Reminder that Putin has never said he wants a trilateral meeting, had never said he would respect Ukrainian sovereignty, and has never said he wants to end the war. Not to be a downer, but the discussion of security guarantees is premature.
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Trump will commit to anything that takes no effort on his part and costs him no money. Those conditions will allow him to forget any commitment that he made. Don’t remind him either. He’ll deny that he made it and legitimately. He’s dementing after all.
aug 19, 2025, 1:00 pm • 2 0 • view
You are absolutely right. This is just #PresidentPedochet caping for his puppet master Putin.
aug 19, 2025, 10:31 am • 1 0 • view
The only "security guarantees" Putin has in mind are the ones he would offer to a Lukachenko-style Ukrainian dictator against the Ukrainian people....
aug 19, 2025, 8:56 am • 3 0 • view
Premature and irrelevant because it's going to take boots on the ground to force him to end it
aug 19, 2025, 10:26 am • 2 0 • view
Any distraction from the kid fucker In chief
aug 19, 2025, 6:29 pm • 0 0 • view
Or as this anthem says; "We shall write a new beginning, free of hatred's heavy chain. " ; If that is not an Ode to Joy; nothing we do will be ;) @kajakallas.bsky.social @marossefcovic.bsky.social @vonderleyen.ec.europa.eu @mark-carney.bsky.social www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm1J...
aug 19, 2025, 11:13 am • 1 0 • view
Zelensky said for months he is ready for one. As European Im ready for the alliance to end; we may not be ready to pickup on all defence fronts; but we're certainly not ready to do the job of US Congress and Senate only bc they fail to keep their potus on a damn leash www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm1J...
aug 19, 2025, 11:05 am • 8 2 • view
The problem here in America begins with Trump obviously but he is propped up by a system that cuts off the minority from any power or leverage. The Founders never envisioned the Executive, Judicial, and Legislative branches all crumbling at one moment. It has happened. Full tilt collapse.
aug 19, 2025, 11:25 am • 5 0 • view
You just don't get it do you? The world is bigger than the almighty USA. Even in a post on Ukraine you manage to make it about YOU. Do me a favor and get your head out of your own ass. It's not our job nor our intention to keep cleaningup your mess. We have our own shitt to deal with here.
aug 19, 2025, 12:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes I was raised in Europe. Thanks for the update.
aug 19, 2025, 12:08 pm • 0 0 • view
And don't get me wrong. I Feel bad for US workers. But when has US felt bad for the EU? You could not even manage the decency to back us on MH17; not when there is something to gain for the USA. I held back for years; even now YOU make this about YOU. Im done. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm1J...
aug 19, 2025, 11:52 am • 6 0 • view
I was just replying to your post by highlighting default in the American political system. I lived & worked in Europe for a decade & have family plus many friends living there. I visit regularly- am considering moving back. Sorry you’re so angry. We know how bad trump is here. But there’s more.
aug 19, 2025, 12:07 pm • 1 0 • view
Jeah I get that. But that still doesn't change the fact that we don't have time to act as your checks and balances as EU. It's not our mess; that's your mess and your govt is making us jump through damn hoops while layingout red carpet for Putin;equal players my ass www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm1J...
aug 19, 2025, 11:39 am • 0 0 • view
Besides that, no guarantee from Trump is worth the paper it's printed on.
aug 19, 2025, 12:22 pm • 11 0 • view
And Putin has never respected ANY "security guarantees" in the past.
aug 19, 2025, 12:03 pm • 17 1 • view
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aug 20, 2025, 5:25 am • 0 0 • view
Hes already broken several security guarantees with Ukraine. He will break these too if they happen.
aug 19, 2025, 11:09 am • 1 0 • view
Another Putin/Trump delay, distraction.
aug 19, 2025, 11:01 am • 1 0 • view
All because the guy who calls himself the commander in chief is a full of shit con man.
aug 19, 2025, 11:34 am • 9 1 • view
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aug 20, 2025, 5:26 am • 0 0 • view
Read Timothy Snyder’s take on this war and Putin. He’s trying to retake land he views as part of mother Russia. IMO only his death will stop him. He’s an oligarch not a president of a representative democracy. To think otherwise is silly.
aug 19, 2025, 4:28 pm • 1 0 • view
We can not trust a word out of POS (formerly POTUS) Vonshitznpants. Ukraine just needs to win out right, and take Russia. 🚬😎
aug 19, 2025, 4:42 pm • 0 0 • view
And tRump is a moron.
aug 19, 2025, 11:46 am • 2 0 • view
I think it’s completely off the rails. When did an invader want a peaceful resolution to his invasion, ever? Right.
aug 19, 2025, 3:25 pm • 0 0 • view
And Trumps' participation is presumptuous, as well. Not to mention, suspect. Follow the money, favors, alliances and allegiances discover his REAL motivation, but for certain it doesn't involve the lives of anyone, but his own.
aug 19, 2025, 1:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Like the security guarantees Ukraine got after it handed back the nukes it inherited from the USSR.
aug 19, 2025, 11:37 am • 8 0 • view
The discussion of security guarantees is futile. Putin has never, and will never, honor any deal with anybody. He is the poster boy for "non-trustworthy person". His dream and ultimate goal is USSR version 2. With him as a modern emperor! The ONLY way to defeat him, is whooping his ass in Ukraine!!!
aug 19, 2025, 10:10 am • 4 0 • view
Not just premature, pointless at present. Ukraine got security guarantees from Russia, USA and UK in 1994 when they gave up their nukes, which weren't honoured. Putin also broke numerous ceasefire deals after his invasion in 2014. Ukraine obviously would be foolish to trust any of these promises.
aug 19, 2025, 10:27 am • 35 6 • view
Yes. If Trump wants a peace prize he needs to come up with a plan that will avoid more aggression. Serious consequences for breaking the agreement that Putin takes seriously. Not going to happen.
aug 19, 2025, 11:08 pm • 1 0 • view
Ukraine and Zelenskyy are not foolish. They see clearly Putin's dark, evil soul.
aug 19, 2025, 1:23 pm • 2 0 • view
aug 19, 2025, 10:59 am • 16 1 • view
I do not understand why this agreement being breached isn’t discussed more often.
aug 19, 2025, 1:46 pm • 10 1 • view
In the US and UK? Embarrassment.
aug 19, 2025, 2:35 pm • 4 0 • view
To what end?
aug 19, 2025, 3:59 pm • 0 0 • view
for those Americans saying they are not obliged to help Ukraine
aug 19, 2025, 9:39 pm • 2 0 • view
oh... yes hit them with a bit of legalese. Sure that wins over MAGA idiots like Speaker Johnson or MTG. Because if haven't grasped concepts like self-determination, independence & sovereignty and, that borders shouldn't be changed by force then the Budapest Agreement is really going to win it :)
aug 20, 2025, 9:49 am • 1 0 • view
Actually it serves as irrefutable fact to anyone touting‘security guarantees’ that such a provision must have specific teeth. Consequences. Otherwise, they mean nothing.
aug 20, 2025, 10:04 am • 3 0 • view
Well said. Look as Brit am ashamed more isn't done under Budapest obligations but that simply isn't where the debate is nor where it should be. Guarantees will be tested by RU too. They have decades of Cold War form like here with this Berlin stand-off. rarehistoricalphotos.com/standoff-che...
aug 20, 2025, 10:21 am • 1 0 • view
Oh because that makes Obama look bad too
aug 19, 2025, 4:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 19, 2025, 12:25 pm • 3 0 • view
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aug 20, 2025, 5:25 am • 1 0 • view
Exactly
aug 19, 2025, 12:19 pm • 0 0 • view
Only thing we can be thankful for is that Donald didn't insult Zelenskyy again. He felt the pressure of European unity. Whether he'll do anything to help Ukraine remains to be seen. I wouldn't hold my breath. youtu.be/MwwSua0zdIY
aug 19, 2025, 8:23 am • 42 1 • view
Trump delivers Putin's message: ►“no going into Nato by Ukraine” ►Crimea, illegally annexed, remains Russian ▶︎All burden on peace thrust on Ukraine
aug 19, 2025, 12:57 pm • 1 0 • view
Europe is working towards an independent nato. Marginalizing America. The problem is if the first step is taken, it’s easier to take all other steps after that. Soon you will have a Europe that sees America as a competitor and not an ally. That not where you want this to go. America needs the EU too
aug 19, 2025, 12:25 pm • 2 0 • view
You leave him some wiggle room for doing something credible. I do not, unless Ukraine simply gives in & throws in the towel.
