’re asking for progressives and people pushing the line back
aug 28, 2025, 8:14 pm • 11 0 • view
Said another way, as a whole, democrats share a lot of the blame for how we got here. Not because they’re the same as GOP, but because they would rather the GOP than actual progress. As fun as the trolling is, a Newsom presidency will only delay the inevitable, same as Biden’s.
aug 28, 2025, 8:14 pm • 9 0 • view
Bingo! Those are the ones who didn't vote at all because no one was pure enough for them. I really wish they'd just stfu.
aug 27, 2025, 11:05 pm • 18 0 • view
We are never going to have a candidate that is perfect for anyone.
aug 27, 2025, 11:20 pm • 15 0 • view
Nobody was asking for perfect. Just a candidate with basic human decency. One that isn’t willing to sacrifice SOME people for the comfort of the majority. Kamala loved to support slavery,police brutality and genocide.Newsom terrorizes the poor and the trans.Zohran isn’t perfect, but hes got my vote.
aug 28, 2025, 8:06 pm • 15 0 • view
what right that affects you *personally* are you willing to sacrifice to get a democrat elected?
aug 28, 2025, 9:11 pm • 26 1 • view
Of course not. That's why these purists piss me off so much.
aug 27, 2025, 11:21 pm • 13 0 • view
You beat me to it, Kathryne. It's unbelievable, isn't it.
aug 28, 2025, 2:41 pm • 2 0 • view
So unbelievable. I sometimes wonder if we even deserve a democracy. It requires cooperation and compromise. We seem to have neither.
aug 28, 2025, 3:47 pm • 7 0 • view
Ok, how about we nominate AOC, then! If we can’t have a nominee that pleases everyone (I agree, it’s impossible), why not have one with some real vision for this country at least!
aug 28, 2025, 8:04 pm • 10 0 • view
Be less loud about being at the BOTTOM of Kohlberg's stages of moral development bsky.app/profile/iant...
aug 28, 2025, 9:49 pm • 4 0 • view
If we wanted perfection, we'd be demanding a complete communist revolution. I'd back PRITZKER, and he's a fucking billionaire, over Newsom, because Pritzker hasn't hung out with MAGA pundits actively agreeing with Project 2025 talking points.
aug 28, 2025, 10:33 pm • 9 0 • view
Or maybe, just maybe, we take our support of our trans allies dead seriously so more of them don’t wind up, you know, DEAD. I voted FOR Kamala & am solidly in the “never Newsom” camp for president now.
aug 27, 2025, 11:08 pm • 53 0 • view
If he is the 2028 dem nominee and trump is running for 3rd term in direct violation of the constitution you still wont vote for him?
aug 28, 2025, 6:35 pm • 2 0 • view
Sorry -I clarified that in another reply. I hope the Dems can & WILL come up with a better candidate & I’m not going to do a single thing to puff him up. IF he won the D primary, I would hold my nose & vote for him. Not voting, throwing away my vote (3rd party), voting R flatly are NOT options 4 me
aug 28, 2025, 7:05 pm • 13 0 • view
So your support for trans allies ends and it becomes "vote blue no matter who"?
aug 28, 2025, 8:56 pm • 12 0 • view
Has my support for our trans communities ended with the current political climate, especially in blood red Idaho? Fuck NO. You’re being dishonest in your fantasy scenario that either the “modern” GOP or an actual 3rd party candidate would have more favorable policies on the issueS I value 😒
aug 28, 2025, 9:19 pm • 8 0 • view
In this "fantasy" scenario you admit you'll vote for a transphobe who likes to agree with nazis about trans people.
aug 28, 2025, 9:37 pm • 10 0 • view
Anyone who chooses not to vote is, in reality, actively backing Trump and his Nazis. That's all there is to it.
aug 28, 2025, 6:16 pm • 6 0 • view
Anyone who shows up on MAGA podcasts, agreeing with MAGA pundits about Project 2025 issues, is doing more to back Trump and his Nazis.
aug 28, 2025, 10:28 pm • 16 1 • view
I know right? I thought that was obvious.
aug 28, 2025, 10:37 pm • 10 0 • view
I thought we were supposed to be opposed to MAGA and P2025, so it's weird to me that we're tolerating people in our party who align with MAGA and agree with P2025.
