I think hating this Labour government and Starmer and everyone involved in it, is the only good and correct position to have
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Yes if this is just about the cabinet members & some HoL members! There are some good Labour Party members left. I wish they would leave the Labour Party
aug 9, 2025, 6:43 pm • 1 0 • view
And go where?
aug 10, 2025, 4:43 pm • 0 0 • view
BULLSHIT
aug 9, 2025, 7:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Let me ask you a simple question as an outsider looking in: if not Labour or Conservative, then who? Who will make things right for Britain? Seriously.
aug 10, 2025, 2:20 am • 0 0 • view
Taking this as a serious question: whoever is willing to put the work in... There are other parties and we are not tied to the "traditional" ones (the collapse of the conservatives at the last election is a case in point)
aug 11, 2025, 9:36 am • 0 0 • view
Do you want the Tories back, or are you hoping for Farage as PM?
aug 9, 2025, 5:35 pm • 0 1 • view
We have finally achieved the British version of.. Vote Blue no matter who... We've finally caught up with America...
aug 10, 2025, 10:23 am • 2 0 • view
What do you mean "back"? They're still in charge. Pay attention to their words & actions rather than the colour of their rosette.
aug 11, 2025, 9:07 am • 0 0 • view
There are things they've done that would align to that view. But there are so many things they've done that are radically different to the Tories.
aug 11, 2025, 9:52 am • 0 0 • view
"We must accept this cunt because otherwise we'll end up with a different cunt" isn't the winning argument you think it is Jon.
aug 9, 2025, 9:06 pm • 3 0 • view
Imagine the Tories being back. How awful. We'd have establishment politics and awful racist and bigoted policies to distract the electorate while wealth inequality soars and living standards fall further. Oh.
aug 9, 2025, 6:14 pm • 12 0 • view
Tax the rich so that more than half of the wealth ends up in the middle class!
aug 10, 2025, 7:29 am • 0 0 • view
Farage is already PM, his clone just has better branding.
aug 9, 2025, 5:40 pm • 32 0 • view
Oh, that's just ridiculous.
aug 9, 2025, 5:41 pm • 1 0 • view
No, it's not. You're just another uneducated white dude that isn't the target of his vicious policies, and thus doesn't care.
aug 9, 2025, 5:43 pm • 20 0 • view
It's never a positive in a discussion when people leap straight to personal (and uninformed) insults.
aug 9, 2025, 5:46 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s less of an insult and more of an observation. If you didn’t want to come across as uneducated, you should have replied in a more informed manner, lad,
aug 9, 2025, 5:55 pm • 9 1 • view
"Lad"?!!!!!
aug 9, 2025, 5:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Did I stutter?
aug 9, 2025, 5:57 pm • 9 0 • view
Maybe he's worried you're paying him uninformed compliments
aug 9, 2025, 6:15 pm • 1 0 • view
He rudely interjected into a conversation he wasn’t involved wit,h to display a child-like understanding of the subject matter. If he was expecting anything other than condescension as a result, he has too high an opinion of himself, lol.
aug 9, 2025, 6:46 pm • 1 0 • view
I'd have gone with 'cunt', personally.
aug 9, 2025, 6:47 pm • 3 0 • view
It’s funny to me that dickheads like him think swear words are worse than racism (by funny, I mean tragically funny).
aug 9, 2025, 7:08 pm • 3 0 • view
And I find it deeply offensive when people accuse me of racism.
aug 9, 2025, 7:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Every time
aug 9, 2025, 7:12 pm • 1 0 • view
It's also never positive in a discussion when some windbag does a "what about the other guy" part because they can't actually address the point. Crap in, crap out.
aug 9, 2025, 5:47 pm • 11 0 • view
Guy who insults reform people gets upset with people criticising him for supporting a party that mimicks reform. Hypocrit.
aug 9, 2025, 7:40 pm • 1 0 • view
you're not here in good faith, you got the response you deserve. if you actually gave a shit about more than just your own personal circumstances you'd attempted to actually have a discussion, which you didn't. You came here as an old, white, middle class man, to patronise a young woman.
aug 9, 2025, 6:00 pm • 5 0 • view
Charming. Have a nice evening.
aug 9, 2025, 6:01 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm chronically ill and disabled, the government are doing everything in their power to take away my access to the community and my autonomy. I won't be having a nice evening. You patronising cunt.
aug 9, 2025, 6:05 pm • 7 0 • view
not interested in having discussions with starmer supporters. he’s the worst pm of my life and an absolutely vile bigot.
aug 9, 2025, 5:52 pm • 17 0 • view
I like that the first reply he did was pretty insulting, then got upset when ppl were dismissive and at times, insulting back.
aug 9, 2025, 7:26 pm • 3 0 • view
Classic case of "I'm a well off white guy, and it would be just horrible for Reform to treat me the way Labour are treating you".
aug 9, 2025, 7:30 pm • 3 0 • view
Pretty much.
aug 9, 2025, 8:28 pm • 2 0 • view
Have a couple of informed ones: I feel like I just read a Farrow & Ball colour chart. Do you announce you'll be doing wry observations in advance down the pub? Or just on the internet?
aug 9, 2025, 6:07 pm • 6 0 • view
Who said it was a discussion?
aug 9, 2025, 5:55 pm • 3 0 • view
implying people want Farage to win is deeply insulting, doubly so because you know it isn't true
aug 9, 2025, 5:59 pm • 4 0 • view
No really
aug 9, 2025, 5:46 pm • 10 0 • view
It is ridiculous. Farage clearly has the better branding.
aug 9, 2025, 6:25 pm • 7 0 • view
That is a voice of privilege...
aug 9, 2025, 7:01 pm • 1 0 • view
Respectfully Jon, while it is easier to dismiss our anger, pain and fear, I strongly suggest you listen and ask yourself why we feel that way.
aug 9, 2025, 5:52 pm • 5 0 • view
Genuinely respectfully, I understand absolutely. But I also know that letting Badenoch or Farage in isn't going to help.
aug 9, 2025, 5:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Really? Because you're in the comments of a trans woman, talking over her.
aug 9, 2025, 5:57 pm • 4 0 • view
And from what you post, the only thing that seems to actually offend you is some MAGA wacko suggesting that sir kid starver wouldn't win a war.
aug 9, 2025, 5:57 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm not talking over her. But anyway...
aug 9, 2025, 5:58 pm • 0 0 • view
Your response was clearly intended to dismiss her fears about Labour, and crow on about people who aren't in government. If that isn't you talking over her, then what the hell is it?
aug 9, 2025, 6:00 pm • 3 0 • view
Literally not.
aug 9, 2025, 6:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Clearly yes. You suggest that everyone who has a problem with Labour wants Reform to win. And you're too egotistical to even see how patronising and dismissive of a response that is.
aug 9, 2025, 6:02 pm • 0 0 • view
That may not have been your intent, but that is how you have come across in this thread.
aug 9, 2025, 6:05 pm • 3 0 • view
I get that it may look like that to you. I need you understand that, from my perspective, there is no functional difference. Seriously. There is nothing that Baenoch/Farage et al will do that Labour (both previous and current) will not do as well.
aug 9, 2025, 6:04 pm • 3 0 • view
Any time anyone criticises Labour some dickhead pops up to make this exact point, as if you are intellectually incapable of understanding politics beyond the narrow decision made in the voting booth. This far out from an election it's entirely valid to criticise the actual government.
aug 9, 2025, 5:58 pm • 31 3 • view
You are aware the op calls them vermin, is that something you agree with or something you missed?.
aug 10, 2025, 5:32 am • 1 0 • view
Your final sentence would be spot on, if it wasn't framed with an insult.
aug 9, 2025, 6:00 pm • 1 0 • view
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, dipshit. there's a thousand guys like you making this exact point every other second and I'm tired of acting like it deserves anything other than naked contempt
aug 9, 2025, 6:03 pm • 20 0 • view
So rude.
aug 9, 2025, 6:05 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm sure you can pull on your big boy pants and get over it
aug 9, 2025, 6:07 pm • 14 0 • view
Yep. Just a shame when people are abusive to strangers online.
aug 9, 2025, 6:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Try not patronising people and see if it makes a difference
aug 9, 2025, 6:12 pm • 10 0 • view
Literally, I could say the same to you based on your comments here.
