Comedy writing is a good example of this because everyone thinks they’re funny but no one wants to put in effort, eat shit, rinse, repeat for 5 years
Comedy writing is a good example of this because everyone thinks they’re funny but no one wants to put in effort, eat shit, rinse, repeat for 5 years
Hey wait a second isn't that the thorne who was selling NFTs and claimed anyone who talked shit was being queerphobic or whatever because the "project"(scam) was coming from a queer angle or whatever the fuck
Fair, but that process is how we got Bill Maher, Jay Leno, and Joe Rogan.
It's also how we got the greatest comedy minds of our generation and thousands of people who don't suck shit, so maybe don't blame the process of practicing your craft on the success of a few shitheads
easy bro
Girls endure more social pressure than boys. Telling jokes is the height of social risk. You jump in and interrupt whatever’s going on. What if nobody laughs? What if people think I’m weird? Part of hiring more women in comedy is encouraging girls to do it early
Making animals in 2025 look like Lisa Frank critters from 1989 is not “art”, “talent”, or “interesting”
Yeah if it feels like a painful slog to learn something and you don't enjoy learning And practicing then you should probably make peace with the fact that you like the idea of it but don't actually enjoy it.
It's akin to wanting to be a popstar but not actually liking to sing or dance or write. You like the idea of people admiring you for a skill, but you have no interest in doing the thing you want to be admired for lol.
It applies elsewhere, too. In strength sports, the all-time great Ronnie Coleman made it a catchphrase: "Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wants to lift these heavy-ass weights." He'd yell it to psych himself up before a set, then say "but I will!" and lift something ludicrously heavy.
Wilkie Mahoney expressed his thoughts on comedy writing in a letter to my father,
Wait, are we supposed to stop eating shit after 5 years?
This reminds me of people who ask professional writers if someone might 'steal their idea'. Ideas are easy, writers already have 100s of them. It's actually writing the whole thing that's hard. And AI will never write it for you in a way that is anything other than derivative, generic or anodyne.
Every well known stand up comic has a story they tell in interviews describing disastrous early shows. Anyone with any sense must surely realise that no art form involves just rocking up and being brilliant at it first time. These people are just lazy, let's be honest.
When they can make an ai that can get the same puke distance I did after leaving my first open mic, I might reconsider their points.
Right. I mean, *maybe* I'm funny enough to achieve middling success but fuck all that work. I hate work. I'm bad at work. And there are enough professional funny people in the world already.
A writing professor once told us, "Writing is not an art. It's a discipline..."
I've heard that to become a writer, you need to spend several 1,000 hours cranking out a few 100s words/hr I can attest that to be a trumpet player, you need several 1,000 hours of not being good to listen to, before people will pay you to play for them I expect these learning curves are typical
I understand frustration but if you "hate" practicing, maybe this isn't your calling? I wish it didn't take me a million hours to make a script better but improving is worth it. Advancements you can only achieve thru AI are akin to the satisfaction people seem to get from successfully stealing jokes
Right? I’m glad there are people who pour their lives into the discipline of drawing and painting because I ain’t doing it!
and i’m so mad when i think about everyone who won’t bother trying now
I don't believe people will stop trying because of AI. Creatives don't become creatives because they want to write prompts. I think there are people who will find good creative uses for AI, but even then, what they do will be nothing like person-who-wishes-they-were-an-artist-but-it's-so-much-work.
I’m reminded of a point in one of Malcolm Gladwell’s books, I think Outliers, where he talks about a study done on musicians; their level vs the amount of practice they did. Unsurprisingly the people practicing more week on week were at a higher level than those not practicing as much. But! >
The study also exposed the myth of the ‘natural talent’, someone who didn’t practice but was amazing, and also found no one who practiced all the time and never got better. Conclusion? Practice works. Put the time and effort into constructive practice at a skill and you _will_ improve.
I really find it hard to empathise with people who complain about how ‘awful’ or ‘miserable’ it is to learn art. Change your mindset. You’re looking at this all wrong. Take joy in the process, not the result, and you’ll find over time the results improve.