Oh wauw. I thought this was about the victims of genocide or maybe about, I dunno, at least the riders... But it's apparently about NOBODY but you and your needs to be complimented for your views. Brilliant. Somebody may give you that, but it's not gonna be me.
I don't need any compliments. I just wanted to explain by examples how I care about victims. But that I don't see this violence as something that will improve something for them. I mean this in a respectful conversation, so please don't take it wrong or personal. Just discussing today's events
Today’s events are a good thing. Genocide should be protested against and resisted, actually.
I agree that genocides or any other human rights violations are unacceptable. But it's also unacceptable to harm other innocent people. Can we agree on both things? Can we protest in peaceful ways?
What exactly did you see that explicitly harmed innocent tpeople? There's a big diference between blocking a road 10km before the riders pass through it and jumping and tackling down riders going at 50km/h. With the exception of a couple of incidents, the protests have been peaceful.
Riders have hit the ground in the past weeks. They even have cut down a tree to make riders crash. Why taking risks about innocent people's life & health? Why not staying on the side? Why not protest in front of parliaments or the UN where decision makers actually are?
Because if they would have done that, you would have not seen that protest. Or discussed it now.
"Why do air traffic controlers go on strike at the peak of holiday season?"
exactly, or why does extinction rebellion block a main road and not a rural road in Wales
why did TFL tube drivers strike when all the schools are definitely back and therefore any parents are less likely to be having time off...
I have noticed the Palestinian flags on the side before but never wrote a bad word about it. I also support climate activists, but not when they use violence. I'm anti-violence. I think that's an acceptable position to have.
It's the "violent" side I still cannot see. If I spend an extra hour waiting for the bus because the bus drivers went on strike it surely pisses me off then, but if they're protesting for fair salaries my grievance is small compared to their fight. Let's not mix "disruptive" with "violent".
They don't cancel stages because they are afraid that protestors would receive attention for a good cause. They are cancelling stages because riders are not safe anymore. That's a difference. I support all protests that support good causes, but not till the point where they bring people in danger
The incident with Romo was due to both the protester and the policeman crossing the road, but that I consider to be on the "couple of incidents" category. How far away were the cyclists from the tree they cut down? Were they in any immidiate danger?
Protests ought to be disruptive. Standing alongside the road shows support, but forcing the organization to halt a race is a much stronger message.
The only accident was forced by a policeman, stop liying. Sorry if a genocide disrupts your sport competition.
People have. Tv cameras tend not to both reporting on that. There’s a protest in London next week on a different issue right at Parliament square, and there’s a non-zero chance news companies cover it. The Vuelta has great tv coverage — it gets eyes on the protest.
Everyone already knows about the conflict and starvation in Gaza, so you don't have to be worried about that anymore. People should pressure politicians a bit more where they actually are, because that's the problem : They don't take enough measures to stop this war
I’d say blocking a sporting event in a country’s capital is a way to pressure the government.
You hurted more innocent people today than politicians. Stay on side lines of the road or protest against people directly in front of their work place. This made no sense. The stage was cancelled but the war in Gaza isn't now. This didn't make any positive change.
They did protest against people in their workplace. The Premier Tech team is Sylvan Adams’s proud propaganda machine— he’s literally said that’s what the team is for. So they did exactly what you asked, case closed.
Don’t you think peaceful means were tried first?! Sometimes violence is a genesis for change that peaceful protest doesn’t generate - for example the suffragette movement in the UK
I don't think that cyclists should hit the ground to make a statement about Gaza. They are not responsible for what happens in Gaza. Ghandi liberated his country by the most powerful empire at the time without using violence, but by leading by example.