aug 9, 2025, 6:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Boo fucking hoo
aug 10, 2025, 7:09 am • 1 0 • view
Your guy is mimicking Farage and has adopted policies that are more tory than the tories ever dared to run with. So many centrists are such lazy thinkers. It's almost like they actually have far right sympathies but need to find socially acceptable ways of supporting the far right.
aug 9, 2025, 7:38 pm • 6 0 • view
I disagree, and don't have a far right bone in my body, but it's entirely fine for us to have different opinions.
aug 9, 2025, 7:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Then why are you supporting a party that mimicks reform's rhetoric and adopts extreme tory policies? Why is it ok for Starmer to demonise immigrants if it's not ok for reform to do the same? Why is it ok for him to support the removal of trans rights, when that is further to the right than reform?
aug 9, 2025, 7:46 pm • 7 0 • view
When did I say either of those things is OK?
aug 9, 2025, 7:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Right. So if it's not ok for Labour to do these things, why do you support them and why are you criticising people for not supporting them?
aug 9, 2025, 7:53 pm • 8 0 • view
Because overall, they're a better government than the Tories before them. I disagree (often profoundly) with some Labour policies; I disagreed profoundly with almost everything the Tories did.
aug 9, 2025, 7:59 pm • 0 0 • view
The lesser evil mantra that has been shown to lead to ever further right-wing policies in many countries But your point was that we should not want Farage. Nobody here wants Farage, which is exactly the reason they don't support a party that mimicks reform Surely you understand their reasoning?
aug 9, 2025, 8:06 pm • 9 0 • view
You are correct in your assesment I'm an ex Tory member It is tribal supporters like Jon that meant One Nation Tories were unable to prevent the party from being taken over by UKIP crazies. Jon has no moral values His failiure to hold Labour to account has ruined Labour and is ruining the UK.
aug 9, 2025, 8:13 pm • 4 0 • view
I think Jon probably does have morals but hasn't thought enough about why other people, who also have morals, think the way they do. Also hasn't thought about the consequences of supporting the lesser evil, which has been a tactic that has fuelled the far right in many countries & within parties.
aug 9, 2025, 8:17 pm • 3 0 • view
At least we're united in wanting to make sure we don't end up with Farage - which was the simple point I made that led to so many people piling into me.
aug 9, 2025, 8:08 pm • 0 0 • view
But your point was that we should support a party that mimicks reform so we don't end up with reform. You're saying that we should endorse a party with reform-like policies and rhetoric. That's why people are piling in to you.
aug 9, 2025, 8:13 pm • 5 0 • view
Stop supporting a far right government then
aug 9, 2025, 11:37 pm • 0 0 • view
jfc dude, politics isn't a little game of teams in coloured bibs - this Labour government is at least, if not more, callous and useless than Sunak's Tories grow up
aug 9, 2025, 5:50 pm • 24 0 • view
Whatever we get in the future; it's all down to Starmers Labour.
aug 9, 2025, 9:19 pm • 2 0 • view
People who lack the capacity to understand that all political parties are coalitions of sorts, and as soon as the Starmer project fails, and we get a lefty leader in like Rayner or Burnham, that alternative will be there. Sick of people thinking because JC didn’t win an election it’s the end
aug 9, 2025, 10:02 pm • 0 0 • view
please vote for a punch in the face otherwise we'll all get a kick in the bollocks [4 years later] please vote for a kick in the bollocks or we'll all get a hammer in the cranium
aug 9, 2025, 6:27 pm • 7 0 • view
Btw even the Tories were not this malicious towards trans people and immigrants and they didn’t cut disability payments either. Right now the Tories are actually the LESSER of two evils.
aug 9, 2025, 11:36 pm • 2 0 • view
The Tories are fucking in Jon. Haven’t you paid attention? There’s nothing labour are doing now that Rishi Sunak wouldn’t have done.
aug 9, 2025, 10:33 pm • 0 0 • view
So if Corbyn's party becomes the 2nd most popular after Reform, you'll be voting for them? Even if every one of their policies and statements goes against what you believe in your core about social justice, you'd vote for them as the lesser of two evils?
aug 12, 2025, 5:56 am • 0 0 • view
Corbyn vs Farage? Probably. But it's not going to happen.
aug 12, 2025, 6:32 am • 0 0 • view
OK, but you voted for him when he was Labour leader presumably? The far right threat has been with us since the 70s at least
aug 12, 2025, 8:32 am • 0 0 • view
Yes. Labour were the only party who could dislodge the Tories at the last election, and I live in a very marginal seat between the two parties.
aug 12, 2025, 2:42 pm • 1 0 • view
Labour will deliver the country to Farage. They are a right wing party and their disgraceful right wing policies have made sure nobody will vote for them. They stand to gain barely any right wing voters, not enough to win a future election. Whilst losing most of their left wing voters. Genius.
aug 9, 2025, 6:13 pm • 7 0 • view
How would that make anything worse for the kids living in poverty, the migrants drowning in the channel, the OAPs who've died of the cold, trans people, or disabled people, or people reliant on foreign aid? Because these policies have all been deliberately worsened/instituted by Labour.
aug 9, 2025, 6:07 pm • 11 0 • view
who is your actual audience here. People who are so scared of the very right wing Tory party and the very right wing Reform party that they vote for the very right wing Labour Party of 2025, which attacks the same minorities daily and in fact tries to triangulate the other 2 from the right
aug 9, 2025, 6:15 pm • 43 1 • view
People like this just treat it like sport. Celebrating "getting the Tories out" with zero care for what's coming in or why. In reality, a failing Tory government with proper opposition from the left would be a better situation and far less likely to hand government to Reform.
aug 9, 2025, 6:28 pm • 4 0 • view
Starmer has also, along with Lammy, given material support for genocide and publicly supported starving a civilian population. He's done more domestically to criminalise peaceful protest than ANY other British PM. Why the FUCK do we owe him support because there are other right wingers available?
aug 9, 2025, 6:18 pm • 16 0 • view
Jon is threading the needle for what, as far as I can tell, is one voter, and it's him.
aug 9, 2025, 6:30 pm • 2 0 • view
How many times. It’s the red team doing it now so it’s fine
aug 9, 2025, 6:17 pm • 5 0 • view
You're way too old to be this deep in denial. Or maybe you just like the colour red, that's the only difference at this point. Promoting a supposedly lesser fascist is still promoting fascism. You can't vote away dark money.
aug 9, 2025, 6:37 pm • 3 0 • view
Can hold the current PM to account no? keep on boot licking mate
aug 9, 2025, 6:02 pm • 1 0 • view
Cant*
aug 9, 2025, 6:03 pm • 1 0 • view
I’m an American and even I know you’re full of shit.
aug 9, 2025, 6:24 pm • 3 0 • view
Bore off, Jon
aug 9, 2025, 5:40 pm • 45 0 • view
Jon, offered options of dog shit, pig shit, and horse shit for dinner, smugly tucks into his plate of dog shit, confident that it can be no other way
aug 9, 2025, 6:12 pm • 5 0 • view
how are you still so bad at this
aug 9, 2025, 6:39 pm • 2 0 • view
'Wait, the fleas can vote? Shake them back on, shake them back on!!!'
aug 9, 2025, 6:06 pm • 9 0 • view
what would be the difference with either of those?
aug 9, 2025, 5:40 pm • 6 0 • view
If people like Lina criticising Labour is enough to allow those things to happen, perhaps Labour could try pandering to her opinions instead of the opinions of Farage and the Tories?
aug 9, 2025, 5:51 pm • 27 0 • view
Tedious.
aug 9, 2025, 5:57 pm • 2 0 • view
Do you think it's a bad sign that your only defence of Starmer is a strategy that failed so badly when the Democrats used it last year that Trump became the first Republican to win the popular vote since 2004?
aug 9, 2025, 5:47 pm • 13 0 • view
That's a complete non-sequitur.
aug 9, 2025, 5:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Is it? Harris's Democratic campaign took strategy advice from Starmer's Labour.
aug 9, 2025, 7:04 pm • 2 0 • view
So you are denying that the central plank of the Democrats offer in 2024 was that it was the most important election of our lives because it was them or Trump's fascism?