aug 28, 2025, 10:38 pm • 9 0 • view
I mean, I'm not, fuck Newsome entirely. I will not vote against my own existence. But I'm floored that just because some asshole has a tiny amount of social media banter we're supposed to think that means he's a good politician? We're all really screwed if that's all people are voting for.
aug 28, 2025, 10:46 pm • 6 0 • view
That's what I mean, too. It's baffling to me that there are so many people who still support him. It makes it clear who just hates Trump, vs. who opposes MAGA and their platform.
aug 28, 2025, 10:49 pm • 6 0 • view
Curious, do you think this is why Harris lost?
aug 28, 2025, 8:47 pm • 6 0 • view
I can’t say for sure why she lost. I can speculate. Nothing more.
aug 28, 2025, 8:51 pm • 0 0 • view
I guess luckily for you, there's been a lot of post election research on it. I've put together a thread on what's been found post election by organizations such as Pew and Change Research. Worth reading through IMHO: bsky.app/profile/kern...
aug 28, 2025, 8:57 pm • 8 0 • view
I'm pretty sure the suburban and rural white voters who preferred the pedophile rapist over the Democratic Party nominee are OK with Gavin Newsom.
aug 28, 2025, 11:01 pm • 4 0 • view
Look. I voted for Kamala and would do it again. And while I love what Newsome is doing right now, I am a never Gavin guy. Enough red flags previously to cause me to take that position.
aug 28, 2025, 8:06 pm • 6 0 • view
I agree.
aug 28, 2025, 8:46 pm • 1 0 • view
Because Kamala didn’t come for my Queer community and he did. Great comms team work he’s got going for him but that’s about it.
aug 28, 2025, 9:37 pm • 7 0 • view
I agree with this statement 100%.
aug 28, 2025, 9:45 pm • 1 0 • view
SO ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT HE WOULD LOSE IF THE DNC RAN HIM??
aug 28, 2025, 8:44 pm • 12 0 • view
Hey if my vote is so important why isn't treating me as a human being with bodily autonomy also important? It's called setting a minimum standard so we can get some actual candidates who aren't eager to throw people to the wolves. All triangulating rightward does is give in to the GOP anyway.
aug 28, 2025, 9:50 pm • 44 1 • view
Don't know. The actual data doesn't support it. bsky.app/profile/lady...
aug 28, 2025, 10:16 pm • 11 1 • view
Single issue voting & abstaining from voting will squash the chance of putting sanity - even *flawed* sanity - back in the White House.
aug 28, 2025, 3:01 am • 13 0 • view
"Don't agree with parts of Project 2025" seems like a pretty fucking good single issue, when it comes to determining eligibility of Democratic candidacy.
aug 28, 2025, 10:31 pm • 7 1 • view
I wish I had the luxury of single issue voting but being the demographic that I am, I have never in my life had that privilege.
aug 28, 2025, 3:21 am • 9 0 • view
The single issue is if I’m human or not you stupid hog
aug 28, 2025, 9:03 pm • 1 0 • view
Gotta tell you that we as outside observers think you guys are cute. That is cute in so far as clinging to the idea that a regime, which is abrogating constitutional,criminal, and civil law on a daily basis, will actually even allow fair and legal elections to occur in '26 or '28.
aug 28, 2025, 8:08 pm • 5 0 • view
There’s always that concern.
aug 28, 2025, 8:46 pm • 1 0 • view
Care to name that issue?
aug 28, 2025, 10:05 pm • 4 0 • view
Because to brainwashed centrist liberals who are okay sacrificing vulnerable populations to keep their privilege and comfort, the thought of a candidate winning your vote by not being shitty and actually having good ideas and a functioning moral compass is too hard to comprehend.
aug 28, 2025, 4:55 pm • 25 1 • view
Because they clearly see elections as “taxis”, not “buses” or “trains”. They require perfection to even lift a finger. They do not understand intersectionality, or that there are many marginalized communities, not just their pet ones. They don’t actually care about the result, only the process.
aug 28, 2025, 4:46 pm • 3 0 • view
The problem is that I do see the election as a train, and I see Newsom's showing up on MAGA podcasts to agree with their Project 2025 talking points about my community as a boxcar to a concentration camp. Does that help?
