the most baffling part of school in the 2020s to me is that parents are actively communicating with their kids and teens all throughout the day. why is this needed at all, don’t parents get tired
the most baffling part of school in the 2020s to me is that parents are actively communicating with their kids and teens all throughout the day. why is this needed at all, don’t parents get tired
Helicopter parenting is evil and infantilizes children
Perhaps if you made up truthful, factual propositions, you wouldn't have to argue meaningless points. Parents don't do this. We have better things to do.
They do. These same parents will force their kids to text them 50 times an hour and then complain how they never get any breaks from being a parent.
my kid doesn’t have a phone yet and i only email her if i have to. she sends me complaints about her classmates being annoying though. i do not want to text her all day! that is bonkers!!
when I was in school our parents got an email every single evening with our grades and that was enough stress on me. texts and calls would be ignored for sure
I thought school was a place where you could put kids so you don’t have to worry about thrm
it was SOOOOO fucking annoying to have a kid be like, "hey JLaw I have to take this, my mom is calling," and I'm, I don't know, mid-fucking-extremely-important-assignment-explanation I asked them all to share their schedules with their folks - talk during break. It's the fucking parents, man.
(and it's not like I can call their stupid cling-film mom and ask her to explain the assignment to her child, because I sure as shit don't want to do that again - which I did anyway because I'm a nice person)
I teach kindergarten and a lot of my kids have watch phones and they don't know any better so when it rings they immediately pick it up. So I am frequently trying to tell parents and grandparents to stop calling during class.
I don't entirely understandhowbthe culture went from "I don't know where my kids are they'll come home when they're hungry" to this. I understand a lot to the individual steps, but I'm still not clearly how we got here.
Over correction it would seem
The thing is that is now adult drink-from-the-hose kids imposing this.
I suppose I’d worry about school shooters nowadays if I was a parent. I can only assume that’s what this frequent active response thing is about.
ngl I would be on a netflix family annihilator special if my folks expected that
I had a kid hand me the phone and want me to talk to his mom in an interview. It abruptly ended
I'm 63 and the last thing my friends and I wanted was for our parents to know what we were up to 10-12 hours a day and our parents were fine w/it
It's all about control
Kinda like theyre constantly checking that their kid is still alive. Between shootings and bully beat downs, going to school is russian roulette.
About 150 people are murdered in school shootings every year. Out of about 17k firearms homicides.
Oh, "only" 150? 🙄 Yeah thatd be enough to worry over.
There are fifty million school age children in the United States.
Sometimes I really am glad that the worst I can say about my parents is that they were somewhat emotionally distant.
In my personal utopia, birth parents that wanna keep their whelps gotta do all the stuff adoptive parents have to do to prove they’re not psychos.
What do we do with all the kids whose birth parents fail? Well first we do something really nasty to those birth parents. Then idk, raise an army of multilingual sleeper agents to spread the queer agenda probably.
When I was starting elementary school in the late '90s, my grandma had me take a cell phone to school and was very upset to find out I wasn't allowed to use it. She would've loved this period of time, let me tell you
Parents should’ve never been trusted with children
I couldn’t even call my mother at school when I stayed home sick unless it was a dire emergency because she was a teacher and would have to leave her classroom and go to the office where the phone was. Adults talked to other adults if it was SUPER urgent and then relayed the message to the kid.
I had a cell phone in high school and if my parents called it was for an urgent emergency. I can’t imagine doing this
This is insane to imagine, but I think I would actually prefer it to the standard "my family has essentially no idea who my teachers even are" model, which I think of as normal
The other thing is that he’ll just take off on his bike and comes home and then I find he went like 10 miles with his friends. He’ll face time me from some crazy situation because he’s excited to share the craziness with me. So it’s like he’s free in a certain way even though he’s tracking himself?
I’m not initiating it. He yells at ME for not answering my phone. Not only does my kid keep tabs on me but also wants to be AROUND ME a lot. But isn’t it kinda arbitrary how a culture does it? Probably no ‘right way.’ People in some cultures are together a lot. Covid years may have changed kids.