aug 9, 2025, 5:52 pm • 10 0 • view
Back? They've never left office, just switched out the bobblehead! From my point of view, as a disabled queer trans PoC, there is no functional difference.
aug 9, 2025, 5:43 pm • 6 0 • view
There's not a lick of difference between Labour and the Tories now. Stop defending the indefensible
aug 10, 2025, 10:53 am • 3 0 • view
That's simply untrue. But still, we're entitled to different opinions.
aug 10, 2025, 1:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Sure, you keep telling yourself that
aug 10, 2025, 1:30 pm • 1 0 • view
Halo 1 is obviously great but for me Halo 3 will always be the best. The multiplayer alone was next level at the time and really took off in the MLG circles. It all went downhill after they did Reach and the Wars games. Still hasn't fully recovered but the last game was decent enough
aug 9, 2025, 6:05 pm • 7 0 • view
Halo 1 is still the only completely successful Halo game. Halo 2's online multiplayer was great but the addition of sniper rifles turned the 1up experience from a thrilling gunfight into the exact same duck and cover bullshit as every other FPS. I've not played any of the others cos 2 sucked so much
aug 10, 2025, 7:14 am • 1 0 • view
don’t be ridiculous. the one where lister and rimmer get marooned is clearly the best episode
aug 9, 2025, 6:12 pm • 3 0 • view
id rather boil my own head... probably less painful
aug 9, 2025, 5:41 pm • 3 0 • view
hard to see the difference between current anti-immigrant, bash the poor and the disabled, rah rah Israel, can't tax wealth 'Labour', and Reform TBH. In some cases, like nationalisation, Reform are more 'Left' than Labour. Luckily, I'm Scottish and have a genuine centre left party to vote for
aug 10, 2025, 2:58 pm • 2 0 • view
Farage is likely winning next time, regardless - due in large part to how utterly charmless, dishonest, dull witted, venal & incompetent the current government is. We didn't get rid of the tories, we got tories in red ties who are now aping Reform too since they have zero vision of their own.
aug 10, 2025, 6:27 pm • 0 0 • view
You're right that Farage brings charisma, much as I loathe him - in the same way that Trump does in the US.
aug 10, 2025, 6:53 pm • 0 0 • view
How would we know the difference, Jon? I guess the two child benefit cap would be lifted and the water companies would be nationalised
aug 9, 2025, 6:24 pm • 4 0 • view
I mean, you'd have to explain what is functionally different from a labour government that is doing things that its claimed that reform would do I they had power. Like, farage is now seen as to the left of starmer, on policy in some areas. Vote labour and get reform is not a winning strategy.
aug 9, 2025, 7:20 pm • 3 0 • view
I certainly think Farage is playing the populist card very cleverly, in the same way Trump did in the States (and that he did himself during the Brexit campaign). It's worrying. But in no way to me is he fundamentally anything other than hard right wing.
aug 9, 2025, 7:27 pm • 0 0 • view
"you'd have to explain what is functionally different from a labour government that is doing things that its claimed that reform would do" Still waiting for you to do this bit. You're insisting they're different and better than Tory & Reform, but producing zero evidence
aug 10, 2025, 6:35 pm • 0 0 • view
It's not hard to find lists of things Labour have delivered since the election, if you feel like using Google. And I just despair at the idea that this government, for all its flaws and mistakes, is the same as Farage's far-right extremists.
aug 10, 2025, 6:52 pm • 0 0 • view
wool
aug 9, 2025, 6:08 pm • 2 0 • view
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
aug 9, 2025, 8:05 pm • 2 0 • view
Absolutely.
aug 9, 2025, 8:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Along with Tories & ReformUK. Three peas in a pod. Three cheeks of the same arse. Hate them all.
aug 9, 2025, 5:45 pm • 6 0 • view
Albeit a thankless one
aug 11, 2025, 10:38 am • 0 0 • view
👏🏻
aug 11, 2025, 8:20 am • 0 0 • view
To paraphrase Clausewitz: "Labour is nothing more than the continuation of Tory policy by other means." ...and this moose is sick of it.
aug 11, 2025, 11:12 am • 0 0 • view
I ain't a fan, but sadly don't see any better options right now. Tories are in the grip of the far right. If you are thinking of voting for the Trump psychophant - tame a look at what his hero is doing to U.S. Any ideas?
aug 9, 2025, 8:09 pm • 4 1 • view
This is my personal favourite photo, maybe you remember it. This is from a few weeks ago in Scotland when Trump was slagging off Sadiq Khan, the Muslim mayor of London and objectively one of the most successful Labour politicians of his generation. Starmer just called him a ‘friend’.
aug 10, 2025, 7:05 am • 12 0 • view
This is from when he went to the Oval Office and said the U.K. would send troops to defend Ukraine on the ground as soon as he got some assurances from Trump. Trump was very rude to Zelenskyy, then Starmer kissed his arse. Are there troops in Ukraine now? Did Starmer stand up to Trump? I forget.
aug 10, 2025, 7:08 am • 5 0 • view
Sorry, are you saying this Labour government are not far right?? Can you explain the maths on that one for me? Because last I checked they were arrestong peaceful protestor, saying fascist gangs had legitimate concerns, increasing austerity, and taking rights from trans people.
aug 10, 2025, 7:11 am • 64 1 • view
Silly professor, let me explain. Politics has 3 boxes: left, center, and right. The right box is already occupied by Reform so Labour definitionally cannot also occupy that box. Labour occupy the centre. The left is Corbyn. Everyone else is irrelevant which is why Labour have to chase the right box.
aug 10, 2025, 1:41 pm • 20 0 • view
Watching people do this for decades and continue to punch themselves in the face and learn nothing really is wild.
aug 10, 2025, 1:49 pm • 17 0 • view
It's just fortunate we eventually crossed paths so I could explain all these modern concepts to your pre-enlightenment thought-addled brain.
aug 10, 2025, 1:52 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm beginning to think that never learning a lesson and repeating the same mistakes over and over again is the essence of the human condition.
aug 10, 2025, 2:06 pm • 0 0 • view
I read an appropriate post somewhere along the lines:- "The lesson we learn from history is we don't learn from history"! Pretty depressing really.
aug 10, 2025, 3:10 pm • 1 0 • view
The current Home Secretary, who says she has evidence of an imminent terrorist threat from Palestine Action, is a politician who voted for the Iraq War and who blocked any investigation into how we got involved in it. Maybe the there’s a reason ‘we’ never learn in there – but keep me out of it.
aug 10, 2025, 3:35 pm • 3 0 • view
I believe it's called sensible politics, I think you'll find 😏 - I am very smart.
aug 10, 2025, 1:54 pm • 2 0 • view
Labour are in the grip of the far right you damn fool
aug 10, 2025, 7:31 am • 4 0 • view
Greens, Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid Cymru, Party McPartyFace featuring Jeremy Corbyn, local independents...
aug 10, 2025, 7:07 am • 5 0 • view
Look at how much your comments under this are getting absolutely eviscerated and you tell me that you think Starmer has a snowball’s chance in 2029.
aug 10, 2025, 11:09 am • 0 0 • view
If we don't solve the economic problems by getting investment into Britain from at home and abroad so that we can afford to spend money on Health, Education, Welfare, Law and Order, and better living standards, sooner or later an extremist party will win power and it will not end well.
aug 10, 2025, 12:12 pm • 0 0 • view
No, nor do I care. And he may well not last that long. I just hope enough of the sensible non- extremist ones from all parties, are elected to prevent either the extreme left or extreme right parties have a major influence on Government.
aug 10, 2025, 12:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Labour *is* the grip of the far right. And kier is also trump sycophant. Hey we always have the Corbyn Zultana party. I’m decent sure I won’t hear about 71 year old ladies getting arrested at protests with Corbyn in charge.
aug 9, 2025, 10:30 pm • 96 0 • view
Forget Corbyn - it's a protest party. He is a far left anti-semite extremist who hi-jacked the Labour Party and was happy to turn a blind eye to momentum intimidating and threatening party members who did not tow the line - well meaning dangerous fool.
aug 10, 2025, 1:03 am • 1 1 • view
🤣
aug 11, 2025, 6:51 am • 0 0 • view
Of all the people of the world, the ones I have the most contempt for are those who were happy to go along with antisemitism smears because they thought it might mean Labour got a more pro-EU leader.