aug 19, 2025, 1:34 pm • 0 0 • view
How belittling of Trump in that last meeting. He came across as a schoolyard bully, without balls.As did Vance, Mr eyeliner. They both looked pathetic.
aug 19, 2025, 8:42 am • 23 0 • view
Weak weak men
aug 19, 2025, 10:14 am • 11 0 • view
Putin has been remarkably consistent. Germany needs to give Ukraine Taurus missiles if they promise to only hit military and Oil & Gas targets.
aug 19, 2025, 7:51 pm • 0 0 • view
War is upon us. I don’t know who suggested the ‘trilat’ be held in Geneva, but I believe Putin would be arrested immediately.
aug 19, 2025, 12:02 pm • 1 0 • view
Security guarantees to Ukraine were already signed and violated by both the US and Russia, when they wanted Ukraine to give up it’s nuclear weapons
aug 19, 2025, 4:50 pm • 2 0 • view
And who would trust the US to uphold their part in any security guarantees, no matter how "robust"?
aug 19, 2025, 11:39 am • 3 0 • view
We 🇺🇸 have violated no part of The Budapest Memorandum
aug 19, 2025, 11:48 am • 2 0 • view
Correct. Putin is playing Trump. Zelenskyy and the Europeans should just take Trump out of the process entirely. Thanks for your efforts.
aug 19, 2025, 10:41 am • 2 0 • view
Exactly. The only thing that came out of that meeting is more bombing time for Putin. As for everything else discussed, Putin will say thank you but nyet.
aug 19, 2025, 12:15 pm • 2 0 • view
Imagine what they are thinking -- then saying to their spouses. Oy.
aug 19, 2025, 10:20 pm • 1 0 • view
And what Putin wants, or says he wants, must be ignored. He is a savage dog and must be contained or put down - there is no other consideration
aug 19, 2025, 11:26 am • 3 0 • view
Even if Putin said he would do all of those things, he won't. He' a conman and says whatever he wants to get his way....just like Trump! 2 con-men.
aug 19, 2025, 1:51 pm • 0 0 • view
peace in ukraine is made in drone factories. or not.
aug 19, 2025, 6:05 pm • 1 0 • view
Right, no one ever says that Russia has to withdraw from Ukraine's original borders.
aug 19, 2025, 10:20 am • 3 0 • view
Trusting Crayola Man is absolutely Cray Cray
aug 19, 2025, 11:03 am • 1 0 • view
You’re so right
aug 19, 2025, 5:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Russia gave Ukraine a "security guarantee" when Ukraine gave all the nukes that were on Ukrainian soil back to Russia. Putin broke that agreement. Any agreement with Putin isn't worth the paper it is printed on (just like any agreement with trump)
aug 19, 2025, 12:44 pm • 1 0 • view
If there is no ceasefire - and the daily bombings & murders of innocents have not stopped - a trilateral meeting is an illusion. It can happen but only with putin’s capitulation, or his demise. #SlavaUkraini 🌻✌🏼🇺🇦
aug 19, 2025, 3:50 pm • 2 1 • view
There were already security guarantees and UA gave up its nuclear weapons. Guarantees mean nothing when the parties don't honor them.
aug 19, 2025, 11:32 am • 27 2 • view
If u don’t set that red line out from the start then all other talk is premature
aug 19, 2025, 11:20 am • 2 0 • view
Being honest is not being a bummer. Always lying IS the bummer belched out by 47
aug 19, 2025, 9:14 pm • 1 0 • view
Reality is always a downer in these times where "alternative facts" are steering all policy decisions.
aug 19, 2025, 10:59 am • 3 1 • view
Trumps imaginary peace talks are going nicely. Aspirational?
aug 19, 2025, 6:19 pm • 1 0 • view
And the European leaders understand that completely. Trump is a fool.
aug 19, 2025, 1:36 pm • 0 0 • view
The last four Security guarantees were not worth the paper they were written on, what makes anyone thing that any future guarantee would be any better. We let them down before and will again. If nuclear had been retained, perhaps we would not be in this situation. Oh for greater hindsight .
aug 19, 2025, 9:43 am • 10 0 • view
Donate directly to Ukraine here. 🇺🇦 UNITED24 - The initiative of the President of Ukraine u24.gov.ua
aug 19, 2025, 5:33 pm • 0 0 • view
We and Russia already gave Ukraine security guarantees when they gave up their nukes under the Budapest memorandum. Russia needs to get the fuck out of Ukrainian lands and we need to honor our commitment.
aug 19, 2025, 11:56 am • 17 3 • view
Yes, some people think that Trump speaks on behalf of Putin when in fact Putin speaks for both of them.
aug 19, 2025, 8:21 am • 58 3 • view
We have our own problems here with Agent Krasnov. He even took a 40 minute "pause" yesterday to have a 40 minute phone call with Putin. The US has slidden into autocracy here, and we can't even help ourselves to get out of it.
aug 19, 2025, 11:42 am • 2 0 • view
I think he speaks to Putin a lot more often than is believed, not a daily thing, but likely weekly and maybe twice a week if needed. There’s no monitoring trumps phone calls anymore, not since his first foray into politics
aug 19, 2025, 4:49 pm • 3 0 • view
Undoubtedly, plenty of communication between them.
aug 19, 2025, 9:05 pm • 2 0 • view
Yep. I agree.
aug 21, 2025, 12:28 pm • 1 0 • view
This ☝️
aug 19, 2025, 10:15 am • 9 0 • view
Thank you. It was one of my rare moments of insight. 😁
aug 19, 2025, 3:51 pm • 2 0 • view
Dunno, you fair bamboozled old Gollum. Clearly Valinor haz t'Internetz... Nice to kno'
aug 20, 2025, 9:19 am • 1 0 • view
It’s diverted Trump from what could have been a disastrous course of agreeing settlements with Putin.
aug 19, 2025, 11:36 am • 1 0 • view
This is all just one ridiculous exercise where Trump can host a "summit" where he allegedly will make a "deal" that will get him the Nobel participation trophy he so badly wants. He has no idea that Putin is 100% playing him and using him to advance Russia's demands only.
aug 19, 2025, 7:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Trump is able to create this charade because Biden and euros failed, hemming and hawing over weapons systems.
aug 19, 2025, 12:03 pm • 2 0 • view
If only one of our leaders had the guts to say that yesterday.
aug 19, 2025, 10:49 am • 1 0 • view
How many times has Putin been invited to the table for these meetings and not shown up? I think we’re at 3 times now. He isn’t interested in peace, he’s interested in propaganda, stealing Ukrainian land, and controlling their government. No peace for Russia, till they stop fighting in Ukraine.
aug 19, 2025, 11:55 am • 2 0 • view
and it is total bullshit
aug 19, 2025, 11:35 am • 1 0 • view
Security guarantees seem distant & unrealistic assurances when we can’t even get planes to Ukraine they can fly to defend their skies, but I see the utility of threatening allied boots on the ground to bargain w/ Putin and pressure Trump to move toward defending Europe short of hostilities.
aug 19, 2025, 10:13 am • 3 0 • view
This is all a Trump stunt. Some dummies out there still believe he has all the answers 🥴
aug 19, 2025, 12:27 pm • 1 0 • view
As usual you are right. Remember this is how he works incrementally with delegations until he sees an opening!!
aug 19, 2025, 8:24 am • 2 0 • view
It will never happen with Putin.
aug 19, 2025, 1:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Putin is blackmailing Trump
aug 19, 2025, 11:16 am • 2 0 • view
I feel your right Anne. I feel Putin is furious at Trump because of all the things he did for him. Now he is calling in Trumps markers and Trump is ignoring him. Putin is a cruel, vicious, violent dictator. Russia is up in flames and Putin is getting desperate.
aug 19, 2025, 8:56 pm • 2 0 • view
Putin will not abide by anything he says to gain Ukraine’s land.
aug 19, 2025, 11:48 am • 5 0 • view
Which is why security guarantees are so important. Nobody should trust anything Putin says. Unfortunately Krasnov is still his stooge and believes him.
aug 19, 2025, 11:53 am • 3 0 • view
I wouldn't trust Trump in view of security guarantees as little as I would trust Putin. Look at the security guarantees of the Budapest Memorandum 1994 - they were not worth the paper they were written on!
aug 19, 2025, 11:57 am • 3 0 • view
Which is why the security guarantees needs to involve a permanent presence of NATO in Ukraine.
