That's the words of a roid freak

Women don’t like men who lecture them how much sugar and calories in boba turns out, which is before you even consider most find the roids build grotesque and all the side effects that come from it

It doesn't matter how nice the package is when the inside is full of shit.

Her boyfriend has a bigger dick than you do

Small pp energy from that guy

He suffers from Charlie Kirk face

His face isn’t Charlie Kirk bad but does seem weirdly small relative to the rest of his body in a way that is unsettling. I can’t imagine any psychologically healthy woman wanting to mate with a man who is clearly blowing massive amounts of time and money (and drugs!) “perfecting” his appearance.

The amount of gear to achieve that look might be part of the problem

That’ looks unhealthy

Back in my stagehand days, I worked a handful of Bodybuilding shows/competitions, and as a relatively normal, if lanky-looking, guy in my 20s, their bodies were simultaneously fascinating and terrifying. Huge muscles, zero body fat, and also they could all barely move.

I did watch love lies bleeding- fictional but the mentality plus steroids was nightmareish

I reccomend the film btw- it has strangers with candy vibes except with noir replacing the comedy

Magazine Dreams is an interesting take on it if you are ok with watching something Jonathan Majors starred in.

One of the things that I remember from those events, beyond how fucking easy it was to tell which events took drug testing seriously and which ones didn't, was how everyone was so starving and dehydrated as to be completely miserable.

I’m assuming it varied from event to event

Which part?

Heh both actually

Guy I knew in college was a natural bodybuilder and if he was bulking he was miserable because he was basically force feeding himself chicken breast and brown rice every hour or so and when he was cutting he was miserable because he felt like he was always starving.

I was only seeing them at competitions/shows, so what I was seeing was when they were trying to dehydrate/starve themselves as much as possible so all the muscles really popped on stage, and the result was seeing a bunch of miserable people huddled backstage like a bunch of colossi made of raw meat

Jesus

colossi

Yeah, even as somebody who finds guys like this attractive, the bizarre striated/veiny pre-show look is unsettling. A guy I know who was a stripper and did fitness shows (which are not as extreme) said he made way more money when his body looked more normal.

Maybe this isn't a joke. . . .

tbf, they generally hold that condition for a few hours to a day or two.

Like I said: I was only ever seeing them at the shows, so that's all I can comment on, but I imagine that's probably correct.

They look like one day they'll flex and the skin everywhere pops like that scene in the matrix where Neo wakes up in his pod, and the cables disconnect.

Hey, I understand you did a lot of work, fella, but: did you ever consider trying to do something SHE likes?

How did he learn our straight woman secret that we will only date men who can a) bench over 135 or b) are rich

Look *I* bench over 135 (barely), what do I get

More children.

Sounds like a scam

Probably.

Hahahahahaha

Isn't there a waiver process? The requirements are "don't be an insufferable douche?"

like you cant put up 135 lol

Oh, it's "or" not "and" That explains it

This is where I remind folks that this guy was on IG calling "libtards" ugly and dumb

🤨

very good and normal looking, sir!

Shhhhh!!

I KNEW it

Yeah, she left him because every spare second went to lifting and every spare dollar went to ‘roids. She wanted some regular company that wasn’t on a needle-fuelled hair trigger that you’d trip if you forgot tonight was red-meat-for-supper in the rotation.

Yikes.

Sometimes when you make Peking duck, some people will inflate the skin to separate it from the meat before cooking. This is what that guy looks like

“Sir, this is Wendy’s. She’s not here, she’s just a logo.”

thought those shorts were a sarong

Haha, me too.

Never has a sarong felt saright

A+

…are they not? Or possibly a loincloth à la Tarzan?

okay at first i thought this was a tarzan costume, but now i think he pulled up one side of the shorts to show off his leg muscles for the photo

On closer inspection (shudder) I think you’re right

The girls are out here falling over line cooks who look like they've been awake for 60 hours straight and haven't eaten in a week.

Back in my day it was the wraithish muso with a likely heroin addiction. Never has it been the bodybuilder.

