Dems don’t win by getting cross-over Reaganites. They win by mobilizing the Democratic base in a Democratic Party that is still the majority party in the US…by quite a margin. open.substack.com/pub/davidrot...
Dems don’t win by getting cross-over Reaganites. They win by mobilizing the Democratic base in a Democratic Party that is still the majority party in the US…by quite a margin. open.substack.com/pub/davidrot...
Right? Please stop focusing on “winning over” MAGA voters.
It’s such a margin that we keep losing. Yeah.
What do the Dems *actually* want, @kenmartin.bsky.social and the @dnc?? And Have Always Wanted. 1) Respect 2) Authenticity 3) Humility 4) Honesty (not that it's 4th but just to make sure they didn't miss that this is *part of* the 1st 3) They are scoring 1/100 so far.
I think they want an actual democracy where oligarchs aren’t buying politicians from left and right? Where someone can get a full time job that actually pays them to get fed and housed comfortably? Where’s that on your list?
I appreciate your point, and am glad you asked. What you're discussing is very important, even crucial, to many of us. However, those are issues which are solved (🤞🏼) through Policy. Policy is 2 things- legislation and funding. Both come from Congress. I was talking about WHO we need to DO that.
Policy so far hasn’t raised our standard of living regardless of who’s in charge. You can talk about polysci theory til the cows come home but that’s gotten real human beings Jack shit. We need leaders who will take business out of government and take care of people or to take a page from the French
Well, I believe you've proven my point, young grasshopper 😎
Your point was get out the guillotines? At least we agree on something. Also I’m pretty sure I’m older than you.
2/ Everything in our advanced society is a multiplayer, multilayered, process. We need to build the solution by putting the strongest pieces together in the way they work best, and our job as Americans is to vote. To use our vote as our voice and our "piece" in the foundation of America's future.
3/ and we can start with a policy issue you mentioned: people finding housing. I'd like to be so bold as to start this conversation with the most needy in this area: the unhoused, especially unhoused U.S. Veterans. I think an honest, humble, respectful person would see this as a crucial issue.
Yep - there IS no policy for losers. It's Newsom or never.
Haha I'm not sure where Gavin got himself wedged into this discussion, but I know that each piece has a crucial function in the completion of the puzzle. And without every piece - the bland, the opaque, the oddly shaped, the "sea", the corners (unique and dynamic), the blank - there would be holes.
What did Trump run on? MAGA that's it. No policy. We have an illiterate nation that has an attention span of 6 seconds. Save Democracy. It's that simple. The winning platform is remove Trump Regime and reinstall a true democracy.
His voters aren't our voters. They never have been and they never will be. The Best soccer team and the best football team don't play on the same field. Unfortunately, at this moment in the American Experiment, we are only given those 2 choices to run the country. And who cares who they pick 🤷🏼
Agreed. 🤷🏼♂️
We're are a FN stupid society. We have to stop trying to give them 15 policy reasons when we have the most important one in our FN lap! DEMOCRACY - END THE TRUMP REGIME and REINSTALL A TRUE DEMOCRACY.
Stupid has several insinuations, and meanings. I'll assume you meant "stupid: without information" rather than "without the ability to form rational thought" or "unconcerned with thoughts or information due to inflamed ego". I'll leave you with some deep thoughts by our FIRST WOMAN SCOTUS JUSTICE
“Without basic civic education, we cannot expect to preserve or improve our system of government.” And also: “The practice of democracy is not passed down through the gene pool,” O’Connor once stated. “It must be taught and learned by each new generation.”
Good comment. I agree.
As well as attracting independents…still quite a bunch of us…
As an independent, I believe the issue with the DNC is messaging, no new ideas, no creative solutions. All I hear is Trump is Hitler, MAGAts are Nazi's. I know many will respond with anger, but it is true. I saw this on CNN. Not sure if it is true, because its Mainstream Media. But is it a trend?
magats ARE nazis and trump IS acting like hitler. It’s kind of a big deal. Dems also want healthcare for all, stopping the genocide in Gaza, saving Medicare and social security, voting rights, and equality, as well as many other things
That is exactly what Kamala ran on and did not win. How is doing the same thing again going to be different? It seems like the Dems have the same game plan every year.