aug 10, 2025, 5:20 pm • 27 0 • view
I went along with "anti-semitic smears" because Corbyn was nearly mouthed and did not come out and condemn it. Jewish people were intimidated and he looked the other way. Two wrongs do not make a right. This Israeli Government is evil. Not most Jews or Israeli's.
aug 11, 2025, 4:50 am • 1 0 • view
Condemn what? The vast majority of AS was about Israel's actions Not Jews
aug 11, 2025, 4:59 am • 13 0 • view
Corbyn was weak and mealy mouthed on condemning that intimidation of Jews which fanned the flames.
aug 11, 2025, 5:17 am • 0 0 • view
Until he was blue in the face: www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...
aug 11, 2025, 6:35 am • 2 1 • view
What happened was that Ian McNicol’s team were poorly prepared for dealing with social media complaints, and when they were offered support by members of Corbyn’s team to deal with the backlog they were paranoid it would be used as an excuse to sack them for incompetence, so refused.
aug 11, 2025, 6:40 am • 2 1 • view
That’s my most charitable reading of events. They then went and decided to either cover their own arses or use Jewish suffering as a factional tool by blaming LOTO when the only thing done wrong was not sacking McNicol and his underqualified and overpaid team sooner.
aug 11, 2025, 6:43 am • 3 0 • view
This has been going on now for years And all you mentioned are Zionists supporters You wrong, and centrists like you love to push the BS still all know it was and aa it is now Condemn Israel actions and you're AS Corbyn had to stand these lies for years Now 700K people will call your BS out
aug 11, 2025, 5:38 am • 1 0 • view
If you're gonna invent history, at least make it fun. Put some dragons in there.
aug 12, 2025, 3:30 am • 0 0 • view
Listen to people like David Baddiel and Margaret Hodge. Jews over here are intimidated and fear for their lives and of potential attacks on their schools. NO-ONE, Palestinians, Jews or anyone in our Society should feel that way.
aug 11, 2025, 5:12 am • 0 0 • view
Bullshit
aug 11, 2025, 8:11 am • 2 0 • view
David Badiel? The guy who did blackface in the 90s? I'd use better examples if I were you.
aug 11, 2025, 7:12 am • 2 0 • view
Margaret Hodge famously claimed that literally every single mention of her online was one instance of "antisemitic abuse". You could not have picked a worse example
aug 11, 2025, 6:37 am • 18 2 • view
I mean, maybe John Mann. morningstaronline.co.uk/node/49953
aug 11, 2025, 6:44 am • 1 0 • view
But this is just one lie. Hodge is in a different league!
aug 11, 2025, 6:46 am • 3 0 • view
She not only made this absurd and completely false claim loudly and repeatedly in news interviews, but also in written submitted evidence for the Online Safety Act, several months after it was pointed out to her that being retweeted generally does not constitute "abuse" of any kind.
aug 11, 2025, 6:45 am • 13 0 • view
Baddiel invented an anti semitism scare in order to sell books. If he was so concerned about racism he would’ve apologised for the person he publicly racially abused instead of saying it was bad in a single column and then getting an arse on whenever people point out he never apologised for it.
aug 11, 2025, 5:38 am • 25 0 • view
When he did do it eventually to Jason, it was on camera. It was so mealy mouthed I am shocked Jason accepted it. He is a better man than I am.
aug 11, 2025, 7:07 am • 5 0 • view
It is not possible for governments in western Europe, to remove or suppress everything which makes the Jewish minorities uncomfortable or fearful.
aug 11, 2025, 1:12 pm • 0 0 • view
The Jewish minorities in western Europe do indeed feel threatened, but their response is to isolate themselves, and uncritically support Israel - which is immoral in the current circumstances.
aug 11, 2025, 1:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Baddiel of blackface and Hodge of BNP policies?!
aug 11, 2025, 7:00 am • 5 0 • view
Hodge of smearing a CSA survivor fame. That woman should have been hou ded out of public life 20 years ago. A truly abysmal human being.
aug 12, 2025, 3:47 pm • 2 0 • view
David "blackface" Baddiel and Margaret "apartheid" Hodge? Jesus Christ man
aug 11, 2025, 6:26 am • 20 0 • view
that the same margaret hodge who led islington council when they granted planning permission to a housing development to build over a jewish cemetary that is now a grade ii monument. the same cemetary jeremy corbyn was a member of the campaign to save from destruction?
aug 11, 2025, 5:53 am • 23 0 • view
two of the very worst people to listen to but do go on Hodge went on an expenses-paid, gin-soaked knees-up to see Herzog AFTER the genocide started btw in case you missed it Hardly a voice of objective competence is she
aug 11, 2025, 5:44 am • 13 0 • view
Listen to the man who came out in blackface with a pineapple on his head, and the woman that never forgave Corbyn for challenging the sale of a Jewish cemetery to some property developers.
aug 11, 2025, 6:20 am • 19 0 • view
🎯
aug 11, 2025, 11:19 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh wow. You listing those two shows just how out to lunch you are. Incredible scenes.
aug 11, 2025, 6:50 am • 5 0 • view
Most Israelis hate Palestinians
aug 11, 2025, 4:53 am • 11 0 • view
Most Palestinians hate Israelis. They've been blowing the hell out of each other for well over a C. We won't solve it by justifying one side over the other.
aug 11, 2025, 5:25 am • 0 0 • view
Israel didn't fucking exist just one century ago.
aug 11, 2025, 5:39 am • 9 0 • view
That's pedantic. Yeah, but the troubles go back to the Balfour Agreement and long before.
aug 11, 2025, 6:52 am • 0 0 • view
No, it's a simple fact.
aug 11, 2025, 8:13 am • 1 0 • view
So, not Israel.
aug 11, 2025, 11:03 am • 4 0 • view
Do some reading about the Ottoman sanjaks when they were ran by Palestinians with high levels of autonomy. There was over a century of peace where Christians, Muslims and Jews all lived alongside one another more peacefully than Catholics and Protestants in Europe at that time.
aug 11, 2025, 7:05 am • 0 0 • view
I would hate people who were massacring me and my family by the tens of thousands too.
aug 11, 2025, 5:27 am • 7 0 • view
Yep, & I prob would too. I am outraged every day. I wish everyone esp. Would stop arming Israel.
aug 11, 2025, 6:39 am • 0 0 • view
You should stop two siding what is happening and jumping on the everyone who have ever opposed the settler colonial state of israel (who have been ethnically cleansing Palestine for 76 years) are antisemites then… Because Jim, it makes you seem like an imperialist racist with dog shit for brains.
aug 11, 2025, 6:50 am • 5 0 • view
Most Palestinians have lost multiple family members and almost all their country to Israelis. The reverse is not true, so giving it equivalence here is disingenuous and racist.
aug 11, 2025, 6:32 am • 19 1 • view
You have shit for brains
aug 11, 2025, 5:30 am • 2 0 • view
aug 11, 2025, 6:45 am • 1 1 • view
Then Keith whipped the PLP into voting for the final Brexit deal...
aug 12, 2025, 3:11 am • 0 0 • view
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aug 10, 2025, 6:58 am • 11 0 • view
Christ you people are fucking boring
aug 10, 2025, 10:56 am • 13 0 • view
They just love to describe the current Labour Party and claim that's what Corbyn did
aug 10, 2025, 11:47 am • 10 0 • view
It's like you swallowed an old Daily Mail, vomited it up, ate it and then vomited again.
aug 10, 2025, 6:59 am • 31 0 • view
Uhh pretty sure starmer has imposed his authority far more on both the labour mps and the country in general
aug 10, 2025, 7:11 am • 9 0 • view
🤡
aug 10, 2025, 7:28 am • 2 0 • view
aug 11, 2025, 2:41 pm • 0 0 • view
A man who was repeatedly elected as a Labour MP for 45 years, then elected party leader by a huge margin, did not "hi-jack" the party, you utter clown. As for the "antisemite extremist" fuckwittery, have a word with yourself, you embarassing plum.
