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Mike Honcho @lasergoblin666.bsky.social

Are you kidding me? There is hard data to suggest both countries will age out due to the lack of population replacement between both countries, there is no “assertion” about it. You can go pout and deny it if it makes you fell better about it I guess.

aug 28, 2025, 1:49 am • 5 0

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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

Nah this person is trying to paint it as racist to say that Korean and Japanese culture are the cause despite literally every study and all research done into it shows it's the culture as the Korean government can't even pay people to have kids.

aug 28, 2025, 1:51 am • 3 0 • view
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Mike Honcho @lasergoblin666.bsky.social

I literally read up on this shit out of interest lol, it blows my mind that both countries, both of which have fairly good standards of living, have to beg the population to have kids. If that doesn’t scream how bad both cultures are to both parents and kids, then what will ultimately?

aug 28, 2025, 1:56 am • 5 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

They LITERALLY cannot pay people to have kids. The Korean government has tried a ton of different incentive structures to boost fertility rates and none of it worked. The women in Korea themselves explain why and that it's the work culture, the expectations placed on them, and the fact they are

aug 28, 2025, 1:59 am • 11 1 • view
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David Soto @davsot.bsky.social

So it’s the household culture

aug 28, 2025, 1:26 pm • 0 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

You can't separate workplace, household, and just culture. They all tie into eachother. There's major social expectations on women that women aren't happy with in Korea and so would rather focus on their own career instead of dealing with the negative issues.

aug 28, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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David Soto @davsot.bsky.social

Aren’t you agreeing with what the other guy said?

aug 28, 2025, 6:35 pm • 0 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

treated like single parents in a marriage.

aug 28, 2025, 1:59 am • 10 0 • view
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debmacc.bsky.social @debmacc.bsky.social

Good for them if that's the reason. Feeling like a single parent when married is not exclusive to Asian culture.

aug 28, 2025, 5:12 am • 2 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

Yeah, nobody said it was. There's a lot of factors and these countries tend to have very conservative and traditional views of family roles.

aug 28, 2025, 11:29 am • 0 0 • view
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Ross @flicksfan.bsky.social

That is your interpretation of the data. China is incentivizing birth rates now.

aug 28, 2025, 1:59 am • 0 0 • view
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Mike Honcho @lasergoblin666.bsky.social

Because the one child policy failed and there’s a disproportionate male to female ratio that forced them to do that? Imagine that

aug 28, 2025, 2:06 am • 2 0 • view
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Ross @flicksfan.bsky.social

I'm just trying to say that a declining population is world wide in 'first world countries' and picking off particular ones and claiming their 'toxic cultures' to be behind it is erroneous. (we had 3 kids for what it's worth, 2 of them when were very much on the bones of our bums)

aug 28, 2025, 2:14 am • 0 0 • view
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Ross @flicksfan.bsky.social

'toxic cultures' Nothing racist there

aug 28, 2025, 1:57 am • 1 0 • view
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Mike Honcho @lasergoblin666.bsky.social

If people are choosing not to have kids to extend it, then how is it not toxic? That’s the crux here.

aug 28, 2025, 1:59 am • 1 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

To be clear, they are TRYING and FAILING. www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/chin... It always boils down to gender inequality and cost of living. It's always culture and social economics.

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aug 28, 2025, 2:05 am • 0 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

Posting this under you since they blocked me lol.

aug 28, 2025, 2:05 am • 0 0 • view
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Ross @flicksfan.bsky.social

OK we should return to the days before free access to contraception when there were families of 5 - 10 kids? It's a world decline, and women are able to consider vocation over having 'One for mum, one for Dad, and one for the country' as one Australian Treasurer infamously suggested.

aug 28, 2025, 2:04 am • 0 0 • view