Democrats- Infrastructure Bill, increase investment in green energy, healthcare reform, childcare support, freedom, follow science, etc. And the Republican new ideas to help the American people are? Please fill in the blanks.
I'm not republican, so I cannot fill in the blanks. What I have noticed: I live near the border; it is night and day difference after January. Where I live, gas, grocery and overall prices are down, not down to pre-2021 prices, but it is trending down. My dollar goes a lot further now.
I live near the border and grocery prices are up. Egg prices are higher, beef is higher, and imports more expensive. Since I boycott gasoline, I can’t comment about gas prices.
I've been saying this for years. It is a complete waste of time trying to convert the heathens. Democrats should spend all their time and money just getting their voters to actually vote.
YES!
THEY MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT ES&S OR THEY WILL LOSE EVERYTHING. HARRIS WON. HILLARY WON. IF THEY DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT ES&S, THIS WILL CONTINUE.
The voting ship has sailed. It’s not coming back. That was the last election we had a chance and I thinks those results were tampered with.
I will take converts and long time loyalists. Every warm body counts when you are at war. The folks who claim to be the “base” but need to be begged to vote are not going to save you.
This. It doesn’t matter if you’re the majority in the country, ideologically , if people don’t vote. In reality we’re a third of the country if you count reliable Democratic voters.
True!
THIS! STEP 1 FOR DEMS: Make sure you're keeping lifelong stalwarts like me happy! STEP 2 FOR DEMS: Figure out how to engage people who aren't registered AND those who are registered but don't vote. STEP 3 FOR DEMS: Stop worrying about: ANY GOP voters, so-called "independents," etc. See Step 1!
If every democrat voted we’d never lose another election!!!
SOMEONE please find out WHO the 1/3 who didn't VOTE are and reach out to them. Tell us who they are so we can reach out to them!! Quit relying on the 1/3 who voted and find the reasons for the 1/3 not voting.
That is what made me crazy about the Harris campaign. The excitement was at its peak with "prosecutor vs the felon" and by the end it was "tea with the Cheney's". Who the fuck was that for?? I'm glad Liz could draw the line at treason but she voted with Trump 93% of the time.
Putin's help works🤔
‘Straight up! ——— now tell me if you going to love me forever, or are you just having fun.’
Some things *must* fundamentally change from corporate globalism.
A lifelong Democrat here. This is too big for Democrats alone to whip. We will need every principled independent voter, and every non-MAGA Republican with a spine. We should, all of us together, be thankful for the support of those joining in the fight to return democracy.
The Democratic BASE IS BLACK WOMEN. Don't get that twisted.
To win the Denocratic base the party MUST get big 💰💰💰 out.
They win by uniting all the anti-Trumpers. MAGA works at dividing us, we need all hands on deck (for every corner of opposition) to defeat Fascism.
I swear I saw a data point on how many Registered Republicans that Kamala got with the last month of the Cheney Book Tour and I think it was about 0%. I don't understand why they keep falling back on winning those assholes over.
Maybe they'd prefer to do it that way because they love money
You are so right. If we just voted, we’re unstoppable. I’m not bragging but I haven’t missed an election in 50 years.
This is brag worthy though!
Right you are
Democrats have no leader at the moment they are feckless chaney and kizinger put up a bigger fight than this current caucus they should be ashamed at the crickets that come from them a house cleaning is needed and i hope democrat voters are taking names come election time
Ja wohl. House cleaning. Vernichtung! Ein Volk. Ein Reich. Ein Führer! Seig Heil
Anytime now would be great!🥺
Can we bury the fossils while we're at it? They're dragging us down.
Well, I don't know if I buy that. Bush the senior lost the election to Clinton and he ruled as a moderate
I wish I could believe that. Ever been to Florida?
Amen
So much truth here. I’m sick to death of the “you need to move to the center” BS. There are no voters in the center waiting for the D’s. And if you’re at all familiar with the Overton Window concept, it’s even more of a sick joke than it appears on first glance.
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obama showed them how it’s done in 2008 with yes we can
Then he was a complete letdown.
yes, the democratic party let us down. we got the bare minimum for our efforts. lol
“Let us down” is an understatement, they are complicit to fascism. They knew for years what was coming and generated no strategies of defense. Pathetic.