aug 11, 2025, 8:41 am • 2 0 • view
I hate to inform you of this, but Labour is currently led by a bigoted, antisemitic dullard who hijacked the party and constantly threatens its members when they don't tow the line Thank god he isn't 'far left' or 'well meaning' at least
aug 10, 2025, 7:15 am • 28 1 • view
Absolutely mindboggling that that anyone is still trying to argue that Starmer is somehow more tolerant of dissent or better on antisemitism after he infamously performed a purge of Jewish party members who were critical of Israeli policy
aug 10, 2025, 7:28 am • 30 1 • view
So he’s a well meaning dangerous antisemite extremist? I can tell you’re worth listening to.
aug 10, 2025, 10:31 am • 4 0 • view
Grow up you absolute wetwipe
aug 10, 2025, 10:16 am • 8 0 • view
Pfft fuck off with calling him an anti semite. That was trite before the whole “Israel committing genocide” thing but in this year 2025 it’s just embarrassing.
aug 10, 2025, 1:22 am • 52 1 • view
People like Jim who casually chuck around accusations of antisemitism are cavalier about depriving Jews of a powerful weapon against prejudice.
aug 10, 2025, 6:52 am • 27 0 • view
Where were they trying to tow the line to?
aug 10, 2025, 12:04 pm • 4 0 • view
Corbyn's extreme left agenda. Momentum threatened and intimidated sitting MPs and Party members who did not conform to their view. I'm not saying others have not done similar. Johnson has usurped and destroyed the Tory Party.
aug 10, 2025, 12:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Do you mean where Corbyn wanted local party members to be able to choose who represented them, while Starmer suspended popular MPs and whole local parties in order to parachute a whole bunch of his cronies into safe seats?
aug 11, 2025, 7:16 am • 2 0 • view
😂 Joker
aug 10, 2025, 7:15 am • 2 0 • view
You're in La La Land
aug 10, 2025, 6:44 am • 8 0 • view
I heard he grows water-melons on his allotment. The evidence really mounts up doesn't it Jim?
aug 10, 2025, 10:11 am • 5 0 • view
Wait is this not a bit
aug 10, 2025, 6:44 am • 5 0 • view
These lies aren't going to work this time: you'll need fresh ones and bigger ones if you really want to try and prop up the stinking corpse of the Labour Party
aug 11, 2025, 7:03 am • 2 0 • view
toe*
aug 11, 2025, 6:42 am • 1 0 • view
A lot of what you're saying here is made up, but on the subject of antisemitism... bsky.app/profile/jim-...
aug 11, 2025, 8:06 am • 2 0 • view
Signing your posts is a bit weird
aug 10, 2025, 6:42 am • 40 0 • view
[Chef's kiss]
aug 10, 2025, 6:43 am • 3 0 • view
u dont know what words mean
aug 10, 2025, 7:17 am • 12 0 • view
Nor get basic idioms right
aug 10, 2025, 10:49 am • 3 0 • view
Your brain is cooked.
aug 11, 2025, 1:14 am • 1 0 • view
he's very very slightly left of centre, and there's never been any evidence of him being anti-semetic, except that he doesn't support killing muslims for no reason. kier starmer is a far-right anti-semite, who upon becoming labour leader expelled many jewish members who disagreed with him, however.
aug 11, 2025, 8:10 am • 0 0 • view
what the fucking hell are you talking about. Any other talking points you've swallowed whole like a good boy? Holy fuck.
aug 11, 2025, 5:59 am • 3 0 • view
If you found momentum members intimidating then I fundamentally don't understand how you walk around outside without cowering with fear crying upon seeing a 70 year old woman or a slightly enthusiastic 23 year old.
aug 10, 2025, 10:34 am • 47 0 • view
Also, you're going to have to reconcile the tension between Corbyn being both well meaning and an antisemite in your words because you're leaving yourself open to a pretty nasty accusation if you can't.
aug 10, 2025, 10:38 am • 34 0 • view
he's leaving himself open to that accusation no matter what
aug 11, 2025, 8:12 am • 8 0 • view
Did somebody put dog-shit where your brain was meant to be?
aug 10, 2025, 7:03 am • 15 0 • view
You are a mug, a rube, a genuine thick bastard, and you seem to want to inflict your brain wormed stupidity on everyone else.
aug 10, 2025, 7:17 am • 13 0 • view
No amount of vitriole and invective is going to phase me, Sir. Nor will I lower myself to replying to you or any of the other Trolls in kind.
aug 10, 2025, 8:50 am • 0 0 • view
He's broken out the Sir! Countdown until he challenges someone to a duel is on.
aug 10, 2025, 10:08 am • 7 0 • view
"Ad hominem, Sir! Ad hominem! Oh forsooth, whither are the refined rules of debate from my day?"
aug 10, 2025, 10:19 am • 9 0 • view
😂
aug 10, 2025, 2:03 pm • 0 0 • view
You just lowered yourself and replied mate
aug 10, 2025, 10:42 am • 3 0 • view
Jim, you’ve cheered me right up! First time I’ve seen the momentum thugs trope dusted down for the Your Party era. Well done! I doubt you’re the first but you did it so effortlessly. First mention of many I hope. Good for you.
aug 10, 2025, 7:04 am • 16 0 • view
Racism and bigotry is probably more your sort of thing. Neil Coyle says 'Hi!' by the way.
aug 11, 2025, 7:11 am • 0 0 • view
It’s ‘toe the line’
aug 10, 2025, 8:51 am • 8 0 • view
All of that was disproven by an independent investigation.
aug 11, 2025, 7:10 am • 1 0 • view
Corbyn is simultaneously well meaning and a far left antisemite extremist
aug 10, 2025, 10:49 am • 7 0 • view
at least he’s well meaning then, which is more than you can say for anyone else in labour
aug 10, 2025, 7:05 am • 4 0 • view
FORDE REPORT: read it, you’re never to old to learn
aug 10, 2025, 7:09 am • 19 0 • view
powerfully stupid comment, thanks I think we all needed a laugh
aug 10, 2025, 7:24 am • 2 0 • view
How can someone who was a Labour MP for 45 years 'hijack' the party? You have worms in your brain. Scandinavian social democracy isn't 'far left extremism' and criticism of Israel isn't antisemitism
aug 10, 2025, 6:38 am • 177 5 • view
Also, they close with how he is "well-meaning". So they can't actually believe he is an antisemite trying to hijack Labour. Coz if they did they'd NEVER switch to the other tack of the chatty centrist: patronising head-patting of the silly billy left.
aug 10, 2025, 6:45 am • 94 0 • view
Here's a twist - turns out Jim Bob is on a mission to destroy the Labour govt! bsky.app/profile/jim-...
aug 10, 2025, 6:50 am • 26 0 • view
Patronising cunts is the definition of these "moderates".
aug 10, 2025, 10:42 am • 4 0 • view
Not to mention, it's a very strange hijacking if a large majority of the passengers (Party members) actively support the"hijacker"! Not once, but twice.
aug 10, 2025, 1:21 pm • 3 0 • view
fuck off with the anti-semite bullshit. Its such a tired and obvious lie. give it up already
aug 10, 2025, 6:17 pm • 8 0 • view
If we sorted out our political system and stopped large Unions, Corporate Businesses and Billionaire donors it would go a long way to sort our politics. Also need a radical change to the tax system.
aug 10, 2025, 7:07 pm • 0 0 • view
He turned a blind eye to Momentum's bullying and intimidation. You are like MAGA - only believe what fits your narrative.
aug 10, 2025, 6:57 pm • 0 0 • view
Campaigning in votes is not bullying. Suspending whole local parties so you can parachute in your cronies is. Hope that helps.
aug 11, 2025, 7:22 am • 0 0 • view
Forget Jim - He spreads easily disprovable lies and talks shite
aug 10, 2025, 7:12 am • 6 0 • view
You only look ridiculous now, saying this bollocks. That game is over. You've lost the narrative hopelessly.
aug 10, 2025, 10:40 am • 2 0 • view
Statmer has basically purged the party of anyone left of Pinochet mate
aug 10, 2025, 11:46 am • 8 0 • view
U.S. has been allowed to buy huge swathes of U.K. business. Av. UK. household spends more than £23K/Yr on U.S. Goods. ALL UK. Bus run on U.S. clouds incl H.M. Gov and Tax offices. Imagine if Trump ordered Microsoft to stop our access to the Cliud tomorrow? U.K. bankrupt overnight? (He won't!) But!