aug 19, 2025, 12:41 pm • 1 0 • view
But what if the US is not reliable? Then we're having a greater problem than we are currently having!
aug 19, 2025, 12:44 pm • 0 0 • view
I said NATO, not the US. NATO consists of 31 other countries. And at this point, NATO shouldn't count on the US for anything. And NATO could survive without the US.
aug 19, 2025, 12:48 pm • 1 0 • view
Putin will never agree to NATO presence in Ukraine. His excuse for war was that NATO was encroaching on Russian territories. There is no solution to this problem that Putin will not abuse.
aug 19, 2025, 1:26 pm • 1 0 • view
He certainly won't agree to it right now considering that Russia is very slowly making gains. However, if his economy was cratering even more and he was losing a lot more thanks to additional firepower given to Ukraine, he might have to suck it up.
aug 19, 2025, 1:32 pm • 0 0 • view
It is more likely to be the Russian economy that defeats him. People struggling to live is not a good thing for any countries govt.
aug 19, 2025, 2:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Except Putin doesn't care about the current state of the economy as its mostly affecting the little people. If his oligarch buddies really start to feel the pain of the economy, then he is in trouble.
aug 19, 2025, 2:14 pm • 0 0 • view
If the US decides to ignore paragraph 5 and won't act in case the security troops are getting shot at by the Russians, this will trigger a war that will involve the whole of Europe. That's when the shit will really hit the fan! Do you not realise this?
aug 19, 2025, 12:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Yep
aug 19, 2025, 1:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Agreed. I don't know how we went from war to security guarantees without the two primaries having even spoken. The orange shitgibbon has told us what Putin wants: land and no membership in NATO. This is what I believe will be the offer, despite Monday.
aug 19, 2025, 12:07 pm • 1 0 • view
Does anybody really believe that guarantees from Putin are any type of guarantees at all?
aug 19, 2025, 1:43 pm • 0 0 • view
Beside that, would you trust security from The US right now? Come on,get real! A Trump promise is dust as it leaves his mouth.
aug 19, 2025, 2:58 pm • 1 0 • view
How can people know what Putin said or not? Russian voices were censored from the begining of the proxy war. In what court of law do we only listen to one side of the story? Learn from the qualified professors like Robert H. Wade: blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2...
aug 19, 2025, 10:39 am • 1 0 • view
The only security guarantee the EU should accept is NATO membership for Ukraine!
aug 19, 2025, 6:40 pm • 2 0 • view
Maybe they need you as a mediator?
aug 19, 2025, 1:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Incompetent Schitler is trying to cover up his latest ass kicking.
aug 19, 2025, 9:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Any politician or military leader who invokes borders as an argument is dangerous and dealing with a 19th century mentality. German U Boats and Japanese aircraft carriers should have settled that nine decades ago let alone ICBMs and transcontinental aircraft. There are NO MILITARY borders
aug 20, 2025, 1:32 pm • 0 0 • view
Way premature.
aug 19, 2025, 12:07 pm • 1 0 • view
Didn't Russia (and indeed the US and Belarus) sign the Budapest Memorandum, guaranteeing Ukrainian sovereignty ? I wonder how that turned out.
aug 19, 2025, 8:49 am • 6 0 • view
They have already signed the peace deal (Budapest), now they appear to be negotiating the same deal with Ukraine being smaller again. Repeat again in 5 years.
aug 19, 2025, 1:27 pm • 2 0 • view
@anneapplebaum.bsky.social He's never treated Zalensky as equal and never will. He always acts as if superior to all the former USSR and related countries (Poland incl.)
aug 19, 2025, 10:04 am • 3 0 • view
@anneapplebaum.bsky.social he did, way back when the the Budapest Memorandum to give up nuclear arsenal was signed in 1994. There were guarantees of security and territorial integrity from the US, the UK, France, China and...Russia. Ukraine's greatest mistake.
aug 19, 2025, 10:01 am • 2 0 • view
But we can assume he did say to Trump, in their bilateral, ‘There will be no ceasefire!’ Which means he wants to continue the war until he has the territories he wants. And jaw jaw at the same time.
aug 19, 2025, 9:40 am • 2 0 • view
The discussion of security guarantees is as worthless as those promised in Budapest and Minsk.
aug 19, 2025, 1:26 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s all smoke and mirrors because he has the Epstein files, revealing Trump’s involvement. I would bet my life savings on it.
aug 19, 2025, 3:24 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 19, 2025, 10:56 am • 1 0 • view
Then what were the Minsk agreements?
aug 19, 2025, 1:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Genau
aug 19, 2025, 12:51 pm • 0 0 • view
So obvious and clear.
aug 19, 2025, 11:38 am • 1 0 • view
Concepts of a framework for a meeting.
aug 19, 2025, 1:51 pm • 1 0 • view
In two weeks.
aug 19, 2025, 1:53 pm • 2 0 • view
He’ll just not show up.
aug 19, 2025, 12:36 pm • 1 0 • view
Putin doesn’t need to be KGB to easily sway Trump’s behavior, a ‘you look smart with the red tie’ usually suffices.
aug 19, 2025, 2:41 pm • 0 0 • view
You can't believe anything Putin or Russia says. Ask me how I know. 🇺🇸🇱🇻
aug 19, 2025, 6:33 pm • 0 0 • view
This was Trump’s lies through his faults teeth.
aug 19, 2025, 2:33 pm • 0 0 • view
to say the least - everything is premature until Putin's Puppet in the White House steps aside😠
aug 20, 2025, 2:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Just do it. Take Trumps word for it and put troops in Ukraine.
aug 19, 2025, 2:28 pm • 1 0 • view
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aug 19, 2025, 12:14 pm • 3 0 • view
Yes- also a Zelenskyy/Putin "face to face" will accomplish NOTHING.
aug 19, 2025, 11:21 am • 2 0 • view
Plus Putin says Zelenskyy is an illegitimate President. The talk of a face to face meeting is a placeholder.
aug 19, 2025, 12:13 pm • 1 0 • view
It’s absurd to use Trump in same sentence as “guarantee” Trump has broken his marriage vows, his oath to uphold the Constitution, his pledge to release Epstein files, his assurance he'd end Russia-Ukraine War on Day 1, his vow to lower prices & balance the budget! open.substack.com/pub/contrari...
aug 19, 2025, 12:14 pm • 1 1 • view
The best Sanctions are Ukrainian and they can be supported by individuals in the international community. Donate for drone warfare! choose love
aug 19, 2025, 3:06 pm • 0 0 • view
Most "things" that come out of 🍊 Donnie's mouth are inappropriate or premature, and while a TACO outcome is likely, it might not hurt for the MSM to keep repeating what Fat Hitler brought up himself
aug 19, 2025, 10:22 am • 2 0 • view
Anyone who believes that the USA will honour (English/Australian spelling) is delusional.. and Putin knows that. Think back to USA guarantee's given by Clinton
aug 19, 2025, 10:41 am • 1 0 • view
The #theAtlantic garbage paper think they are geo political experts is ironic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
aug 19, 2025, 12:07 pm • 1 0 • view
Ukraine signed Away ALL their Nukes. Willingly. has this no Bearing?
aug 19, 2025, 10:03 am • 5 0 • view
Putin has broken all the agreements he has made.
aug 19, 2025, 9:37 am • 2 0 • view
Spot on Anne! Trump wants a quick fix and to hell with the consequences! He's the worst person in the world to act as mediator because he gets his orders from Putin.
aug 19, 2025, 9:02 pm • 0 0 • view
No, the PROVISION of security guarantees for Ukraine is 4 years overdue! Russia must be defeated, not threatened.
aug 19, 2025, 11:29 am • 3 1 • view
Premature? Trump cut off the peace momentum by walking back the American security agreement inclusion of troops in support of it. If this is the Art of the Deal, the artwork is a finger painting.
aug 19, 2025, 7:56 pm • 0 0 • view
There are 30 countries that are willing to put troops in Ukraine. No disrespect intended, but American troops arent needed.
aug 20, 2025, 9:30 am • 1 0 • view
Watching the post meeting TV you can see that NATO leaders rehearsed their parts well by in turn excessively praising trump to stroke his ego. Meanwhile when not talking, you can see them barely able to keep from laughing at trump. TACO is the butt of international jokes
aug 19, 2025, 11:50 am • 2 0 • view
Deservedly so ...