The polls for many years now show both parties even, both needing independents or crossovers to win. Registrations for young people is actually higher on the republican side. Incidentally, more young people are going to church. Right-wing media plays a large part in this.
Absolutely correct, chasing red state trash is why Democrats keep losing fuck those people
The Republicons know it!
And independents. Neither side can win without independents. But it's a waste to put effort into chipping off Republicans. Any Republicans.
And they do that by abandoning middle of the road politicians and supporting progressives.
MAGA is Reaganism without the facade of respectability.
One can hope….one can hope!
In a democracy that would be the case.
They better figure out how get back the ones they've lost.
Weird, shouldn’t the end of democracy be enough?
Leadership isn’t making that the issue. They’re treating everything that’s happening as distinct and imho they need to get a msg down pat that spells it out and hammers home the urgency.
Oh, they know, but as usual it’s just a voting tactic. They want to use all this as a bargaining chip come midterms in order to lock in their Establishment candidates. They are more afraid of what’s happening in New York more than anything else.
Dems of today aren’t trying to get Reaganites, they’re trying to please the donor class.
Realistically, it takes money AND bodies to get out the vote.
The problem is, what makes the donor class happy doesn't motivate people to vote. The GOP has solved this problem by using propaganda to convince people that helping the rich helps them.. which, of course, it doesn't.
If we don’t have a winning theme…try, try, and try again on slightly different themes.
Or do we need an altogether new paradigm?
The DNC's third way paradigm basically maintains the status quo economically. The end result is that we've been ratcheting to the right, economically, since Reagan. So.. yes, a new paradigm is needed.
This question baffles me. It's just so unfathomable that so many vote for Rs when: (1) they are literally the worst people on earth (selfish incompetent hypocrites), and (2) D policies are better for all but billionaires. But I get that stating that truth doesn't solve the problem.
Also, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that too much of it is just a "leading person" question, and the policies just don't matter as much as whether people enjoy the "character" of the candidate. That's tougher to handle, bc/ you can't manufacture that. Obama was captivating, other Ds, not as much
Yet it won them the three branches of government and we lost…🤷♀️
Or rather that throwing certain segments of the working class under the bus is the path to prosperity for the volk.
The only “volk” orange man respects are billionaires or those who might harm him (Putin). Everyone else is a “mark” to be used, manipulated, swindled, and eventually discarded or eliminated (Epstein, Dr. H. Bornstein, Ivana).
The problem is that too many Dems don't/won't vote so we need to win over, by a good chunk, the independents and they are proving hard to win over.
Thanks for this.
Thank you for everything you have done & continue to do, David.
It is too late for any of that. Arm up.
If you want Corporate $$ out of elections while they funnel $hundreds ofmillions to Republican candidates then you better open your wallets. Races cost $$ fact. Otherwise just like gerrymandering you must fight on the field as it’s legal to do today. We can create laws after winning Congress & WH.
The type of Dem that wins in NY & type that wins in IA is different. As a big tent accepting differences is part of that. The next 2 elections we need to fight against vote suppression of every type and we will need Indep voters & every person who realizes that the GOP wants to hurt ALL but 1%ers
Cool except so many headlines about how people, especially Black people, feel let down by the Democrats. And everyone’s mad they aren’t fighting harder. So if some of that is true I have a new flash. Look at your alternative and get on board the train. Support blue gerrymandering in response to red
You're still delusionally holding onto the old, dead world? How sad....
Politics is ruthless. Mobilizing to win has nothing to do with being more progressive, centrist or moving to the right. It's about strategy & messaging, doing what it takes. Leadership is key. Now, who do we think is being effective right now?
Tbf, the democrats in power, bar a few. seem closer to Reagan than the democrats of that time.. Get money out of politics would be my suggestion.
The majority of the USA is not democrat. The majority of the USA is apathetic non voters. They aren’t motivated by anything. Until the are affected they won’t do anything.
Tell that to every Democrat that runs anywhere. They don’t seem to get it.
That would require them giving a 💩 about what their own voters think. They’re riding a Blue No Matter Who wave using fear to get votes. That’s why we need to primary incumbents or it’s going to be same 💩 different day. We gave them a trifecta in 2020, they squandered it, then lost in 2022.
