“if we just throw the right people under the bus”

A favored Dem strategy since the Clinton administration.

“First they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up, and I won”

First the came for everyone they didnt like And i didnt speak up because aligning myself to their views will surely get me votes in the next election

feeling like this post broke containment somehow cause I’m getting some replies that EPICALLY miss the point

the Bluesky experience

If you won, you can make the Jews and everyone else safe, the fascists are out of power

I feel like it’s important to mention that the actual quote says that they first came for communists and trade unionists, which is currently happening and these people are absolutely salivating over.

There are multiple versions of the quote, though I never see the version including disabled people quoted anywhere (the Holocaust Encyclopedia says it exists, though)

Wasn’t it initially written in private correspondence? Holocaust Memorial Day Trust calls it a poem, but they do mention there are multiple verisons

I'm not sure about initially, but there was a series of speeches

Actually, no.

These folks never get tired of creating straw Democrats to accuse of crimes against lefties.

"First they came for the Jews, but they were anti-Zionists Jews so I liked that."

Even better, "they came for the Jews and I said, 'here's one! Hiding in this attic!'"

ah careful, ol Smith will play the jewish ancestor card to say it's different this time

Ehh, then you get to play the "Yes it is, because this time you're on the side of the Nazis" reverse card

It's long past time we accept that the Big Three monotheistic religions are just ideologies of hate

Wrapped up in a "peace" narrative.

I did speak up, and I lost. How does that help the Jews?

"Just get the right combo of people to officially hate, bro, it's a guaranteed win, bro, I swear" - Bluesky Political Punditry LLC

Look, we don’t really go to “those parts of town” anyway.

You don't throw them under the bus. You simply don't make them the face of the party. Politics is about getting elected, not losing with honor. You people really don't get it. Putting up a losing lesbian or black woman for president does not protect lesbians or black women. See, e.g., Trump.

Wrong, cuz Dems are never going to out hate monger the Republicans and Libertarians. Dems need to reject the false reality Republicans and Libertarians make up and press people about who they want to kill off while they destroy the country. While presenting their own inclusive vision that

Provides equity and equality for everyone. Americans (non-Black) have already proved they’ll pull the lever every time for the most hateful, even at their own peril. We have to counter that.

Which "losing lesbian" are you referring to? Some hypothetical one? WTAF are you talking about? For the GOP, putting up a demented sociopath (which doesn't protect anyone) hoodwinked everyone-your country just picked him A SECOND TIME You people have lost the plot, truly

“you people”? Yikes.

gotcha: only straight white (christian, i'm assuming) men should be democratic candidates

How about standing for a set of values- regardless of the political headwinds- that ppl can rely on you to defend? Or supporting the best candidates with experience and perspective regardless of sexual orientation or race? The very fact that “DEI” exists…

…is due to a lack of diversity, equity and inclusion for all in our communities. These issues don’t arise in a vacuum. With Dems falling into the R trap of viewing this as some magic bingo card to winning a temporary game, they will keep losing messaging and elections…

Do you think Kamala Harris, the VPOTUS at the time, one heartbeat from the Presidency, was the face of the party last year after the President chose to stop his campaign because of her race and gender? I don't think you've thought this through.

If anything it was the ancient white man being the face of the party for too long that sank Harris's chances

Whaddaya mean "you people"?

What would a non-losing-lesbian or non-losing-black woman look like?🤔

Dems aren't really placing minorities as the face of their party. Their approach to DEI, trans rights, and immigration is wimpy at best. Republicans put these labels on Dems, and Dems don't even deserve them. I wish Dems were as "extreme" as the right says they are.

Oh, ok But like not in a racist or sexist way

found the Biden 2008 fan "Don't make them the face of the party." holy hell

For people with any moral sense at all, values aren’t something you just abandon because of polling

I disagree. I think that people who purport to hold the moral high ground which results in thousands suffering and dying are not moral at all.

You seem to lack an understanding of basic moral development When people have principles, they don't "purport" to hold them They literally HOLD THEM Just as the right literally believes abortion is murder & that black people are inferior, the left believes minorities are equal members of society

So what about the people who make pragmatic concessions when historical evidence demonstrates pretty clearly that the concessions will win them nothing?

Are there not thousands of women and people of color?🤔 You should take a long long moment and reflect You won't. But you very much should.

A lot more than thousands. Millions. And none of them will be helped by the current administration. I suggest we focus on avoiding similar administrations in the future, if we get the chance.

