Man, y'all will do anything to avoid admitting that DNC leadership keeps pushing unpopular candidates.

Didn't Clinton win the primary vote?

That might mean something if it was based on direct votes rather than a delegate system.

You mean the Democratic National committee 's convention primary? The same party that spent the entire time in the South, promoting him as a socialist? They deliberately cut his legs out from underneath him in order to put Clinton in after the GOP spent 20 years manufacturing hate against her.

No, the one THE PEOPLE voted for who they wanted to represent the party. You need to get over it and respect the will of the voters.

THE PEOPLE voted for delegates who did whatever they wanted.

No, the delegates voted for who we the people voted. Just stop

Did they? Or did they follow orders and choose who the higher up leadership wanted. Don't give me orders.

Do we really need to relitigate 2016 all over again? There is evidence DNC and MSM played with the money and background politics to push Clinton. So yeah, "the people" voted for Clinton, after being told by party brass and media to do so because only she could win, except she didn't. They lied.

Yeah I'm sure Russia had nothing to do with her losing, nor the outdated electoral college. Despite all that, she still got over 2.8 million more votes than Trump, and here you are claiming she was unpopular 🤡 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian...

I didn't say she was unpopular. I said she was propped up by party brass and media (she was) and that she lost (she did). And she lost in part, yes PART, because Trump became a populist. If Bernie was chosen, Trump's faux populism would not have worked.

Trump would have smoked Bernie.

Nah. Trump was scared of Bernie. He refused to debate him several times. He knew Bernie would have steamrolled him and his arguments and not let him wander babbling about everything except the topic.

Doesn't matter. Trump would have pulled all the conservatives, independents, libertarians, and probably a good chunk of moderates at that time who felt Bernie was too radical and didn't yet know just how bad Trump really was going to be. He would have smoked Bernie.

What, the DNC promoted the actual Dem over the Independent cosplaying as a Dem? Imagine!

That independent causes with Dems more than real Dems (Manchin and Senema) for decades. But he ran as a real Dem, so DNC was supposed to stay neutral. Imagine!

*caucuses

Whole different subject...rethuglikkklans are IN office now... save the candidate shit for the next election.

There isn't going to be any more real elections.

How so? Hillary won the popular vote by 2.8 million votes. She was very popular.

We seriously need to break this two party system in the US. There should be at least three parties, maybe more, but we need a lot of changes to properly support this. Not sure how we deal with the Speaker and Senate Majority leader when there is no majority. - Progressives - Centrists - MAGA

3 or 4 parties is the way to go

Perhaps like parliament in other systems. I think this would allow more conservatives to vote for Centrists if they weren't tied to the democratic party and then real progressives can have a chance without the DNC thumb. Parties can coalesce differently depending on the issue.

That is why I support a complete restructure of our government with help from our allies.

I’ve often dreamed of a four-party system: A progressive party for the left, Democrats are only the center-left, a new Tory party as the center-right and Republicans are only the far right

And nationwide ranked-choice top two primaries for the presidency, and a national popular vote.

Ranked choice would make such a huge difference.

Such is why AfD in Germany seems unlikely to be in the next government, there were other choices for populists and the center-right

They lost.

As did Bush in 2000 and 2004, but democrats always concede.