Dem campaign should be: Universal healthcare/public option Natl paid family leave Paid vacation Subsidized child/elder care U pre-k School meals Free instate tuition/trade schools (What civilian DoD employees & their families get). And, Modern mass transit Modern infrastructure
That's all great Policy. We have to win first. Only thing that matters is Democracy. America is fn stupid. We have to stop trying to give them 15 reasons when we have the most important one in our FN lap! DEMOCRACY - END THE TRUMP REGIME and REINSTALL A TRUE DEMOCRACY.
You win by having a popular campaign. What does “democracy” mean when there’s an electoral college and 51 GOP senators represent 20% of the population?
The popular campaign is Remove Trump Regime - Install Real Democracy 2.0 Or just have a different King. People say they don't like living under authoritarian rule. So they protested on No Kings Day. Then went back to work. They will not leave on their own. "Jan 6"
Removing Trump isn’t a policy that provides basic work/life benefits, programs or services that make the lives of working class people better. Democracy 2.0 means absolutely nothing. What does healthcare, childcare or higher education look like in Democracy 2.0?
I am not here to argue. In my responses, I emphasize the importance of addressing the issue at hand: stopping the militarization of our democratic cities and towns. If we succeed and manage to secure an election in 2026, we can work to restore democracy
There won’t be a Dem majority in the senate for decades. And Dems will get slaughtered again in 2026 because they don’t have anything to offer beyond whining about Trump. Pointing out the problems without offering solutions is whining. That’s what Dems are committed to doing.
Dems chose to normalize Liz Cheney and scrubbed “universal healthcare” & “public option” from their 2024 campaign in exchange for “access” to unaffordable for-profit insurance. Dems are committed to losing elections by lurching further to the right.
They need to embrace a progressive platform and they are not.
Cross over reaganites ARE the fucking democrats. Clinton is a Reaganite. ObamaCare should be called ReaganCare. Public subsidies for private insurance profits? Stop the fucking DNC train of idiocy. I want the fuck off.
I’m glad Liz Cheney doesn’t like 47, but I don’t want to hang out with her.
And the so called Independents. 25-30% of the voters. They swing like a rusty gate.
Yes, but if you get the Reaganites to stay home by "don't vote for evil" messaging it'll be a landslide, even in red states.
U right there. Unite the D party. Keep explaining the danger we r all in. Communicate. Fire up the base. Pick a strong , winnable candidate That's how U do it
The root problem is most of the Dem establishment are crossovers to the billionaire class and AIPAC.
…And mobilizing non-voters who were THE LARGEST GROUP in 2024…about 90 million or 36% of eligible voters!
Independents are the majority party. Investment-class Ds turned backs on the working-class in the 90s, funded with tax-breaks to offshore jobs their corporate donors and told workers to just go (blow) learn coding. This is why the D Party is shrinking. Independents are the majority for reasons.
Trump would imprison the winning team and take the cup for himself.
Dem party elite is enslaved to donors. Why they will follow what the base wants?
The DNC needs an ENEMA.
There's a difference between using ousted Republicans as a prop to give conservatives social permission to vote against Trump and pandering to them in order to appear centrist. Too many leftists don't realize that, as do too many establishment Dems from the opposite perspective
And they must vote. Even if it looks like we are winning by huge margins they cannot stand on the sidelines. They must vote.
Here Here !
Don't know why everyone ignores the 90+ million voters who never seem to notice the difference between Democrats and Republicans but this is shaping up to be a stellar moment to make them aware.
Fuck all this policy and caring shit. Yep - there IS no policy for losers. It's Newsom or never. You don't need a platform other than reinstall DEMOCRACY. JFC you're all gds
That's what Dems always say. Rah rah go dems we are more than Rs. Loss after loss. Better damn well recapture voting white, black, and brown males or it's another Hillary Kamala loss. Need every margin we can get.
I know quite a few people who did not vote because they were fed up with the weak Democratic Party and Palestine. I live in California
I know. But what we got was so much better for Palestine? I’ve had this argument and it pisses me off every time.
well then theyvsre complicit in the fascist downfsll of America. that totally helped Palestine 🙄
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Democrats need to vote in the biggest numbers ever.
And tell the ideologues to shut up, hold their noses, and vote.
Dems also win when they punch fascists in the throat. Not that I am bitter.