aug 19, 2025, 12:50 pm • 0 0 • view
America and Russia bomb people America killed millions In revenge for 9/11 But not in Saudi Arabia
aug 19, 2025, 12:38 pm • 1 0 • view
cease fire was the goal-what happened-trump backed down again kneeling before putin-IMPEACH HIM!
aug 19, 2025, 2:50 pm • 0 0 • view
This is his hill to die on. He’s the most vicious scorned “entity” on the planet and he’s holding everyone hostage to pay attention to him. He wants to be a communist European and play in their backyard but cannot so he will eat them alive to be feared if not liked. He’s Gollum holding Europe.
aug 19, 2025, 3:21 pm • 0 0 • view
There is a huge amount of wishful thinking in Western circles at the moment about a negotiated end to the Russia-Ukraine war. The idea that Putin will negotiate and agree terms in good faith is vacuous.
aug 19, 2025, 8:50 am • 19 0 • view
Is this all being done simply as a part of Trump’s Peace Prize scheme?
aug 20, 2025, 3:02 am • 0 0 • view
The Ukraine has no reason to trust them either. They've been violated over and over again.
aug 19, 2025, 9:34 am • 12 1 • view
…already happened in 1994 and have all been forgotten. Treaties, like laws are only effective if they are enforced. Multinational treaty “guaranteed” Ukraine’s sovereignty - signed by US, Europe, & Russia. Ignored by all except Ukraine shortly afterwards.
aug 19, 2025, 5:25 pm • 0 0 • view
Any discussion at all involving Trump is an absurdist exercise in futility. It will end sooner if they ghost the moron from the POTUS reality show.
aug 20, 2025, 7:33 am • 0 0 • view
It's all utter nonsense. Putin has no intention of ending the war, and is always five steps ahead of Trump. The only way to stop the mass murderer is by muscularly arming Ukraine.
aug 19, 2025, 12:54 pm • 1 0 • view
Das ist ein klassischer Fall von "Ich-weiß-was-ich-sage"-Politik. Trump scheint sich auf Dinge einzulassen, die ihm keine Mühe machen, und Putin bietet "Sicherheitsgarantien", die nur für seine eigenen Interessen gelten. Werden wir jemals wieder auf ehrliche Worte stoßen?
aug 19, 2025, 2:11 pm • 0 0 • view
Particularly when the last time we said we would provide security guarantees the Putin MessagengerBoy and his MAGA zombies walked away from previous promises. Security guarentees from what America is now; a Pariah State, are meaningless.
aug 19, 2025, 12:05 pm • 1 0 • view
Putin doesn't want "meetings." He wants property. He wants sovereignty. He wants Zelensky under his boot. There's no further discussion with Putin. OR Zelensky for that matter. I don't like violence and war, but if Putin "wins" Ukraine, what's next? The rest of the planet? Putin must be stopped.
aug 19, 2025, 9:06 am • 48 3 • view
I mean it's not like "Okay I have Ukraine now. I'm done. Thanks everybody. I'm gonna stop taking over countries now. Maybe take on basket weaving instead. That looks like fun!" 👍
aug 19, 2025, 9:13 am • 34 2 • view
The West made that assumption in 1938.
aug 19, 2025, 11:23 am • 0 0 • view
The problem is that with Crimea and the Donbas, he did have a group of Russians that he could leverage to grab the land. Unfortunately he also has this in the Baltic states. I think if a land for peace deal is reached and European armies are on his borders, he may at least pause and die.
aug 19, 2025, 10:40 am • 0 0 • view
The problem for the Baltic States and the Stans is that, like Ukraine, they will distrust and discriminate against Russian-speakers. (Quite rightly given their history!) This will be used as the pretext for the next land grab by Putin.
aug 19, 2025, 10:42 am • 0 0 • view
I think, his thinking is: it it will take a generation to 'digest' Ukraine. Then use the manpower of Ukraine and Belarus *and Russia* to attack Poland. Russian propaganda reminding the population of the conquest of Paris! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...
aug 19, 2025, 10:30 am • 1 0 • view
Putin doesn't have a generation. I doubt he has a decade left in him. Zelensky is slowing down what Putin feels should be inevitable. Putin is running out of time. Zelensky is waiting for him to die. My concern is, who do THEY replace Putin with? and who is this THEY? Same assholes who own Trump..?
aug 19, 2025, 9:43 am • 0 0 • view
Exactly. Once Putin has Ukraine, he invades Poland and Lithuania. Luckily, Putin has prostrate cancer plus Parkinsons. Give him 12 months at most before he is dead. He didn't even attend the mtg. with Trump. It was one of his "doubles" he sent.
aug 19, 2025, 10:30 am • 19 1 • view
Even after Putin is dead, I still won't believe it. Maybe if I visited his funeral and ripped his dead heart out of his body while laying in a coffin I'd look at his heart and shrug. "Still not dead enough." Then I'd put his heart in the coffin, close the lid, set it on fire and light a cigarette.
aug 19, 2025, 9:40 am • 16 0 • view
America Has bombed far more.kids than Russia Are American bombs good in Your opinion? Boeing builds bombs Fly often to Fund genocide Earth is burning
aug 19, 2025, 12:44 pm • 0 0 • view
U.S. military-industrial complex out of control: $1,700,000,000.00 now being spent to make Plutonium Pits (the bomb cores that begin the chain reaction in every US thermonuclear weapon). Read why it's unnecessary, dangerous & a complete waste of U.S. tax $$$: www.ucs.org/resources/pl...
aug 19, 2025, 4:32 pm • 0 0 • view
Be happy to assist you.
aug 19, 2025, 4:35 pm • 3 0 • view
bring some kerosene.
aug 19, 2025, 3:48 pm • 6 0 • view
🤣
aug 19, 2025, 4:52 pm • 3 0 • view
мысли и молитвы is Russian for thoughts & prayers🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
aug 19, 2025, 10:39 am • 2 0 • view
Not to mention they had one before invasion #1 and invasion #2
aug 19, 2025, 12:13 pm • 1 0 • view
He just wants the land and for Ukraine to stop fighting back and no join NATO. That way he can rearm and do it all again.
aug 19, 2025, 1:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Even if he did, putin cannot be trusted. It was a show. tRump played his part, and putin left. Nothing was accomplished, except that the US welcomed a war criminal to this country.
aug 19, 2025, 2:22 pm • 2 0 • view
So Trump wants Ukraine to give up land illegally occupied by Russia. What is Russia giving up? Fuck Putin, Fuck Trump, and fuck the Russians.
aug 19, 2025, 3:30 pm • 1 0 • view
Didn’t we make security guarantees back when we convinced Ukraine to relinquish its nuclear weapons? Why should they barely on any guarantees from us?
aug 19, 2025, 11:09 am • 1 0 • view
Agreed, however we know that's exactly what Putin will not agree to i.e. no NATO admission. We get to the end quicker. In the end, in may very well be boots on the ground but we should try the harshest of sanctions first.
aug 19, 2025, 11:33 am • 1 0 • view
Putin is manically obsessed in his incompetent amateur historian way with giving the rotted old Soviet Union/Russian Empire corpse a jolt of electricity. Once viewed through this lens, all of his manoeuvrings of the partially liquefied turd brained US Epstein in Chief are pretty obvious.
aug 19, 2025, 2:11 pm • 0 0 • view
Just as TRUMP has never acknowledged that RUSSIA ATTACKED UKRAINE.
aug 19, 2025, 1:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Security guarantees are empty promises from the US. Ukraine gave up nukes and bombers for security guarantees by the US and the West after the Soviet Union collapsed. Russia invaded and occupies Ukraine all the same.
aug 19, 2025, 12:44 pm • 2 0 • view
aug 19, 2025, 4:32 pm • 4 1 • view
lol i have Personal hatred for stupid Donald trump
aug 19, 2025, 4:53 pm • 4 0 • view
Putin wants to "put the band back together" starting with Ukraine. He wants to go back to the days of the USSR. Why would he want a peace agreement? He wants Ukraine.
aug 19, 2025, 5:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Probably. But it makes Trump think that peace will come soon. It keeps him motivated. American intelligence and logistics still support Ukraine, and that’s positive. It’s the best way to buy time.
aug 19, 2025, 9:07 am • 2 0 • view
We are moving from This Fake summit, to Attacking Mail-In voting to lose the Epstein stuff. Everything you listed sounds great - which is the point. And the news chases it - and here we are.