aug 10, 2025, 12:57 am • 0 0 • view
Labour is so NOT in the grip of far right. Not a Kier fan, but he is no Trump psychophant. Wrongly IMHO fawning to a fascist despot who has huge power over U.K. because. of successive Gov of all colours allowing U.S. to buy up and Control U.K. business.
aug 10, 2025, 12:29 am • 0 0 • view
And btw as a trans person I can tell you that Starmer is further to the right of any government we’ve had since John Major. His policy has been actively regressive towards trans rights and lands the U.K. in the same rights categories as Hungary and Russia. Deeply fucking bigoted little man he is.
aug 10, 2025, 1:26 am • 8 0 • view
I'm not saying I like it. But don't ditch it until there is a better alternative. I genuinely feel for you. But look at the terrifying things happening across the pond. Thiel and Co are a serious and genuine threat and actively financing far right over here.
aug 10, 2025, 1:47 am • 0 0 • view
"don't ditch the people actively trying to exterminate you until there's a better alternative" uh... no??? if they're actively trying to exterminate us - which they absolutely are - of course we're not going to support them anyway? that's fucking stupid!
aug 10, 2025, 6:55 am • 6 0 • view
you cannot reasonably expect any minority to vote for their own oppression!
aug 10, 2025, 6:55 am • 1 0 • view
No problem. Vote Green then. Or like me spoil your ballot paper. I respect you for that. Above all - stop Reform and Tories. Tories need a kicking everyday in the hope they kick out Badenoch and put in a responsible Centre Right leader and get enough moderate MPs to be credible opp after next GE.
aug 10, 2025, 8:04 am • 0 0 • view
The Tories, both Red and Blue, will only move further to the right. By the end of the year there will be a credible alternative to the Right. Will you support us? Or will you continue to do nothing as the country descends into fascism?
aug 10, 2025, 8:51 am • 2 0 • view
so your solution is a centre-left vs centre-right two-party system?
aug 10, 2025, 8:40 am • 0 0 • view
No. I want a radical overhaul of our whole system of Government especially how politicians are funded. Transparency about where their funds come from and very strict limits on size of donations. A forum set up with people from all walks of life represented to come up with a proposal.
aug 10, 2025, 8:59 am • 0 0 • view
Apparently we have the option to ditch it. Where do I sign!?
aug 11, 2025, 8:05 am • 2 0 • view
He’s not better, he’s actively much fucking worse to us than the Tories were and that is saying something. The Tories attacked our healthcare but they didn’t try to legislate us out of gender recognition! Do you not get what I mean when I said “deeply fucking bigoted”?
aug 10, 2025, 1:56 am • 3 0 • view
The U.K. as it stands has gender recognition equivalent to Russia and Hungary. He has implemented a new section 28 banning schools from mentioning trans people. WAKE THE FUCK UP. NO TRANS PERSON WILL VOTE FOR THIS MAN. Neither should anyone who has any respect for us!
aug 10, 2025, 1:56 am • 2 0 • view
I have 365 protestors who got mass arrested for protesting against genocide in Palestine who would beg to disagree with you. More if you count other protests. Starmer has locked up more protestors than the Tories did in 14 years of government. Face it, you voted for a fascist.
aug 10, 2025, 1:20 am • 2 0 • view
I wrote something rude on my ballot paper - a plague on all their houses. Palestinians AND Jews have a right to peace and freedom. Most Jews condemn this evil fascist Israeli Gov. as much as you and I. You will only defeat evil Reform from Centre ground - not from far left.
aug 10, 2025, 1:37 am • 0 0 • view
Starmer is NOT centre ground that’s what I’m saying! He’s the most far right thing we’ve had since thatcher. Corbyn is much closer to what we would consider centre ground in civilised times. Besides, if we vote labour and get reform policy anyway, why not vote for something else?
aug 10, 2025, 1:42 am • 3 0 • view
You are deluded. Most people I meet think Keir is a Communist! Wait until you have a Reform Party heavily financially backed by Peter Thiel & Co in power then you as a trans will seriously have something to fear - as the rest of us.
aug 10, 2025, 2:07 am • 0 0 • view
I ALREADY FEAR YOU DIPSHIT. I’m already SCARED of what life is like under Starmer. Do you not fucking understand that we are ALREADY afraid? ALREADY in danger?
aug 10, 2025, 2:23 am • 5 0 • view
I’m sorry that you’re worried that Farage will treat you like Starmer treats us. But if you think that I’m an acceptable sacrifice to spare you from that end then fuck you. You deserve whatever Farage does to the country. If you wouldn’t fight for me, you have no business asking me to fight for you.
aug 10, 2025, 2:23 am • 6 0 • view
Don't fight for me - fight for you and others like you. I'm fighting for you, but for peace, compassion, tolerance and empathy for ALL. I'm not supporting Starmer, I'm wanting to create a place where a better alternative will emerge. Right now, I ain't seeing one.
aug 10, 2025, 2:51 am • 0 0 • view
You have a good and honest cause - just fight it in a different way. Let's fight to change our political system so the money made by the wealthy is invested into UK and UK business, thus creating economic growth and money to build a fairer UK for all.
aug 10, 2025, 2:45 am • 1 0 • view
Forget about me. Let's talk about you. Do you not have more hope that a Labour P.M., will not be reined in by his centre left and left MPs to prevent him from persecuting you than a Reform Party heavily financed by extremist fascist U.S. oligarchs?
aug 10, 2025, 2:37 am • 0 0 • view
OTOH here is Starmer saying he admires the family values of Trump, a convicted rapist who very much looks like he's a paedophile. www.dumptheguardian.com/politics/202...
aug 10, 2025, 9:55 am • 1 0 • view
Notice how fucking giddy Starmer is every time he's around Trump? Notice how Labour's far-right policies have been a disaster for trans people, disabled people and migrants? Notice how the country is falling apart ? How many more decades are we required to endure?
aug 10, 2025, 7:08 am • 16 0 • view
Is there something happening in america then? I hadn’t noticed… good job you’re here to direct us to it though. What should we search for?
aug 10, 2025, 8:25 am • 0 0 • view
The country hates labour and Starmer. Every single demographic rejects them totally. They are delivering Farage and fascism through their nonsense, it’s a tale as old as time, the centrist party who appeases the right wing and gets eaten by the right wing. The Labour Party are delivering fascism.
aug 11, 2025, 8:55 am • 0 0 • view
Everyone keeps criticising. Please - someone come up with a realistic solution!!
aug 11, 2025, 8:58 am • 0 0 • view
Why would we not criticise when what we see before us is as bad as the 14 years of Tory chaos? You’ve just voted in another bunch of Tories. We will criticise and we will continue to criticise these incompetent charlatans.
aug 11, 2025, 8:59 am • 0 0 • view
Labour is a right wing party now. No one in their right mind is voting for that party again. If you vote Labour you’ll get Farage, Labour can’t win, wasted vote.
aug 11, 2025, 8:50 am • 1 0 • view
I will vote for the Candidate in my constituency most likely to defeat the Reform Candidate. A hung Parliament is better than a Reform one. As I am in Rishi Sunak's Constuency, I don't suppose it will make a blind bit of difference!!
aug 11, 2025, 8:53 am • 0 0 • view
A vote for Labour is a vote to push the disabled into poverty. Would you really be able to live with yourself? What makes you different to a Tory voter voting for them even after years of failure? It’s just the same. Have some ambition, want some change, instead of being content with failure.
aug 11, 2025, 9:14 am • 0 0 • view
We also need to make it more difficult for American Companies to buy up Great British Start-Ups and tkae their profits abroad!!
aug 11, 2025, 9:42 am • 0 0 • view
Yes, you are criticising the status quo, but what is your answer? If we don't grow the economy and create more money for the exchequer we will have no money for these very worthy causes. It is not just as easy as saying tax the rich. We need to incentivise them to invest in Britain and not abroad.
aug 11, 2025, 9:41 am • 0 0 • view
I am not content with failure. ButI believe it will not be resolved until we change the way our political system is funded. That won't happen overnight. I have suggested an idea. Different to what we have been doing for decades. What's yours?