As a parent with a child in their 20s, why would anyone need to text their child constantly? I mean I get that things can happen where you need to conact them ASAP. But several times a day every day is insane. Like let them develop themselves without your constant input.
When I was still in high school, I would text my Mom and Dad when I got to school (it's around 40 minutes to an hour away by public transport, so pretty reasonable), and they would either text or phone if I hadn't indicated that, sometimes text me during the day, but this shit sounds insane.
christ, they’re busy, leave them alone
Insecure parents? Separation anxiety? I wasn’t into stalking my child.
It's probably the biggest divide between my childhood and kids today. I didn't have a cell phone until I was 16 and could drive. Even when I had one, I didn't talk to my parents unless I was going to be out late. The expectation was that I would be reachable, not constantly in contact.
Cold day in hell when I give my 9yo one of these cursed electric rocks
My niece graduated last year but yes, my sister would actually get annoyed at how often she texts or calls her (and same now except when she’s at work instead of school)
i cant even imagine getting texts from my family all day during school. i would have ran away from home a thousand times
Mission control demands telemetry.
And we wonder why incest porn is big right now. Too many parents have dissolved the boundary between parent and child so they can become their kid’s buddy.
Parents are almost always the problem in any school situation. Every teacher I know that quit did it because they couldn't take the parents anymore.
Maybe it's just because 9/11 happened a week into my freshman year and my dad was the battalion PA and understandably a tad busy with various deployments, but he would have kicked my ass if I was texting him during the day 🤦♀️
As someone who went to school in the 2010s, what?
i just graduated highschool and i had to let my mom know what classes i had to put my phone up so that i wouldnt get in trouble for not responding. i think that phones should be put up in like phone cubbies but locking them away is insane
just checking in to make sure they haven’t been shot
This particular nightmare never even occurred to me. I had a secondhand Motorola startac i paid the plan for in high-school, & the idea that either i or my parents would use it to get in contact during the day without an emergency was incomprehensible. I know texting is different now, but still.
Man when I was a teenager if my parents were constantly keeping tabs on me by my phone I would "accidentally" lose it on a busy roadway And I wasn't even really up to anything as a kid; I just would resent it
The one guy in that thread whose whole argument seems to be "telling kids to do anything at all is authoritarianism" has me feeling bemused.
To add onto this, this is the default you start of with. In Pre-K the kid comes home and just makes up nonsense about what they did and you just accept it. So they later on introduced this idea of constant communication, but why?
the only phone communication i have with my kids is updates on practice times or if i'm late picking them up. and they can't use their phones except at lunch so it wouldn't matter anyway. the "ban" is a good thing
I see it all the time and it baffles me. I didn't want to talk to my parents when I was in highschool and had a phone. Leave me alone!
I just spent 4 days solo parenting my kids and found myself humming the harmony part to It's the End of the World as We Know It by R.E.M. (time I had some time alone) wistfully to myself. I'm exhausted.
TBH - My partner and I both look forward to dropping them off at school every day, lol
I graduated high school in 2006 and even I didn’t escape this. My mom especially dug her claws in and held on like grim death when I left for college in the far off land of Three Hours Away.
i graduated in 2007 and i think the only reason i managed to mostly avoid this is that my mom was too tech illiterate to learn how to text
When my kids were in hs I generally only texted them if there was a transportation change after school they needed to know about. ie, I'll pick you up, don't get on the bus.
