I think think the genocide Israel is enacting right now is abhorrent, particularly from a people that suffered much the same less than a century ago But I also don't think that any of the IDF's actions--which do lead to people joining Hamas to fight back--justifies killing noncombatants
There’s that false equivalence and cover for genocide again. You think that the genocide is abhorrent, which is only the last step in a 78 year ethnic cleansing regime, yet place all the blame on Hamas and none on Israel. Like I said, it’s clear what you are; no better than a nazi
It's not cover for genocide, I literally just said on the post you're responding to that it's abhorrent. I also called out the IDF for their part in creating the violence they claim as justification for their atrocities. The violence is disproportionate, true, but attacking civilians is still bad.
You focus on Hamas and Oct 7 in a vastly disproportionate way. What does that say about you, that you have to centre the oppressors and have to underline ‘well some Palestinians deserve genocide actually’ over and over again?
I haven't focused on Oct 7 at all honestly. You're right; this is an issue that goes well beyond that. I also don't say that "some Palestinians deserve genocide." I simply say no militaristic group should be targeting civilians, and those that do should be treated with disdain.
Every Israeli adult serves in the IDF, a militaristic organisation with the sole purpose of oppressing Palestinians. The majority of Hamas operatives are orphans who have lost their parents to Israeli violence. Your sympathy and understanding of civilians and military is skewed towards oppressors
And that forced servitude serves to indoctrinate the Israeli citizens, sure. I didn't know that I would say with any certainly those thrown in the IDF haven't ALSO lost family or friends to violence, which is why it's a circle of violence Regardless, neither side should be hitting civilians
lmfao ‘forced servitude’, when the penalty for not joining is a couple months in prison at most. And by all metrics if any Israeli dies thousands more Palestinians have, meaning you again prove you value Israeli lives and see Palestinians as not human
I think any amount of prison is going to be incredibly disruptive, so it's not as though there's no pressure to acquiesce You're putting words in my mouth here, I'm not saying anything about one Israeli death compared to Palestinian deaths. A life is a life; death is death and it's tragic.
My point has always been that all your sympathy is for Israelis, is for colonisers, is for genocidaires. Every single post you make just proves me right and further proves how racist you are towards Palestinians whom you don’t see as equal human beings to whites
Oh, a couple months in prison or participating in a genocide? Hmmm, what a hard decision! Of course for a racist piece of shit like you, it would be difficult I guess. Btw, interpreting your stance isn’t putting words in your mouth, dumbshit
You're misinterpreting my stance, and in so doing you are quite literally ignoring what I say to turn me into a straw man. I've not given any indication I value Israeli lives more than Palestinian lives. I think any and all civilians deserve a respectable life, a decent life, just a LIFE.
As you say, this didn't start with September, so the decision has not always been "genocide or jail" Furthermore, there's a narrative that people like you play into; a narrative that each of them is under threat which means they need to neutralize it That's ignoring the social conditioning aspect