aug 28, 2025, 10:30 pm • 10 0 • view
Do you honestly believe Newsom could be worse for trans people than the GOP? I am opposed to him getting the nom, but there are 50 primaries and I get one vote. I’ll support a progressive candidate. I always do; and they always lose to a fucking centrist. The entire GOP is evil. They MUST lose.
aug 28, 2025, 10:49 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes. I think that having the Democrats adopting Project 2025 rhetoric and goals would end up worse for my community, because that would mean the end of any reasonable amount of legislative resistance to MAGA attempts to eradicate us. Losing our allies is a death sentence. That's what makes
aug 28, 2025, 10:55 pm • 5 0 • view
genocide possible. If Newsom wins over a progressive, the GOP will win, because people who want GOP policies already vote GOP, and people who oppose GOP policies aren't going to vote for a guy who is running on GOP policies. It's literally because the GOP is evil that I don't understand why this
aug 28, 2025, 10:55 pm • 5 0 • view
is so hard. Newsom is actively hanging out on GOP pundit media, agreeing with GOP pundits about GOP policy.
aug 28, 2025, 10:55 pm • 5 0 • view
He was doing that for months, but I think he sees the writing on the wall, and has stopped it - motivated by opportunism, not justice, of course!
aug 28, 2025, 11:26 pm • 1 0 • view
Ok. Has he publicly renounced the positions he held on those shows, and done anything to demonstrate that he's changed his mind BACK to what it was before?
aug 28, 2025, 11:28 pm • 6 0 • view
Oh yeah, I believe you’re totally right about that. The Establishment Dems’ centrism seems more mercenary than ideological. They’ve forgotten that the purpose of elections is voting, not fundraising. When we offer a candidate who appeals to lower income voters, we win. To Wall St.? We lose.
aug 28, 2025, 11:23 pm • 2 0 • view
And this is why we're campaigning against Newsom NOW. To make it clear years out that he's not an acceptable candidate. Not that it matters, because everyone seems to be responding as though we're already in the general for 2028.
aug 28, 2025, 11:25 pm • 4 0 • view
I don’t think he’s had his coronation just yet. His new-found spine is improving his image, but much of that is the novelty of his team’s strategy. We want to see the asshole punch the bully, but that doesn’t mean we LIKE the asshole now.
aug 28, 2025, 11:32 pm • 2 0 • view
I hope so.
aug 28, 2025, 11:33 pm • 2 0 • view
Notice the reluctance to engage with Gavin Newsom's targets.
aug 28, 2025, 10:51 pm • 5 0 • view
They live entirely in their own heads, convinced that they KNOW every politician’s motives, and they don’t even bother to weigh the impact of a GOP win to their pet cause. There is NO real-world scenario in which Trump’s victory could’ve helped the Gazan people, or homeless people, or trans people.
aug 28, 2025, 4:52 pm • 4 0 • view
Sucks your cult prefers to lose rather than give up their atrocities Maybe that's a huge fucking problem you should focus on instead of whining about people who actually have souls
aug 28, 2025, 9:43 pm • 7 0 • view
When my “pet cause” is my life or the lives of people I care about, then yeah, I’ve weighed the impact and decided voting for Gavin is not worth my time
aug 28, 2025, 6:31 pm • 16 0 • view
Thanks. I’ll help try to find a better candidate than Gavin - we have until mid-2028. But in November 2028, there will be two choices on the ballot, and one WILL win. They will not be the same, and I would rather try to mitigate harm than inflate my ego by pretending there’s some third option.
aug 28, 2025, 10:22 pm • 2 1 • view
*Whipsers* why does it seem like the "Trans people don't matter" people want Newsom to be the candidate 3 years before and don't give a fuck about his downsides
aug 28, 2025, 9:00 pm • 18 0 • view
Trans people absolutely matter. My point is that we’re three years out, and we don’t know who our candidates are going to be let alone who will not.
aug 28, 2025, 9:01 pm • 0 0 • view
It is overwhelming us and our allies who are complaining about Newsom, we voted overwhelmingly for Harris at 86%. That's higher than any group other than black women, the idea we are the ones who "didn't get the assignment" about Harris is truly offrnsive
aug 28, 2025, 9:17 pm • 15 0 • view
You know what group did move significantly toward Trump? www.axios.com/2025/06/26/t...