I think digital communication turns relationships into parasocial relationships thus making these types of communications addictive in some way
Stupidly they get tired and then proceed to *not* monitor their kids or help when they need it most. Helicopter parent until they need you
helicopter ass Millennials
It shan’t be me I’ll tell you that much. I didn’t have a cell phone till I was 16 as god intended, and neither my parents nor I ever used it with one another lol
I've worked with a lot of people like this I was browsing tinder -> Get fired I was browsing tinder, but then also sent a text to my child, and you have to admire me for being a good parent also give me 5 minutes to see if they swipe right -> Great parent The parents have the addiction
Parents are desperately trying to distract themselves from the crushing indignity of their own lives, the sense of an entire life lived with a hollow core
classroom phone bans seem to be an issue where the bell curve meme is semi accurate at the very least. the most immediete reaction is negative but it seems to do wonders when actually in effect
This is insane. I'm a parent and was absolutely baffled to learn about this behavior. I could not fathom why the school district was messaging the phone ban as "Parents, you're not going to like this, but"
Some are probably looking to get their daily socializing fix from their kids instead of letting their kids be students.
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It has become a very serious problem lol Also a lot of parents talking to teachers the way they talk to service workers. edition.cnn.com/2024/03/18/o...
"Many parents, in other words, seem to want a reasonable balance: Kids who aren’t distracted in class, but have their phones in emergencies." I don't get it, can't you just call the principal's office or something
No. When the school is getting shot up, you don't want that call routing through the office.
I really think everyone involved has higher priorities than making calls
Critically important that when a kid dies they do so phone in hand yeah. I live in perpetual fear and need to make sure to spread that to those i raise.
You don't want them making any calls, you want them getting the hell out. Plus the networks are overloaded almost instantly unless you live in the middle of nowhere. Multiple kids have been shot trying to make calls and one was shot trying to record it.
I know teachers can’t beat students anymore, but maybe we can make it legal to beat the parents
I can think of a few I'd have loved to see rolling down some stairs, saying OW OW OW the whole way
parents were the worst part of coaching HS sports by a mile and it got worse each year. and i stopped coaching in 2020 so i cant imagine now.
Worst part of refing, too. And there was a ref shortage before 2020
It’s been twice as bad since coming back after the COVID shutdown. I think the isolation cooked some brains. We’ve had to hire extra security for games, and that wasn’t because of students.
Every PTA experience as described to me through friends is people screaming left and right about cultural signifiers and then no one raising their hand when asked who is going to raise money through a fundraiser for repairs lol
i coached until covid and starting in like 2013 we had to write up a letter for parents each season explaining that not being able to immediately reach their child via text or call for 2 hours a day bc they were practicing is not actually an emergency as they may remember from their own childhoods
if my kids went to school in the US I would be in a constant state of panic I think. Not sure if this is why they are doing it, but it would be why I was doing it.
if you were living in constant fear for your childrens' lives then the solution would be therapy not texts
or gun control. But I guess if you want to fire guns in the air like a fucking cartoon character and go to therapy that's up to you.
yea good point it’s definitely the posters on bluesky that want to shoot their guns in the air like fucking cartoon characters great point adam
this is a deep rooted sociopolitical issue that will require gun control AND individual-person therapy AND a mass deconstruction of cultural norms and generational traumas
i think this is true. fear of school shootings lies beneath everything for so many in the US. kids heading to college now were in their first days of kindergarten when sandy hook happened and i know i’ve never gotten over it. and i’m just a random mom, not someone who experienced it firsthand.
fwiw i do think when schools put phone boundaries in place it’s so healthy for both kids and parents, partly because of this fear that we are constantly managing
That makes sense. Phones can just amplify anxiety.
The only way to prevent school shootings is to text my child 300 times per day. This number actually would have been doubled if I hadn’t texted my baileigh 1,200,000 times per day. I’m single-handedly upping the average, you’re welcome
This. I think it's kind of disingenuous to ignore the fact that parents are scared, and kids NEED to be able to contact emergency services in the case of a shooting. This is far more complicated than just "cell phone addiction bad"
288 over 9 years and 50 states, that's one school shooting per state every 1.36 years if I'm mathing right. There have not been any mass shootings in Scotland since dunblane.
1 in 60 kids in the US will be at a school when a school shooting takes place. That's one day between the ages of 3 and 23. Kids need access to their phone in case today is that day. They do not need you texting them multiple times an hour.