aug 19, 2025, 1:06 pm • 0 0 • view
Premature? Putin wants nothing of an end to this war. It won't even begin to end until and after both Moscow and St. Petersburg are leveled to rubble. Why are we all just fooling ourselves about this? It makes no sense to me.
aug 19, 2025, 11:32 am • 2 0 • view
Exactly. They throw out these steps to peace without regard to the guy who is unwilling to give up anything he has already taken.
aug 19, 2025, 2:54 pm • 0 0 • view
That's when you take the second step before the first. Shouldn't a ceasefire be agreed before the negotiations? Putin doesn't want a ceasefire because then Ukraine will use it to rearm. And then possibly attack Russia.
aug 19, 2025, 8:49 pm • 0 0 • view
If Europe and the rest of the actual democracies in the world want they can keep helping Ukraine and at some point Putin might have to try to end it. Then you could do something. Right now I see no evidence that Russia is willing to negotiate in good faith.
aug 19, 2025, 6:24 pm • 0 0 • view
They also need to strengthen their own ties and I still say the actual democracies of the world need to form a new group without us, at least for now, and without any one member having veto power. The UK needs to also undo Brexit.
aug 19, 2025, 6:25 pm • 1 0 • view
And Putin calling Zelenskyy a dictator, if he shows up together with him, ruzzians will call him a traitor.
aug 19, 2025, 9:23 am • 8 0 • view
Wishful thinking commingled with fantasy and typical TACO delusion.
aug 19, 2025, 5:30 pm • 0 0 • view
Agree, this process seems rushed as if in time for a prize in October, even though 2025 nominees have been selected in Spring. I fear that without US support EU cannot foot the bill and Zelenskyy is giving in.
aug 19, 2025, 1:25 pm • 0 0 • view
I am fairly certain that nothing of value to Ukraine will vis a vis Russia will come out of these US meetings now Air raids went off in Kiev while the meetings took place in the US! Russia was attacking Ukraine while the Alaska meeting took place Putin has no interest in peace; he is playing Trump
aug 19, 2025, 8:48 am • 21 1 • view
This discussion between the three leaders needs to be over the phone. Hammer out each Country’s wants, demands and desires. Take the time necessary not these 40 minute public discussions. Work through diplomacy.
aug 19, 2025, 3:30 pm • 0 0 • view
Am afraid you are entirely right to be extremely sceptic, Putin will not budge on anything.
aug 19, 2025, 8:28 am • 18 0 • view
Destroying more Russian oil refineries and weapons factories are the only thing he will listen to. And if peace is reached by giving up land, Europe needs to move soldiers right up to the new borders and screw whether Putin likes it or not.
aug 19, 2025, 10:37 am • 9 0 • view
Exactly, force is the only thing he will listen to as it will further impact his already poor economy. And it is not up to Putler to determine whether European boots can be moved into Ukraine either. Bullies should be bullied back.
aug 19, 2025, 10:59 am • 12 0 • view
Putin obviously saw Trump as his most potent weapon, but Trump used up the last of his leverage when he cut off weapons to Ukraine. Beyond weaponizing Trump, Putin is out of good options.
aug 19, 2025, 12:48 pm • 0 0 • view
We already had security guarantees, which Putin violated.
aug 19, 2025, 11:03 am • 1 0 • view
i wish Anne Applebaum were running for office.
aug 19, 2025, 2:18 pm • 0 0 • view
The EU putting bases in Ukraine is that safety guarantee. It is basically the same countries as NATO in Europe. The hold-up is Trump, all countries in Washington agreed to it, but the US. All agreed to an Article 5 type NATO agreement, again except the Trump US.
aug 19, 2025, 11:05 am • 3 0 • view
You're not being a downer, dearest. You, my darling, are now known as: a strategic thinker who has skillfully the disparate aggregates of this perplexing puzzle, and concocted a plausible, if not probable scenario. Bravo!
aug 19, 2025, 9:11 am • 4 0 • view
Skillfully distilled
aug 19, 2025, 11:06 am • 1 0 • view
Looking rationally, this deal would allow Putin to claim victory whilst solid security guarantees would be very positive for Ukraine. Continuing the war isn’t cost free for putin, the economy is overheating and the casualties are mounting. I’m highly sceptical though.
aug 19, 2025, 9:06 am • 2 0 • view
Like so much else, it's performative. To point to a success that doesn't exist.
aug 19, 2025, 1:10 pm • 0 0 • view
If any of this is related to musings from Trump, it's already been discarded as 'make it up as you go diplomacy' from the orange windbag.
aug 19, 2025, 6:58 pm • 1 0 • view
He guaranteed ukraine sovereignty back in the 90s when ukraine gave up all their nukes. Putin is not credible. I'd hoped the presence of eu leaders yesterday would've made a difference. Doesn't sound like it did.
aug 19, 2025, 9:14 am • 3 0 • view
Not sure the media understands this.
aug 19, 2025, 9:21 am • 2 0 • view
Ask U of Trump students. Trump Steak buyers, and many vendors and contractors over 5 decades about the STRENGTH of any Donald Trump guarantees 😂 🤡
aug 19, 2025, 12:15 pm • 2 0 • view
Also, we quickly forget Trump's first thought was to rape Ukraine of it's natural resources in return for past deliveries of arms. Nothing is now said about this so one suspects Putin has made a higher counter offer of this kind.
aug 19, 2025, 11:34 am • 2 0 • view
And he's explicitly ruled out as a provocation the sort of guarantees Starmer talks about.
aug 19, 2025, 11:29 am • 1 0 • view
Mission accomplished Peace in our time.
aug 19, 2025, 9:41 am • 2 0 • view
We know what Putin wants...he WANTS the entire Ukraine to be Russian. If we don't stop him now.....what's to stop him from grabbing more countries?
aug 19, 2025, 1:14 pm • 1 0 • view
aug 19, 2025, 12:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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aug 19, 2025, 10:35 am • 1 0 • view
No one is finding it an emergency that a POTUS is following orders from Russia?? CIA, hawks, even republicans- everyone just good with this?!?
aug 19, 2025, 1:13 pm • 1 1 • view
Neither Ukraine nor Europe will accept Russian “guarantees.” They understand the stakes.
aug 19, 2025, 4:18 pm • 0 0 • view
It's all a massive waste of time because 1) Putin is never going to honor a cease fire or anything else, & won't leave Ukraine until defeated and 2) Ukraine is not going to agree to just hand over territory (nor should they) The "peace talks" are just Putin's gambit for taking territory w/o cost.
aug 19, 2025, 12:44 pm • 1 0 • view
The question isn't what Putin respects or doesn't. The only question right now is how to end the war and ensure the security of Ukraine and Europe. Russia's security is also important, but it's not a priority.
aug 19, 2025, 1:22 pm • 0 0 • view
The way to end the war is to defeat Putin, not negotiate with him. He does not negotiate in good faith. He needs to be crushed militarily.
aug 19, 2025, 2:37 pm • 1 0 • view
This should have all been taken care of when Unkraine agreed to give up it's nukes.
aug 19, 2025, 11:46 am • 2 0 • view
Huge distraction for Don the Con.
aug 19, 2025, 10:27 am • 2 0 • view
I think Ukraine should make a deal about the land. Things are only going to get worse.
aug 19, 2025, 1:22 pm • 0 0 • view
At the pace of less than 1% in 3 years. Does it sound like a good deal to you - "surrender Kramatorsk now, otherwise Russia might get it anyway somewhere around 2040"?
aug 19, 2025, 1:26 pm • 2 0 • view
But its a start. There are two things that need to happen to achieve peace in Ukraine. 1) Ukraine relinquishing territory (implicitly, not explicitly) and 2) Security guarantees for Ukraine. So better to start the discussion now, even if its not close to happening.
aug 19, 2025, 11:51 am • 1 0 • view
I think Trump likes and proud of himself to be able to say the word “trilateral”. That’s why he keeps repeating that word. As you rightly stated, Putin has never said any of those things. Now his soldiers are flying Russia and American flags as they commit war crimes.
aug 19, 2025, 10:14 am • 2 0 • view
But the discussion has to be pounded into trump’s head from now until they are no longer premature. Otherwise he will simply do as putin dictates.
aug 19, 2025, 10:43 am • 1 0 • view
True.
aug 19, 2025, 2:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Even Trump repeatedly said he wanted peace. Everyone at the meeting in Washington wanted peace. Putin NEVER said that. He is the only one who clearly doesn't have peace on his mind.