Who the fuck is “you people?” 🤨

Avoiding support for black women or lesbian candidates on the basis of this is just bigotry. There are trans women and lesbian politicians in state legislatures and in Congress right now, some of whom have successfully been re-elected.

a Black man won the presidency in 2008. Many people couldn't believe it could happen, until it did. Don't choose candidates just on identity, but don't *not* choose them because of identity.

That’s all I’m saying, yeah! Republicans shaped the dumbass identity politics discourse, AND YET plenty of people who are not white Christian males have won races in the interim.

“If we placate our abusive husband and just get his dinner cooked faster, maybe he’ll stop hitting us”

Also really need to be more open-minded about Nazi salutes, and that’s it

No, you see, we just have to be polite fascists, then all the reasonable people will pick us over the explicit fascists and anyone who doesn't like fascism still has to vote for us because at least we're the polite ones.

So become the All Time Pick Me

"what if civil rights are bad?"

All Dems gotta do is say bussing instead of something something something.

"Why can't dems just be regressive conservatives???"

At least we can still keep equit- oh hang on, there’s a call on line 2

"If you'll just stop doing everything that helps people, you'll be okay with us."

We need to move left and hope it helps people re-engage politics rather than trying to steal the Rights voters. More people didn't vote than did, go after them to vote.

I'm mad I see so many articles talking about Trump voters but nobody is looking at nonvoters at all. Converting a third party voter into a Dem voter would be easy if they were interested in doing so at all.

The thing is, why would I vote Diet Republican if I can just vote Republican?

The center of the party has been begging for this for decades, except it was originally kicking all us Negroes to the curb rather than support us in our fight. Just more groups included in their plea now.

Noah is a ghoul. him bill Maher, Matty and shitheads want to rerun the campaign Harris did. she had the fucking Cheney's parading around. I did my MBA at Berkeley they aren't woke classmates work for trash companies. absolute idiocy from the pundits

one of my favorite classes there was on equity fluent leadership and it wasn't even super woke. like one of my classmates there is a senior leader at Amazon not a fucking radical. destroying colleges for complete dipshittery

Weird how no one ever recommends throwing themselves under the bus. It’s always somebody else who needs to go.

Oh, no, they do that all the time (MAGA women voting in favor of losing their rights. The fact there are trans repubs /at all/. Etc.) They assume that exceptions will be carved out for /them/, or, some of them, that they can buy their way around it.

With this grifter-in-grief, the latter are probably right, until they aren't.

The real trouble is they /think/ they are throwing somebody else under the bus, and not paying attention to the rope cinching tighter around their own ankles as the slack plays out.

You’re absolutely right, but they don’t do it consciously. They don’t say, “You know what, I and people like me need to go.”

The tent is too big.

The 'using DEI as a dog whistle' thing, when DEI also applies to women, veterans, people with disabilities, and more, says right up front that this is a garbage argument, a 'well guys we tried, they just won't listen to reason'. 😬

DEI, as it is practiced today in white-collar workplaces, has had minimal positive impact and led to a great deal of resentment. DEI programs need to be improved, if not overhauled.

Really shows that this is just a game to them. The lives of diverse working class and poor people are just "issue cards" to be played or discarded as they bargain society out of it's rights and dreams.

It is just like team sports to these weirdos. The only ideology they follow is "my team wins", no care for what ideology or policies that team has. It's just fandom.

"Be the change you think others want to see in the world" They're so bold 🙄 You don't need to lead others to what is popular, that will happen on its own. Righteous leadership is convincing people to support what is right even when they don't want to.

As near as I can tell most democrats think it's a football game or something and the point is 'winning' not being human. Whatever you need to do to make that happen is acceptable

"In the game of patriarchy, women are not the opposing team; they are the ball" just repeat for whichever minority group the Dems decide to cede on

They play games with social wars and rights to keep us busy trying to protect those when we can be fighting for our rights AND a more fair economic system.

ITS THE FUCKING ECONOMY! People are in debt up to their eyeballs, they are sick, little vacation time, education system is struggling, few job protections, inadequate retirement security, poor safety net. The greed of the rich needs to stop, but they make excuses.

All his above points are fine.

You aren't that smart are you?? No critical thinking skills whatsoever.

Trust me Black people have known for YEARS that some Dems and a LOT of leftists resent how much political power Black people have in the Democrat party.

I’m black lol, I don’t have to trust you! I am fully aware

Again, that's not what it actually said (although given the right's abuse of DEI as a phrase, I can't entirely blame you for making that mistake.)