Anyone unwilling to acknowledge that a majority of American voters consciously shot themselves in the face is not rational. I had to 🔇them. In a democratic republic, the voters are the last stop. That was the premise of the American experiment. If citizens don't admit that and act, it's over.
I don’t give a shit that I’m muted. Our Democratic “leaders” are useless. They telegraphed every bit of this, and we did jack shit to stop it.
It’s so frustrating? They just want to blame the dems without acknowledging it’s the voters who chose this.
So you just accept that Elon jumped on the Trump bandwagon, was given control to all of our personal data through DOGE, and there’s no chance he tried to influence the election? Ok…
We're not gonna know for sure until after the last maggoty person in the administration leaves or kicks it. And either way? It doesn't fucking matter. Not really, not anymore. We can't turn back time to when it mattered, when 3rd party and non-voters couldn't pay attention and fucked everyone.
Yes, it matter. We can either pretend it wasn’t bigotry that drove the numbers and go chasing after conspiracy theories or we can be real and figure out what to do about it. I’m all for being real.
So, what, you think the bigots sat out 2020, and came back in 2024? The bigots were always there. But Trump didn’t find MORE bigots in that 4 year period. The bigots are why it was close a race at all, and the tech billionaire is what put him over the top.
Yes. His opponent in 2020 was a white man, and in 2024 it was a black woman. Welcome to how bigotry works.
Racism. It's racism, not bigotry. It's also sexism, but my fellow white people aren't ready to deal with *that particular problem* yet apparently. 😑
Neither problem they will face
Yep.
Fair enough, I use the word bigotry because I do think lgbt phobia is in the mix too, not to mention xenophobia.
While the sentiment boils down to bigotry, racism being front and center is important to that argument. Since racism feeds classism and sexism, it's well past time for white people to acknowledge that fact.
And it's the sexism that stems the most bullshit takes on Trans people and LGBTQIA+ as a whole. The "bathroom and sports" crap is smokescreen for sexism. And scratch a sexist, find a racist
Why is this very simple fact so very difficult to grasp for some. 😳
Because it’s a large part of the story, but not the WHOLE story. To claim that is was only about racism assumes some of those racists must have voted for Biden in 2020. They still existed then, they were still Trump supporters then, and you just seem to think their votes mattered more in 2024.
Yes sweetheart, some of those racists did vote for a cishetero white male. My head hurts.
You have more patience than I. 🙂
It's racism that drove those numbers back in November.
Cool. So are you going to pretended that a whole bunch of voters aren’t bigots that choose a fascist?
Yes, America is full of bigots. NEWSFLASH!!! But we beat those bigots in 2020. Now, maybe you’ll stop ignoring my point?
And the bigots beat us in 2024. Are you still going to pretend that didn’t happen?
I like circles. I don’t mind going over the same thing with you again and again. So AGAIN I ask.. Does the implausible “friendship” with a tech billionaire that happened right before the election give you NO concern? The relationship that has crumbled now that Elon is no longer useful?
I’m much more concerned about those folks who want to focus on something that might have or not have happened instead of coming to terms with the fact that we are a country full of bigots, and that is where the solution needs to be targeted. But okay, keep on chasing dreams and rainbows. Bye.
You’ve said “bye” several times now. Either leave or admit that you’re sticking around because I’m making some sense.