Nah the voters did their jobs

Why are you debating me? I volunteer locally for dems and the turnout is atrocious

I’m not debating you I’m correcting you. Democrats, once elected, refuse to do their jobs. That lowers voter turnout. Better Dem politicians would attract better volunteers and create better voter turnout.

Bold statement. What, exactly did they refuse to do? How, (under our current framework) are they supposed to do it?

They failed at the bare minimum of defending the Constitution. If they did their jobs in 2021 Trump and a hundred or so (at least) of his accomplices would be in prison instead of in Congress, SCOTUS, and the White House. And that’s before we get into their massive policy failures.

Huh? 2021? The post insurrection impeachment? Who was in charge back then? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't the dems.

Who was president in 2021?

Trump was. Until Jan 20th.

And then?

Allow me to introduce you to the filibuster and "unanimous consent " Derided 21-24, and the only thing that's barely protecting us now. We can cover our corrupt Supreme Court another time.

Agree but my educated friends even say “ when the elections are over, we don’t have to talk about politics”. So no follow up on reps or demands and accountability

Sounds like you have shitty friends

No. So many people do not want to get involved. Half the country

Half the country has no one willing to represent them. The far right extremist 30% get represented by Republicans and the 20% juuuust to their left get the Democrats. The other 50% have no political home. Our democracy is broken because only the right wing nut jobs get represented in government.

You need to talk to someone else.

K, just remember that the Dem bashing will continue until Democrats stop being polite Republicans.

Ds have won some specials by 50 point swings. they are not having problems with turnout. it might help to read the piece?

It might help if they ran a candidate with some actual charisma on top of the ticket....you know, ike BHO.

they are not having trouble winning elections! ffs. they are crushing Rs in special elections, over and over again. they are way up in polls. the problem is not elections! the problem is what happens between them!

if you don't want to read the piece that's fine, but my interest in talking to people who want to respond without actualy thinking about what I said is pretty low!

Cool, are they achieving anything? Election wins are ok, if they don’t work to create fundamental changes then it’s not impressive.