I don’t mind the jacked up look, have always preferred muscular men. But the entitlement and braindead just cancel out all.

All of social interaction is inherently performative, these people just have weird-ass sources for social interaction (terminally online people who make money telling you that you’re not good enough).

“Guess she don’t like wonky-ass abs, bro. Better spend the next 14 years evening squaring those bad boys off.”

I don't understand any of this. They both sound insane and the bodybuilding guy is repellent.

why do his obliques look held in place with tape

“The girl I’m in love with..” So you’re fixated on someone who’s clearly not interested? That’s not creepy at all.

my first thought

The entitlement is fucking wild.

Some people desperately want some kind of checklist or cut-and-dry criteria they can point to in order to say they did the Right Things and now deserve a partner. There's no instruction manual! There's no rubric!

what the fuck is the first guy saying

Because women don't find men attractive when they call themselves "Alpha" males. This guy definitely runs around barking, hitting his chest like a neanderthal, and calling himself Alpha.

There's a standup bit from the 90s, forget the comedian, that goes something like "every minute you spend at the gym, I'm in a bar talking to your girl. I might not be big but I'm there" and I've been thinking about it a lot the last few years.

This is the way.

If he liked men, he could find one at the gym, and they can do the body worship stuff together.

Heck if he wasn't as weird about women as he almost certainly is, he could find a woman who wants to do that kind of thing together.

Yeah these guys never beat my belief that there’s no such thing as an incel, bc these guys choose to be unfuckable.

I'm a woman and I like a fit guy, but not a ripped guy. Some pudge is better to cuddle with than no pudge. And having a guy that's too bulgy and veiny with too big of muscles is just gross to me.

what’s crazy is that dude was a gold medal winner in math olympiad

Doesn’t steroid use shrink the testes?

Gotten years to end up borderline body horror.

I PUT IN ALL THE TOKENS!! **ALL** THE TOKENS!! MAKE IT WORK *pound pound pound* yuck.

LMAO

Rich body builders lol. Famously every woman's greatest desire. Keep taking that HGH. They love the bulging skull look.

That dude looks horrible.

You can just tell that guy is a picky eater

Are his abs invading his pecs? What the gel is going on with his torso

It almost looks like he used Photoshop to clip his abs out of the picture then decided to paste them back in at the wrong angle.

Also wtf is that black thing on his pec? Was he just injected with Borg nanoprobes? Is that why he's yellow?

The photo has definitely been manipulated

It hasn’t, people’s muscles just look like that sometimes. Abs are particularly prone to not aligning. It’s genetic, mostly. Also, relating back to the original issue at play here: Entirely likely his girl was freaked out by his roid habit and obvious lack of boundaries given he just posted *that*

Yeah, I am pretty sure that by the standards of bodybuilding judging his abs are Not Good

Has anyone ever met a woman who thinks the Arnold Schwarzenegger look is attractive? I haven’t. I bet the guy she left him for can actually engage in a conversation with her AND does the dishes!

Apparently Arnold’s 80s and 90s movies kept including sex scenes thinking it would appeal to women and every single one of them got cut out once they got in front of an actual test audience

the "now you take off your clothes" scene with Jamie Lee Curtis is TRUE LIES was effective, no doubt in large part because Arnold was fully clothed and sitting in a dark shadow

Bodybuilders say that they all get into it to impress girls, realize that girls *are not into it*, then stay in it to impress guys

Oh, and I can’t make any sense of the word salad he replied to so I can’t tell if his reply is even on topic.

I’m glad ..I thought I was missing something-like the whole thing.

incel/manosphere-speak. one of the characteristics of a cult is "loading the language," aka a lot of "insider" terms that are likely to be impenetrable to outsiders & serve as shorthand, sometimes thought-terminating cliches

yung whosit's message cuts off but I read it as almost a sympathetic critique of the situation here: young guys like this, OP's presuming autistic (common), get caught up in the manosphere & buy into "looksmaxxing"--bodybuilding, look "hot" according to manosphere standards, as a cheat code...

basically, musclehead got buffed & ripped bc other manosphere/incel types told him it's how you get the hot babes. He bought into that bc he can't figure out how to just social skill his way--the autism, posits yung whosit; and now this isn't working either. Sad! and yet.