aug 19, 2025, 10:14 am • 5 0 • view
He's played Trump.
aug 20, 2025, 1:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Putin already violated the agreement between Russia, U.K & U.S to protect Ukraine's sovereignty after giving up NUKES for independence! Security guarantees is kicking the can down the road again! FO to Russia and stay there and Ukraine joins NATO is the only security guarantees!
aug 19, 2025, 9:27 pm • 1 0 • view
It really doesn't matter what Putin said, he could have promised all of those things, but has proven he will never abide by any type of agreement.
aug 19, 2025, 11:41 am • 4 0 • view
If he had said it he wouldn’t do it anyway. Just like someone else we know.
aug 19, 2025, 10:44 am • 1 0 • view
THIS! Meanwhile German chancellor:
aug 19, 2025, 8:57 am • 2 0 • view
That simple shows how low the expectations have been.
aug 19, 2025, 11:20 pm • 1 0 • view
Yesterday's summit at the WH was purely theatricals to appease Trump, so that he wouldn't interfere again with intelligence sharing and arms delivery. UA knows that rusnya is on the verge of collapse. The new long-range capabilities will hasten it.
aug 19, 2025, 8:39 am • 73 4 • view
An intervention, it was an intervention.
aug 19, 2025, 1:49 pm • 2 0 • view
Precisely, but Zelensky doesn't really believe that it's possible to come to terms with Huylo. In that sense, it's also a performance.
aug 19, 2025, 1:54 pm • 2 0 • view
He is right, of course. And he knows more than enough about them. But for now, we have to play along, because of patriots and missiles. Until the Coalition of the Determined has enough of their own.
aug 19, 2025, 4:01 pm • 2 0 • view
North Korea has been on the verge of collapse for decades so I wouldn't hold out much hope on that count. A brutal dictator can cow most populations, especially one that has rarely known any democracy in its past like Russia. They have shrugging and keeping their head down in their genes.
aug 19, 2025, 10:32 am • 35 0 • view
Not a good analogy, since NK is not involved in a kinetic war that consumes tens of thousands of lives and billions of $ per month. Large-scale wars drain economies like nothing else.
aug 19, 2025, 10:39 am • 18 0 • view
Per capita income in Russia is $11,000 vs $1,700 in North Korea so there is plenty of room for impoverishment of the population. And guess what? The poorer the population is, the easier they are to control. Let's not forget North Koreans are dying to save Putin's model. georank.org/economy/nort...
aug 19, 2025, 10:46 am • 19 0 • view
What is rent In poor nations vs rich nations ?
aug 19, 2025, 12:40 pm • 0 0 • view
I am not disputing the iron grip that Putin has on his population of mentally-enslaved serfs. Afghanistan was a war of much lower intensity, and yet it forced the USSR to choose between hasty retreat and economic collapse. A better comparison would be with the total wars of the XX century, though.
aug 19, 2025, 10:51 am • 13 1 • view
The Soviets, like other Afghan invaders, were ground down by an insurgency in the rural areas. In the case of the Soviets, that insurgency was dramatically aided by American aid that devastated Soviet air capabilities. The Afghans didn't so much win as bleed the Soviets dry.
aug 19, 2025, 11:21 am • 13 1 • view
America built al qaeda
aug 19, 2025, 12:40 pm • 0 0 • view
Yup, turning their backs on Afghanistan after the Soviets left opened up the playing field to whoever had enough guns and organization.
aug 19, 2025, 12:49 pm • 1 0 • view
The US, despite being the most powerful military ever, did do well against the insurgency.
aug 20, 2025, 1:58 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes, that's what happened.
aug 19, 2025, 11:44 am • 7 0 • view
& THAT is what spelled the downfall of the soviet union, NOT pressure from ameriKKKa, & certainly not ronald reagan's "mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall." what a filthy toilet fulla propaganda.
aug 19, 2025, 7:07 pm • 0 0 • view
I also think America had very little to do with it. The only time I visited Moscow, in 1990, it seemed to be a failing economy with nothing in the shops and nowhere to go. There were some private markets selling Chinese-made goods but I don't think Russia ever succeeded in economic transition.
aug 20, 2025, 7:10 am • 1 0 • view
i was in berlin in 1990. was in the streets & through brandenberg gate the night of reunification. going into east berlin, once or twice, was so different from the west. yrs before that i;d heard that everything was grey...even the people were grey. when i got there i saw exactly what they meant.
aug 20, 2025, 7:19 am • 0 0 • view
I spent the summer of 1990 in Poland and every summer since. The change has been huge. Not all good as under communism I am told by many real effort was made to house and entertain everyone in Poland. The trouble with Putin vs USSR is he isn't selling any ideology but kleptocracy.
aug 20, 2025, 7:26 am • 1 0 • view
that whole episode in history was horrible in so many ways. the way we behaved towards russia after the fall was shameful, & was deliberately humiliating, when they deserved a seat at the table. putin is getting his revenge; stalin 2.0. make russia great again.
aug 20, 2025, 7:17 am • 0 0 • view
Free-market ideologues will come up with an economic theory to justify any corporate money grab you like. You only have to look at the Trump circle. I wonder if shock therapy will work in Argentina. That's a country that only tries extremes and fails every time.
aug 20, 2025, 7:29 am • 1 0 • view
Is there an insurgency to speak of in Crimea and the Donbas? I only ask because this is the type of question a land for peace deal needs to answer.
aug 19, 2025, 11:23 am • 0 0 • view
Also, that war became a stalemate at around the time that Gorbachev's policy of Glasnost opened up avenues for the "man and womsn on the street" in the cities to voice their frustrations over what has become a meat grinder.
aug 19, 2025, 11:31 am • 0 0 • view
I don't think so. They are hits on bridges and oil facilities, but nothing like the attacks on helicopter gun ships that were instrumental in destroying Soviet control of the skies.
aug 19, 2025, 11:26 am • 0 0 • view
There is intense partisan activity, which hardly gets reported. Atesh is the largest group, and they post on X. Every second Friday, Ukraine the Latest hosts a scholarly expert who reports on recent activities. Ukrainian high command has the ability to order an insurrection at any time.
aug 19, 2025, 11:44 am • 2 0 • view
Millions of North Koreans died in a 1990s famine even after a North Korean guy I studied Chinese with in Beijing told me NK would copy China's path of reform and opening. They didn't. Some slow change is happening despite the government this says: libertyinnorthkorea.org/learn-a-chan...
aug 19, 2025, 10:57 am • 1 0 • view
Again, I am not expecting a popular uprising, just an economic collapse that would make it impossible for the regime to finance arms production, arms purchase abroad, enlistment bonuses, etc. Concurrently, they may soon lose the ability to refine oil and produce missiles and drones to hit UA with.
aug 19, 2025, 11:02 am • 1 0 • view
The poorer the population is, the easier they are to control. What's happening in US now? The Weimar Republic? Ya know what would raise tax dollars? Raising the minimum wage to a living wage, but then billionaires would have to come off of some money. Vote against your own priorities, Project 2025.
aug 19, 2025, 12:04 pm • 0 0 • view
Since 2022 russia has made almost one trillion dollars a year from fossil fuel sales. They are not hurting, although their tanks and armor are being depleted faster than replacements can be be found.
aug 19, 2025, 11:50 am • 2 0 • view
That contradicts what every reputable source is saying, so I'll stick with expert opinion.
aug 19, 2025, 11:53 am • 0 0 • view
The russian economy was in bad shape during WWII, and they beat Nazi Germany with millions of deaths. Putin does not care about losses or the economy. They are also being propped up by China, which will not let them lose.
aug 19, 2025, 12:19 pm • 1 0 • view
The only way that they beat their former nazi allies, or even to survive long enough to reorganise their defences, was through the Land Lease programme, courtesy of Uncle Sam. It was a mistake to bail them out.
aug 19, 2025, 12:30 pm • 2 0 • view
Letting russia do whatever it wants is always a mistake. European powers have known this for 300 years.
aug 19, 2025, 1:51 pm • 2 0 • view
“It’s impossible to see whether there’s a banking problem if banks want to roll over loans and the central bank is willing to close their eyes,” said Sergei Guriev, Dean of the London Business School. “There is no growth. It’s not clear how companies are going to pay back loans.” shorturl.at/CIdGX
aug 19, 2025, 2:10 pm • 0 0 • view
The analogy with China is good though as their real estate bad loan crisis didn't explode, it just festered and slowed the entire economy eventually. China and India exporting cheap, overcapacity goods to Russia will really help prop up that economy as the US enters stagflation by blocking imports.