Yeah, texting your kid is just gonna cause a notification that gives away your kids location
good thing I'm not a fucking seppo then, hey?
Why did you make this post
Yeah but texting your kid "are u still alive" every hour doesn't really prevent school shootings.
If anything, it likely encourages them
This is the excuse used to cover the fact that American parents have developed weird parasocial relationships with their own kid. I mean you can even include this, your kid is far more likely to grow up with a bad AI powered education than experience a shooting. Not that we don't need gun control.
I think the person you're replying to is giving a bad excuse (a few hundred shootings over a decade is bad but we're talking out of over 100k schools in the US). But I did want to mention that a parent and kid in constant one-on-one contact are definitionally NOT in a para-social relationship.
You're right but it does trigger the same thing in my brain when I see people being weird online about celebs. Phones have given parents access to so their kid and everything about them so quickly, it's easy to forget how much more private a kid's life was 25 years ago.
I have 3. I'll sometimes text my kid if I need to know something, usually food or schedule related. He'll sometimes get back to me at lunch. I don't know of any parents who do that "hundreds of times" in a day. Calling bullshit.
My kids are only in elementary and middle school, but the time they are at school is a needed break for all of us haha
This is one thing I'm actually alright with. I don't think kids should have cell phones in school at all, the only argument for it I've ever heard is in case of shooters. Otherwise they're a nightmare
Modern parents would hate me as a kid, I would like never respond to my parents. Like my mom literally called the cops one night cause instead of coming home after work I went to my bosses house to play Halo an left my cell phone in my car lol.
My parents almost called the cops one night when I didn't get home until 11pm or so I didn't have a cellphone and didn't have change on me for a payphone Mind you I was 19 or 20 and in college at the time Really made me regret not going to a school in another city
On one hand, I love talking with my kids, on the other, I hope they never text me more than 4x in a day
cant blame them, if anything, it's just a symptom of how dog shit our entire society is, that literally all schools are easy to get to targets for violence from lack of gun control
They want to be their kid's best friends
I love my children but I don't want to talk to them 24/7! They need a break from us as much as we need a break from them
Dont the parents have jobs???
when they're not also full-time helicopters, perhaps.
I wonder if many are still working from home post-COVID. There's no boss there to see if they aren't constantly on their phones.
I can guarantee ( from experience) that these are parents who IM their staff and pretend it's work, all day, every day.
I’d imagine many of them are displaying the same work ethic they’re instilling into their children
Wow that’s insane
Yeah, my kids see and hear enough of me as it is. Fuck that shit. Lol
i graduated HS in '03, so kids having their own cell phones was relatively new, they were still T9 (if they could even text), no camera/internet, if you got caught using one in class they took it away until the end of day and a parent told the school to give it back. we still managed to get high.
sorry, i misremembered... back then it was still mostly "multi-tap," not T9...
Two of mine went through school before phone bans. One was trapped in the bathroom by bullies and called me. I called the school and then later had a nice wee chat with the bullies. I want my kids to be able to contact me. Any time. Anywhere.
Are you interrupting class?
Do you have school age kids?
That would be a yes then. Your examples were reasonable and non disruptive, and don’t require hassling kids in class time, but clearly you’re a problem too. You don’t value your kids learning time enough, and you’re disrespectful of teachers.
So, no kids then. You got confused. I don't care about your opinion. Hope that helps 👍
You're being really rude in response to horrible stories. A non-verbal kid outside of the school yard & unaccounted is my biggest nightmare as an E.A. We don't get good policy without taking situations like this into consideration. Insulting a mom who's enduring bullying is twitter style b.s.
She’s defensive of her poor behaviour and using irrelevant examples to cover for it
Oh. You're confused. I don't actually care about you opinion.
Go back to Twitter troll. You're getting the block.
One time that happened to me in middle school and I tried to fight my way out of the bathroom
One was punched in the face on the bus & bus driver made them both get off at their normal same stop. Left my kid unprotected. Ongoing failure of the school system to address bullying. Eventually pulled all my kids out and they finished/will finish school online. We are in a "good" school system.
