"You should hold your nose and vote for my favourite candidate regardless, even if it means sacrificing your human rights" types are always very quiet about what they'd be willing to sacrifice personally, it's always someone else who has to give up something, isn't it?
Let's all be puppets to a duopoly that doesn't give a shit about people but can send bombs to murder children. This is evil.
There are people who'll talk endlessly about the virtue of throwing yourself behind the lesser evil, but you just know if the lesser evil was someone they personally didn't like, they'd never support them publicly.
That’s how you get a conservative government that’s what happened in America twice
Because they haven't had to sacrifice anything in their life before.
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Listen to Historians, don't repeat mistakes unless you have to. youtu.be/Qe23_qFDd4c?...
Listen to the Historians. Learn from the mistakes of others. Don't repeat mistakes. youtu.be/lcDpblwToQo?...
@caseyexplosion.bsky.social B-b-but my Democrat candidate is sassy! He calls out the bullshit! He’s an ally! *conveniently doesn’t call out the known TERF/terrorist/nazi when interacting with them* Uhhhh bsky.app/profile/jpof...
Christ...
Like, this was such an easy one, he regularly claps back and gets “sassy” towards the easy target Republican politicians and Trump, but when it’s a repeated offender grifter/terrorst/terf, suddenly he’s got writers block on how to make a clever dunk on them? Come on now…
Ah, yes, a purity test. How do you reach their supporters if you refuse to interact? You do not. You allow the lies to fester.
“Reaching their supporters” Their supporters are Nazis so the answer is, you don’t?
They also always seem to be extremely disparaging towards the intelligence of the "working class" to understand or empathize with the kinds of issues they want you to compromise on.
Somehow it's still always someone else's fault. "Well, I would support your rights, but Americans/poor people/whatever hate queers oh well."
Liberals center their feelings so much they believe their feelings are more important that other people's lives.
frankly we need to get better at calling these people what they are they're not motivated by strategy, they really are just racist, transphobic, hate homeless people, etc letting them pretend they're motivated by winning elections and have no choice gives them deniability
I don't want much. Good, free healthcare & food for all, decent housing, education, equal & fair treatment for aa, no more anti-LGBTQ bs, no more bigotry, no ICE, no profiling. DEI is needed as stupid ppl still exist & need told what's right. I will vote for whoever comes closest to delivering that.
Shitlibs / BlueMAGA are the worst. I just call them Vichy Left
Yup - sacrificial lambs to keep them safe - like offerings to Moloch
I got told by randoms that I should vote for Labour to stop the tories and I'm like but they're gonna make it harder for myself and others to transition...Why would I vote against my own interest because 'they're less bad' ?
This was back during the previous UK election so it wasn't fully known just how miserable Labour would turn out to be.
It was obvious they'd be this bad to anyone who was listening to what they said during interviews. It was wall to wall bigotry, racism, and dreams of a green & pleasant land. Frankly anyone who tells you different wasn't paying attention.
Or just blatantly lying 😆
Yep. They make their demands, and expect you to obey. "You have to vote for this group to stop that group!" But they share the same views? What exactly are we stopping? Gotta stamp out runaway decency, huh? Thanks but no thanks, Hedley.
Unpopular people are you like us and tired of the media and social media influencers getting all the attention and never acknowledging you or your voice about situations that you’re in or just having your voice heard. That’s why it’s so important for us to unite so no voice goes unheard. You matter
It is why I am in some ways glad everything is on fire. Dems seemed to be pitching “what if only trans people and Gaza were on fire?” Far too much for comfort. When everyone is in the frying pan, we focus on the heat, instead of how crowded the pan is.
I'll vote for these transphobic right-wing democrats all right.... vote 'em most likely to be kicked the bonch.
All true! We DO need to decide on someone to back, though, instead of just declaring who NOT to back.
My vote was definitely a vote to try to protect your rights as much as possible.
ive even tried a slightly different tack with them, just saying "hey, maybe dont cast people being impacted by this shit as whiny babies if you want something from them?? maybe meet them where theyre at and acknowledge their grievances and show up for them, maybe youll be more convincing???"
but even thats met with "OH SO YOU WANT FASCISTS TO WIN???" like christ almighty theyre completely unwilling to acknowledge the harm their candidate does. if they do, they demand we accept it and wont even make a hollow promise to push back on them, its so frustrating
They want to go back to brunch. They only care now because the facism is coming for them, so now they want to jump on the first thing so they can get back to brunch and not caring
They want to be able to hide in their privilege
Bernie Bros and Corbyn Bros yelling at people to bend the knee isn’t gonna get us anywhere, bro.
Scratched liberals incoming
Last year, I saw cis white male socialists tell trans people they needed to sit out the election and sacrifice their safety, their rights, and their lives because it was more important to send a message to eStAbLiShMeNt DeMs
"Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make!"
No, you should not sacrifice your human rights, but also, even if liberals are not constantly talking about your issue, "live and let live" is better for you than Trumpism, which will put you in a concentration camp for not conforming with their ideals.
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youtu.be/3NIwH4nKaDg?.... I strongly recommend that you follow a few Historians.
Every damn time. It's why I'm not so gentle in my views. There's never a sacrifice on their part, only ours. If we ask them to make a sacrifice, in come the death threats, and worse.
I'd be lying if I claimed to know anything about Irish politics, but are y'all also suffering from illusion-of-choice leadership syndrome? This timeline sucks :/
It annoyed me how they ignore the issues when it’s the same candidate doing awful things. I get not wanting the bigger evil to win, but then to never criticize them and to try to push for better change. It lead to less standards overall and accepting the bare minimum as the most they can do.
This underlies what’s happening in the US now. Many have gone so far left they wound up far right fascist adjacent!
They’re all about one mean skeet away from “See? You made me be a nazi!”
YUP
The US has a primary system. Why not just vote for someone better that doesn't require you to give up anything?
For one the person you're replying to doesn't live in the United States. For another, just look to New York and Mamdani to see what happens when we 'just vote in the primary' and get someone who isn't terrible by a sheer miracle
When it's quomo or some other evil dumbfuck we're told to hold our noses. When it's Mamdani it's all hands on deck to make sure he doesn't get elected. 'Blue no matter who' goes right out the window so fast it will make your head spin
She is talking about US politics right now isn't she?
I mean you can simply look through the thread to see how this applies to literally every democratic system. We're all told to hold our noses in the interest of capital rather than our own or those of our loved ones. Not sure why you'd assume a non American would be talking exclusivity about USA
I don't know maybe I'm wrong. This seems to be about gavin newsom.
There are a bunch of votes in Europe next month. OP doesn't appear to be from the USA.
If we can’t fix what’s going on “at home” by voting for progress we will NEVER fix what’s going on abroad.