aug 28, 2025, 9:53 pm • 8 0 • view
Yes. Shameful and I’ve had many conversations with family members who voted for him. It’s cutting your own nose off and then lighting it on fire.
aug 28, 2025, 9:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes that's the entire point of the never Newsom people. We're letting you know extremely early that he's not someone we want to be the candidate
aug 28, 2025, 9:43 pm • 10 0 • view
I'm in the "I don't care if its a moldy mushroom if its on the Dem ticket for pres I'm voting for them" lane. Seriously, I don't care who or what they are anything is better than 4 more years of watching our country fall over the edge of a cliff permanently. We are to close to losing EVERYTHING.
aug 28, 2025, 4:53 am • 12 0 • view
That's actually where I'm at, too, which I probably failed to make at all clear in my original comment 🤷 If he should run & win in a presidential primary, my "newer Newsom" position now would have to shift to holding my nose & voting for him. I'm hopeful it won't come to that!
aug 28, 2025, 4:53 pm • 9 0 • view
Agreed. That was kind of my point with my post but people are very touchy about this. I get it. There’s a lot of horrible shit going on. We’re living through the destruction of everything we knew our country (politically) to be. It’s surreal and frightening.
aug 28, 2025, 5:02 pm • 6 0 • view
I flat-out don’t Get the emphasis on Newsom as the nominee. It’s still so early & the emphasis on Newsom seems to me to be part of the problem. As a party, we can definitely do much better, so I’m not going to puff him up. At all.
aug 28, 2025, 6:57 pm • 14 0 • view
Is he really running? He seems to be just trolling.
aug 28, 2025, 7:08 pm • 2 0 • view
For that matter, I don't care. I'm voting blue no matter who
aug 28, 2025, 7:09 pm • 2 0 • view
I wonder that too.
aug 28, 2025, 7:09 pm • 0 0 • view
He’s the squeakiest wheel right now but tides change quickly. I can’t even fathom who the nominee would be at this point but I’m voting for however has a chance at beating the leadership we have now. I’ll say it again, never in my life have I had the privilege of being a single issue voter.
aug 28, 2025, 7:03 pm • 4 0 • view
During President Obama's first campaign most dems didnt even know well. I want Newsome as an attack dog and see what other candidates gain more recognition and who will be the candidate.
aug 28, 2025, 11:05 pm • 5 0 • view
So are you getting paid for this, or are you doing it for free?
aug 28, 2025, 9:36 pm • 7 0 • view
LOL! Come on. That’s a little crazy and paranoid, don’t you think?
aug 28, 2025, 9:46 pm • 0 0 • view
Okay Ivan, it's way past midnight in Moscow, head for bed.
aug 28, 2025, 11:09 pm • 2 0 • view
She's not important enough for the payroll. She's disgusted by queers for free.
aug 28, 2025, 11:10 pm • 3 0 • view
It’s too bad the presidential election is only 3 short months away. There is simply no time for another candidate to gain traction and asking Newsome to support human rights is unrealistic and impossible.
aug 28, 2025, 4:48 pm • 14 0 • view
3 months??? Huh?? 3 years and 3 months
aug 28, 2025, 8:36 pm • 1 0 • view
Ahhhh okay. So I guess there’s plenty of time for those things.
aug 28, 2025, 8:37 pm • 12 0 • view
Thank goodness! But if we don't get some relief, it's gonna seem like an eon.
aug 28, 2025, 8:44 pm • 1 0 • view
Perfect circle on a Venn diagram. And still haven't fucking learned
aug 28, 2025, 9:21 pm • 1 0 • view
so you’re a transphobe who doesn’t give a shit about homeless people, got it!
aug 28, 2025, 4:46 pm • 24 0 • view
Actually, no.
aug 28, 2025, 4:48 pm • 5 0 • view
i guess i’m a little confused then. newsom destroyed homeless people’s belongings, with his bare hands, while smiling. he’s been on multiple right-wing podcasts agreeing with anti-trans viewpoints. but you still believe he’s a good candidate. we still have time to find someone with better views.
aug 28, 2025, 5:39 pm • 25 1 • view
I'd say it's a bit early to have this argument; but some people need to understand the importance of doing the dirty work of voting, and not letting perfect be the enemy of survival.