Youngest got out of the playground fence and walked away from the school. Had on a tracker watch. Called through the watch so I could listen/see if he was OK (had video & audio). I was able to locate and find him before the police ever made it to the school. Non-verbal five year old.
When do you plan on letting them develop skills that allow for their independence and personal growth?
I think a nonverbal 6 year is still squarely in the realm of needing their parent. Them wandering off school grounds ALONE is a literal emergency. And a as parent of a kid who's bullied, when they call you respond. Violence doesn't help a kid grow.
That’s why students and classrooms have behavioral aides. That is something that the school should be sued over as it’s a major failure of the basic responsibilities. That said, it does not indicate that children should be using phones in schools at all.
Parents should let their kids have the space to grow and handle their problems on their own. It’s scary, I know, but it’s necessary.
Lol. You got confused. I don't want or need advice on child rearing. I have a degree that is more valuable than random internet stranger advice on appropriate child development & parenting skills.
I wonder if the people who decide the benefits of a ban would outweigh the drawbacks have degrees in child development too?
Don't know much about school boards, huh? The answer would be, no. Hope that helps 👍
I do! And the principals, teachers, and administrators (all of whom have degrees in child development) I have discussed this topic with (repeatedly) all agree that they do! That phones in school are a detriment to learning and that parent’s fears are harming their students independence!
A teaching degree may have classes in child development but it is not a child development degree.
Question for you. Have you tried teaching thirty 14 year olds who have their faces in a screen all day and when you ask them to put it away they say “my mom/dad says you can’t make me?”
School and learning independence should not involve physical violence. Especially grade school. Get a grip.
You asked a mom when she planned on letting her kid develop independence when that was not at all applicable. As a classroom aide, there aren't enough of us and you should sue the system overwhelming classrooms, not the school. Anyhoo, this is obviously not the place for nuanced thought.
I can’t speak to the rest of the world, but behavioral aides are not a common thing in classrooms where I work and their job if they are a paraprofessional is to help students with disabilities, not be a bullying monitor. I don’t know of any school that has that.
We don't generally have parapro's here either, except in the state funded (not private) pre-K. To get a 1-to-1 aide is extremely difficult.
Private school explains a lot. The idea that a child with even a hint of elopement behaviors was allowed any where near a gate unsupervised is crazy. I was about to comment that the school sounds horribly run and should be examined, but you just cleared that up for me. Private schools are like that.
I never said any of my kids went to private school. And none of them did. Private Pre-K are in daycares and mean not state funded and there's no lottery for space. We are in one of the "best" school systems in the state.
Again, sue them.
I work in high school ID. I should give five of them in my classroom. I have two lol.
That is a problem, but not one that allowing students to have phones will solve.
I am a high school teacher and a high school parent, I see the phones in schools argument multiple times a year on social media. I probably shouldn’t have even commented because it ends up being one of the most toxic conversations always.
Our school system originally allowed phones under BYOT to bridge the gap before 1:1 tech had been fully implemented. One of the first in the state for 1:1 tech. Lucked out during covid because we already had tech in place.
If a nonverbal kid elopes off campus, that is definitely the fault of their classroom aide, teacher, and administrators.
Dear god *why*
I'm an older millennial for context but man, to me, school is/was supposed to be a place where young soon-to-be men and women get their first little taste of adulthood without their parents hovering over them
My kids are in their very early 20s (22 and 20) and even I don't understand this. I can count on one hand how many times I had to text either of my kids while they were in school. I'm not for phone bans but parents do need to let kids learn independence.
yeah like I barely have the energy to respond to coworkers’ emails every day on the clock, how are parents wanting to text their kids in the middle of geography
It's baffling to me as well. It's like a whole new level of helicopter parenting.
Agreed. I might text my son a question, but I've also made it clear that no message from me is ever worth getting in trouble at school. Texts are meant to wait.