Actually, 2024 the percentages of registered voters of both the Republicans and democrats are even at 28% each. Independents run away with it at 43%.
Aren’t most independents former Dems who got fed up with their parties complacency?
No. There’s former GOP independents who hate Trump but otherwise will still vote for some Republicans. Independents who just don’t want to pick a party on principle. People who hate politics. People are independent for a lot of reasons.
This is actually correct and many Democrats do not realize this.
Because even Democrats who have been busy chasing complacency for the last 70 years while Republicans were planning on destroying the country are tired of this shit. The two-party system isn't working. If we ever get out of this mess, we need to change things.
#NoToRepDefectors
People need to actually show up and vote. It shouldn't have to be some super exciting event/personality for you to vote. Just go do it.
On what issue was Kamala not progressive enough? Because she didn't get a majority And a majority of eligible voters in America weren't old enough (or alive yet) to vote for Reagan so WTAF are you even talking about? We need MORE voters which means expanding the party beyond progressives
In fairness, Old Dan Murpt didn't get a majority either. Had KH ignored the consultants and continued talking universal health care; had she at least pointed out that ODM's position on Gaza was that Israel should finish the job, as in a solution that is final...who knows? Play to the base, guys!
Am I supposed to know what/who Old Dan Murpt is?
Those reagenites are nothing but former Nixonites. They're beyond reproach
unfortunately, the democratic party has the wrong leadership.
Yes!!!!!
Yes. Progressives must take back D em party from these right wing democrats. They aren't representing the people. The DNC is corrupt
People, don’t be evil youtu.be/V8gm3SLJnLs?...
Good point Sundae, but to win we need a large number of Independents. Liberal centrism is out of vogue but it is the only way nationally. The burn it to the grounders, Berniecrats, the progressive fad of the weekers, Gazaites and socialists are not a winning combo. We can't just run against Trump.
The Democrats have to be a unified group, not a bunch of disparate factions fighting over who suffers most.
They just want that to remain centrist instead of actual progressiveness.
Bingo.
Dems win by getting down & dirty like Trump’s fascists
As long as we don’t abandon progressives again. We need to be the antithesis of what’s going on now. Universal healthcare and other programs that help the average American need to be our platform. I don’t think shifting right is the way to go.
www.vox.com/policy-and-p...
Shifting to the right got us where we are now
Which is what they want us to do by falling in line behind Newsom, Buttigieg and Harris. They’re already planning how to keep Establishment control for after Trump which will lead to this again.
You are aware that Universal healthcare isn’t a new issue - and has been discussed since the 30’s - how we got Medicare/ Medicaid and ACA.. Until you get both parties ( low/ middle income) to vote for it won’t get it done…
Why do you assume I don’t?
Not you particularly but while there is lots of talk about programs like it and others very little plans of details about one pays for it ( we are currently in debt by 40T) and real practical matters rather than political rhetoric that ends up not delivering..
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...and to win, Dems must vote in much greater numbers than Republicans, due to gerrymandering and other anti-democratic acitons by the GOP.
I’d say attacking candidates that people like(Zohran Kwame Mamdani) and support is a bad idea for the Democratic Party. The old gaurd Democratic Party are strictly for the Money class they were created from the Reagan times. True roots of modern Democrats can be found in Roosevelt.Moneydontlikethat
I wish our Congress people would step up like Newsom, Pritzker, and Moore are doing. The DNC could mobilize the party base better than anyone, but they, like the old-timers in the party, benefit from republican policies and don't want to rock the boat.
Sundae Gurl is paying attention. Obama's elections proved it is by energizing new, young + previously disheartened voters that general elections are won. Stacey Abrams grass roots work didn't stop the Governor's Chair from being stolen but her grassroots work, arguably gave us the Senate.
In my less than humble opinion the standard DNC strategy is a proven failure. Clinton did it + while winning, she also lost. "Centrism" as practiced is just a measure of how much filthy lucre we are accepting from the same roster of villains as the GOP. It is just corruption.
This is what I'm getting at Also abandoning "progressives" which the EU would call centrists - can't happen.
I think I completely agree. Trump is transactional + reinvented the "Southern Strategy" to include every crackpot element of the "RIght." If we want to succeed in stopping the Junta, we need to be a little bit transactional too. We need to throw our progressives a G-D bone.