aug 19, 2025, 2:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Ukraine knows their "security guarantee" is finishing off the broken RU army, they've already sunk most of the Black Sea fleet
aug 19, 2025, 11:09 am • 2 0 • view
The Alaskan Summit was a distraction from the Epstein controversy. A Hail Mary throw at best. Putin did his underling a solid by playing into Trumps distraction. Trump is underwater on every single poll and knows he's going to get thumped in the mid terms. He is desperate for some kind of win.
aug 19, 2025, 11:36 am • 1 0 • view
The positive is that he never acknowledged Zelensky as a legitimate president and now it seems that he has agreed to meet him. This would mean that he now acknowledges both Ukraine as a nation state with Zelensky as its president. So there seems to be some change.
aug 19, 2025, 8:30 am • 4 0 • view
Not really, no.
aug 19, 2025, 8:38 am • 4 0 • view
You can’t meet/negotiate with someone you don’t acknowledge. But I have to see the meeting between the two to believe it. I therefore don’t disagree with you.
aug 19, 2025, 9:00 am • 4 0 • view
I'm saying he always acknowledged him implicitly, by trying to have him assassinated among other things.
aug 19, 2025, 9:39 am • 2 0 • view
From day one of the Russian invasion the US response has been hampered by the Republicans desire to be buddies with Putin for personal gain. If we had followed the Budapest Memorandum our response would have looked like Desert Storm pushing Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait.
aug 19, 2025, 12:10 pm • 9 1 • view
Where are the sanctions?!
aug 19, 2025, 11:29 am • 3 0 • view
We have been sanctioning Russia
aug 19, 2025, 11:51 am • 1 0 • view
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aug 20, 2025, 5:31 am • 0 0 • view
Really !
aug 19, 2025, 9:44 am • 2 0 • view
Who knows what he whispers in Trump's ear when they're alone. And who knows what Trump imagines and concocts. Trump lies so much, it's hard to know what he thinks is true and what he's intentionally lying about.
aug 19, 2025, 2:19 pm • 0 0 • view
But what can you say after you’ve met with the orange 🍊 man who cannot find the president of Finland sitting in eye shot?
aug 19, 2025, 3:46 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m struggling to understand the confidence in anything Trump agrees to. He has no integrity, and Putin has shown over and over again that Trump’ words mean nothing. Why would signed agreements make a difference?
aug 19, 2025, 8:22 am • 206 11 • view
Because the rest of the world has to pretend to take Trump seriously in case he puts 1000% tariffs on them in a fit of deranged pique.
aug 19, 2025, 11:40 am • 1 0 • view
Particularly since there already IS a signed treaty in place, which is supposed to guarantee Ukraine’s security and her territorial integrity, but is being ignored by both Russia and USA as signatory countries to date. Why trust them now? *cough* Budapest *cough*
aug 19, 2025, 12:41 pm • 6 1 • view
This is totally where I’m coming from. You know, how they did their part and we aren’t. We know what Putin wants, and we know Trumpty isn’t able to say no. We just don’t know all the reasons why for sure. (I’ll bet it’s worse than we could imagine.)
aug 19, 2025, 2:38 pm • 2 0 • view
For a guy who had someone else write a book about deals so he could put his name on it, Trump really sucks at making deals.
aug 19, 2025, 9:08 am • 7 0 • view
Because they have little choice but to keep working with him.
aug 19, 2025, 12:26 pm • 1 0 • view
I think there are choices, it will take stout hearts and cooperation between most nations to cut at the heart of the matter of tariffs. More free trade between nations while leaving the US out of those sweet deals. Trump wants a piece of every pie, that is the entire problem
aug 19, 2025, 4:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Best they can hope is our courts strike down the illegal use of this tariff nonsense when there is no emergency, and the changing of power dynamics in Congress next year. Till then, hang together or each hang alone.
aug 19, 2025, 5:01 pm • 0 0 • view
It will be bad if America has to repay the illegal tariff money, we think the debt is bad now 😳
aug 19, 2025, 5:02 pm • 0 0 • view
I dont think you understand how tariffs work. perhaps? We already pay those ourselves. They are a tax on Americans, and not the exporters. Thanks for the chat - bye now.
aug 19, 2025, 5:08 pm • 0 0 • view
That’s right, my bad… ☮️
aug 19, 2025, 7:08 pm • 0 0 • view
They have no choice but to work with him, no matter how they go about doing so. That is the reality, whatever jumping up& down, through hoops, with elbows thrown up, or knees bent. It is a very bad place to be, & they have shown themselves mostly unwilling, until yesterday, to show a united front.
aug 19, 2025, 4:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Because the US still thinks of itself as pro Europe, anti Russia, pro NATO. Trump can insult Zelenskyy for supposed rudeness, but he can't do that to the whole of NATO.
aug 19, 2025, 8:41 am • 44 3 • view
But he has been weird against the entirety of NATO. Both he and hos cronies. On numerous occasions.
aug 19, 2025, 8:46 am • 47 0 • view
And NATO have indulged him. If they insulted him back it would give them an excuse to break away. But they've kowtowed (at least visibly), increased defence spending etc. So the regime aren't being given an excuse to justify breaking with NATO.
aug 19, 2025, 8:52 am • 35 2 • view
Also goes deeper than this, in that the more EUr invests in their defence, shows unity and cohesion and is fit for purpose, the more the US wants to control NATO. This, after all, is the very history of NATO which led to its forebear WEU being abandoned as the US sulked about not being included!
aug 19, 2025, 3:50 pm • 2 0 • view
The US will inevitably loose control over Europe. Trump et al. are accelerating this process.
aug 19, 2025, 3:56 pm • 1 0 • view
Well, yes but for instance they still wanted to appoint SACEUR earlier this year. But will happen as EUr can't be anchored to the imploding US. Won't want to be tarnished with proto-fascism and VVP fanboy policies. Will hold off as long as possible to milk US but suspect as Trumpski runs in 2028 😉
aug 19, 2025, 5:41 pm • 1 0 • view
Or one of his henchmen. If there will be any more real US elections after this.
aug 19, 2025, 5:51 pm • 2 0 • view
Ehm. Yeah? The point was that he can indeed behave offensively weird in relation to NATO.
aug 19, 2025, 8:55 am • 2 0 • view
Yeah. But "That's just Trump being Trump." But while NATO holds together, it would be a stretch too far for Trump to be seen to be aligned with Russia rather than NATO. The rest of NATO has basically made clear that UKR sovereignty is important, and this prevents Trump backing Putin "for peace".
aug 19, 2025, 9:15 am • 7 1 • view
Yes. This is why he will not declare war on Ukraine, as per the historic Molotov Ribbentrop deal. Backing away from any direct support to Ukraine and easing sanctions, though. He will obfuscate and squiggle as much as he can to help 🇷🇺 . I think he wrongly thinks they’re useful against 🇨🇳.
aug 19, 2025, 9:27 am • 7 0 • view
That MAGA (R) some how think they can peel off RU to orientate v CN at the expense of EUr, NATO and thus, UA is the underlying fundamental strategic error in WH thinking. Imagine it has been cooked up simply to articulate and cover Trumpski's bromance for VVP. Whatever, it won't go anywhere sound.
aug 19, 2025, 3:55 pm • 2 0 • view
Agreed. This is the only explanation I have been able to construct with what little evidence is there in terms of actual action. It will come to naught of course since the US are very much inferior to the Russians and Chinese when it comes to these games.
aug 19, 2025, 4:00 pm • 2 0 • view
On the basis of what I've seen, there's nobody in the regime who's capable of grand strategy. Everything is secondary goals leading primary by the nose.
aug 19, 2025, 5:40 pm • 1 0 • view
I think Putin just has a hold over him.
aug 19, 2025, 10:54 am • 0 0 • view
I don´t really care. The only thing that is interesting is what the US (and everyone else for that matter) does. Not what they say. The US are full of hot air. And its not just Trump. If the US suddenly decides to play in the blue team again instead of their own weird soap, I will reconsider.
aug 19, 2025, 11:15 am • 2 0 • view
EU defence industry is now disentangling itself from the US. These things take time. Starmer and the F-35 now exposed as stupidity.
aug 19, 2025, 10:14 am • 30 3 • view
Indeed. The UK should have ordered more Eurofighters, which it builds.
aug 20, 2025, 1:56 pm • 1 0 • view
Yes that is a bit of ”Airstrip 1” thinking right there.