aug 11, 2025, 9:18 am • 0 0 • view
Starmer literally did an ad read for Trump's golf course unprompted.
aug 10, 2025, 7:20 am • 7 0 • view
i see your parlament in flames, that seems like an improvement
aug 10, 2025, 6:55 am • 2 0 • view
You think Labour isn’t? Have you seen their flagship policies?
aug 11, 2025, 7:09 am • 0 0 • view
You do realise that in the UK voting is not mandatory and that you can just... not vote for any of them. Nobody is talking about voting for Farage we're just not voting for Labour... For some of us it's a vote for Christmas regardless so your lesser evil pitch no longer works.
aug 10, 2025, 6:57 am • 3 0 • view
Umm - I did point out that I have NEVER voted Labour. I wrote something rude on my ballot as I have since Johnson was elected Tory leader! A bigger statement about what I think of all of them, I would have thought?
aug 10, 2025, 7:40 am • 0 0 • view
No because it has been successfully argued that a spoiled ballot is valid *IF* the spoilage crosses in to one of the options; then it counts as a vote for that candidate. That and nobody is reading your words. That and your post was about available options but implied someone had to vote.
aug 11, 2025, 2:52 am • 0 0 • view
That's being pedantic. I made yhe choice to vote and defaced the whole ballot - no way could be interpreted as a vote for any one candidate.
aug 11, 2025, 4:54 am • 0 0 • view
Yes it is, that's also the level MP's have actually gone to in order to secure a vote. That's why I said put nothing in any of the boxes, someone drew a happy little penis in the box once and judge said it counts as a vote for the person. Deface away but make sure you don't accidently vote.
aug 11, 2025, 7:59 am • 0 0 • view
As I said - I did make damn sure I didn't vote.
aug 11, 2025, 8:03 am • 0 0 • view
So you agree, Labour are far right? Since they are boasting about passing Tory legislation.
aug 11, 2025, 6:55 am • 1 0 • view
Starmer out here boasting that Labour are the REAL conservatives; this is supposed to be progressive how, exactly?
aug 11, 2025, 6:58 am • 2 0 • view
If this is Labour, who needs far right parties?
aug 11, 2025, 6:59 am • 0 0 • view
Starmer has made it very clear how he feels about Labour members/voters who don't agree with his changes.
aug 11, 2025, 7:01 am • 0 0 • view
With friends like this...
aug 11, 2025, 7:03 am • 1 0 • view
Just spotted this from an actual government minister. If people think this government is progressive, we're more cooked than I thought.
aug 11, 2025, 7:07 am • 1 0 • view
Some dipshit replied going: is hating good now, yes, it is actually when Labour are vermin
aug 9, 2025, 3:59 pm • 65 0 • view
There seems to be a lot of centrists (being generous there) who need it explaining that hating racism, transphobia, genocide and poverty is actually ok. Imagine taking both sides on those issues. Such intelligent adult politics
aug 9, 2025, 4:25 pm • 73 4 • view
These people are genuinely 1000% the reason why everything is awful moreso even than the actual fascists
aug 10, 2025, 8:44 am • 12 0 • view
Never thought Labour would be anti trans and playing footsie with the US, again.
aug 10, 2025, 1:35 am • 2 0 • view
Yep.
aug 9, 2025, 11:33 pm • 0 0 • view
I may get around to it when I've finished hating the 14 years of Tory incompetence and corruption, and Farage and Reforms lies and gas lighting. But thank you for the suggestion.
aug 9, 2025, 4:41 pm • 4 1 • view
Oh I guess you must be a little slow eh
aug 9, 2025, 4:48 pm • 10 0 • view
I typed as slow as possible to give everyone the chance to understand it. It seems to have worked.
aug 9, 2025, 5:00 pm • 0 0 • view
It helped everyone understand you're a smug Red Team Good cunt
aug 9, 2025, 5:13 pm • 12 0 • view
Everyone has an opinion, whether right or wrong.
aug 9, 2025, 5:35 pm • 0 0 • view
And everyone has had your mum
aug 9, 2025, 6:07 pm • 1 0 • view
It must have been some time ago. She's been dead for a while. But thanks for that.
aug 9, 2025, 6:19 pm • 0 0 • view
You should feel proud, she made a lot of people happy
aug 9, 2025, 6:20 pm • 1 0 • view
I was proud of both my parents, as I'm sure you are of all yours.
aug 9, 2025, 6:22 pm • 0 0 • view
Think they got rid of gas lighting a while ago
aug 9, 2025, 4:48 pm • 14 0 • view
Yes they did, but gaslighting came up underlined in red so I changed it. I dislike those red lines.
aug 9, 2025, 5:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Are those the only red lines you dislike?
aug 9, 2025, 5:04 pm • 3 0 • view
Probably not. I don't like to rule anything out.
aug 9, 2025, 5:20 pm • 0 0 • view
No, they still use it on most streets. You must be mistaken.
aug 9, 2025, 4:51 pm • 6 0 • view
Round here we use oil lamps and we like it
aug 9, 2025, 4:52 pm • 3 0 • view
If you like it, don't change it.
aug 9, 2025, 5:13 pm • 0 0 • view
We still have a knocker upper.
aug 9, 2025, 4:58 pm • 4 0 • view
Don't let him near your daughter.
aug 9, 2025, 5:18 pm • 0 0 • view
What an odd comment to make about a stranger’s child.
aug 9, 2025, 5:20 pm • 2 0 • view
aug 9, 2025, 5:03 pm • 2 0 • view
Gaslighting comes up underlined in red when I type it, so I changed it. I dislike the red underlining. Sorry if I confused you.
aug 9, 2025, 5:11 pm • 0 0 • view
the red underlining is there to tell you that your dictionary is incomplete
aug 9, 2025, 5:19 pm • 3 0 • view
bsky.app/profile/dang...
aug 9, 2025, 5:07 pm • 3 0 • view
I can hate three things at once.
aug 9, 2025, 4:49 pm • 16 0 • view
That's actually quite sad.
aug 9, 2025, 5:06 pm • 0 0 • view
easy for you to say, seeing as you're a middle class cunt.
aug 9, 2025, 5:16 pm • 6 0 • view
If you only knew.
aug 9, 2025, 5:37 pm • 0 0 • view
You are quite sad
aug 9, 2025, 5:07 pm • 11 0 • view
I don't know. I have my moments.
aug 9, 2025, 5:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Next General Election will be the end of Labour. Whoever takes over, there needs to be an enquiry into how Foreign Influence has degraded UK democracy and influenced policy detrimental to its citizens.
aug 9, 2025, 8:58 pm • 0 0 • view
Why worry about Tory corruption when we have labour malice?
aug 9, 2025, 10:34 pm • 0 0 • view
lol as if austerity was more than a mild inconvenience for you.
aug 9, 2025, 4:50 pm • 11 0 • view
I think it was more than a mild inconvenience for a lot of people.
aug 9, 2025, 5:08 pm • 0 0 • view
If you hated those things for rational, ideological reasons, you can only reasonably also hate this Labour government for the same reasons
aug 9, 2025, 5:29 pm • 2 0 • view
You should try living in the present, it'd do you some good and stop you coming across like a daft twat.
aug 9, 2025, 4:49 pm • 38 0 • view
The present? Where everyone is so polite, and insults are used sparingly.
aug 9, 2025, 5:04 pm • 1 0 • view
You can tolerate genocide and bigotry but you draw the line at incivility? Do you realise this makes you a terrible person?
aug 9, 2025, 5:59 pm • 4 0 • view
I can't remember saying I tolerated genocide and bigotry. Are you on the right thread?
aug 9, 2025, 6:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh no, does swearing offend you, POOR YOU
aug 9, 2025, 5:05 pm • 24 0 • view
Not really, but I do try to moderate mine. It's just the way I was brought up. Sorry.
aug 9, 2025, 5:23 pm • 1 0 • view
I was brought up to swear at the bastards who fuck over poor, disabled & vulnerable people, like Labour are. But that's just me.
aug 11, 2025, 1:50 pm • 0 0 • view
Is cutting benefits for the disabled polite?
aug 9, 2025, 5:09 pm • 7 0 • view
You tell me.
aug 9, 2025, 5:30 pm • 0 0 • view
No, cunt.