Trump voters are just 21st century George Wallace voters, who don’t even know who George Wallace was because they couldn’t pass high school history classes.
I never got their in-curiousness. I was expelled more than I wasn't from 7th Grade on. GED, military, you know the drill. I always had a Library Card. I never passed over a word I didn't know without looking it up, unless it was easily gleaned from context. I read more accidentally than them.
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Elections are won by the candidate who can sway the most undecided voters (voters who aren’t dems or reps). That is trump’s talent. Dems have to appeal to these voters by understanding their values and needs and meeting them
Not sure I really want Reaganites. Even so to focus on them is not a winning strategy.
Please tell this to Gavin Newsom and the other right wing Dem capitulators
My dad was a Reaganite. You’re right, he voted Republican no matter who it was. I don’t know what he’d think about Donnie because he’s been gone 25 years.
Shame the people who lead the Democratic Party & those who advise them are themselves cross-over Reaganites & their entire mission has been to move the party & the country further to the right. Mission a-fucking-complished. Now we have full blown fascism, just like they always wanted. Hooray.
I am guessing this piece is pointed straight at a writer for The Atlantic, and that writer's name rhymes with Bomb Bickles.
Im sorry, that would make rich donors angry. They are more important than you. Vote for us anyway or we will call you names (we will call you names anyway).
Here in Minnesota we have two Republican parties cz after the presidential inauguration Democrats are acting like their Republicans. Minnesota Democrats even created a new Coalition called BlueDog Democrats. I'm now looking into DSA.
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They better learn to stick together... in spite of one issue differences! Many different types of Dems but the number of folks railing against them, INSTEAD of the BIGGER MAGA VILLAINS is appalling IMO!
Every single Dem in a position of power, has to bet the farm on electing Mamdami. The same way we did for a long shot named Obama. There is 1 rule in evolution, EVOLVE, or die. Defeating MAGAt isn’t an option. We either evolve. Or we die.
Both, if possible!
Right On ✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼
The Democrats aren’t perfect, they make mistakes! But they’re willing to admit Correct and bring the truth to their constituents . Not continuing the grift of money fake news and propaganda that they are doing the Lords work. The democrats are for the people middle classes and poor. Caring
I don't think the DNC or the establishment thinks about voters like myself. I don't them any donations.
Dems lose by ignoring the entire poverty vote.
Totally agree. Believe the numbers are 140 million Democrats to 100 million MAGA party.
This!
I mis-read the post as “Dems” getting “cross” (angry) over Reaganites. My bad. I’ve been angry over Reagan since the 1970’s when he unleashed violence & police on demonstrators in CA. Then his very rich big dark money puppeteers orchestrated little Bush…then Trump to make life nicer for themselves.
They win by pointing out the truth of their election campaign in 2024.
Dems won't win unless there is a viable succession plan that identifies younger candidates, mentors them, promotes them, and seizes the power from the geezers' cold, decrepit hands. Look to AOC, Bernie, Mamdani for inspiration. And then DO SOMETHING!
fyi bsky.app/profile/sane...
Everyone should be mobilized already!
problem is dems feel the need to move to the right, and when they lose, they pretend to not know why.
Sadly I think the base isn't the same folks we grew up with. I don't even think the base exists anymore.
One sure way to win. Get young people to the polls at the same rate as older folks. "Ok, boomer" would be much more convincing if you actually showed up at the polls to vote us out of office.
Why try to win over people who believed a guy who said trickle down economics was a thing and we have 40+ years of evidence it is not.
Dems have given us nothing for decades. Nothing but Republican lite.
then they need to get off the couch and vote in the midterms
The Blue party of genocide is kaput. They knew about P25 for years and have no plan to combat the fascist attack. Their polling is in the dumpster and their blue MAGA followers don’t see the light, that silence is complicit. Light blue fascism, is not the answer.
The base wants the do-nothing neocon leadership out. You will not be able to motivate the base until this happens. Endorse Zohran, appoint AOC, Crockett and other activist dems to head important committees. Clear out the old backroom boys and elevate people like David Hogg.Get rid of the oligarchs.
Dems will win by deposing trump and culling maga. America will only be freed by violence because trump will not give up power
How many times have I said this? Stop trying to court Republicans who will never vote for you. Stop ignoring your base. You have to excite your base, not oppose them for people who will never vote for you.