First I’d heard of “lookmaxxing” was in the NYT write-up on the recent horror story about ChstGPT coaching a 16-y/o user into taking his own life He’d been into that online community, which tracks with my assumption that emotionally vulnerable young men latch onto these corrosive online spaces

I am probably being too charitable to him but I think if you translate it out of incel it amounts to "[nerds/incels/'people w/ autism' is not a correct translation] under-estimate social dynamics in relationships and focus to much on the idea of making themselves physically attractive"

the reply is not really salient except insofar as it proves what I think OP's point is: the guy has made himself a thing he thinks of as "really physically attractive" and is confused why he got dumped for someone less (by his standards) so

Same. It's like a nom sequitur admission of being a giant dingus

guys really struggle to understand this which leads to posts like this

will never stop being funny. women will fucking tell you that getting it on with the dude on the right feels like being fucked by a boulder.

(jackhammers for 30sec) "wow that was crazy honey anyways I gotta go"

He should've stopped maybe 1/3 of the way through that.

Could be healthier, but he is so creepy

Obsession is never healthy - at least not mentally on the long run. And whatever “supplements” he might take, also contribute to renal or liver failure probably on the long run. I was that way between the ages of 15 and 30. But death has very “convincing arguments” to stop even the most stubborn 🧠💁🏻‍♂️

I know several women who describe the shredded version of the guy as looking “bug like” - you can see his thorax when he’s that cut and lean, ya know?

Now I can't unsee this.

His head looks too big for his thorax.

In the after picture he looks as if he spends a lot of time at the gym and never ever enjoys a single fry. What am I going to do with a guy like that? I mean, it's great to have your own hobbies, but that look is only attainable if you skip everything else except for the day job.

My partner is bi and this matches up for what she likes in men (squishy himbos). She's commented before that men who look too much like the right hand side have the vibe that they're about to hate crime her.

Bingo, violentlycar.

Seems like lots of drugs/steroids/etc., but if he's settled with going gay, I'm sure he'll get laid more often. That at least would be better than having zero sex/return on investment.

he doesn't look like he's on steroids to me. his muscles aren't even very big (they're bigger in the picture on the left!), but he's very lean which makes them pop more

His head looks very large in the second.

There actually were a lot of women into Arnold, but a crucial difference is you'd see him on talk shows and promo tours, and he'd actually be a funny, good-natured, magnanimous guy. He had personality, basically.

I was going to say I think Arnold in his prime was handsome but then I remembered by "in his prime" I mean when he was an actor who was still jacked but not "Mr. Universe jacked" and I was thinking almost entirely of his face anyway.

Not only is it unattractive, you suspect it’s a guy who will, like, insist on going to bed at sundown, working out for hours at a time, who will look at you in contempt if you order an ice cream or gain two pounds. Just not fun!

“Oh my god I can’t eat that it’ll throw off my macros”

Both of them are going to judge you for ordering the blueberry muffin

He fell for the lie that women are attracted to muscle. Men put themselves under crazy pressure because of this misunderstanding. If guys had women friends, they would be able to discuss these mysteries with someone who knows from a woman's perspective.

also, am I missing something, or is he making a not super relevant reply to a post about other people’s problems?

Dear Soyboys, *The girl I love left me*

To be clear, he never actually said anything about them being together in the first place.

He’s probably got it in his head that he’s been sooooo obvious about his love for her and that she is being deliberately obtuse. The reality is he’s made up so many stories in his head about how he “won” her with his “strength” and “great personality”

that he’s started believing them and can’t reconcile the fact that he’s a chickenshit that can barely get a word out around her. But it’s still her fault for not noticing the effort he’s put in “for her.” /s

"alright, good, time to get that picture of me looking jacked. got the bmw logo? good. cell phone? check. strip mall with plentiful food options? hell yeah. harmonica? got it bro."

