It's never a positive in a discussion when people leap straight to personal (and uninformed) insults.
It's never a positive in a discussion when people leap straight to personal (and uninformed) insults.
It’s less of an insult and more of an observation. If you didn’t want to come across as uneducated, you should have replied in a more informed manner, lad,
"Lad"?!!!!!
Did I stutter?
Maybe he's worried you're paying him uninformed compliments
He rudely interjected into a conversation he wasn’t involved wit,h to display a child-like understanding of the subject matter. If he was expecting anything other than condescension as a result, he has too high an opinion of himself, lol.
Oh yeah, he's a clown with zero self awareness.
I'd have gone with 'cunt', personally.
It’s funny to me that dickheads like him think swear words are worse than racism (by funny, I mean tragically funny).
And I find it deeply offensive when people accuse me of racism.
You think me calling you racist is worse than you supporting racists?
You support a racist party, and moan when people criticise a guy that brags about deporting immigrants and who makes speeches that sound like something from Enoch Powell.
Oh and several of their ministers think that racist protesters "have legitimate concerns that should be listened to". But non-violent peace protestors... Nope, they belong in jail.
Again, the treatment of pro-Palestinian activists is a terrible misjudgement. We must stop agreeing :-)
I'm not going to vote for him, you are. My morals have actual value.
Also, it's not a misjudgement it's a very calculated choice.
You're right: I'd vote for him again despite serious reservations in some areas if it keeps the Tories and Reform out. That's an entirely moral approach.
You're right: his rhetoric on immigration is one of the areas I can't stand. At last we've found something we agree on!
And yet, you're still supporting his government, so in addition to talking over trans people, racism is evidently not a red line for you.
I'm arguing that for all their faults, they're better than what came before or what might follow.
You're focusing more on people criticising Starmer than the harm his policies are doing. People with actual morals don't tend to value the reputation of a politician more than the welfare of the people he victimises.
Well stop defending racists then
I mean come on, this is fairly basic stuff
Don’t support racist politicians and then they might not accuse you of being racist
What on earth are you talking about?
You’re batting for Starmer lad, please try and follow the conversation.
It's quite hard to do with the different directions people are veering off with their insults! But hey, I can cope with robust debate. I just wish people didn't get so abusive on here - that's why I moved from Twitter!
Good God. If you can't even follow the basic flow of a conversation, you really shouldn't be on here. We have a deeply, DEEPLY racist Government, and you keep defending them.
red tie therefore even though they’re doing everything Farage would be doing they are NOT RACIST
It’s sensible grown up politics!
Every time
It's also never positive in a discussion when some windbag does a "what about the other guy" part because they can't actually address the point. Crap in, crap out.
Guy who insults reform people gets upset with people criticising him for supporting a party that mimicks reform. Hypocrit.
you're not here in good faith, you got the response you deserve. if you actually gave a shit about more than just your own personal circumstances you'd attempted to actually have a discussion, which you didn't. You came here as an old, white, middle class man, to patronise a young woman.
Charming. Have a nice evening.
I'm chronically ill and disabled, the government are doing everything in their power to take away my access to the community and my autonomy. I won't be having a nice evening. You patronising cunt.
not interested in having discussions with starmer supporters. he’s the worst pm of my life and an absolutely vile bigot.
I like that the first reply he did was pretty insulting, then got upset when ppl were dismissive and at times, insulting back.
Classic case of "I'm a well off white guy, and it would be just horrible for Reform to treat me the way Labour are treating you".
Pretty much.
Have a couple of informed ones: I feel like I just read a Farrow & Ball colour chart. Do you announce you'll be doing wry observations in advance down the pub? Or just on the internet?
Who said it was a discussion?
implying people want Farage to win is deeply insulting, doubly so because you know it isn't true