Agree will overall message. Critical messaging needs to be maintained in house but any overlap should be welcomed where it comes. That doesn’t mean we have to party hardy with the tom nichols of the world with free alcohol tho :). There are good meaning ppl tho.
www.pewresearch.org/politics/202...
More recent polling shows Democrats back in the majority, but not by a substantial margin. news.gallup.com/poll/692978/...
Dems are incapable of all coming together. Just look at the rhetoric coming from the left about Newsom. He’s taking action, but the far, far left are tearing him apart. That’s why they keep losing elections. Unlike the rethuglicans, who are always lock step with whatever evil comes from trump.
You have to fight ALL the fights. You don't get to pick and choose. You do not leave the inconvenient people behind. That is what we're upset about Newsome. Get it through your thick skull
So what are you doing besides sitting there judging everyone else and spewing your rhetoric?
My goddamn best
There’s no such thing as a Reagan Republican anymore. There is a Mussolini Republican and a Child Molester Republican.
Tax every earned $ for social security not to stop @ $174,000 End Citizens United Medicare for All Intervene on billionaires not paying great salaries ... Reignite the Middle Class Oh! And jail the felon!
They can’t mobilize the base using the same rhetoric over and over. It’s time for aggressive change.
I'm not sure we can afford to disenfranchise any class much less those who are most likely to jump the fence. No, I'm afraid in the face of this stark of a choice, the correct answer is unhappy hardcores who really should deemphasize their sub-causes and promote one larger cause under a big tent
Otherwise instead of giving fence sitters having great inner conflict one thing to potentially disagree with, you give them four or five. And yes I do mean Palestinians, Hispanics, LGBTQ and other sub causes I didn't think of. Keep it focused on dumping Trump.
There is no such thing as a "quality vote"
A headless beast though. If the old school dems would take their boots off the necks of AOC Crockett etc...we might have something we could rally around. Jeffries? Schumer? Give me a fkn break.
💯 Look at Zohran's campaign for proof.
At this point it is necessary to have crossover Reaganites, a mobilized base and anybody else who adds up to a coalition too massive to be cheated. Winning is math, the biggest number. The message is simple: We're the government and we really are here to help you Preamble style
NOTE TO DEMS: THE TIME FOR MODERATE, MEASURED TALK IS OVER. WE WANT TO SEE FIGHTERS. WE WANT TO SEE THEM SATURATE MEDIA. THE YOUNG GUNS IN THE PARTY (OF WHICH THERE ARE SEVERAL) UNDERSTAND THE ASSIGNMENT. THE TALK NEEDS TO REFLECT THE URGENCY OF THE MOMENT. IT NEEDS TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND TO THE POINT
The young and rising are giving a chance now to rebuild the party in their image. Way more aggressive but not insulting in their approach to reform the fundamentals of democracy. Not ducking down when attacked but very confident in their defense. Out with the old! Start fighting for what is right!
But Dems have worked on being the party of Reagan for over 30 years. Neoliberal to the core.
Yep, fuck the GOP, or working with em. Trying to be "middle of the road" only got us wil-e-coyoted by GOP laughing at us.
The heavy weight for the Democratic Party is with the progressives. Get on board all you Centrists or say good bye to your political career.
Apparently you really want lose again… Forget who actually WON in 2020 and he wasn’t a progressive but was open to promoting progressive ideas & policies…🤷♀️
Centerists are what is losing member support
Tell me what bills the Progressives have actually gotten passed? I will wait…
You won’t win an election just catering to progressives… Biden won because not only did he appeal to Democrats but also many of the old non Maga Republicans…
Sorry progressives want instant gratification instead of progress and when it doesn’t happen quick enough they lost interest- why we have lost the last 60 years of progress that was made ..
Sorry dear- it was the progressives that threw away their votes in 2024 for a single issue not the centrists…and actually made it worse for the people they were trying to protect not better… 🤷♀️
Damn straight. America was always a great nation, and the best results were from Democrat's efforts. So I won't throw stones at wimpy Dems while treasonous Redhats are destroying our constitution, tossing our votes, kidnapping, stealing, and polluting while a supremely corrupt [GOP] court allows it.