aug 28, 2025, 9:33 pm • 1 0 • view
We're working towards our own survival. We don't have any reason to believe a man who would force entire generations of trans kids through the entirety of natal puberty is good for that.
aug 28, 2025, 10:18 pm • 9 0 • view
I acknowledge this as a compelling counter-argument.
aug 28, 2025, 11:12 pm • 1 0 • view
Agree.
aug 28, 2025, 9:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Are you trolling or do you not understand anything about the political candidates you vote for (or don't)? Gavin Newsom is against human rights & a danger to vulnerable people, as he demonstrated by harming the homeless population and throwing trans people under the bus. Here's an assignment- gaf
aug 28, 2025, 2:28 pm • 29 0 • view
Well, you are a pleasant human. Have a great day! 😘
aug 28, 2025, 3:03 pm • 8 0 • view
Thanks! Have the day you deserve
aug 28, 2025, 3:07 pm • 18 0 • view
You too, sweetie.
aug 28, 2025, 3:09 pm • 6 0 • view
What did you expect? You posted this comment to start crap.
aug 28, 2025, 8:33 pm • 10 0 • view
You’re awfully defensive and assume a lot. Enjoy your day, Sunny.
aug 28, 2025, 8:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Or it's a GOP dark money operation. Same diff.
aug 27, 2025, 11:22 pm • 3 0 • view
same people
aug 27, 2025, 11:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Newsom is willing to throw trans people under the bus. I'm not willing to be a speed bump for the dems. They told the pro-Palestine people to sit down and shut up last year but still demanded our unconditional compliance and vote for the party. Many trans people are also pro-Palestine.
aug 28, 2025, 5:21 pm • 36 4 • view
I am sure genocide and tear gassing of protestors is something you find it unfathomable to care about but I consider the party that made people vote for such things to keep Trump out the problem. But then I'm English so I would clearly know nothing about dangerous bigoted centrists.
aug 28, 2025, 9:02 pm • 11 0 • view
Starmer country?
aug 28, 2025, 11:08 pm • 2 0 • view
Yes, that's my point. You don't let centrists take over your mainstream left party. They become like Labour have become under Starmer. Destroy the notion that the Gavins of the Democratic party can ever be tolerated or you'll end up with a Starmer.
aug 28, 2025, 11:14 pm • 3 0 • view
I'll admit to being a third-party observer regarding British politics, but looking from the outside-in, it seems to me like it's a case of Labour turning into Democrats rather than vice versa. Starmer types are kinda the blue standard in America.
aug 28, 2025, 11:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Well no. Bernie Sanders and AOC would be considered far right in Britain because things that are normal in America lack a lack of singlepayer healthcare are considered dystopian evil in Britain but by our standards Starmer is uniquely bad.
aug 28, 2025, 11:25 pm • 1 0 • view
Unless your democrats boast about going further than the mainstream right wing party like Starmers has done. I mean yes Kamala Harris did run attack adds against Trump on the grounds that he was too nice to trans people but I thought that was an anomaly.
aug 28, 2025, 11:25 pm • 0 0 • view
Trans people, immigrants, Palestine, and Iran. Off the top of my head. They're not anomalies, it's just another bout of incompetent triangulation. And I do argue that the severity of incompetence is one of the bigger differences between Democrats and Labour.
aug 28, 2025, 11:31 pm • 2 0 • view
Didn't we just try to elect a Californian?
aug 28, 2025, 10:31 pm • 4 0 • view
Oi.
aug 28, 2025, 10:34 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm on team Tim Waltz. He's a fighter that the Harris campaign mistakenly bottled up.
aug 28, 2025, 10:40 pm • 2 0 • view
We don't claim her.
aug 28, 2025, 11:13 pm • 3 0 • view
The way things are, I'd crawl over broken glass to vote against him in the primary, but for him in the general if, god forbid, he wins. Whatever the weaknesses of the 2028 D nominee, those groups/categories/issues would be better off with the worst D president in 2029 than if this continues.
aug 28, 2025, 4:48 pm • 11 0 • view
If the things you require me to sacrifice "for the greater good" are my healthcare, my safety, my bodily autonomy and my right to exist as an equal human being in your society, then it's not the good at all.