Thank you so much for pointing out the harmonica, it adds like 3 new layers to the photo

Didn’t even notice that until you mentioned it. It’s one of those photos that keeps getting weirder the longer you look at it.

Haha. I didn’t catch it, either. My parents used to have an absurdist/realist-ish painting and they were still discovering intentionally weird and absurd features for a few years after they bought it. I don’t think they’d hang that picture in their kitchen, tho.

Chaos demon in the driver's seat

I missed the harmonica. It’s so much funnier now — thank you!

harmonica playing is the most cardio he does

Honestly, based on the Discourse I see around these parts relating to Men Who Get Jacked - perhaps he does a lod of breathwork

"Weirdly lopsided abs? Check!"

CMU seems to make people go insane, something about the culture or workload I think

there are much more toxic places for contest math people to end up tbh

given this users other main interest is race science and eugenics he already ended up there!

I mean that guys just roided

He’s probably pulling the 135lb figure from his butt, but if pretend it’s accurate, that seems a bit embarrassing. (Note that I have arthritic AC joints that required surgery so i wouldn’t press anything).

I only weigh 135, don't lift weights ever so probably couldn't bench my bodyweight, yet I'm married to a lovely girl and have two kids. Runner/featherweight boxer bod is superior to weightlifter bod, anyway.

What? Steroids and long hours at the gym aren't attractive after all?!

…which part?

Maybe it was the mistaken idea that women only want superficial things, the narcissism and tes 🤷‍♀️

corporate needs you to find the difference between these two pictures // they're the same picture

Guy on the left has not destroyed his dick, balls and sex drive from anabolic steroids so I'd say there's a big difference

Bro looks like someone vacu-shrunk his head. Also his muscles so weirdly distended and uneven? He looks like he's going to fold in half and spin like a top from the tension. 'roids are bad for you, kids.

A lot of people have left-side/right-side muscle asymmetries--many of us just don't match up on both sides. And past a certain point, hypertrophy does nothing but make those differences super-obvious.

Wait... are using wired earbuds a thing now?

i always use wired earbuds

The one o. The left looks suspicious to me.

In my experience women do go wild for guys who pose half-naked in strip mall parking lots.

Yeah, but, at his age, he needs to be dating WOMEN, or it'd be illegal....

both are gay men

Darn it. This isn't a performance, Sexy To Someone just slaps okay. Let men have depressing music.

It’s both bad if there’s obsessive compulsive tendencies involved and the guy with the bulging muscles took steroids. You don’t wanna be around him then (mentally unstable, prone to heart failure etc.). Left might just be obsessive with “optimizing calorie intake” and diet plan.🤔💁🏻‍♂️😓

Only difference is who you are performing for

The guy on the right doesn’t know who he’s performing for, though.

His mom

difference is that one is performing for what women seem to actually want (at least within his millieu) and one is performing for a powerfully incorrect view of what women want, both are entering into a homoerotic self presentation but only one is doing so deliberately

.... i hate to say it, but this is Gender

We’re gonna have to acknowledge the legions of (presumably) straight young men performing for male attention and affection. What used to be relegated to the world of adult films is now commonplace on Instagram reels.

as always the core dynamic on the young-right are people who are either gay or so misogynistic they are essentially becoming gay

But some of the more toxic, self-loathing gays then…if they get to the point of becoming self-aware of it even and don’t destroy themselves in the unbearable performance of projecting heteronormative “normalcy” until they can’t bear it anymore. Part of me pities them as they need help and 1/3

none is in sight. Another part wants to be there when Life breaks their hyper-inflated egos and then help them recreate themselves in a healthier version. Life has a tendency to do that through consequences, that would be considered cruel if another human were to deliberately bring those about. 2/3

But I cannot dehumanize them since I know all they want to achieve with these obsessive-compulsive “performances”, is to be “loved”. They have no idea what love really means but theirs certainly is the very foundation and fuel for their conviction that they’re “doing good/right” by themselves.😓💁🏻‍♂️ 3/3

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're getting jacked so you can "get chicks" you're doing it for the wrong reasons

shakespeare and company sending me tbh

I am once again reminded of the debating competition debate motion about whether if we had a way to magically make everyone bi, should we do it, as I'm pretty convinced guys like this would be much happier if they were into other guys too.