School shootings. That’s why.
Yeah frankly we look forward to the time away from our children, and IMO it's also good for them to be apart from us and doing their own thing at school
im a grown man and my mom calls me like twice a day
I'm in my 40s and if I don't text my mom (or reply to her texts) before noon the next text I get will be "you okay?" 😐 I love you mom but sheeeesh
I like my mum, but that sounds like hell.
Yeah I talk to my mom every day and I’m turning 35 this year lol.
Twice is pushing it, but idk a daily call from your parents seems like they just want to communicate and have a good relationship.
my mom is awesome
you've been mompilled
On the one hand, I think part of this could be the result of the prevalence of school shootings causing parents anxiety if they don't hear from their kids. On the other hand, I can also say I know that this can be indicative of abusive or controlling parents.
Though, I do think that banning phones is maybe not the way to go given said prevalence of school shootings, and it doesn't do anything to help kids whose parents are so controlling. I'm concerned for the safety of these kids both at school and home.
I know teachers do
I... what? How can you have anything to say every day like that while your kid is at school?
No, I like my kids so it was nice to check in with each other at lunch
I've been teaching for 10 years. On numerous occasions a kid will flash their phone to me saying "my mom is here and wants me to come down" despite the clear procedure being parents need to go to the front office to check out their kid. It is really bad regarding kids, but parents are also complicit
Do the parents not have anything better to do with their time while the kids are at school? Go do some grown up stuff. Or some childish stuff without the kids, whatever
"back in my day, we had a tv ad that asked our parents if they knew where we were because we were out drinking hose water in traffic until the streetlights came on. And that's why I always call Timmy 20 times an hour at school now, to remind him mummy misses him"
My mom seems to be energized by calling me to complain about her coworkers and I can tell when she's more stressed than normal because she will call me multiple times a day.
I just have a toddler, but I know a lot of bigger daycares provide live feeds of their kids and I wonder how much that normalizes being constantly in connection with your child.
Fr, i have a super paranoid mom, but she barely calls me outside of emergencies, she basically just calls, asks "hey, uhhhh, are you still alive? Yeah, good to hear" and then waits until i come back home.
isnt the point of school being like oh good i dont i have to worry about them for several hours while im at work
I just want to send my kid memes every once in a while
this is so bizarre to see. phones were becoming a Problem when I was in school but it was never the parents causing it
I teach at a school that has a 0 phone policy (if it’s seen out admin is called and takes it). It makes a massive difference
You have to have an admin that doesn't spend all day hiding from teachers and students for this to work and IME as a teacher that is a big ask.
Idk why schools do 0 phone. Our policy was it stays away in class, and if you’re caught its taken for the day, but why restrict phone usage at break?
because students film other students constantly and use that footage to bully one another. It makes a huge difference when the students can go somewhere with less fear of being filmed doing something awkward
“Reduces Bullying” is not and has never been an effective reason for banning things. Even with our partial ban I got it plenty verbally. Phones made little to no difference, and for someone suffering harder bullying being able to write down whats happening to your parents could be useful for some
Banning phones for the day is the norm at schools where I live and even the kids prefer it that way
I don't know what to tell you, man. There is a growing mountain of studies saying that schools and learning environments are far better off with these zero tolerance policies in place.
Also we have locked pouches kids have to put their phone in and then can unlock it at the end of the day
Also I’m not someone that doesn’t believe technology has no place in the classroom. I love it when used responsibly which is why I am in favor of laptops that connect to the school internet which should have a heavy firewall
Right there with you. I was the last in my high school to support the cell phone ban. Technology can be super useful and not all kids abuse it. But it’s just too hard to manage in the tik tok and all parents text era
Don't they have jobs,? I was so grateful to go to the fucking office and not listen to my kid for five goddamn hours a day.
wait you guys were allowed phones in class over there?
Also have jobs???