aug 28, 2025, 8:57 pm • 94 25 • view
You are completely missing the point. It's not about the "perfect candidate". It's about the bare stinking minimum. It's about the dems not sacrificing marginalized groups to appeal and appease literal nazis and white supremacists jfor votes that they'll never get.
aug 28, 2025, 11:21 pm • 13 2 • view
The bad actors here are those who make GN the D candidate, not the people who vote against a bad candidate. The idea that we should not throw ANY groups of people under the bus is hardly "purism"; it's a minimum standard of decency. Just don't run a transphobe for Pres & it won't be an issue.
aug 28, 2025, 9:35 pm • 26 0 • view
You mean that the people for whom throwing Palestinian children under the bus was a deal breaker also have a hard line when it comes to doing that to trans kids?
aug 28, 2025, 12:30 pm • 30 0 • view
How are palestinians and trans kids doing right now?
aug 28, 2025, 6:36 pm • 5 0 • view
Because y'all didn't listen? Horribly.
aug 28, 2025, 7:13 pm • 13 0 • view
Trump is about to declare gender ideology as terroristic activity but tell me again how you care so much about marginilized people that you couldnt be bothered to vote to protect them
aug 28, 2025, 7:15 pm • 0 0 • view
The GOP has been doing that under Biden and Harris anyway. I remember the overturn of Roe V Wade and the majority decision basically saying "gay and trans rights are next" while they were still in power.
aug 28, 2025, 7:18 pm • 2 0 • view
What did you expect her to do about a supreme court decision?so you would vote for kamala so dems might have the opportunity to possibly change the balance of the supreme court in a way that is better for these minorities right? RIGHT?
aug 28, 2025, 7:23 pm • 0 0 • view
If she actually cared, she could have done a lot, especially as the senator pro tempe, to legislate legal protections and dismantle the damage the GOP has been doing. You forgot that she and Biden were literally the leaders of the Dem party.
aug 28, 2025, 7:26 pm • 3 0 • view
Because who didnt listen? I was actually paying attention and voted for the person who wouldnt make things way worse for marginalized people
aug 28, 2025, 7:14 pm • 4 0 • view
Harris was perfectly fine with throwing marginalized people under the bus, one group at a time, to appease Republicans. The people who witheld their vote did the only thing that would make their voice heard, when years of saying their one line in the sand shall not be crossed.
aug 28, 2025, 7:16 pm • 11 1 • view
Woulf she have done this or nah? www.pbs.org/newshour/pol...
aug 28, 2025, 7:17 pm • 3 0 • view
She literally did nothing when the foundations were laid under her and Biden's watch.
aug 28, 2025, 7:19 pm • 7 0 • view
Would she have targeted marginilized groups like this with the full force of the government or not?
aug 28, 2025, 7:21 pm • 3 0 • view
She and Biden literally stood by while congress and the court went out of their way to set up what we're seeing now. They don't care, and never will.
aug 28, 2025, 7:24 pm • 9 0 • view
To the people here carping at me: You could spend the next three years fighting to get a candidate who might actually inspire some turnout, but I get the feeling you'll just spend it getting a head start on blaming progressives for your next loss.
aug 28, 2025, 9:46 pm • 5 0 • view
aug 28, 2025, 8:07 pm • 1 0 • view
Nope
aug 28, 2025, 8:42 pm • 12 0 • view
If he was shitting on women, would you say they should vote for him? Hispanics? African Americans? Americans with disabilities? LGB? We know you’ll abandon Trans people. Who else is on your list of minorities it’s acceptable for a politican to throw under the bus without losing your support?
aug 28, 2025, 4:45 pm • 18 0 • view
If the opponent is categorically worse on every single issue? then ya, obviously. Thats how voting works
aug 28, 2025, 6:38 pm • 2 0 • view
Or, just hear me out, you could”d pick someone better first. Newsome isn’t the candidate. Why not pick someone who isn’t a bigotted piece of shit? You’ve got a couple of years. It’s a it early to be nailing your colours to the mast, no?
aug 28, 2025, 7:14 pm • 13 0 • view
I dont pick the nominees. There is a voting process. If after that voting process, you have two shitty candidates to choose from, then choose the less shitty one. Its easy
aug 28, 2025, 7:19 pm • 3 0 • view
That also applies in the primaries. Until he’s a Preidential candidate, he’s just another transphobic arsehole running for office. Why not pick someone who isn’t going to throw civil rights away? Is that really such a controversial thought?
