There really isn’t much of a left left.

What lesson did the left not learn that it should have?

That truth is very important.

What truth did the left deny that the centrists believe?

What left? Democrats and their voters are right wing

The left is too intellectual & too so inclusive at times to win elections. we’ve The right has always been better organized, more sinister & self serving. We need tanks and troops to line up, arrest & try this admin. for treason & start over! The way to deal w/weak bullies is to take them down!

Candidates so good, they can lose to a convicted felon.

Such comments will get you blocked on this platform.

Schrodingers left So powerful can sway elections Not powerful enough to be catered to. Sounds like democrats and liberals have a problem. Maybe don't campaign with Liz Cheney and support a genocide BTW we all voted for Harris, so maybe try working with people instead of this crybaby rhetoric

Huh. What I learned is the the "left" is just as misogynist & invested in white male supremacist patriarchy as the GOP/fascists.

You love losing

It's not the left. It's the corporate Democrats that are beholden to their oligarchical donors and masters.

Perhaps I misunderstood his comment. 🤔

Corporate Democrats who are beholden to their oligarchical donors and masters aren’t the people in my replies tearing excellent candidates apart because they aren’t their dream candidate.

The DNC is basically a Fortune 500 subsidiary at this point—run by corporate Democrats who think “grassroots” is a type of lawn care. When they finally stop treating Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Big Business, etc., like their sugar daddies, then you can start pointing fingers elsewhere.

you didn’t address what I said. just glossed over it lol.

The entire infrastructure is corrupted by big money, and everything within it is tainted. That’s precisely why we went from Roosevelt to SHITLER, the fascist clown. There’s no point in dissecting the parts when the whole system is rotten.

I’m not interested in you preaching at me. If you’re gonna ignore what I’m going to say back to you, I’m going to mute you because there’s no conversation.

Name these "excellent candidates"...

Let me check: do your excellent candidates throw a beleaguered minority group that the right is using as a wedge issue under the bus and refuse to condemn the bipartisan aiding and abetting of genocide?

Are you talking about people not wanting to vote for Kamala Harris due to her support for a genocide? I ask because some of your phrasing seem odd in this context ("excellent candidate", "[just] because they aren't their dream candidate")

Get better candidates? No. It’s the leftists who are wrong. Leftists aren’t the ones putting up a civilizational ending losing streak

If they are excellent candidates they wouldn't lose

This.

They're on a roll!

😞😞😞

What, exactly, do you wish the left had learned?

Add 2000 to that list.

Who are you referring to when you say "the left"?

The white identified online left. The left that’s actually in the streets. Active in the workplace doesn’t just sit around in Election Day and let the neo confederate party win.

I think you mean liberals big dawg. The left--the far left--always knows the score

what did you learn from those

You mean like we didn’t learn we live among a bunch of racist misogynists who are also fucking morons. That kind of learning? I’m pretty sure we’ve got that figured out.

US has a left?

Preach it!!!

You can go back to the Goldwater era and onward; With things like the predecessors to the heritage foundations, such as the John Birch society.

Not true..we begin gerrymandering immediately

Gotta go a lot farther back than that.😠

They’re now too late.

Not the left, just the Democrats.

and the far left

Who's on the far left that has power exactly?

We cannot fix stupid.

“The only good martyrs are dead martyrs.”

But there are no good people on the left.

There was one phenomenal candidate on the left and the Dems fought harder to stop him than they ever fought to stop the orange fascist child raping menace!

Me: universal HC? Dems: no Me: Green New Deal? Dems: no Me: living wage? Dems: no Me: ban corporate money? Dems: no Me: stop fracking? Dems: no Me: police reform? Dems: no Me: expand the SC? Dems: no Me: implement ranked choice voting & you have my vote Dems: no Dems: 🍊 man bad! Vote for us! Me: no

2016: ran to the right and lost 2020: ran to the pretend-left and won 2024: ran to the right and lost, again who isn't learning things here

We're still continuing to play by the rules, while the Republicans HAVE no rules.

2028? No election will be held

Unfortunately, they STILL don't get it. bsky.app/profile/amyk...

Slotkin is worse. Check out her Breaking Points interview on YT.

Just an absolute refusal to take a stand on anything besides “I like capitalism.” Neo levels of dodging.

Quibbling over the word “genocide” and frowning…

Yeah, when you devolve into Jordan Peterson's tactic of defining terms to avoid taking a stand you've lost the debate.

If she's the future of the democrat party, I'm going elsewhere.

Ok, fair, but that’s not the name of the party, though.

2000 Bush v. Gore?!

Actually, they learned a lot in ‘16 and ‘20…too many Americans are gullible and stupid, who look up to tough-talking bullies.

Every election we learn that there is no limit to the level of stupidity the right will stoop too and its always lower than expected.

Can you give an example of that? Something equal to the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop.

That's what Google is for. Knock yourself out!

Sick burn

Or anyone else for that matter

Life long democrat here who also believes that the Blue party needs to take a good long look at how they misstepped/contributed to the rise of MAGA. Or they're going to lose a lot of people who are just like me.

Why don’t you tell us what we missed and what can be done to improve. So easy to armchair quarterback. If you have something better put it out there. Quit whining or go join MAGA.

If he ever left. D'you notice that most Blue folks don't lump 'the left' as though it's a single entity? "The Left" covers everything from people who are mildly left of center to outright Communists.

What did browbeating get you in 2024?

Please point out my browbeating from 2024.

You’re browbeating right now!

Its 2025.

Does that include The Democrats?

No. The US has two right-of-centre parties: Neoliberal patriarchy & fascist patriarchy. Even the "Green" Party is fully invested in white male supremacist patriarchy. The US has NO progressive/"left" party. The closest thing is ecofeminists & Black women (who do all the fucking work anyway).

lol barely

It was an honest question. It's really hard to tell anymore!

Technically it does. But I believe it’s undeniable there are lifer Dems in the party who get more out of a republican government than a democratic one.

I wonder what the leadership and donors would say?

The same thing they say every single cycle. “It’s time to fight for democracy by donating your money”. Do you think the DNC, which is a private corporation, makes more money with Dem leaders or republicans? My bet is republicans.

But would they say they are a part of the left?

They believe the people think they are left. We don’t.

I agree with you the centrist/right leaning Democrats don't really do it for me either

It’s not the left that is not learning. Thanks for proving that point. The establishment and centrist Democrats, those owned by the Oligarchs, are the ones the entire country despises. THEY are the problem.

Reminds me of Will McAvoy’s “America is not the greatest nation in the world” speech! “Why do liberals lose so goddamn much?”

They sure haven’t. It’s just so depressing as we spiral down into authoritarianism.

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