Maybe the guy she's dating hasn't made bodybuilding his entire personality? Dunno.

Maybe she likes the other guy better because he cares about her more than he cares about his image.

every time I see one of these I have to resist the urge to tell these guys that they optimized themselves to fuck men lmao

lol.

Minmaxxing FTW

They honestly look too muscly for gay men, this is the equivalent of the giant BBLs women used to go get.

Why on earth would you forebear to tell them that?

People get cranky when they realize they’ve turned themselves into a future gay for pay actor

"The giant looks in the mirror and sees nothing"

Dude looks like shit.

She fell for a guy that looks a her vs a mirror.

will he give a single moment's thought to the broader implications of this turn of events? nah

BODYBUILD FOR YOURSELF. DON'T DO IT FOR ATTENTION.

You can't convince me that's not a neoprene muscle suit.

"...well Dan had all the money, he also had the looks, but Shorty must have had something that just can't be found in books...." (Eddie Cochran)

I bet he has a small weird looking dick

I'm dadbodmaxxing, never thought about macros a day in my life bro

macarons, maybe

rock on

A muscly dickwad it’s still a dickwad.

What… is happening here???

Also, is his dick teeny tiny? I see no topography in those shorts, even hiked up like that.

the girlies simply do not want a shrinkwrapped man

They could just cut to the chase and ask women what they like.

Bro that's gay

Why do so many dudes have a generic PEDs grown body these days

too few career prospects did I say career prospects? I meant brain cells

Oh? Well.... the culinary institute of America has was of making you talk.

"get the cheese grater"

Fantastic. Shredded Gruyere on French Onion Soup? With a fresh baguette? We can do that..... in exchange for, you know, nuclear codes....

🤣🤣🤣🤣

All that juice and still no game

Dammmnnnnnn ouch

You know, I’m genuinely impressed by the fella being so publicly, brutally honest about themself.

"I spent 14 years trying to bag this girl who I only understand as an abstract concept rather than a fully realized human being, and all I got were these busted joints and a significantly reduced lifespan."

she can probably smell the roid rage from here

Man, like years of banging weights around-cause you think it’ll get the ladies?

I would simply avoid hoe-scaring behavior

So much going on in this screenshot.

Is there a louvre of dying twitter?

@bestofdyingtwit.bsky.social?

@bestofdyingtwit.bsky.social

ROFL, I looked up that dude's account and apparently he's deleted that tweet. I wonder how many times he got called a cuck before he decided it wasn't worth the ratio.

Why do dudes like this think that women want to snuggle up to a strip of beef jerky? Not hating on anyone that’s attracted to this physique, but I think the average woman looks at this pic and feels absolutely nothing resembling desire.

I feel significant revulsion, fwiw.

Performing for the male gaze. Just hook up with one of his gym bros

what does "smart autists" mean in this context? I'm not seeing much in the way of smarts, and I'm simply perplexed at the interjection of autism. oOwOo

Has anyone told them that bench pressing women isn't actually sex?

Women are usually not into the bodybuilder look. Gay men often are but usu not straight women

Actually, many (most?) gay/bi guys don't really like that look either. Healthy and toned? Yeah, maybe. The insane steroid look? Nah.

It's a little scary when a guy is really strong because we just have to hope he's actually a good guy and won't hurt us.

The funny (or sad) part is that truly strong guys do not look like that. And I bet that guy can't walk nine steps without having to take a rest.

She wanted a guy with a kind heart and a great sense of humour?

Bless his tiny 🥜

Lord Jesus where does one begin?

Leuk, maar later krijgt hij spijt van, omdat hij een dikke bierbuik krijgt, als hij stopt met deze onzin. Kijk maar goed naar Arnold schwarzenegger!! Nu heeft hij dikke buik...