aug 28, 2025, 7:28 pm • 8 0 • view
Youre acting like im saying newsome should be the nominee. Im not. I would vote for him if he was. Because trump is obviously worse.
aug 28, 2025, 7:29 pm • 2 0 • view
Take a look at the thread. That is exactly the position the comment you replied to was about. If that isn’t your position, why are you even arguing with me? Have a go at the Newsom-stans who want every critic to shut up.
aug 28, 2025, 7:32 pm • 7 0 • view
Nowhere does anyone imply newsome should be the nominee. OP says "never newsome" folks are the same people who stupidly did not vote kamala in 24
aug 28, 2025, 7:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Really? So, comparing people saying htey won’t vote for him to people who didn’t vote for Harris is what, exactly? What is the similarity? I mean, as no one’s suggesting he should be the nominee and all.
aug 28, 2025, 7:45 pm • 8 0 • view
I dont know what you arent understanding. If he is the nominee, and trump is his opponent, you should vote for gavin. If you are "never gavin" that means you would not vote for him even against a trump 3rd term. Same as people not voting for harris against trump in a second term
aug 28, 2025, 8:36 pm • 1 0 • view
If they don’t like our choices they should step up and suggest someone instead of just complaining 🤬
aug 28, 2025, 7:38 pm • 2 0 • view
So you don't believe in Democracy, and you think Presidential candidates have no obligation to actually win over voters, burning over 1.5 billion dollars in the process. You've already become everything Donald Trump wants you to be, "Good German."
aug 28, 2025, 8:44 pm • 13 0 • view
Gavin Newsom is Temu Donald Trump. Hard pass.
aug 28, 2025, 10:31 pm • 10 0 • view
I don't want Gavin Newsom to be our next president. His trans comments are what solidified it for me. However, if he's the candidate on the blue side, I can hold my nose and vote for him. There will never be a perfect candidate who ticks all the boxes for me.
aug 28, 2025, 8:18 pm • 8 0 • view
Well, other people are telling you they will not
aug 28, 2025, 8:32 pm • 20 0 • view
I’m answering for me, not them.
aug 28, 2025, 8:40 pm • 4 0 • view
That’s all you can do but people are still going to rage and twist themselves into knots.
aug 28, 2025, 8:52 pm • 1 0 • view
No, they’re just not going to vote for Newsom
aug 28, 2025, 8:53 pm • 18 0 • view
Good for you. If you want to win in 2028 you need higher standards
aug 28, 2025, 8:54 pm • 7 0 • view
We won’t win without consensus no matter who the candidates are. We are very divided right now. I’m worried about how we will come together.
aug 28, 2025, 8:56 pm • 1 0 • view
This is why we have primaries.
aug 28, 2025, 9:48 pm • 1 0 • view
maybe gavin should understand the assignment and not platform fascists and sacrifice trans people
aug 28, 2025, 11:28 pm • 6 0 • view
Wouldn't surprise me.
aug 28, 2025, 8:56 pm • 0 0 • view
*Raises eyebrows and grits teeth* I voted for Kamala and I like that Newsom is redistricting to blunt GOP attempts to steal the midterms, but his previous actions as governor make him very unattractive to me as a 2028 presidential contender. We have a lot of other, better options
aug 28, 2025, 8:00 pm • 23 1 • view
I mostly agree with you. Where I’m lost is who would be those other candidates and are they really viable with the division we’re seeing right now.
aug 28, 2025, 8:49 pm • 2 0 • view
Pritzker. Walz. Beshear. Mills. Most of the division we're seeing is coming from consultant rhetoric that actively encourages Democrats to sacrifice marginalized groups to MAGA policies in order to somehow appeal to MAGA voters. The trick to overcoming that is to oppose it.
aug 28, 2025, 10:36 pm • 20 1 • view
Can’t wait for Gruesome Gavin to win the presidency and rescind none of Trumps policies and just become a (D)ictator
aug 28, 2025, 6:30 pm • 11 0 • view
*whispers* why does it feel like yall are looking for another marginalized demographic to blame for your next easily-preventable electoral failure
aug 28, 2025, 10:46 pm • 14 2 • view