I can imagine many alternatives! The article even describes some of them! The fact that I don't think it's "perfect" is another matter.
I can imagine many alternatives! The article even describes some of them! The fact that I don't think it's "perfect" is another matter.
so you think it’s better?
In some ways yes, in other ways no. I think it's very sexist (for instance) but I'm interested in the focus on mercy and especially how it doesn't create hard conceptual boundaries between retributive and restorative dimensions of justice.
“in some ways it’s better than a chud with the full force of the state behind him who will show up, sympathize with your plight and then do your violence for you, but in some ways it’s worse” strikes me as an intriguing argument, but not a compelling one
Very funny to have the OP and his fans decry the lack of creative thinking about criminal justice reform and then when someone presents an alternative model to re-frame some conceptual issues say "first, of all: how DARE you!"
you can think of millions of different solutions and still be creative, but I think people are more interested in useful solutions. I don't think the US is going to model their justice system on Bedouin vendettas.
Ever heard of the Hatfields and McCoys? The US did historically model its justice system on vendettas at certain points. It's the idea of mercy that I think would be interesting (though I can now see that expecting Americans to appreciate this is too much).
The US historically didn't let women vote and let people own slaves, I don't think justifying things based off the US's historical practices is very useful either. I think we can just say the justice system should be merciful without going back to Jordanian Bedouins or the hatfields and McCoys.
I said it was intriguing, it’s just funny that you set the bar that low and still admit you can’t clear it
Seriously are y’all so fucking ignorant you can’t literally google alternatives to police??? Just one example: www.themarshallproject.org/2024/07/25/p...
The thing is: they love cops even if the feeling definitely isn't mutual.
These kinds of teams aren't an alternative to police, they're a fix for the problem that police are constantly responding to calls that should be handled by a mental health professional or etc. They're obviously good but don't really conceptually help "who comes when someone gets murdered?" etc
like the main question here is "how do we accomplish the functions of police that matter" and taking away things they never should've been doing is important, but that's merely addressed the creeping expansion of scope, not how we go about doing policing without police
Are you aware of the clearance rate of most police departments? We actually don’t have what you’re describing now. So I don’t think your question is legit. There are many solutions that aren’t police.
crisis response is not the same thing as investigative work
An unarmed team can also investigate murders…
doesn't really seem like you understand what you're talking about
That and how do you hold police accountable for their misdeeds and instill a culture of service vs entitlement into the rank and file.
By not having police!