aug 9, 2025, 8:28 pm • 2 0 • view
How "nice" to be concerned with politeness, when people are living in fear of government sanctioned violence and hate.
aug 9, 2025, 5:48 pm • 5 0 • view
We must all start somewhere.
aug 9, 2025, 6:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Red team good, blue team bad, I am very smort.
aug 10, 2025, 7:21 am • 0 0 • view
keir starmer is worse.
aug 9, 2025, 4:48 pm • 19 0 • view
Of course he is.
aug 9, 2025, 5:01 pm • 0 0 • view
I find it staggering that you can take this condescending tone with a person who is having all their human rights taken away by Starmer. The tories didn't do that, but starmer will, because he is demonstrably worse.
aug 9, 2025, 5:08 pm • 23 0 • view
Do explain.
aug 9, 2025, 5:25 pm • 0 0 • view
I mean, maybe you think vulnerable minorities should be thrilled about having all their human rights taken away. But again, I'd say the burden of an explanation is not on me in that scenario.
aug 9, 2025, 5:34 pm • 4 0 • view
No one should lose their human rights. And you have no obligation to explain to me what is being done to take the human rights away from these people.
aug 9, 2025, 6:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Just did
aug 9, 2025, 5:32 pm • 9 0 • view
Trans folks, for one thing. Labour have done nothing but attack us and most lgbt people would literally rather die than vote starmer again. Fuck you for defending him. Boris Johnson himself wasn’t this malicious towards us.
aug 9, 2025, 10:37 pm • 5 0 • view
Who lost their human rights, and when did this legislation get through parliament?
aug 9, 2025, 6:35 pm • 1 0 • view
Jesus, you're fucking dense.
aug 9, 2025, 5:34 pm • 2 0 • view
Oh fuck you, you utter dickhead. This is just you saying you're fine with racism, transphobia, poverty and genocide as long as it has a red badge not a blue one.
aug 9, 2025, 5:21 pm • 4 0 • view
Two options here, you're either engagement farming, or are incapable of understanding linear time.
aug 9, 2025, 5:26 pm • 1 0 • view
Let us know when you're ready to give a shit about what's going on right now because politics tends to follow the usual rules of time and space
aug 9, 2025, 5:00 pm • 8 0 • view
Which are?
aug 9, 2025, 5:18 pm • 0 0 • view
I prefer the one that pretends to be from Calcton. Oi Oi!
aug 9, 2025, 5:48 pm • 1 0 • view
ah sorry I just assumed everyone was like me and had no upper limit to the number of awful things they are capable of hating at once
aug 9, 2025, 5:16 pm • 3 0 • view
Some people are just blessed.
aug 9, 2025, 5:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Plus you despise immigrants and asylum seekers so the Labour government suits you
aug 9, 2025, 4:50 pm • 13 0 • view
I can't find the sentence where I said that. I hope it's not true.
aug 9, 2025, 5:07 pm • 0 0 • view
You implied it by tacitly approving of Labour’s anti immigrant stance. It’s the majesty of the English language, you don’t need to explicitly say something to actually say something
aug 9, 2025, 5:14 pm • 8 0 • view
Hating is never good. It is, however, the correct response to this government.
aug 12, 2025, 2:25 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah No more to it tbh
aug 9, 2025, 3:47 pm • 4 0 • view
They put people through hell with their policies and expect there to be no consequences! They expect us to be nice to them while they try, every chance they get, to make us suffer! Of course we should hate them! We should hate them more than ever before because they are worse now than ever before!
aug 9, 2025, 8:15 pm • 4 0 • view
Like, they’ve just taken away all hope. That makes me hate them more than the Tories right now
aug 9, 2025, 6:31 pm • 41 0 • view
This is where the betrayal goes further than what came before. Because there was an implicit hope that things would be better, simply by default, by removing the corrupt Tories. And yet despite the bar being so appallingly low, Labour have found a way to take cruelty to a whole new level.
aug 9, 2025, 7:09 pm • 25 1 • view
It'd be almost tolerable if people just abandoned labour / the democrats / etc en masse but so many are so committed to riding that shit into the mountainside making it almost impossible to get anyone in who would actually push things in the right direction on any sort of a reasonable timescale
aug 10, 2025, 9:02 am • 7 0 • view
The political system itself plays a pivotal role in that respect. FPTP ensures continuity and locks out any potential of transformative change. The electorate becomes disillusioned, turn out rates continue to plummet and that continues to work in favour of the main political parties.
aug 10, 2025, 9:09 am • 7 0 • view
Of course but pointing to that and throwing our hands up is like pointing to money in politics — the people in a position to fix it are specifically disinterested in doing so and wouldn’t If we insist on predicating doing anything on fixing that then we’re just proper fucked.
aug 10, 2025, 10:00 am • 4 0 • view
It would be part of several things that need to happen in attempts to arrest the continued decline. Even if in the unlikely event of a progressive party forming a gov’t, they’d still be subject to the same forces driving policy right now.
aug 10, 2025, 10:12 am • 0 0 • view
If that and other things 「 need to happen 」 then you’re essentially declaring defeat without even trying. Fuck that.
aug 10, 2025, 10:55 am • 2 0 • view
Not at all, nothing is impossible. But at the same time you have to accept reality and the mountain to climb as things are now. History dictates that the efforts of the right will implode as it’s driven by ego’s.
aug 10, 2025, 12:17 pm • 0 0 • view
History absolutely does not dictate that it will implode spontaneously - it took so much work and so many lives to cause that to happen Nobody said anything was easy.
aug 10, 2025, 2:50 pm • 0 0 • view
Let me apologise, I should have been more specific stating recent history. And of course, even then right wing populism doesn’t just implode of it’s own accord, it does so under the scrutiny applied by those fighting it. Even from a decade ago, these are different times with complex challenges.
aug 10, 2025, 3:16 pm • 0 0 • view
Hear, hear. They are a stain on the country’s social wellbeing
aug 10, 2025, 6:48 am • 0 0 • view
Anyone who doesn't hate them is a Labour cultist. They should ware MLGA hats.
aug 10, 2025, 7:00 am • 1 0 • view
Terrified too though that Farage will take over.
aug 12, 2025, 9:43 am • 0 0 • view
Over the pond in America, Jacobin warned us a couple of years ago, a year before the election. jacobin.com/2023/06/labo...
aug 13, 2025, 5:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Former human rights lawyer, how far can one person fall.
aug 9, 2025, 2:25 pm • 8 0 • view
Never says if he was on the side of human rights or against though…
aug 10, 2025, 10:09 am • 1 0 • view
Oh no, he was always a sadistic little shit.
aug 9, 2025, 6:16 pm • 17 0 • view
An AMBITIOUS former human rights lawyer. Human rights as a means to an end; the end being power. It's a psychic disability, I swear. The desire for power is a sickness.
aug 9, 2025, 2:38 pm • 13 0 • view
Not to equate disability with sickness, mind you.
aug 9, 2025, 2:39 pm • 1 0 • view
Without a doubt he would do and say anything for power, he proved that when he ran as leader of the Labour party but the media didn't care because they knew it meant the end of any chance of an attempt at a more fairer country.
aug 9, 2025, 2:45 pm • 3 1 • view
And he has successfully narrowed the bandwidth of mainstream political thought to a rearranging of neoliberal deckchairs. They got their man. A coup really.
aug 9, 2025, 2:58 pm • 3 1 • view
Yep
aug 9, 2025, 3:01 pm • 1 0 • view
I feel energised by my daily visceral hate
aug 9, 2025, 2:39 pm • 30 0 • view
Same
aug 9, 2025, 3:31 pm • 8 0 • view
Solidarity with that my friend, hating bigoted bastards is life affirming.
aug 10, 2025, 8:13 am • 8 0 • view
That's not very tolerant. Spinelessness is a job hazard of being a career politician. How can you use a disability they've gained from "trying to do they can for [themselves] the country and their [owners] constituents". Satire aside, Morgan McSweeney deserves to be called out by name too.
aug 9, 2025, 6:53 pm • 1 0 • view
Their policies and actions have shown a complete disregard for real change, making opposition to this Labour government and its leadership entirely justified.
aug 11, 2025, 4:19 am • 2 0 • view