aug 20, 2025, 2:04 pm • 1 0 • view
Starmer's doubling down on F-35s is simply incomprehensible.
aug 20, 2025, 2:01 pm • 0 0 • view
Long term projects. The USS allowed UK top access during development of the F-35. The UK builds 15% of each and every F-35. The UK also builds the Eurofighter. The UK, far from being stupid, is currently building a next generation fighter with Japan and Italy.
aug 22, 2025, 10:13 pm • 2 0 • view
Very clever indeed. Let’s just hope nothing happens to the F35s while waiting on that other new fighter.
aug 22, 2025, 10:42 pm • 2 0 • view
What do you think is going to happen to the F-35s?
aug 23, 2025, 9:30 am • 0 0 • view
Interesting ottawacitizen.com/public-servi... We don't still know what the Swiss have planned?
aug 23, 2025, 9:54 am • 0 0 • view
Why wait. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JA... The stealth capabilities F-35 are overrated, according to the Chinese! And the future of the piloted fighter is a swarm of robotic wing-buddies. Which IMHO can be retrofitted to any modern fighter.
aug 23, 2025, 9:05 am • 0 0 • view
The Gripen, Rafaele & Eurofighter - three expensive to design planes that, although slightly different, serve a similar purpose. This is Europe’s expensive problem of duplication. Two next gen fighters… -UK, Italy & Japan -France, Germany & Spain
aug 23, 2025, 9:28 am • 0 0 • view
Exports...
aug 23, 2025, 9:49 am • 0 0 • view
The Chinese are unlikely to ever say anything else. Why would they?
aug 23, 2025, 9:22 am • 1 0 • view
Perhaps American overconfidence in their own impunity. One is reminded of the U2 programme until Gary Powers...
aug 23, 2025, 9:50 am • 0 0 • view
Starmer is linking 2nd tier nuclear defence w. F-35! What goes around comes around! "The UK had decided to base its entire 1960s deterrent force on Skybolt, and its cancellation led to a major disagreement between the UK and US, known today as the "Skybolt Crisis". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAM-87_...
aug 23, 2025, 8:56 am • 0 0 • view
I’m not sure what you mean by ‘what goes around comes around’ ?! We’re expanding our nuclear capability to the air, rather than merely using subs. We’ve had US trident for years. The F-35 was, in part, designed in collaboration with the UK. - Long term projects that will out-live Trump.
aug 23, 2025, 9:14 am • 1 0 • view
Trident has not proven reliable recently www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-6835... And unless we know, we can nuke Washington DC. It's not really independent. The French OTOH...
aug 23, 2025, 9:46 am • 0 0 • view
I’d say we’re more open about our failures than say, the Russians or Chinese. Fact is, all nations have failures like this. It’s normal. It is an ageing system though, hence the move to airborne nukes.
aug 23, 2025, 4:35 pm • 1 0 • view
The reference is to an air launched nuclear rocket proposal that ended in tears...
aug 23, 2025, 9:44 am • 0 0 • view
Ahh, I see.
aug 23, 2025, 4:36 pm • 1 0 • view
www.bbc.co.uk/news/article... US made bombs... A domestically or EU fighter with EU nukes is credible in a post America First world.
aug 23, 2025, 8:56 am • 1 0 • view
A better phrase would be “they’ve humored him.” When exactly does his daily sundowning begin and what meds is he on for that?
aug 19, 2025, 12:26 pm • 2 0 • view
It would be a great relief if he would just pull out the US from NATO. We would accelerate our domestic defense industry much quicker. The US should not receive a dime.
aug 19, 2025, 5:14 pm • 1 0 • view
"Friendship with Saruman is not lightly thrown aside."
aug 19, 2025, 5:35 pm • 1 0 • view
because the orange diaper wearing genius thinks that he looks like a badass with his girly fingers on the launch codes. 😖
aug 19, 2025, 2:08 pm • 1 0 • view
One of his flunkies lost his head completely against me. I've a background in loss prevention inventories analysis in retail I'm a civilian against a supposed special forces inventories weapons guy. That was doomed to me being dubbed as a dry hole along with how I knew certain names.
aug 19, 2025, 12:08 pm • 0 0 • view
IOW, bullies comply when outnumbered.
aug 19, 2025, 10:38 am • 1 0 • view
Not to mention the pedoph1le activity. Looking forward to the Epstien files
aug 19, 2025, 12:48 pm • 1 0 • view
It's a valid point and any agreement would clearly be met with cautious optimism and hope rather than certainty and a firm expectation that the obligations will be adhered to. However it's better than nothing and also potentially anchors future US administrations.
aug 19, 2025, 9:19 am • 3 0 • view
The EU leaders have no faith in Trump at all, but this a formalising exercise and when it crumbles the world will be left in no doubt who the bad faith actors were. Putin AND Trump.
aug 19, 2025, 11:34 am • 2 0 • view
The only paper with Putin's name on it that would guarantee any level of peace will be his death certificate. Probably one of the most looked forward to obituaries in recent history.
aug 19, 2025, 1:14 pm • 6 1 • view
I can think of another that competes for that honor.
aug 19, 2025, 5:40 pm • 1 0 • view
That one would just help peace at home.
aug 19, 2025, 6:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Won’t workbut it looks good. Angling for the Nobel prize. Thinks whatever he and Vlad talked about is going to work. Methinks…no.
aug 19, 2025, 6:42 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s fine. I doubt anyone actually even takes a single word #dearleader says seriously. IMO the lesson is to imagine the worst possible outcome & then expect it to be even worse than that.
aug 19, 2025, 11:49 am • 1 0 • view
Exactly.
aug 19, 2025, 1:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Also last time they didn't work either.
aug 19, 2025, 2:26 pm • 0 0 • view
And even if he said any of those things they would not be true because he is a liar through and through.
aug 19, 2025, 6:26 pm • 0 0 • view
The only major global leader you should believe less than Tru is Pu.
aug 19, 2025, 1:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Exactly!!!
aug 19, 2025, 1:01 pm • 4 0 • view
Putin made a big fool out of Donald Trump, and he's trying to strut around like he's a know-it-all and big man winner! 😠
aug 19, 2025, 1:03 pm • 3 0 • view
It's what he always does after a humiliation. We're sick of it.
aug 19, 2025, 1:11 pm • 4 0 • view
Donald Trump is the worst person to ever be in the Oval Office! It's just scary what could be going on!! 😲
aug 19, 2025, 2:50 pm • 2 0 • view
Agree.
aug 19, 2025, 2:56 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m glad you listen. You are absolutely right. He is a cunning dictator intent on taking Ukraine and nothing less. Trump has no right to discuss giving Putin any territory from Ukraine.
aug 19, 2025, 3:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Both premature & delusional: Putin can’t feed his peasants without Ukraine grain: even boy-raping Putin knows what happens to Russian despots who can’t feed the peasants…Putin needs this war & needs what his broken state can’t do for itself: grow food…sad
aug 19, 2025, 2:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Ukraine needs to join NATO.
aug 19, 2025, 1:37 pm • 0 0 • view
Neither has he ever said the opposite
aug 19, 2025, 1:28 pm • 0 0 • view
Absolutely. And keeping Crimea, an outrageous ask of the Ukrainians in itself, is much *less* than Putin has demanded.
aug 19, 2025, 10:33 am • 3 0 • view
Don't entirely agree. It would be good to have comprehensive security guarantees drawn up now as it would define the current unjust behaviour of Russia. It would also present the possibility to execute them retrospectively.
aug 19, 2025, 11:39 am • 2 0 • view
Made same security guarantees in the 90’s look how well that turned out
aug 19, 2025, 9:27 pm • 0 0 • view
This exactly. Cart well before the horse at this point
aug 19, 2025, 11:32 am • 1 0 • view
This should be clear to everyone. I think all these discussions are just for Trump's "benefit" so that he (as the only one) thinks progress is being made, and will be very disappointed with Putin when Putin turns the new proposals down. None of the other leaders can actually think this will work.
aug 19, 2025, 8:49 am • 4 0 • view
AMEN TO THAT!!!
aug 19, 2025, 12:27 pm • 1 0 • view
Ex KGB wants war. Totally out classes the “Master Deal Maker” who’s true abilities (or lack thereof) show clearly.
aug 19, 2025, 12:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Even if he did say it why would we believe him. same with trump.
aug 19, 2025, 12:16 pm • 1 0 • view