I look forward to school BECAUSE it's 7 hours my kids aren't talking to me. I love them so much but yes, I do get fucking TIRED. Please debate whether Bloop is bigger than a hurricane with your classmates instead. How do you get home and tell mom about your day when your whole day was texting mom?
I don't text my kids hundreds of times, but of course we get tired. We're tired of constantly worrying if our children are going to get murdered at school. America has at least one mass shooting EVERY DAY, and a lot of those happen in schools. Yeah we're fuckin tired.
Helicopter parenting has entered into the connected age.+
I understand a single message during the day along the lines of "I'm at the grocery store, do you want me to get you anything?" However, checking on your kid more frequently than that is ridiculous.
why would any adult want to be friends with someone who has children in 2025 lmao
They have no friends or people they socialize with in life so they use their kids as their social outlet is my guess.
My kid can call me anytime but like, they don’t, and I certainly don’t require it, but it is nice that they are able to if they need. And being able to just text me rather than go use the office phone is just easier.
We are a society of contradictions
I don’t even know what kids talk about to be engaged with each other ALL DAY. My partner and I are caught up on life matters including gossip in like 15 minutes a night.
Abso-fuckin-lutely. I did not play that shit when mine was in grade school. How can they grow up if you're always thinking for them?
like my parents were, like. at work. when i was in school.
completely bonkers, if I had been getting a hundred texts a day in the middle of highschool I would have run away even earlier lmao
that phone would be at the bottom of a lake and my ass would be halfway around the world
my parents called me once on the cell phone they insisted I have with me at school and I turned it off for two years
My issue with phones in school versus back in my day? Hijinks! or the lack of them due to tiktok or whatever. We used to just do real live dumb shit at school. Was fun even.
I remember just calling my mom after I got home to inform her I arrived home (Both parents worked longer hours) Parents calling Kids at School?? For what??
I just can’t imagine it. I would have run away from home.
Me if I could call my mom without raising my hand and going to the office: "Mom, please come pick me up. I hate this place and I feel sick. Please?" Me when I went to the office: "Mom, please come pick me up. I hate this place and I feel sick. Please?"
I remember parents when I was growing up being so excited for summer to be over so they didn't have to talk to their kids for the whole day
the kids are the ones reassuring the parents in this behavior pattern
What are they even talking about?
You'd be surprised. Back when I was a kid and WAY BEFORE easy cellphone access, a neighbour who lived like us in front of the school would use binoculars to basically do surveillance on the teachers. So I wouldn't be surprised if some of today's parents use their kids as insider spies.
You're right. I am surprised. What an insane thing to do.
It was. One of the teachers actually started pulling down the blinds and she actually had the gall to complain to the principal lol
I’m baffled too. Phones weren’t allowed in class when I was in high school, right around when teens were first getting cell phones and we complained a bit (bc we wanted to text friends) but it was fine? Also kinda sad that they’re watching tiktok and texting their parents instead of their friends.
i feel like schools have been fighting a loosing battle against mobile phones ever since they first existed
The way teachers talk about parents make them sound like mob bosses. They have so much power over their own kid at the school that even taking a student's phone away can be a problem to them, teachers just stop bothering.
Where I live parents get live updates about grades, lunch and teacher messages throughout the day through an app. It's hell I tell you. They're forcing me to stalk my kid.
Seems like these parents are a bit paranoid.
What? Surely that's some local thing. Never heard of that going on at length during the day.
Definitely need a kill the computer on this
my schools special ed dept was completely gutted so my stay at home mom basically acted in place of a para 😶
Helicopter parents just got new tools
They went from helicopter parenting to drone parenting.
Is that teacher using DEI? **Strike initiated**
It's so crazy to me especially because my mom was a teacher so she usually couldn't even answer her phone during the day while I was in school, if there was an emergency I had to call the landline phone in her classroom
One of my coworkers has cameras installed in her apartment and sounds literally all day at work yelling at her kids from the camera speakers so its not far fetched to me
Whooooa this is hell.
That sounds pretty abusive ngl